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00:02:47,144\n對,如果他有這樣意願,有這個可能性,我們必須要提供這樣的一個彈性措施所以我們會在學期間,他原來各校可能有限制學位分的休息的學位分數我們會希望他給他增加,針對有申請這個專案的學位分數另外在這,暑期的暑休,還有像跨校的選休這個本席剛剛已經告訴你了,就是在你暑假寒假嘛那現在申請的人數有提高嗎?\n\n8\n00:02:47,925 --> 00:03:16,731\n是跟委員報告大概因為是從這個學年開始有學生陸續要來申請那目前我們收到各校已經到目前為止都是我們的大概到12月5號的資料為止已經有七個學校總共有46名學生來向學校跟你們預估的人數相符合嗎這個預估我們不敢因為是尊重學校的一個學生的自由的意願所以我們比較難去預估說所以目前46位你滿意嗎\n\n9\n00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:32,969\n針對這個政策當然我們還是配合國防政策希望持續來透過學校來跟學生來宣導好那我們再請部長好嗎國防部長謝謝邱部長請教育部你稍等謝謝我們一起來討論部長因為教育部現在說是我們這邊的需求那現在的這個人數你滿意嗎\n\n10\n00:03:44,315 --> 00:04:00,784\n我沒有什麼滿意不滿意,我們當初訂這個義務要服的話,我們只要求這一年是連著服役,沒有服了一半,寒假來一個階段,暑假來一個階段,其他的配套的話,因為教育部他有他的做法,那你有沒有人數的KPI?\n\n11\n00:04:02,335 --> 00:04:19,204\n有沒有人數你的希望?有沒有?我沒有期望這樣,三加一個部長沒有期望喔?我沒有,我只要能夠如期的按照我們推動一年期一期來服役當然有一個政策,我們當然有一個目標嘛那現在教育部在這邊是46名那你們國務部的目標,認為這樣夠嗎?沒有,我們沒有設定這個目標嘛來請說,請說\n\n12\n00:04:30,814 --> 00:04:51,030\n來請單位主管來說明一下謝謝委員跟委員報告因為這個是整個疫情調整的一個配套我們是提供那個有需要的一個在學藝男的學生他一個多元的選項只可以給他一個管道跟一個選項依他個人的意願跟他的能力來提出需求所以並不是以他的數目的多寡來作為他那個KPI的指標\n\n13\n00:04:51,650 --> 00:05:18,605\n就是給他提高一個管道提高一個管道大家聽到了所以不用壓力要好好努力去做就對了那接下來部長因為單位需求的人是在您這邊來訓練但是教育部在這邊也就是大專院校有七個學校願意要努力去辦但是也有學校拒絕嘛教育部是不是也有學校跟你們說我沒辦法配合\n\n14\n00:05:19,145 --> 00:05:39,854\n不會跟委員報告因為我們是因為從這個學期開始才開始因為有民國94年次的學生所以現在是有七所學校要辦目前已經有了七所學校46個學生那陸續還會有陸續七所學校目前我們也希望政府既然既定政策那就是要去落實\n\n15\n00:05:41,855 --> 00:06:00,535\n如果人家願意要辦你們不管在經費或者是在需要協助的時候就要全力以赴才能夠達成成功嘛好不好這個要努力喔好不好那你們到一個階段請把數字給我有幾家學校願意持續再辦那人數到底多少你在書院資料給本席好嗎你請回座部長\n\n16\n00:06:02,037 --> 00:06:26,814\n本校請教我們的一呼一啟從現在的四個月恢復到一年那麼我們規劃有五個階段的訓練包括陸武的基礎訓練駐地訓練等等那最迷人的就是說在他們訓練的當中步槍兵他實際的射擊數不得低於800發還有就是說他期望能夠有高階的就操作這個標槍的飛彈\n\n17\n00:06:32,257 --> 00:06:51,657\n還有這個刺針飛彈等等高階的專長武器的訓練那所以這個大家就非常期待那所以請教部長我們現在符合訓練的基地夠不夠訓練的這個我們目前大概要有服一年的會有9000多人嗎我們統計大概9127人那麼\n\n18\n00:06:56,201 --> 