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00:01:16,010\n我們強化我們自我防衛能力,不做任何挑釁這也就我們能夠對這個和平啊,貢獻的一個最具體的...我直接問部長,部長你覺得這八年台灣有沒有做任何挑釁的動作?這八年就好台灣從來沒有做任何挑釁的動作\n\n5\n00:01:17,812 --> 00:01:33,255\n他認為在軍事方面的挑釁從來沒有做,但中共認為不管是政治或商業或什麼條約等等,他這個界定就挑釁不見得是軍事方面\n\n6\n00:01:33,675 --> 00:01:47,711\n那這我就沒有什麼意見民主國家裡面要去發動戰爭不是那麼容易的一件事情但是專制的國家恐怕就一個人的決定可能就會做的決定所以我們擔憂就擔憂這個所以我們必須防止的是\n\n7\n00:01:48,992 --> 00:02:06,039\n專制者獨裁者一個人的一個決定就是說如果他要做出任何這樣的決定的時候他會面臨到很大的壓力不管是他內部的壓力甚至於他政權的壓力甚至於國際的壓力的時候他就不會輕易的做出這樣決定而在要給予的時候是必須多面去進行的包括\n\n8\n00:02:06,579 --> 00:02:32,224\n你可能被攻擊被驅逆者你本身必須要強大的一個保衛能力的時候他才不敢輕易的發動這樣戰爭因為他一旦發動有可能內部就產生很大的政爭內部產生很大的變動那他就會謹慎做這樣決定部長同意這樣的看法嗎我同意就我剛剛跟委員報這就是一個自我防衛的這個能力一定要有就任何國家有文士者必有五倍這不是我講的千古不變的一個定理\n\n9\n00:02:33,504 --> 00:02:53,694\n所以我想台灣不挑釁但是台灣也要必須強化自己的防衛能力那我想接下來再問一下因為我們的這個潛艦國造其實就是一個防衛能力的增加我們不會主動的去那個但是當你有潛艦在的時候其實就能夠增強更大嚇阻力你想要去對台灣發動\n\n10\n00:02:54,935 --> 00:03:14,655\n任何不管世界各這個想要對台灣發動任何的時候他就會產生更大的嚇阻力部長同意這樣的看法吧我也同意就想說我們沒有挑釁別人但我們也要讓任何人知道假如你來侵犯我的話你本身你要付出代價部長那我問一下那什麼樣的人會阻止或反對台灣發這個製造潛艦\n\n11\n00:03:17,017 --> 00:03:30,416\n我不認為有哪個在反對,因為在製造過程當中有些疑慮委員到時候來以後我並沒有認定哪些委員會對我怎麼樣,沒有委員他會有一個問題的質詢,這是他的責任\n\n12\n00:03:33,741 --> 00:04:00,778\n盡量要答覆,這我背後...部長,那我問你如果想要侵略者,會不會想要去阻止你的潛艦的建立,會不會比如說如果是專制的中共如果是民主的國家,大概對這個東西應該是比較還好一點中共不光對我們潛艦有問題它在我們任何一樣軍品的採購或研發,它都有問題因為只要它具有想要去侵略你的一個企圖心的時候它就有可能去希望你都不要...對,我們放棄我們的武裝嘛\n\n13\n00:04:01,838 --> 00:04:26,869\n這是任何一個敵對國家他對對方的期望都這樣子啊但沒有任何國家可以接受啊是啊所以民主國家不會輕易的去對民主國家去發動任何嘛因為你說美國、日本或其他的民主國家他不會輕易的做這樣的事情嘛去發動任何的一個戰爭但是專制的國家具有這個獨裁者的國家是有可能會因為他的誤判而發出了這樣的訊號出來嘛\n\n14\n00:04:29,431 --> 00:04:49,949\n我們國軍一直在做的就是戰訓我們的本務我們所做的就是防止任何外來單位對這個我們全力支持全力支持國防部來做好這樣子我們的防衛的動作那我問一下接下來潛艦的原型艦完成之後後續的國造的潛艦的部分會不會繼續來進行海軍\n\n15\n00:04:54,417 --> 00:05:15,973\n包委員現在後續的潛艦國造目前我們還正在完整的建案規劃中所以持續的進行當中那會不會有變數目前沒有不會有變數這是大家共同的決心希望部長講的全民大家全部共同的決心就是我們要繼續來完成這些的潛艦來做自我的防衛所以強化我們國防嘛\n\n16\n00:05:16,693 --> 00:05:31,463\n那所以後續的潛艦都會如期來完成嗎?