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00:01:41,730\n那但是我去查了一下好像目前這個滋血帶的裝備雖然在很多的國家有列為配備給遠景的這個標準的配備但是在我們現在的警察植物的配備機具的配備標準裡面是沒有這個滋血帶的配發那我想請教署長因為這個東西雖小但是在緊急的狀況\n\n5\n00:01:42,811 --> 00:02:03,656\n特別是在員警這種高風險的執勤的過程中它是會帶來很大的幫助特別是你們又已經有施加相關的訓練我們員警操練操作都很熟悉也不乏員警會自備以備不時之需我想請教署長是不是可以考慮把這個實學帶也列為標準的配備之一\n\n6\n00:02:07,017 --> 00:02:26,609\n謝謝委員的一個提醒我想這個我們值得來推動這個會因為地方制度法的一個財政的一個說之劃分我想地方政府要編列這個預算那我們會推動到地方警察局那邊來徵集這個預算那真的不夠我們在中央這邊看在籌經費來預算\n\n7\n00:02:30,071 --> 00:02:48,797\n政策上我是希望你們主動一點去推動然後不要每次要增加什麼東西都是說來地方經費不夠因為這個其實小東西但是這個效益很高至少你要讓這個員警如果他自己有需要的話他可以跟你們申請這也是一個方法\n\n8\n00:02:49,878 --> 00:02:59,729\n看是要列為標準的配備或是怎麼樣但是因為這個在緊急的狀況底下確實發揮很大的功能所以請希望你們列入這個政策的方向來做推動\n\n9\n00:03:02,027 --> 00:03:24,194\n另外還要跟署長來探討一個問題因為不只是這半年今年甚至長年以來特別這兩年各地方政府還有民眾反映噪音的問題也就是說機動車輛特別是改裝的摩托車或是汽車在深夜或是下午\n\n10\n00:03:26,155 --> 00:03:53,186\n造成地方安寧的困擾我想很多的地方政府都有提出來而且在各個地方政府的議會裡面也都成為很大的話題但是我們卻看到反映到中央行政院來之後到底由誰主管這件事情好像交通部跟警政署還有環境部這一邊事實上是有一些爭執\n\n11\n00:03:55,828 --> 00:04:24,127\n監察院前上個禮拜有提出來一個上個月有提出一個調查報告我想也有含附你們也有回文那我看到這個調查報告的時候我蠻訝異的看到警政署回覆的方向當然就是跟交通部立場一致認為說這個不屬於盜交條例這個單純就可以來執法應該要由照應管制法來下手但是我們知道在基層事實上執法的量能\n\n12\n00:04:25,427 --> 00:04:47,679\n兩者之間是不能相提並論的也就是說今天民眾他在深夜或者是他在生活中遇到這個情境的時候他第一個找誰啊他當然是找警察嘛對不對結果警察到現場跟他講說啊這個與法不符我不能開單我覺得這個態度民眾沒有辦法解釋\n\n13\n00:04:49,200 --> 00:05:11,032\n那我卻沒有看到監察院在調查的時候警政署是積極地去爭取說應該要讓第一線的警察同仁可以幫忙民眾來解決這個問題署長是謝謝委員我想這個尤其夜間的改裝車輛的噪音會著迷引起很大的一個民怨\n\n14\n00:05:11,832 --> 00:05:34,091\n那我也要求我們各縣市警察局尤其夜間的一個機場針對有改裝的部分一定要做一個開單子叫他去監理單位去做一個檢驗跟環保單位去測那個噪音都有要求了那當然這個量能的部分確實面很廣真的面很廣\n\n15\n00:05:34,952 --> 00:05:47,948\n那整個警察單位有在結合監理單位跟環保單位那個定期在做實施啦但是這個真的不是啦他都去驗車的時候裝合格的嘛對就換回來就換成他這個違規的嘛對\n\n16\n00:05:52,293 --> 00:06:14,286\n所以你從那邊下手意義不大嘛因為現在的改裝技術又越來越精良然後這個相關的配備又很容易取得嘛對不對所以事實上還是在你在末端你能夠抓到能夠有效的立刻禁止他為什麼都會去爭執說要不要用這個道交條例的43條因為你可以當場禁止他駕駛\n\n17\n00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:42,884\n這個法律效果是照應那邊只是開罰單而已啊然後叫他去醫院他每次去醫院都會過啊所以那個沒有意義啊現在是你可以當場禁止他駕駛而且甚至呢如果一年內再度抓到的話呢還可以調控駕駛直到六個月這個對於這個行為來講才有真正的嚇阻的作用結果我們現在看到交通部跟這個警政署這邊我們盜交執法的機關\n\n18\n00:06:46,260 --> 00:07:14,058\n一直在講說這一條是針對飆車事實上從條文根本看不出來有這個意思當然我知道始作俑者是交通部105年的韓士但是我希望警政署這邊你要拿出一個態度來因為你要解決第一線員警的問題為什麼因為第一線員警他第一線承受民眾的怨言結果你們明明有一個武器可以去執法可以當場去給他一個嚇阻但是你們卻退縮不前\n\n19\n00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:28,049\n我覺得這樣子民眾也是不能接受只是說交通部那邊當然監察院跟立法院這邊都會去要求交通部要重新檢討這一條的解釋的方向可是我們希望說內部你們在討論的時候你們應該也要來爭取\n\n20\n00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:51,973\n就算不用這一條我去查了社會法社會法如果深夜噪音你也有六千塊可以罰但是如果只是罰錢可能還不夠最重要是要制止它這個駕駛這個行為甚至未來配合祭典我想才能夠真正有效的遏止這個行為而要能夠處理這個用環保的稽查我想\n\n21\n00:07:54,116 --> 00:08:21,050\n只要在第一線在地方政府處理過實際執行這個就知道說環保的稽查絕對緩不及急他也不可能有這麼密的執法量能所以還是要請警政署這邊既然你也是相關的主管機關之一還是要拿出這個魄力來盡量來爭取用這個方式可以遏止這樣的行為我們會規劃勤務尤其選完投票選完舉以後那個勤務會來執行\n\n22\n00:08:22,951 --> 00:08:33,543\n什麼東西?就1.163號投完票現在的警力大概在選舉安全方面會比較投入那投完票以後再規劃一個執行的這個勤務\n\n23\n00:08:36,328 --> 00:09:01,054\n我想這個也不要跟選舉扯上關係因為你講的可能是譬如說針對飆車的行為可能需要大量的這個警力來去做圍捕或是這個抓捕的動作這個平常檢舉這一些日常的情務其實都在處理所以現在你們就可以去做而且希望你們在法令解釋的這個態度上面要做個調整不要這麼被動以上謝謝好謝謝謝偉恩\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n595\t5398\t好 謝謝主席那我們請警政署黃署長我請黃署長委員好好 