00:07:05,087\n每一年一定會再增加會再增加在這樣的情況之下本席要請教部長我們訓練的基地現在到底夠還是不夠來請教\n\n19\n00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:25,991\n訓練基地是因為它原本就有新訓任務有幾個旅長期以來都是這幾個後來為了這一回一年一起增加涉及的數量也要增加開闢或者去找有些靶場可以在那邊實施訓練的我們普遍的來運用現在準備好了嗎\n\n20\n00:07:26,971 --> 00:07:45,942\n我們都是同步在做的,去年宣布以後一年多前就編組了專案小組,針對住用還有訓場,通通在同步的所以換句話說,我們這九千多個一年期的藝南,他的訓練場所是準備好了?我可以這麼解讀嗎?準備好,準備有問題\n\n21\n00:07:48,543 --> 00:08:05,437\n所以本席要再請教我們的軍事投資案的計畫因為我們希望計轉能夠讓我國的國防產業它能夠跟世界來接軌這個是我非常支持的一點所以本席要請教\n\n22\n00:08:06,838 --> 00:08:24,032\n我們跟經濟部跟外商的這個簽託工業合作協議書呢那這個要先簽這個發價書那事後工合呢的這個部分呢繼續來這個談判有一個彈性嘛那所以本席要請教喔\n\n23\n00:08:24,873 --> 00:08:44,663\n那如果會影響到談判的這個彈性那會衍生國外承包商他的這個意願會低迷那等於是不利我們整個國防工業的一個計算所以在這一點的部分本席要請國防部跟經濟部今天又來嘛那經濟部來請談判署林署長好\n\n24\n00:08:50,950 --> 00:09:12,884\n那麼經濟部也在現場本席非常希望國防部跟經濟部要密切合作一定要務必要密切合作因為我們國內的國防工業必須要由政府來協助他們而且希望能夠計準那麼讓跟他們跟世界接軌這就是我們的目標嘛對不對所以呢部長本席要請教\n\n25\n00:09:13,644 --> 00:09:41,719\n本黨所提出的國防產業發展條例第十條條文修正草案是針對於主管機關以及經濟部應該要鼓勵外國的廠商跟合格的廠商進行產業合作跟相互投資相互投資所以我們增訂了並落實技術移轉的這個規範來提升我們的國防資儲改善產業環境以利我們跟世界接軌你同不同意本黨所提出的這個方案\n\n26\n00:09:42,299 --> 00:10:02,294\n這當然同意啦,這只要對我們國防制度有幫助嘛像剛剛委員所關切的,一定要經過哪一個單位國家但我要跟委員報告,我們有些這個不管是發展或軍過各方面都跟很多地方同步在做,不能夠只有一個地方對,當然,當然,廣泛性的只要對我們將來有幫助的,我們都樂見福祉國內的國防產業\n\n27\n00:10:08,699 --> 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跟委员报告教育部在这个这个修学弹性措施的有三个基本的原则第一个就是说一定要确保学生他的一个自主的意愿\n97529\t106895\t那第二個在不影響他的專業能力的一個養成專業能力的養成非常重要因為3加1縮短的時間怎麼就補足會用3加1就是說也不影響他整個畢業的要求的相關的學分的條件畢業要求當然不會影響只是說在學習歷程當中要怎麼樣能夠補足這一點很重要\n124187\t142800\t是那跟委員報告那因為我們希望是能夠大概能夠他因為有一年的一個服役所以要能夠在三加一就是原來我們希望大學四年畢業的這樣的期限內可以完成所以跟委員報告就是說那他倒是必須要在其他的這個三年當中他譬如說立東原來在學期當中他四年收為三年嘛要怎麼去補\n144622\t167144\t對,如果他有這樣意願,有這個可能性,我們必須要提供這樣的一個彈性措施所以我們會在學期間,他原來各校可能有限制學位分的休息的學位分數我們會希望他給他增加,針對有申請這個專案的學位分數另外在這,暑期的暑休,還有像跨校的選休這個本席剛剛已經告訴你了,就是在你暑假寒假嘛那現在申請的人數有提高嗎?