部長這沒有問題吧?我們就講說先把這個測評都沒有問題了打好一個很好的基礎後面的發展就如計畫來完成那部長會不會擔心未來會有變化?\n\n17\n00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:52,478\n這是我們大家要注意的你想擔心不擔心每件事情只要在推動當中我們擔憂的不講它能不能完成而是說擔憂我們大家共同合作的有沒有按照這個計畫在做不要辣掉了國防部長我還是希望國防部就保衛中華民國保衛台灣的安全這樣的角度還是要不斷跟國人去講\n\n18\n00:05:53,218 --> 00:06:21,418\n這些事情的重要性不管是潛艦不管是國艦國造不管是國家的各項重要的軍備要不斷的去跟國人說明唯有讓國人不斷的支持國防支持台灣的國防支持中華民國防的時候我們才有更強的一個能夠保衛自己的能力這要不斷的說明我跟委員報告我從當部長到現在我倒還沒有遇到哪一個不支持國防的啦講真話他們關切的這個課題會讓人覺得我們在好像要做一個什麼阻攔\n\n19\n00:06:22,259 --> 00:06:41,554\n我到目前沒有任何的叫我停職啊這些工作,沒有謝謝,謝謝部長,我希望國防部繼續努力的來推動啦特別是跟國人的說明跟這個讓他們更了解那我想問一下,除了潛艦國造,國艦國造未來會不會持續來推動這也是有計畫也在持續推動的來,要不要說明一下\n\n20\n00:06:42,403 --> 00:07:11,216\n包委員我們有關於國艦國造的部分現在全部都是按照計畫陸續在執行之中那未來還有沒有再繼續這個會還有還會嗎是我們也希望持續的強化因為現在這個這個海洋的部分其實未來都是一個重要的如果我們有更強的嚇阻力在那個特別是海洋的部分大家都越來越重視的時候那你有更強的一個保衛能力跟嚇阻力的時候我們就能夠展現更強的我們自己的國力\n\n21\n00:07:12,276 --> 00:07:19,604\n好謝謝那我希望後續上面持續來做一個這樣的一個推動那最後我是不是請一下經濟部了好不好部長請先回產發署連署長\n\n22\n00:07:31,229 --> 00:07:57,354\n署長我先講剩最後一點點時間署長當然部長也都在這邊我還是要強調這個所有的船的部分其實不管是造船台船或者是國家的一些重要的幾乎都是落在高雄不管是國家的幾個重要的一個船廠的部分那船舶的中心唯獨就是在北部我希望未來應該要持續地加重你不要讓你的製造基地跟你的研發是分在兩個地方\n\n23\n00:07:58,774 --> 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請邱部長邱部長請\n10319\t30885\t部長好,首先還是先請教一下,特別在選舉期間大家開始關心戰爭與和平,當然大家都尋求和平,沒有人會主動想要發動戰爭,更何況是民主國家,更不會有。國際專家也大概都有提了一些對台灣的建議,部長怎麼看待,我們怎麼樣去尋求我們的和平?\n31974\t59397\t我覺得我們防備的工作一定要做你要講有文士者必有武備我想這個國家在什麼民主在什麼專制你本身防衛的力量要有防衛力量我們已經講得很清楚國軍沒有投射到哪裡去作戰的問題也沒有主動挑釁的問題完全是抬棚防衛戰自我防衛的能力我想在這一方面\n60057\t76010\t我們強化我們自我防衛能力,不做任何挑釁這也就我們能夠對這個和平啊,貢獻的一個最具體的...我直接問部長,部長你覺得這八年台灣有沒有做任何挑釁的動作?