署長好我想今天先談一個就是跟我們員警的執行有關的一個問題那我們知道說警政署事實上都經常在關注員警執行的時候自我保護的問題\n30553\t55743\t所以我也看到你們有一個112年的遠景創傷急救訓練計畫這個也都實行的很徹底的所以大家都有學相關的急救包含止血CPR還有AED等等的這些東西不但防護遠景自身執行的過程中也能夠來幫助我們的民眾我們也看到新聞有報導說現在\n60478\t76872\t有些員警他有自備所謂的止血帶也就是說用這個止血帶他不但可以幫助自己也幫助同仁甚至也協助他在執勤的時候遇到的民眾因為我們知道警察執勤事實上風險相當的高經常都有受傷的可能性\n77967\t101730\t那但是我去查了一下好像目前這個滋血帶的裝備雖然在很多的國家有列為配備給遠景的這個標準的配備但是在我們現在的警察植物的配備機具的配備標準裡面是沒有這個滋血帶的配發那我想請教署長因為這個東西雖小但是在緊急的狀況\n102811\t123656\t特別是在員警這種高風險的執勤的過程中它是會帶來很大的幫助特別是你們又已經有施加相關的訓練我們員警操練操作都很熟悉也不乏員警會自備以備不時之需我想請教署長是不是可以考慮把這個實學帶也列為標準的配備之一\n127017\t146609\t謝謝委員的一個提醒我想這個我們值得來推動這個會因為地方制度法的一個財政的一個說之劃分我想地方政府要編列這個預算那我們會推動到地方警察局那邊來徵集這個預算那真的不夠我們在中央這邊看在籌經費來預算\n150071\t168797\t政策上我是希望你們主動一點去推動然後不要每次要增加什麼東西都是說來地方經費不夠因為這個其實小東西但是這個效益很高至少你要讓這個員警如果他自己有需要的話他可以跟你們申請這也是一個方法\n169878\t179729\t看是要列為標準的配備或是怎麼樣但是因為這個在緊急的狀況底下確實發揮很大的功能所以請希望你們列入這個政策的方向來做推動\n182027\t204194\t另外還要跟署長來探討一個問題因為不只是這半年今年甚至長年以來特別這兩年各地方政府還有民眾反映噪音的問題也就是說機動車輛特別是改裝的摩托車或是汽車在深夜或是下午\n206155\t233186\t造成地方安寧的困擾我想很多的地方政府都有提出來而且在各個地方政府的議會裡面也都成為很大的話題但是我們卻看到反映到中央行政院來之後到底由誰主管這件事情好像交通部跟警政署還有環境部這一邊事實上是有一些爭執\n235828\t264127\t監察院前上個禮拜有提出來一個上個月有提出一個調查報告我想也有含附你們也有回文那我看到這個調查報告的時候我蠻訝異的看到警政署回覆的方向當然就是跟交通部立場一致認為說這個不屬於盜交條例這個單純就可以來執法應該要由照應管制法來下手但是我們知道在基層事實上執法的量能\n265427\t287679\t兩者之間是不能相提並論的也就是說今天民眾他在深夜或者是他在生活中遇到這個情境的時候他第一個找誰啊他當然是找警察嘛對不對結果警察到現場跟他講說啊這個與法不符我不能開單我覺得這個態度民眾沒有辦法解釋\n289200\t311032\t那我卻沒有看到監察院在調查的時候警政署是積極地去爭取說應該要讓第一線的警察同仁可以幫忙民眾來解決這個問題署長是謝謝委員我想這個尤其夜間的改裝車輛的噪音會著迷引起很大的一個民怨\n311832\t334091\t那我也要求我們各縣市警察局尤其夜間的一個機場針對有改裝的部分一定要做一個開單子叫他去監理單位去做一個檢驗跟環保單位去測那個噪音都有要求了那當然這個量能的部分確實面很廣真的面很廣\n334952\t347948\t那整個警察單位有在結合監理單位跟環保單位那個定期在做實施啦但是這個真的不是啦他都去驗車的時候裝合格的嘛對就換回來就換成他這個違規的嘛對\n352293\t374286\t所以你從那邊下手意義不大嘛因為現在的改裝技術又越來越精良然後這個相關的配備又很容易取得嘛對不對所以事實上還是在你在末端你能夠抓到能夠有效的立刻禁止他為什麼都會去爭執說要不要用這個道交條例的43條因為你可以當場禁止他駕駛\n376356\t402884\t這個