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00:00:19,522\n主席本席想邀請漁業署一起好了跟部長好嗎因為只有5加1謝謝請我們王部長跟我們漁業署劉組長\n\n2\n00:00:25,874 --> 00:00:40,973\n署長跟部長我們在109年10月29號的新聞看到非本國籍的抽砂船在我們澎湖我們的淺灘金門跟馬祖\n\n3\n00:00:43,757 --> 00:01:08,891\n都有這個非法海域來非法盜採土石這個嚴重影響到我們大量的流失跟海岸線地形的一個變動那在這樣的一個情況之下破壞了我們整個海洋環境跟自然生態所以有必要嚇阻的這個必要部長對不對那如果說我們要鎮定\n\n4\n00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:27,038\n未經許可以船舶或其他機械設備的方式在我國的內水以及我們的領海依照我們台灣地區大陸地區人民關係條例的第29條的第二項公告\n\n5\n00:01:27,839 --> 00:01:46,263\n那這個公告非常的清楚也就是說金門馬祖海沙地區的限制禁止水域採取土石者之行者那也明定了這個犯罪呢用的這個船舶或者是其他的設備其他的機械設備經判決沒收確定那得市級情況個案需要為適當的處置\n\n6\n00:01:55,305 --> 00:02:20,786\n那以懲不法以受嚇阻的這個作用那部長你頻頻點頭所以本席要請教那麼在於漁業署的立場針對於末路船隻的後續處理到底是拍賣或者是當漁交那漁業署你有什麼樣的完善的規劃以避免留在那邊干擾了我們的港口的一個運作請教部長\n\n7\n00:02:24,252 --> 00:02:41,719\n跟委員報告在過去行政院有開過會議有相關的就這個漁船被沒入部分有相關的這樣的一個程序有拍賣有這樣的一個可能有拍賣那可能有做一個國防部有做一個這個把船那另外漁業署部分我們也有盤點\n\n8\n00:02:42,859 --> 00:03:09,699\n可以做人工漁礁的地區目前有盤點出來那如果說到法院沒落之後如果沒有拍賣層會照這樣一個相關的順序會不會還做一些處理以上跟委員報告部長我們的法律明明規定有這樣的一個處理方式所以本期具體建立我們必須要積極作為因為港口是很寶貴如果放在那邊不理它那會影響到我們整個港口的運作好不好\n\n9\n00:03:10,299 --> 00:03:10,860\n接下來本席要請教部長\n\n10\n00:03:32,723 --> 00:03:53,274\n部長我們實質討論我也一直在跟你討論就是說我們要跟世界接軌2050年淨零排放的目標那台電跟歐洲商會也發表了淨零入境的報告書在這個情況之下針對於氫能電動車能源儲存電網升級跟風險管理太陽能發電\n\n11\n00:04:00,577 --> 00:04:25,063\n這個風力發電機呢葉片的回收尤其這個現在全世界在看葉片的回收要怎麼去處置好以及浮動離岸風電等那它的目的是在提供政策跟技術的一個解決方案來協助台灣能夠盡快的邁向近鄰的這個目標但是我們看到環境部\n\n12\n00:04:25,663 --> 00:04:52,485\n在公告的最新的碳排的這個碳排最新的這個碳排查的資料呢我們看到2020年最大的排碳大戶是有512家那在這樣情況之下前十大我請教部長你知道在這512家當中前十大的排碳大戶的前三名是誰嗎\n\n13\n00:04:54,674 --> 00:05:21,432\n這是公布的資料跟委員報告我們看到的是台塑中鋼台積電等等你第一個是台電你為什麼不講但是因為台電它是發電給別人用所以在現在的碳費裡面是不包括台電的但是它是源頭它是源頭本集跟你所說的是排碳大戶請針對議題回答排碳大戶不是有收跟沒有收\n\n14\n00:05:23,253 --> 00:05:40,158\n接下來我們再來討論那跟前一年的排名是大致相同但是我們減碳的壓力它是有增無減所以我做兩年度的一個比較仍舊前十大還是前十大\n\n15\n00:05:41,078 --> 00:05:45,881\n那壓力一直大那但是前時代還是前時代我們政府有什麼助為呢所以本席要請教在2024年開始要開增碳費對不對實質上是在2025年正式收費對好所以正式進入了排碳的有價時代對不對是\n\n16\n00:06:02,990 --> 00:06:09,074\n好所以針對於我們國營事業也是排碳大戶的情況之下本席要聽部長你有合作為具體的規劃來要求相關的前十大要怎麼樣近鄰這個轉型能夠成為一個表率呢尤其是我們國營事業單位請做說明\n\n17\n00:06:24,565 --> 00:06:28,448\n那第一個我們當然都有在相關的減排那特別是中油等等那台電呢在燃煤的部分中油在前十大他是第十名公司是第十名那所以兩年度比照起來他都是在前十名所以本席針對本席的問題提問你要怎麼樣去讓他們具體\n\n18\n00:06:51,471 --> 00:07:01,975\n有方案去讓他們去排除在前十大因為壓力越來越大那我們的作為本身要聽到的是我們的作為是什麼呢因為委員針對國營事業那台電的部分在我們目前的為止所以為什麼我們要爭氣才可以減煤所以我們也同意\n\n19\n00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:16,602\n蒸汽呢在兩年後中火必須要延一年這個我們共同中央地方合作也要謝謝那接下來你什麼作為呢再來就是說相關的這個減碳的這個作為呢其實各個廠或者是各個公司裡面呢其實我們都定期在追蹤他們有做減碳那中油公司也是一樣這個都是我們配合這個相關的一定要做的\n\n20\n00:07:41,818 --> 00:07:47,762\n那包括甚至不是這個國營事業的中鋼我們也是強烈要求中鋼要積極減碳那事實上我們去盤點這個十大的這個碳排的這個大戶呢在這幾年裡都有在很積極的做減碳但是像有一些的部分不容易減的部分呢就要去找新的方法所以在鋼鐵業的部分中鋼中農部分呢我們現在都在積極用這個相關的這個鋼料呢做比較\n\n21\n00:08:11,655 --> 00:08:33,735\n檢探的這個做法所以這個目前都是跟國際的趨勢在一起做相關的檢探作業部長你回答到這裡本席之所以問這個題目主要如果政府帶頭做相關的私人企業等他們會跟著所以本席希望政府要有所作為能夠當我們整個經濟的一個表率這個非常重要所以因此\n\n22\n00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:55,427\n我們一起努力那你也把你們目前所做的具體方案送一份書面資料給本席最後我給你一個功課我還是要拜託因為在我們所有的中小企業裡頭我們現在也努力像我們亞談神他們努力在做發表了40家未來我們會更努力希望下一次部長你可以來給我們鼓勵鼓勵\n\n23\n00:09:05,211 --> 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以受嚇阻的這個作用那部長你頻頻點頭所以本席要請教那麼在於漁業署的立場針對於末路船隻的後續處理到底是拍賣或者是當漁交那漁業署你有什麼樣的完善的規劃以避免留在那邊干擾了我們的港口的一個運作請教部長\n144252\t161719\t跟委員報告在過去行政院有開過會議有相關的就這個漁船被沒入部分有相關的這樣的一個程序有拍賣有這樣的一個可能有拍賣那可能有做一個國防部有做一個這個把船那另外漁業署部分我們也有盤點\n162859\t189699\t可以做人工漁礁的地區目前有盤點出來那如果說到法院沒落之後如果沒有拍賣層會照這樣一個相關的順序會不會還做一些處理以上跟委員報告部長我們的法律明明規定有這樣的一個處理方式所以本期具體建立我們必須要積極作為因為港口是很寶貴如果放在那邊不理它那會影響到我們整個港口的運作好不好\n190299\t190860\t接下來本席要請教部長\n212723\t233274\t部長我們實質討論我也一直在跟你討論就是說我們要跟世界接軌2050年淨零排放的目標那台電跟歐洲商會也發表了淨零入境的報告書在這個情況之下針對於氫能電動車能源儲存電網升級跟風險管理太陽能發電\n240577\t265063\t這個風力發電機呢 葉片的回收尤其這個現在全世界在看葉片的回收要怎麼去處置好 