這八年就好台灣從來沒有做任何挑釁的動作\n77812\t93255\t他認為在軍事方面的挑釁從來沒有做,但中共認為不管是政治或商業或什麼條約等等,他這個界定就挑釁不見得是軍事方面\n93675\t107711\t那這我就沒有什麼意見民主國家裡面要去發動戰爭不是那麼容易的一件事情但是專制的國家恐怕就一個人的決定可能就會做的決定所以我們擔憂就擔憂這個所以我們必須防止的是\n108992\t126039\t專制者獨裁者一個人的一個決定就是說如果他要做出任何這樣的決定的時候他會面臨到很大的壓力不管是他內部的壓力甚至於他政權的壓力甚至於國際的壓力的時候他就不會輕易的做出這樣決定而在要給予的時候是必須多面去進行的包括\n126579\t152224\t你可能被攻擊被驅逆者你本身必須要強大的一個保衛能力的時候他才不敢輕易的發動這樣戰爭因為他一旦發動有可能內部就產生很大的政爭內部產生很大的變動那他就會謹慎做這樣決定部長同意這樣的看法嗎我同意就我剛剛跟委員報這就是一個自我防衛的這個能力一定要有就任何國家有文士者必有五倍這不是我講的千古不變的一個定理\n153504\t173694\t所以我想台灣不挑釁但是台灣也要必須強化自己的防衛能力那我想接下來再問一下因為我們的這個潛艦國造其實就是一個防衛能力的增加我們不會主動的去那個但是當你有潛艦在的時候其實就能夠增強更大嚇阻力你想要去對台灣發動\n174935\t194655\t任何不管世界各這個想要對台灣發動任何的時候他就會產生更大的嚇阻力部長同意這樣的看法吧我也同意就想說我們沒有挑釁別人但我們也要讓任何人知道假如你來侵犯我的話你本身你要付出代價部長那我問一下那什麼樣的人會阻止或反對台灣發這個製造潛艦\n197017\t210416\t我不認為有哪個在反對,因為在製造過程當中有些疑慮委員到時候來以後我並沒有認定哪些委員會對我怎麼樣,沒有委員他會有一個問題的質詢,這是他的責任\n213741\t240778\t盡量要答覆,這我背後...部長,那我問你如果想要侵略者,會不會想要去阻止你的潛艦的建立,會不會比如說如果是專制的中共如果是民主的國家,大概對這個東西應該是比較還好一點中共不光對我們潛艦有問題它在我們任何一樣軍品的採購或研發,它都有問題因為只要它具有想要去侵略你的一個企圖心的時候它就有可能去希望你都不要...對,我們放棄我們的武裝嘛\n241838\t266869\t這是任何一個敵對國家他對對方的期望都這樣子啊但沒有任何國家可以接受啊是啊 所以民主國家不會輕易的去對民主國家去發動任何嘛因為你說美國、日本或其他的民主國家他不會輕易的做這樣的事情嘛去發動任何的一個戰爭但是專制的國家具有這個獨裁者的國家是有可能會因為他的誤判而發出了這樣的訊號出來嘛\n269431\t289949\t我們國軍一直在做的就是戰訓我們的本務我們所做的就是防止任何外來單位對 這個我們全力支持全力支持國防部來做好這樣子我們的防衛的動作那我問一下接下來潛艦的原型艦完成之後後續的國造的潛艦的部分會不會繼續來進行海軍\n294417\t315973\t包委員現在後續的潛艦國造目前我們還正在完整的建案規劃中所以持續的進行當中那會不會有變數目前沒有不會有變數這是大家共同的決心希望部長講的全民大家全部共同的決心就是我們要繼續來完成這些的潛艦來做自我的防衛所以強化我們國防嘛\n316693\t331463\t那所以後續的潛艦都會如期來完成嗎?部長這沒有問題吧?我們就講說先把這個測評都沒有問題了打好一個很好的基礎後面的發展就如計畫來完成那部長會不會擔心未來會有變化?\n332550\t352478\t這是我們大家要注意的你想擔心不擔心每件事情只要在推動當中我們擔憂的不講它能不能完成而是說擔憂我們大家共同合作的有沒有按照這個計畫在做不要辣掉了國防部長我還是希望國防部就保衛中華民國保衛台灣的安全這樣的角度還是要不斷跟國人去講\n353218\t381418\t這些事情的重要性不管是潛艦不管是國艦國造不管是國家的各項重要的軍備要不斷的去跟國人說明唯有讓國人不斷的支持國防支持台灣的國防支持中華民國防的時候我們才有更強的一個能夠保衛自己的能力這要不斷的說明我跟委員報告我從當部長到現在我倒還沒有遇到哪一個不支持國防的啦講真話他們關切的這個課題會讓人覺得我們在好像要做一個什麼阻攔\n382259\t401554\t我到目前沒有任何的叫我停職啊這些工作,沒有謝謝,謝謝部長,我希望國防部繼續努力的來推動啦特別是跟國人的說明跟這個讓他們更了解那我想問一下,除了潛艦國造,國艦國造未來會不會持續來推動這也是有計畫也在持續推動的來,要不要說明一下\n402403\t431216\t包委員我們有關於國艦國造的部分現在全部都是按照計畫陸續在執行之中那未來還有沒有再繼續這個會 