法律效果是照應那邊只是開罰單而已啊然後叫他去醫院他每次去醫院都會過啊所以那個沒有意義啊現在是你可以當場禁止他駕駛而且甚至呢如果一年內再度抓到的話呢還可以調控駕駛直到六個月這個對於這個行為來講才有真正的嚇阻的作用結果我們現在看到交通部跟這個警政署這邊我們盜交執法的機關\n406260\t434058\t一直在講說這一條是針對飆車事實上從條文根本看不出來有這個意思當然我知道始作俑者是交通部105年的韓士但是我希望警政署這邊你要拿出一個態度來因為你要解決第一線員警的問題為什麼因為第一線員警他第一線承受民眾的怨言結果你們明明有一個武器可以去執法可以當場去給他一個嚇阻但是你們卻退縮不前\n435200\t448049\t我覺得這樣子民眾也是不能接受只是說交通部那邊當然監察院跟立法院這邊都會去要求交通部要重新檢討這一條的解釋的方向可是我們希望說內部你們在討論的時候你們應該也要來爭取\n450390\t471973\t就算不用這一條我去查了社會法社會法如果深夜噪音你也有六千塊可以罰但是如果只是罰錢可能還不夠最重要是要制止它這個駕駛這個行為甚至未來配合祭典我想才能夠真正有效的遏止這個行為而要能夠處理這個用環保的稽查我想\n474116\t501050\t只要在第一線在地方政府處理過實際執行這個就知道說環保的稽查絕對緩不及急他也不可能有這麼密的執法量能所以還是要請警政署這邊既然你也是相關的主管機關之一還是要拿出這個魄力來盡量來爭取用這個方式可以遏止這樣的行為我們會規劃勤務尤其選完投票選完舉以後那個勤務會來執行\n502951\t513543\t什麼東西?就1.163號投完票現在的警力大概在選舉安全方面會比較投入那投完票以後再規劃一個執行的這個勤務\n516328\t541054\t我想這個也不要跟選舉扯上關係因為你講的可能是譬如說針對飆車的行為可能需要大量的這個警力來去做圍捕或是這個抓捕的動作這個平常檢舉這一些日常的情務其實都在處理所以現在你們就可以去做而且希望你們在法令解釋的這個態度上面要做個調整不要這麼被動以上 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署長好我想今天先談一個就是跟我們員警的執行有關的一個問題那我們知道說警政署事實上都經常在關注員警執行的時候自我保護的問題\n所以我也看到你們有一個112年的遠景創傷急救訓練計畫這個也都實行的很徹底的所以大家都有學相關的急救包含止血CPR還有AED等等的這些東西不但防護遠景自身執行的過程中也能夠來幫助我們的民眾我們也看到新聞有報導說現在\n有些員警他有自備所謂的止血帶也就是說用這個止血帶他不但可以幫助自己也幫助同仁甚至也協助他在執勤的時候遇到的民眾因為我們知道警察執勤事實上風險相當的高經常都有受傷的可能性\n那但是我去查了一下好像目前這個滋血帶的裝備雖然在很多的國家有列為配備給遠景的這個標準的配備但是在我們現在的警察植物的配備機具的配備標準裡面是沒有這個滋血帶的配發那我想請教署長因為這個東西雖小但是在緊急的狀況\n特別是在員警這種高風險的執勤的過程中它是會帶來很大的幫助特別是你們又已經有施加相關的訓練我們員警操練操作都很熟悉也不乏員警會自備以備不時之需我想請教署長是不是可以考慮把這個實學帶也列為標準的配備之一\n謝謝委員的一個提醒我想這個我們值得來推動這個會因為地方制度法的一個財政的一個說之劃分我想地方政府要編列這個預算那我們會推動到地方警察局那邊來徵集這個預算那真的不夠我們在中央這邊看在籌經費來預算\n政策上我是希望你們主動一點去推動然後不要每次要增加什麼東西都是說來地方經費不夠因為這個其實小東西但是這個效益很高至少你要讓這個員警如果他自己有需要的話他可以跟你們申請這也是一個方法