\n167925\t196731\t是跟委員報告大概因為是從這個學年開始有學生陸續要來申請那目前我們收到各校已經到目前為止都是我們的大概到12月5號的資料為止已經有七個學校總共有46名學生來向學校跟你們預估的人數相符合嗎這個預估我們不敢因為是尊重學校的一個學生的自由的意願所以我們比較難去預估說所以目前46位你滿意嗎\n199100\t212969\t針對這個政策當然我們還是配合國防政策希望持續來透過學校來跟學生來宣導好那我們再請部長好嗎國防部長謝謝邱部長請教育部你稍等謝謝我們一起來討論部長因為教育部現在說是我們這邊的需求那現在的這個人數你滿意嗎\n224315\t240784\t我沒有什麼滿意不滿意,我們當初訂這個義務要服的話,我們只要求這一年是連著服役,沒有服了一半,寒假來一個階段,暑假來一個階段,其他的配套的話,因為教育部他有他的做法,那你有沒有人數的KPI?\n242335\t259204\t有沒有人數你的希望?有沒有?我沒有期望這樣,三加一個部長沒有期望喔?我沒有,我只要能夠如期的按照我們推動一年期一期來服役當然有一個政策,我們當然有一個目標嘛那現在教育部在這邊是46名那你們國務部的目標,認為這樣夠嗎?沒有,我們沒有設定這個目標嘛來請說,請說\n270814\t291030\t來 請單位主管來說明一下 謝謝委員跟委員報告因為這個是整個疫情調整的一個配套我們是提供那個有需要的一個在學藝男的學生他一個多元的選項只可以給他一個管道跟一個選項依他個人的意願跟他的能力來提出需求所以並不是以他的數目的多寡來作為他那個KPI的指標\n291650\t318605\t就是給他提高一個管道提高一個管道大家聽到了所以不用壓力要好好努力去做就對了那接下來部長因為單位需求的人是在您這邊來訓練但是教育部在這邊也就是大專院校有七個學校願意要努力去辦但是也有學校拒絕嘛教育部是不是也有學校跟你們說我沒辦法配合\n319145\t339854\t不會 跟委員報告 因為我們是因為從這個學期開始才開始因為有民國94年次的學生所以現在是有七所學校要辦目前已經有了七所學校46個學生 那陸續還會有陸續七所學校 目前我們也希望政府既然既定政策 那就是要去落實\n341855\t360535\t如果人家願意要辦你們不管在經費或者是在需要協助的時候就要全力以赴才能夠達成成功嘛好不好這個要努力喔好不好那你們到一個階段請把數字給我有幾家學校願意持續再辦那人數到底多少你在書院資料給本席好嗎你請回座部長\n362037\t386814\t本校請教我們的一呼一啟從現在的四個月恢復到一年那麼我們規劃有五個階段的訓練包括陸武的基礎訓練駐地訓練等等那最迷人的就是說在他們訓練的當中步槍兵他實際的射擊數不得低於800發還有就是說他期望能夠有高階的就操作這個標槍的飛彈\n392257\t411657\t還有這個刺針飛彈等等高階的專長武器的訓練那所以這個大家就非常期待那所以請教部長我們現在符合訓練的基地夠不夠訓練的這個我們目前大概要有服一年的會有9000多人嗎我們統計大概9127人那麼\n416201\t425087\t每一年一定會再增加會再增加在這樣的情況之下本席要請教部長我們訓練的基地現在到底夠還是不夠來請教\n427120\t445991\t訓練基地是因為它原本就有新訓任務有幾個旅長期以來都是這幾個後來為了這一回一年一起增加涉及的數量也要增加開闢或者去找有些靶場可以在那邊實施訓練的我們普遍的來運用現在準備好了嗎\n446971\t465942\t我們都是同步在做的,去年宣布以後一年多前就編組了專案小組,針對住用還有訓場,通通在同步的所以換句話說,我們這九千多個一年期的藝南,他的訓練場所是準備好了?我可以這麼解讀嗎?準備好,準備有問題\n468543\t485437\t所以本席要再請教我們的軍事投資案的計畫因為我們希望計轉能夠讓我國的國防產業它能夠跟世界來接軌這個是我非常支持的一點所以本席要請教\n486838\t504032\t我們跟經濟部跟外商的這個簽託工業合作協議書呢那這個要先簽這個發價書那事後工合呢的這個部分呢繼續來這個談判有一個彈性嘛那所以本席要請教喔\n504873\t524663\t那如果會影響到談判的這個彈性那會衍生國外承包商他的這個意願會低迷那等於是不利我們整個國防工業的一個計算所以在這一點的部分本席要請國防部跟經濟部今天又來嘛那經濟部來請談判署林署