還有還會嗎 是我們也希望持續的強化因為現在這個這個海洋的部分其實未來都是一個重要的如果我們有更強的嚇阻力在那個特別是海洋的部分大家都越來越重視的時候那你有更強的一個保衛能力跟嚇阻力的時候我們就能夠展現更強的我們自己的國力\n432276\t439604\t好 謝謝 那我希望後續上面持續來做一個這樣的一個推動那最後我是不是請一下經濟部了好不好部長請先回產發署連署長\n451229\t477354\t署長我先講 剩最後一點點時間署長當然 部長也都在這邊我還是要強調這個所有的船的部分其實不管是造船 台船或者是國家的一些重要的幾乎都是落在高雄不管是國家的幾個重要的一個船廠的部分那船舶的中心唯獨就是在北部我希望未來應該要持續地加重你不要讓你的製造基地跟你的研發是分在兩個地方\n478774\t499903\t這個絕對是會產生你的製造最強的地點是在南部在高雄的時候那你就應該讓你研發多一點去跟那個因為當地會有很多的一些各種技術上的合作或者是新的一些研究出來那我希望未來讓這個研發的部分讓這個船舶中心部分應該要多一點跟南部的合作我認為應該往高雄去移動才能夠整個讓我們的船舶的設計船舶的製造能夠更強的一個效果\n502944\t529334\t署長同意這樣的看法嗎同意所以說在進攻中心現在有成立一個船舶的那個特別一個處所以這也是要加強在南部這一部分來做研發我希望後續的部分經濟部各部會的部分應該要加強對這一塊當我們最強的都在南部的時候我們造船實力最強都在南部的時候研發跟整個所有的研究的部分也應該要往南部去移動才能夠讓它整個不要把製造紙放在南部然後研發都放在北部我認為這個長遠是其實是不好的效果的好 謝謝署長 謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝趙薇 請邱部長邱部長請\n部長好,首先還是先請教一下,特別在選舉期間大家開始關心戰爭與和平,當然大家都尋求和平,沒有人會主動想要發動戰爭,更何況是民主國家,更不會有。國際專家也大概都有提了一些對台灣的建議,部長怎麼看待,我們怎麼樣去尋求我們的和平?\n我覺得我們防備的工作一定要做你要講有文士者必有武備我想這個國家在什麼民主在什麼專制你本身防衛的力量要有防衛力量我們已經講得很清楚國軍沒有投射到哪裡去作戰的問題也沒有主動挑釁的問題完全是抬棚防衛戰自我防衛的能力我想在這一方面\n我們強化我們自我防衛能力,不做任何挑釁這也就我們能夠對這個和平啊,貢獻的一個最具體的...我直接問部長,部長你覺得這八年台灣有沒有做任何挑釁的動作?這八年就好台灣從來沒有做任何挑釁的動作\n他認為在軍事方面的挑釁從來沒有做,但中共認為不管是政治或商業或什麼條約等等,他這個界定就挑釁不見得是軍事方面\n那這我就沒有什麼意見民主國家裡面要去發動戰爭不是那麼容易的一件事情但是專制的國家恐怕就一個人的決定可能就會做的決定所以我們擔憂就擔憂這個所以我們必須防止的是\n專制者獨裁者一個人的一個決定就是說如果他要做出任何這樣的決定的時候他會面臨到很大的壓力不管是他內部的壓力甚至於他政權的壓力甚至於國際的壓力的時候他就不會輕易的做出這樣決定而在要給予的時候是必須多面去進行的包括\n你可能被攻擊被驅逆者你本身必須要強大的一個保衛能力的時候他才不敢輕易的發動這樣戰爭因為他一旦發動有可能內部就產生很大的政爭內部產生很大的變動那他就會謹慎做這樣決定部長同意這樣的看法嗎我同意就我剛剛跟委員報這就是一個自我防衛的這個能力一定要有就任何國家有文士者必有五倍這不是我講的千古不變的一個定理\n所以我想台灣