\n看是要列為標準的配備或是怎麼樣但是因為這個在緊急的狀況底下確實發揮很大的功能所以請希望你們列入這個政策的方向來做推動\n另外還要跟署長來探討一個問題因為不只是這半年今年甚至長年以來特別這兩年各地方政府還有民眾反映噪音的問題也就是說機動車輛特別是改裝的摩托車或是汽車在深夜或是下午\n造成地方安寧的困擾我想很多的地方政府都有提出來而且在各個地方政府的議會裡面也都成為很大的話題但是我們卻看到反映到中央行政院來之後到底由誰主管這件事情好像交通部跟警政署還有環境部這一邊事實上是有一些爭執\n監察院前上個禮拜有提出來一個上個月有提出一個調查報告我想也有含附你們也有回文那我看到這個調查報告的時候我蠻訝異的看到警政署回覆的方向當然就是跟交通部立場一致認為說這個不屬於盜交條例這個單純就可以來執法應該要由照應管制法來下手但是我們知道在基層事實上執法的量能\n兩者之間是不能相提並論的也就是說今天民眾他在深夜或者是他在生活中遇到這個情境的時候他第一個找誰啊他當然是找警察嘛對不對結果警察到現場跟他講說啊這個與法不符我不能開單我覺得這個態度民眾沒有辦法解釋\n那我卻沒有看到監察院在調查的時候警政署是積極地去爭取說應該要讓第一線的警察同仁可以幫忙民眾來解決這個問題署長是謝謝委員我想這個尤其夜間的改裝車輛的噪音會著迷引起很大的一個民怨\n那我也要求我們各縣市警察局尤其夜間的一個機場針對有改裝的部分一定要做一個開單子叫他去監理單位去做一個檢驗跟環保單位去測那個噪音都有要求了那當然這個量能的部分確實面很廣真的面很廣\n那整個警察單位有在結合監理單位跟環保單位那個定期在做實施啦但是這個真的不是啦他都去驗車的時候裝合格的嘛對就換回來就換成他這個違規的嘛對\n所以你從那邊下手意義不大嘛因為現在的改裝技術又越來越精良然後這個相關的配備又很容易取得嘛對不對所以事實上還是在你在末端你能夠抓到能夠有效的立刻禁止他為什麼都會去爭執說要不要用這個道交條例的43條因為你可以當場禁止他駕駛\n這個法律效果是照應那邊只是開罰單而已啊然後叫他去醫院他每次去醫院都會過啊所以那個沒有意義啊現在是你可以當場禁止他駕駛而且甚至呢如果一年內再度抓到的話呢還可以調控駕駛直到六個月這個對於這個行為來講才有真正的嚇阻的作用結果我們現在看到交通部跟這個警政署這邊我們盜交執法的機關\n一直在講說這一條是針對飆車事實上從條文根本看不出來有這個意思當然我知道始作俑者是交通部105年的韓士但是我希望警政署這邊你要拿出一個態度來因為你要解決第一線員警的問題為什麼因為第一線員警他第一線承受民眾的怨言結果你們明明有一個武器可以去執法可以當場去給他一個嚇阻但是你們卻退縮不前\n我覺得這樣子民眾也是不能接受只是說交通部那邊當然監察院跟立法院這邊都會去要求交通部要重新檢討這一條的解釋的方向可是我們希望說內部你們在討論的時候你們應該也要來爭取\n就算不用這一條我去查了社會法社會法如果深夜噪音你也有六千塊可以罰但是如果只是罰錢可能還不夠最重要是要制止它這個駕駛這個行為甚至未來配合祭典我想才能夠真正有效的遏止這個行為而要能夠處理這個用環保的稽查我想\n只要在第一線在地方政府處理過實際執行這個就知道說環保的稽查絕對緩不及急他也不可能有這麼密的執法量能所以還是要請警政署這邊既然你也是相關的主管機關之一還是要拿出這個魄力來盡量來爭取用這個方式可以遏止這樣的行為我們會規劃勤務尤其選完投票選完舉以後那個勤務會來執行\n什麼東西?