以及浮動離岸風電等那它的目的是在提供政策跟技術的一個解決方案來協助台灣能夠盡快的邁向近鄰的這個目標但是我們看到環境部\n265663\t292485\t在公告的最新的碳排的這個碳排最新的這個碳排查的資料呢我們看到2020年最大的排碳大戶是有512家那在這樣情況之下前十大我請教部長你知道在這512家當中前十大的排碳大戶的前三名是誰嗎\n294674\t321432\t這是公布的資料跟委員報告我們看到的是台塑中鋼台積電等等你第一個是台電你為什麼不講但是因為台電它是發電給別人用所以在現在的碳費裡面是不包括台電的但是它是源頭它是源頭本集跟你所說的是排碳大戶請針對議題回答排碳大戶不是有收跟沒有收\n323253\t340158\t接下來我們再來討論那跟前一年的排名是大致相同但是我們減碳的壓力它是有增無減所以我做兩年度的一個比較仍舊前十大還是前十大\n341078\t345881\t那壓力一直大那但是前時代還是前時代我們政府有什麼助為呢所以本席要請教在2024年開始要開增碳費對不對實質上是在2025年正式收費對好所以正式進入了排碳的有價時代對不對是\n362990\t369074\t好 所以針對於我們國營事業也是排碳大戶的情況之下本席要聽部長你有合作為具體的規劃來要求相關的前十大要怎麼樣近鄰這個轉型能夠成為一個表率呢尤其是我們國營事業單位 請做說明\n384565\t388448\t那第一個我們當然都有在相關的減排那特別是中油等等那台電呢在燃煤的部分中油在前十大他是第十名公司是第十名那所以兩年度比照起來他都是在前十名所以本席針對本席的問題提問你要怎麼樣去讓他們具體\n411471\t421975\t有方案去讓他們去排除在前十大因為壓力越來越大那我們的作為本身要聽到的是我們的作為是什麼呢因為委員針對國營事業那台電的部分在我們目前的為止所以為什麼我們要爭氣才可以減煤所以我們也同意\n433180\t436602\t蒸汽呢在兩年後中火必須要延一年這個我們共同中央地方合作也要謝謝那接下來你什麼作為呢再來就是說相關的這個減碳的這個作為呢其實各個廠或者是各個公司裡面呢其實我們都定期在追蹤他們有做減碳那中油公司也是一樣這個都是我們配合這個相關的一定要做的\n461818\t467762\t那包括甚至不是這個國營事業的中鋼我們也是強烈要求中鋼要積極減碳那事實上我們去盤點這個十大的這個碳排的這個大戶呢在這幾年裡都有在很積極的做減碳但是像有一些的部分不容易減的部分呢就要去找新的方法所以在鋼鐵業的部分中鋼中農部分呢我們現在都在積極用這個相關的這個鋼料呢做比較\n491655\t513735\t檢探的這個做法所以這個目前都是跟國際的趨勢在一起做相關的檢探作業部長你回答到這裡本席之所以問這個題目主要如果政府帶頭做相關的私人企業等他們會跟著所以本席希望政府要有所作為能夠當我們整個經濟的一個表率這個非常重要所以因此\n519159\t535427\t我們一起努力那你也把你們目前所做的具體方案送一份書面資料給本席最後我給你一個功課我還是要拜託因為在我們所有的中小企業裡頭我們現在也努力像我們亞談神他們努力在做發表了40家未來我們會更努力希望下一次部長你可以來給我們鼓勵鼓勵\n545211\t571374\t那但是我們所有的中小企業還是很緊張還是多數不清楚因為成本問題非常的重要尤其在我們中部地區整個機械類別我相信部長你清楚很緊張做兩天做三天休四天休五天已經呈現所以我希望政府要好好的來協助我們我們一起加油好不好是的謝謝\n","txt":"主席本席想邀請漁業署一起好了跟部長好嗎因為只有5加1謝謝請我們王部長跟我們漁業署劉組長\n署長跟部長我們在109年10月29號的新聞看到非本國籍的抽砂船在我們澎湖我們的淺灘金門跟馬祖\n都有這個非法海域來非法盜採土石這個嚴重影響到我們大量的流失跟海岸線地形的一個變動那在這樣的一個情況之下破壞了我們整個海洋環境跟自然生態所以有必要嚇阻的這個必要部長對不對那如果說我們要鎮定\n未經許可 以船舶或其他機械設備的方式在我國的內水以及我們的領海依照我們台灣地區大陸地區人民關係條例的第29條的第二項公告\n那這個公告非常的清楚也就是說金門馬祖海沙地區的限制禁止水域採取土石者之行者那也明定了這個犯罪呢用的這個船舶或者是其他的設備其他的機械設備經判決沒收確定那得市級情況個案需要為適當的處置\n那以懲不法 