長好\n530950\t552884\t那麼經濟部也在現場本席非常希望國防部跟經濟部要密切合作一定要務必要密切合作因為我們國內的國防工業必須要由政府來協助他們而且希望能夠計準那麼讓跟他們跟世界接軌這就是我們的目標嘛對不對所以呢部長本席要請教\n553644\t581719\t本黨所提出的國防產業發展條例第十條條文修正草案是針對於主管機關以及經濟部應該要鼓勵外國的廠商跟合格的廠商進行產業合作跟相互投資相互投資所以我們增訂了並落實技術移轉的這個規範來提升我們的國防資儲改善產業環境以利我們跟世界接軌你同不同意本黨所提出的這個方案\n582299\t602294\t這當然同意啦,這只要對我們國防制度有幫助嘛像剛剛委員所關切的,一定要經過哪一個單位國家但我要跟委員報告,我們有些這個不管是發展或軍過各方面都跟很多地方同步在做,不能夠只有一個地方對,當然,當然,廣泛性的只要對我們將來有幫助的,我們都樂見福祉國內的國防產業\n608699\t610881\t跟經濟部現在也在密切合作當中我今天很高興聽到部長經濟部也在這邊我們必須要合作來扶植國內的我們的國防工業產業好不好謝謝 謝謝 加油\n","txt":"謝謝主席 本席想邀請教育部先讓部長休息一下教育部那個教育部是梁副市長委員好\n教育部 國防部針對151拋出了3加1的方案那麼同時也希望大學生在三年內要完成大學學業然後用一年的時間來服役那教育部的嚴寧提供了經費引導大學來協助學生的這個完成藝南的這個專案服役那由醫院申請的藝南呢 需要在開學前\n開始的時候2月份或者在9月份向戶籍地公所來申請那在這個學期當中也要陸續的來完成入伍前的前置作業對不對是所以在這樣的情況之下我們的學期結束的暑假或者是寒假露營來服役完成了服役之後來學校協助\n复学的这个辅导所以本席在这边请教教育部目前申请的人数有提高吗你要怎么样去确保不会造成学生在学习上的一个冲击那么你是否有持续的来掌控各校的办理情况请做说明是 跟委员报告教育部在这个这个修学弹性措施的有三个基本的原则第一个就是说一定要确保学生他的一个自主的意愿\n那第二個在不影響他的專業能力的一個養成專業能力的養成非常重要因為3加1縮短的時間怎麼就補足會用3加1就是說也不影響他整個畢業的要求的相關的學分的條件畢業要求當然不會影響只是說在學習歷程當中要怎麼樣能夠補足這一點很重要\n是那跟委員報告那因為我們希望是能夠大概能夠他因為有一年的一個服役所以要能夠在三加一就是原來我們希望大學四年畢業的這樣的期限內可以完成所以跟委員報告就是說那他倒是必須要在其他的這個三年當中他譬如說立東原來在學期當中他四年收為三年嘛要怎麼去補\n對,如果他有這樣意願,有這個可能性,我們必須要提供這樣的一個彈性措施所以我們會在學期間,他原來各校可能有限制學位分的休息的學位分數我們會希望他給他增加,針對有申請這個專案的學位分數另外在這,暑期的暑休,還有像跨校的選休這個本席剛剛已經告訴你了,就是在你暑假寒假嘛那現在申請的人數有提高嗎?\n是跟委員報告大概因為是從這個學年開始有學生陸續要來申請那目前我們收到各校已經到目前為止都是我們的大概到12月5號的資料為止已經有七個學校總共有46名學生來向學校跟你們預估的人數相符合嗎這個預估我們不敢因為是尊重學校的一個學生的自由的意願所以我們比較難去預估說所以目前46位你滿意嗎\n針對這個政策當然我們還是配合國防政策希望持續來透過學校來跟學生來宣導好那我們再請部長好嗎國防部長謝謝邱部長請教育部你稍等謝謝我們一起來討論部長因為教育部現在說是我們這邊的需求那現在的這個人數你滿意嗎\n我沒有什麼滿意不滿意,我們當初訂這個義務要服的話,我們只要求這一年是連著服役,沒有服了一半,寒假來一個階段,暑假來一個階段,其他的配套的話,因為教育部他有他的做法,那你有沒有人數的KPI?\n有沒有人數你的希望?有沒有?我沒有期望這樣,三加一個部長沒有期望喔?我沒有,我只要能夠如期的按照我們推動一年期一期來服役當然有一個政策,我們當然有一個目標嘛那現在教育部在這邊是46名那你們國務部的目標,認為這樣夠嗎?