就1.163號投完票現在的警力大概在選舉安全方面會比較投入那投完票以後再規劃一個執行的這個勤務\n我想這個也不要跟選舉扯上關係因為你講的可能是譬如說針對飆車的行為可能需要大量的這個警力來去做圍捕或是這個抓捕的動作這個平常檢舉這一些日常的情務其實都在處理所以現在你們就可以去做而且希望你們在法令解釋的這個態度上面要做個調整不要這麼被動以上 謝謝好 謝謝謝偉恩\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.595 --> 00:05.398\n好謝謝主席那我們請警政署黃署長我請黃署長委員好好署長好我想今天先談一個就是跟我們員警的執行有關的一個問題那我們知道說警政署事實上都經常在關注員警執行的時候自我保護的問題\n\n00:30.553 --> 00:55.743\n所以我也看到你們有一個112年的遠景創傷急救訓練計畫這個也都實行的很徹底的所以大家都有學相關的急救包含止血CPR還有AED等等的這些東西不但防護遠景自身執行的過程中也能夠來幫助我們的民眾我們也看到新聞有報導說現在\n\n01:00.478 --> 01:16.872\n有些員警他有自備所謂的止血帶也就是說用這個止血帶他不但可以幫助自己也幫助同仁甚至也協助他在執勤的時候遇到的民眾因為我們知道警察執勤事實上風險相當的高經常都有受傷的可能性\n\n01:17.967 --> 01:41.730\n那但是我去查了一下好像目前這個滋血帶的裝備雖然在很多的國家有列為配備給遠景的這個標準的配備但是在我們現在的警察植物的配備機具的配備標準裡面是沒有這個滋血帶的配發那我想請教署長因為這個東西雖小但是在緊急的狀況\n\n01:42.811 --> 02:03.656\n特別是在員警這種高風險的執勤的過程中它是會帶來很大的幫助特別是你們又已經有施加相關的訓練我們員警操練操作都很熟悉也不乏員警會自備以備不時之需我想請教署長是不是可以考慮把這個實學帶也列為標準的配備之一\n\n02:07.017 --> 02:26.609\n謝謝委員的一個提醒我想這個我們值得來推動這個會因為地方制度法的一個財政的一個說之劃分我想地方政府要編列這個預算那我們會推動到地方警察局那邊來徵集這個預算那真的不夠我們在中央這邊看在籌經費來預算\n\n02:30.071 --> 02:48.797\n政策上我是希望你們主動一點去推動然後不要每次要增加什麼東西都是說來地方經費不夠因為這個其實小東西但是這個效益很高至少你要讓這個員警如果他自己有需要的話他可以跟你們申請這也是一個方法\n\n02:49.878 --> 02:59.729\n看是要列為標準的配備或是怎麼樣但是因為這個在緊急的狀況底下確實發揮很大的功能所以請希望你們列入這個政策的方向來做推動\n\n03:02.027 --> 03:24.194\n另外還要跟署長來探討一個問題因為不只是這半年今年甚至長年以來特別這兩年各地方政府還有民眾反映噪音的問題也就是說機動車輛特別是改裝的摩托車或是汽車在深夜或是下午\n\n03:26.155 --> 03:53.186\n造成地方安寧的困擾我想很多的地方政府都有提出來而且在各個地方政府的議會裡面也都成為很大的話題但是我們卻看到反映到中央行政院來之後到底由誰主管這件事情好像交通部跟警政署還有環境部這一邊事實上是有一些爭執\n\n03:55.828 --> 04:24.127\n監察院前上個禮拜有提出來一個上個月有提出一個調查報告我想也有含附你們也有回文那我看到這個調查報告的時候我蠻訝異的看到警政署回覆的方向當然就是跟交通部立場一致認為說這個不屬於盜交條例這個單純就可以來執法應該要由照應管制法來下手但是我們知道在基層事實上執法的量能\n\n04:25.427 --> 04:47.679\n兩者之間是不能相提並論的也就是說今天民眾他在深夜或者是他在生活中遇到這個情境的時候他第一個找誰啊他當然是找警察嘛對不對結果警察到現場跟他講說啊這個與法不符我不能開單我覺得這個態度民眾沒有辦法解釋\n\n04:49.200 --> 05:11.032\n那我卻沒有看到監察院在調查的時候警政署是積極地去爭取說應該要讓第一線的警察同仁可以幫忙民眾來解決這個問題署長是謝謝委員我想這個尤其夜間的改裝車輛的噪音會著迷引起很大的一個民怨\n\n05:11.832 --> 05:34.091\n那我也要求我們各縣市警察局尤其夜間的一個機場針對有改裝的部分一定要做一個開單子叫他去監理單位去做一個檢驗跟環保單位去測那個噪音都有要求了那當然這個量能的部分確實面很廣真的面很廣\n\n05:34.952 --> 05:47.948\n那整個警察單位有在結合監理單位跟環保單位那個定期在做實施啦但是這個真的不是啦他都去驗車的時候裝合格的嘛對就換回來就換成他這個違規的嘛對\n\n05:52.293 --> 06:14.286\n所以你從那邊下手意義不大嘛因為現在的改裝技術又越來越精良然後這個相關的配備又很容易取得嘛對不對所以事實上還是在你在末端你能夠抓到能夠有效的立刻禁止他為什麼都會去爭執說要不要用這個道交條例的43條因為你可以當場禁止他駕駛\n\n06:16.356 --> 06:42.884\n這個法律效果是照應那邊只是開罰單而已啊然後叫他去醫院他每次去醫院都會過啊所以那個沒有意義啊現在是你可以當場禁止他駕駛而且甚至呢如果一年內再度抓到的話呢還可以調控駕駛直到六個月這個對於這個行為來講才有真正的嚇阻的作用結果我們現在看到交通部跟這個警政署這邊我們盜交執法的機關\n\n06:46.260 --> 07:14.058\n一直在講說這一條是針對飆車事實上從條文根本看不出來有這個意思當然我知道始作俑者是交通部105年的韓士但是我希望警政署這邊你要拿出一個態度來因為你要解決第一線員警的問題為什麼因為第一線員警他第一線承受民眾的怨言結果你們明明有一個武器可以去執法可以當場去給他一個嚇阻但是你們卻退縮不前\n\n07:15.200 --> 07:28.049\n我覺得這樣子民眾也是不能接受只是說交通部那邊當然監察院跟立法院這邊都會去要求交通部要重新檢討這一條的解釋的方向可是我們希望說內部你們在討論的時候你們應該也要來爭取\n\n07:30.390 --> 07:51.973\n就算不用這一條我去查了社會法社會法如果深夜噪音你也有六千塊可以罰但是如果只是罰錢可能還不夠最重要是要制止它這個駕駛這個行為甚至未來配合祭典我想才能夠真正有效的遏止這個行為而要能夠處理這個用環保的稽查我想\n\n07:54.116 --> 08:21.050\n只要在第一線在地方政府處理過實際執行這個就知道說環保的稽查絕對緩不及急他也不可能有這麼密的執法量能所以還是要請警政署這邊既然你也是相關的主管機關之一還是要拿出這個魄力來盡量來爭取用這個方式可以遏止這樣的行為我們會規劃勤務尤其選完投票選完舉以後那個勤務會來執行\n\n08:22.951 --> 08:33.543\n什麼東西?就1.163號投完票現在的警力大概在選舉安全方面會比較投入那投完票以後再規劃一個執行的這個勤務\n\n08:36.328 --> 09:01.054\n我想這個也不要跟選舉扯上關係因為你講的可能是譬如說針對飆車的行為可能需要大量的這個警力來去做圍捕或是這個抓捕的動作這個平常檢舉這一些日常的情務其實都在處理所以現在你們就可以去做而且希望你們在法令解釋的這個態度上面要做個調整不要這麼被動以上謝謝好謝謝謝偉恩\n\n","segments":[{"start":0.595,"end":5.398,"text":"好 謝謝主席那我們請警政署黃署長我請黃署長委員好好 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