不挑釁但是台灣也要必須強化自己的防衛能力那我想接下來再問一下因為我們的這個潛艦國造其實就是一個防衛能力的增加我們不會主動的去那個但是當你有潛艦在的時候其實就能夠增強更大嚇阻力你想要去對台灣發動\n任何不管世界各這個想要對台灣發動任何的時候他就會產生更大的嚇阻力部長同意這樣的看法吧我也同意就想說我們沒有挑釁別人但我們也要讓任何人知道假如你來侵犯我的話你本身你要付出代價部長那我問一下那什麼樣的人會阻止或反對台灣發這個製造潛艦\n我不認為有哪個在反對,因為在製造過程當中有些疑慮委員到時候來以後我並沒有認定哪些委員會對我怎麼樣,沒有委員他會有一個問題的質詢,這是他的責任\n盡量要答覆,這我背後...部長,那我問你如果想要侵略者,會不會想要去阻止你的潛艦的建立,會不會比如說如果是專制的中共如果是民主的國家,大概對這個東西應該是比較還好一點中共不光對我們潛艦有問題它在我們任何一樣軍品的採購或研發,它都有問題因為只要它具有想要去侵略你的一個企圖心的時候它就有可能去希望你都不要...對,我們放棄我們的武裝嘛\n這是任何一個敵對國家他對對方的期望都這樣子啊但沒有任何國家可以接受啊是啊 所以民主國家不會輕易的去對民主國家去發動任何嘛因為你說美國、日本或其他的民主國家他不會輕易的做這樣的事情嘛去發動任何的一個戰爭但是專制的國家具有這個獨裁者的國家是有可能會因為他的誤判而發出了這樣的訊號出來嘛\n我們國軍一直在做的就是戰訓我們的本務我們所做的就是防止任何外來單位對 這個我們全力支持全力支持國防部來做好這樣子我們的防衛的動作那我問一下接下來潛艦的原型艦完成之後後續的國造的潛艦的部分會不會繼續來進行海軍\n包委員現在後續的潛艦國造目前我們還正在完整的建案規劃中所以持續的進行當中那會不會有變數目前沒有不會有變數這是大家共同的決心希望部長講的全民大家全部共同的決心就是我們要繼續來完成這些的潛艦來做自我的防衛所以強化我們國防嘛\n那所以後續的潛艦都會如期來完成嗎?部長這沒有問題吧?我們就講說先把這個測評都沒有問題了打好一個很好的基礎後面的發展就如計畫來完成那部長會不會擔心未來會有變化?\n這是我們大家要注意的你想擔心不擔心每件事情只要在推動當中我們擔憂的不講它能不能完成而是說擔憂我們大家共同合作的有沒有按照這個計畫在做不要辣掉了國防部長我還是希望國防部就保衛中華民國保衛台灣的安全這樣的角度還是要不斷跟國人去講\n這些事情的重要性不管是潛艦不管是國艦國造不管是國家的各項重要的軍備要不斷的去跟國人說明唯有讓國人不斷的支持國防支持台灣的國防支持中華民國防的時候我們才有更強的一個能夠保衛自己的能力這要不斷的說明我跟委員報告我從當部長到現在我倒還沒有遇到哪一個不支持國防的啦講真話他們關切的這個課題會讓人覺得我們在好像要做一個什麼阻攔\n我到目前沒有任何的叫我停職啊這些工作,沒有謝謝,謝謝部長,我希望國防部繼續努力的來推動啦特別是跟國人的說明跟這個讓他們更了解那我想問一下,除了潛艦國造,國艦國造未來會不會持續來推動這也是有計畫也在持續推動的來,要不要說明一下\n包委員我們有關於國艦國造的部分現在全部都是按照計畫陸續在執行之中那未來還有沒有再繼續這個會 還有還會嗎 是我們也希望持續的強化因為現在這個這個海洋的部分其實未來都是一個重要的如果我們有更強的嚇阻力在那個特別是海洋的部分大家都越來越重視的時候那你有更強的一個保衛能力跟嚇阻力的時候我們就能夠展現更強的我們自己的國力\n好 謝謝 那我希望後續上面持續來做一個這樣的一個推動那最後我是不是請一下經濟部了好不好部長請先回產發署連署長\n署長我先講 剩最後一點點時間署長當然 部長也都在這邊我還是要強調這個所有的船的部分其實不管是造船 