沒有,我們沒有設定這個目標嘛來請說,請說\n來 請單位主管來說明一下 謝謝委員跟委員報告因為這個是整個疫情調整的一個配套我們是提供那個有需要的一個在學藝男的學生他一個多元的選項只可以給他一個管道跟一個選項依他個人的意願跟他的能力來提出需求所以並不是以他的數目的多寡來作為他那個KPI的指標\n就是給他提高一個管道提高一個管道大家聽到了所以不用壓力要好好努力去做就對了那接下來部長因為單位需求的人是在您這邊來訓練但是教育部在這邊也就是大專院校有七個學校願意要努力去辦但是也有學校拒絕嘛教育部是不是也有學校跟你們說我沒辦法配合\n不會 跟委員報告 因為我們是因為從這個學期開始才開始因為有民國94年次的學生所以現在是有七所學校要辦目前已經有了七所學校46個學生 那陸續還會有陸續七所學校 目前我們也希望政府既然既定政策 那就是要去落實\n如果人家願意要辦你們不管在經費或者是在需要協助的時候就要全力以赴才能夠達成成功嘛好不好這個要努力喔好不好那你們到一個階段請把數字給我有幾家學校願意持續再辦那人數到底多少你在書院資料給本席好嗎你請回座部長\n本校請教我們的一呼一啟從現在的四個月恢復到一年那麼我們規劃有五個階段的訓練包括陸武的基礎訓練駐地訓練等等那最迷人的就是說在他們訓練的當中步槍兵他實際的射擊數不得低於800發還有就是說他期望能夠有高階的就操作這個標槍的飛彈\n還有這個刺針飛彈等等高階的專長武器的訓練那所以這個大家就非常期待那所以請教部長我們現在符合訓練的基地夠不夠訓練的這個我們目前大概要有服一年的會有9000多人嗎我們統計大概9127人那麼\n每一年一定會再增加會再增加在這樣的情況之下本席要請教部長我們訓練的基地現在到底夠還是不夠來請教\n訓練基地是因為它原本就有新訓任務有幾個旅長期以來都是這幾個後來為了這一回一年一起增加涉及的數量也要增加開闢或者去找有些靶場可以在那邊實施訓練的我們普遍的來運用現在準備好了嗎\n我們都是同步在做的,去年宣布以後一年多前就編組了專案小組,針對住用還有訓場,通通在同步的所以換句話說,我們這九千多個一年期的藝南,他的訓練場所是準備好了?我可以這麼解讀嗎?準備好,準備有問題\n所以本席要再請教我們的軍事投資案的計畫因為我們希望計轉能夠讓我國的國防產業它能夠跟世界來接軌這個是我非常支持的一點所以本席要請教\n我們跟經濟部跟外商的這個簽託工業合作協議書呢那這個要先簽這個發價書那事後工合呢的這個部分呢繼續來這個談判有一個彈性嘛那所以本席要請教喔\n那如果會影響到談判的這個彈性那會衍生國外承包商他的這個意願會低迷那等於是不利我們整個國防工業的一個計算所以在這一點的部分本席要請國防部跟經濟部今天又來嘛那經濟部來請談判署林署長好\n那麼經濟部也在現場本席非常希望國防部跟經濟部要密切合作一定要務必要密切合作因為我們國內的國防工業必須要由政府來協助他們而且希望能夠計準那麼讓跟他們跟世界接軌這就是我們的目標嘛對不對所以呢部長本席要請教\n本黨所提出的國防產業發展條例第十條條文修正草案是針對於主管機關以及經濟部應該要鼓勵外國的廠商跟合格的廠商進行產業合作跟相互投資相互投資所以我們增訂了並落實技術移轉的這個規範來提升我們的國防資儲改善產業環境以利我們跟世界接軌你同不同意本黨所提出的這個方案\n這當然同意啦,這只要對我們國防制度有幫助嘛像剛剛委員所關切的,一定要經過哪一個單位國家但我要跟委員報告,我們有些這個不管是發展或軍過各方面都跟很多地方同步在做,不能夠只有一個地方對,當然,當然,廣泛性的只要對我們將來有幫助的,我們都樂見福祉國內的國防產業\n跟經濟部現在也在密切合作當中我今天很高興聽到部長經濟部也在這邊我們必須要合作來扶植國內的我們的國防工業產業好不好謝謝 謝謝 加油\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.820 --> 00:14.512\n謝謝主席本席想邀請教育部先讓部長休息一下教育部那個教育部是梁副市長委員好\n\n00:18.939 --> 00:43.397\n教育部國防部針對151拋出了3加1的方案那麼同時也希望大學生在三年內要完成大學學業然後用一年的時間來服役那教育部的嚴寧提供了經費引導大學來協助學生的這個完成藝南的這個專案服役那由醫院申請的藝南呢需要在開學前\n\n00:44.417 --> 