以受嚇阻的這個作用那部長你頻頻點頭所以本席要請教那麼在於漁業署的立場針對於末路船隻的後續處理到底是拍賣或者是當漁交那漁業署你有什麼樣的完善的規劃以避免留在那邊干擾了我們的港口的一個運作請教部長\n跟委員報告在過去行政院有開過會議有相關的就這個漁船被沒入部分有相關的這樣的一個程序有拍賣有這樣的一個可能有拍賣那可能有做一個國防部有做一個這個把船那另外漁業署部分我們也有盤點\n可以做人工漁礁的地區目前有盤點出來那如果說到法院沒落之後如果沒有拍賣層會照這樣一個相關的順序會不會還做一些處理以上跟委員報告部長我們的法律明明規定有這樣的一個處理方式所以本期具體建立我們必須要積極作為因為港口是很寶貴如果放在那邊不理它那會影響到我們整個港口的運作好不好\n接下來本席要請教部長\n部長我們實質討論我也一直在跟你討論就是說我們要跟世界接軌2050年淨零排放的目標那台電跟歐洲商會也發表了淨零入境的報告書在這個情況之下針對於氫能電動車能源儲存電網升級跟風險管理太陽能發電\n這個風力發電機呢 葉片的回收尤其這個現在全世界在看葉片的回收要怎麼去處置好 以及浮動離岸風電等那它的目的是在提供政策跟技術的一個解決方案來協助台灣能夠盡快的邁向近鄰的這個目標但是我們看到環境部\n在公告的最新的碳排的這個碳排最新的這個碳排查的資料呢我們看到2020年最大的排碳大戶是有512家那在這樣情況之下前十大我請教部長你知道在這512家當中前十大的排碳大戶的前三名是誰嗎\n這是公布的資料跟委員報告我們看到的是台塑中鋼台積電等等你第一個是台電你為什麼不講但是因為台電它是發電給別人用所以在現在的碳費裡面是不包括台電的但是它是源頭它是源頭本集跟你所說的是排碳大戶請針對議題回答排碳大戶不是有收跟沒有收\n接下來我們再來討論那跟前一年的排名是大致相同但是我們減碳的壓力它是有增無減所以我做兩年度的一個比較仍舊前十大還是前十大\n那壓力一直大那但是前時代還是前時代我們政府有什麼助為呢所以本席要請教在2024年開始要開增碳費對不對實質上是在2025年正式收費對好所以正式進入了排碳的有價時代對不對是\n好 所以針對於我們國營事業也是排碳大戶的情況之下本席要聽部長你有合作為具體的規劃來要求相關的前十大要怎麼樣近鄰這個轉型能夠成為一個表率呢尤其是我們國營事業單位 請做說明\n那第一個我們當然都有在相關的減排那特別是中油等等那台電呢在燃煤的部分中油在前十大他是第十名公司是第十名那所以兩年度比照起來他都是在前十名所以本席針對本席的問題提問你要怎麼樣去讓他們具體\n有方案去讓他們去排除在前十大因為壓力越來越大那我們的作為本身要聽到的是我們的作為是什麼呢因為委員針對國營事業那台電的部分在我們目前的為止所以為什麼我們要爭氣才可以減煤所以我們也同意\n蒸汽呢在兩年後中火必須要延一年這個我們共同中央地方合作也要謝謝那接下來你什麼作為呢再來就是說相關的這個減碳的這個作為呢其實各個廠或者是各個公司裡面呢其實我們都定期在追蹤他們有做減碳那中油公司也是一樣這個都是我們配合這個相關的一定要做的\n那包括甚至不是這個國營事業的中鋼我們也是強烈要求中鋼要積極減碳那事實上我們去盤點這個十大的這個碳排的這個大戶呢在這幾年裡都有在很積極的做減碳但是像有一些的部分不容易減的部分呢就要去找新的方法所以在鋼鐵業的部分中鋼中農部分呢我們現在都在積極用這個相關的這個鋼料呢做比較\n檢探的這個做法所以這個目前都是跟國際的趨勢在一起做相關的檢探作業部長你回答到這裡本席之所以問這個題目主要如果政府帶頭做相關的私人企業等他們會跟著所以本席希望政府要有所作為能夠當我們整個經濟的一個表率這個非常重要所以因此\n我們一起努力那你也把你們目前所做的具體方案送一份書面資料給本席最後我給你一個功課我還是要拜託因為在我們所有的中小企業裡頭我們現在也努力像我們亞談神他們努力在做發表了40家未來我們會更努力希望下一次部長你可以來給我們鼓勵鼓勵\n那但是我們所有的中小企業還是很緊張還是多數不清楚因為成本問題非常的重要尤其在我們中部地區整個機械類別我相信部長你清楚很緊張做兩天做三天休四天休五天已經呈現所以我希望政府要好好的來協助我們我們一起加油好不好是的謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.345 --> 00:19.522\n主席本席想邀請漁業署一起好了跟部長好嗎因為只有5加1謝謝請我們王部長跟我們漁業署劉組長\n\n00:25.874 --> 00:40.973\n署長跟部長我們在109年10月29號的新聞看到非本國籍的抽砂船在我們澎湖我們的淺灘金門跟馬祖\n\n00:43.757 --> 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