台船或者是國家的一些重要的幾乎都是落在高雄不管是國家的幾個重要的一個船廠的部分那船舶的中心唯獨就是在北部我希望未來應該要持續地加重你不要讓你的製造基地跟你的研發是分在兩個地方\n這個絕對是會產生你的製造最強的地點是在南部在高雄的時候那你就應該讓你研發多一點去跟那個因為當地會有很多的一些各種技術上的合作或者是新的一些研究出來那我希望未來讓這個研發的部分讓這個船舶中心部分應該要多一點跟南部的合作我認為應該往高雄去移動才能夠整個讓我們的船舶的設計船舶的製造能夠更強的一個效果\n署長同意這樣的看法嗎同意所以說在進攻中心現在有成立一個船舶的那個特別一個處所以這也是要加強在南部這一部分來做研發我希望後續的部分經濟部各部會的部分應該要加強對這一塊當我們最強的都在南部的時候我們造船實力最強都在南部的時候研發跟整個所有的研究的部分也應該要往南部去移動才能夠讓它整個不要把製造紙放在南部然後研發都放在北部我認為這個長遠是其實是不好的效果的好 謝謝署長 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.478 --> 00:01.901\n好謝謝趙薇請邱部長邱部長請\n\n00:10.319 --> 00:30.885\n部長好,首先還是先請教一下,特別在選舉期間大家開始關心戰爭與和平,當然大家都尋求和平,沒有人會主動想要發動戰爭,更何況是民主國家,更不會有。國際專家也大概都有提了一些對台灣的建議,部長怎麼看待,我們怎麼樣去尋求我們的和平?\n\n00:31.974 --> 00:59.397\n我覺得我們防備的工作一定要做你要講有文士者必有武備我想這個國家在什麼民主在什麼專制你本身防衛的力量要有防衛力量我們已經講得很清楚國軍沒有投射到哪裡去作戰的問題也沒有主動挑釁的問題完全是抬棚防衛戰自我防衛的能力我想在這一方面\n\n01:00.057 --> 01:16.010\n我們強化我們自我防衛能力,不做任何挑釁這也就我們能夠對這個和平啊,貢獻的一個最具體的...我直接問部長,部長你覺得這八年台灣有沒有做任何挑釁的動作?這八年就好台灣從來沒有做任何挑釁的動作\n\n01:17.812 --> 01:33.255\n他認為在軍事方面的挑釁從來沒有做,但中共認為不管是政治或商業或什麼條約等等,他這個界定就挑釁不見得是軍事方面\n\n01:33.675 --> 01:47.711\n那這我就沒有什麼意見民主國家裡面要去發動戰爭不是那麼容易的一件事情但是專制的國家恐怕就一個人的決定可能就會做的決定所以我們擔憂就擔憂這個所以我們必須防止的是\n\n01:48.992 --> 02:06.039\n專制者獨裁者一個人的一個決定就是說如果他要做出任何這樣的決定的時候他會面臨到很大的壓力不管是他內部的壓力甚至於他政權的壓力甚至於國際的壓力的時候他就不會輕易的做出這樣決定而在要給予的時候是必須多面去進行的包括\n\n02:06.579 --> 02:32.224\n你可能被攻擊被驅逆者你本身必須要強大的一個保衛能力的時候他才不敢輕易的發動這樣戰爭因為他一旦發動有可能內部就產生很大的政爭內部產生很大的變動那他就會謹慎做這樣決定部長同意這樣的看法嗎我同意就我剛剛跟委員報這就是一個自我防衛的這個能力一定要有就任何國家有文士者必有五倍這不是我講的千古不變的一個定理\n\n02:33.504 --> 02:53.694\n所以我想台灣不挑釁但是台灣也要必須強化自己的防衛能力那我想接下來再問一下因為我們的這個潛艦國造其實就是一個防衛能力的增加我們不會主動的去那個但是當你有潛艦在的時候其實就能夠增強更大嚇阻力你想要去對台灣發動\n\n02:54.935 --> 03:14.655\n任何不管世界各這個想要對台灣發動任何的時候他就會產生更大的嚇阻力部長同意這樣的看法吧我也同意就想說我們沒有挑釁別人但我們也要讓任何人知道假如你來侵犯我的話你本身你要付出代價部長那我問一下那什麼樣的人會阻止或反對台灣發這個製造潛艦\n\n03:17.017 --> 03:30.416\n我不認為有哪個在反對,因為在製造過程當中有些疑慮委員到時候來以後我並沒有認定哪些委員會對我怎麼樣,沒有委員他會有一個問題的質詢,這是他的責任\n\n03:33.741 --> 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