01:08.386\n開始的時候2月份或者在9月份向戶籍地公所來申請那在這個學期當中也要陸續的來完成入伍前的前置作業對不對是所以在這樣的情況之下我們的學期結束的暑假或者是寒假露營來服役完成了服役之後來學校協助\n\n01:08.866 --> 01:36.628\n复学的这个辅导所以本席在这边请教教育部目前申请的人数有提高吗你要怎么样去确保不会造成学生在学习上的一个冲击那么你是否有持续的来掌控各校的办理情况请做说明是跟委员报告教育部在这个这个修学弹性措施的有三个基本的原则第一个就是说一定要确保学生他的一个自主的意愿\n\n01:37.529 --> 01:46.895\n那第二個在不影響他的專業能力的一個養成專業能力的養成非常重要因為3加1縮短的時間怎麼就補足會用3加1就是說也不影響他整個畢業的要求的相關的學分的條件畢業要求當然不會影響只是說在學習歷程當中要怎麼樣能夠補足這一點很重要\n\n02:04.187 --> 02:22.800\n是那跟委員報告那因為我們希望是能夠大概能夠他因為有一年的一個服役所以要能夠在三加一就是原來我們希望大學四年畢業的這樣的期限內可以完成所以跟委員報告就是說那他倒是必須要在其他的這個三年當中他譬如說立東原來在學期當中他四年收為三年嘛要怎麼去補\n\n02:24.622 --> 02:47.144\n對,如果他有這樣意願,有這個可能性,我們必須要提供這樣的一個彈性措施所以我們會在學期間,他原來各校可能有限制學位分的休息的學位分數我們會希望他給他增加,針對有申請這個專案的學位分數另外在這,暑期的暑休,還有像跨校的選休這個本席剛剛已經告訴你了,就是在你暑假寒假嘛那現在申請的人數有提高嗎?\n\n02:47.925 --> 03:16.731\n是跟委員報告大概因為是從這個學年開始有學生陸續要來申請那目前我們收到各校已經到目前為止都是我們的大概到12月5號的資料為止已經有七個學校總共有46名學生來向學校跟你們預估的人數相符合嗎這個預估我們不敢因為是尊重學校的一個學生的自由的意願所以我們比較難去預估說所以目前46位你滿意嗎\n\n03:19.100 --> 03:32.969\n針對這個政策當然我們還是配合國防政策希望持續來透過學校來跟學生來宣導好那我們再請部長好嗎國防部長謝謝邱部長請教育部你稍等謝謝我們一起來討論部長因為教育部現在說是我們這邊的需求那現在的這個人數你滿意嗎\n\n03:44.315 --> 04:00.784\n我沒有什麼滿意不滿意,我們當初訂這個義務要服的話,我們只要求這一年是連著服役,沒有服了一半,寒假來一個階段,暑假來一個階段,其他的配套的話,因為教育部他有他的做法,那你有沒有人數的KPI?\n\n04:02.335 --> 04:19.204\n有沒有人數你的希望?有沒有?我沒有期望這樣,三加一個部長沒有期望喔?我沒有,我只要能夠如期的按照我們推動一年期一期來服役當然有一個政策,我們當然有一個目標嘛那現在教育部在這邊是46名那你們國務部的目標,認為這樣夠嗎?沒有,我們沒有設定這個目標嘛來請說,請說\n\n04:30.814 --> 04:51.030\n來請單位主管來說明一下謝謝委員跟委員報告因為這個是整個疫情調整的一個配套我們是提供那個有需要的一個在學藝男的學生他一個多元的選項只可以給他一個管道跟一個選項依他個人的意願跟他的能力來提出需求所以並不是以他的數目的多寡來作為他那個KPI的指標\n\n04:51.650 --> 05:18.605\n就是給他提高一個管道提高一個管道大家聽到了所以不用壓力要好好努力去做就對了那接下來部長因為單位需求的人是在您這邊來訓練但是教育部在這邊也就是大專院校有七個學校願意要努力去辦但是也有學校拒絕嘛教育部是不是也有學校跟你們說我沒辦法配合\n\n05:19.145 --> 05:39.854\n不會跟委員報告因為我們是因為從這個學期開始才開始因為有民國94年次的學生所以現在是有七所學校要辦目前已經有了七所學校46個學生那陸續還會有陸續七所學校目前我們也希望政府既然既定政策那就是要去落實\n\n05:41.855 --> 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