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--> 00:01:09,466\n其實大體上來講就是把實體銀行的業務盡量在網路上能做但是存網營當初他自己自稱他的利基是他有一個生態系可以做一些生態系的一個Synergy的發揮那換句話說一般的銀行如果說要去做存網的業務也是可以的是不是這個意思業務相同只是一個虛擬一個是實體當然實體銀行也有虛擬業務但是實體銀行當然有虛擬業務因為現在是網路的世界對不對\n\n4\n00:01:17,372 --> 00:01:25,987\n那我們再看存網保存網保今年至少今年好像沒有來要申請的\n\n5\n00:01:28,844 --> 00:01:54,168\n因為去年我們說要再觀察因為去年因為防疫險的關係所以市場受到影響我們準備明年一月底會跟大家報告其實你們要推動純網營純網保就是平常講就是用虛擬的網路世界服務我們的客戶對不對這個想法基本上都是對的而且日後的發展傾向也都是如此\n\n6\n00:01:56,039 --> 00:02:04,198\n但是如果說現在因為這三家存網營或者是日後可能會申請的存網保\n\n7\n00:02:05,290 --> 00:02:27,818\n因为现在在推动上有一些困难我们不能讲说它不好因为这个都要时间自古来讲说十年有成二十年有成你不可能要求它短短的两三年就马上就很厉害但是在这个过渡的时期我想请教一下主委我们可不可以也让实体的银行\n\n8\n00:02:29,315 --> 00:02:35,426\n實體的保險公司他們也去做一些網路上的這個銷售跟服務呢\n\n9\n00:02:36,895 --> 00:03:01,736\n這也是報告委員您垂詢的也是我們正在努力尤其是保險網路現在這兩年疫情之後我們開放疫情期間的措施疫情之後全部維持還有今年10月我們開放保險業跟疫業的合作就是您朝您的方向去做的其實我長期在這裡每次常常問你們我是希望網路服務的\n\n10\n00:03:02,777 --> 00:03:25,467\n无远不见网络服务的很好不要出错但是因为现在确实是网络的银行跟网保还在演变退化之中所以我是觉得这个时候实体的银行如果不让他们去做给他们一些限制我觉得有点可惜\n\n11\n00:03:27,212 --> 00:03:49,178\n我完全同意你的意見我可以說明像我今年特別有一個金融科技法規調適平台其實來的意見很多也都是針對銀行他們也就是說到底你們在網路上做這種銀行的業務還有哪些法規的障礙我們要幫大家解決我是覺得我們\n\n12\n00:03:51,104 --> 00:03:56,177\nopenmind是這個不自我設限\n\n13\n00:03:57,540 --> 00:04:26,104\n不管實體銀行網絡銀行不管實體的保險公司跟這個存網保目的都是要服務客戶對不對讓國家在這方面能夠進步對不對尤其台灣是我們資源是有限的我們空間是有限的當然在各種的科技上我們要在世界上要走到前面對不對我們才會有競爭力的所以我是覺得思考一下好不好\n\n14\n00:04:27,684 --> 00:04:54,630\n有麻烦可不可以尽快给我一个我针对我今天的问题给我一个书面的回答我们主要的目的没有说对谁好对谁不好目的就是对人民好对不对我上个礼拜也有请教你关于我们全球台湾在全球前百大银行我们没有对不对\n\n15\n00:04:56,719 --> 00:05:12,606\n這個而且我上個禮拜我也請教你啊因為時間的當時時間關係啊我們的金融保險業在GDP的貢獻這十多年來成長有限對不對啊然後相較於香港\n\n16\n00:05:14,912 --> 00:05:40,066\n保险金融业他在他的GDP都超过20几个百分比新加坡也大概1314个百分比我们台湾大概台湾是几个百分比大概7左右6点6多了看前面希望朝7一步一步来迈进现在就是观念上了观念上我们到底是要监管\n\n17\n00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:54,109\n比較重要呢還是心力比較重要還是這是我要問的重點我們可以監管做得很好心力也可以做得很好有沒有這樣子的可能\n\n18\n00:05:55,202 --> 00:06:11,785\n其實大家對金管會的指導通常說好像我們管的比較多心力比較少那其實我想我們真的也有做一些心力的工作不過如果外界有這種印象我們會加強努力多做一些心力的工作你們金管會都是專業人士了\n\n19\n00:06:12,898 --> 00:06:29,997\n我們的銀行在服務國際相對於香港新加坡我們就針對這兩個國家好了國家地區是我們平常講他們是比較管那個他們可以服務的對象是比較寬的至少在幣值上在貨幣上\n\n20\n00:06:31,238 --> 00:06:49,610\n我們好像處理其他的貨幣的服務相對於對香港對新加坡我們是需要來努力的你同意吧是因為我們不像全球性銀行有全球網路所以大的企業它需要全球的一個服務的話我們的銀行是比較沒有占到便宜\n\n21\n00:06:50,510 --> 00:07:11,771\n還有一樣是我們的觀念加上我們的人才你要服務國際的話你的英語的能力要強像香港很多人都從小受英文教育新加坡基本上他的溝通的語言就是英文\n\n22\n00:07:12,577 --> 00:07:33,886\n所以在这方面曾经在这个蔡英文总统上来以后她要开放有一些外国就是外籍人士可以来台湾在金融就业其实这个观点是对的我也很支持当时我也没有反对请问我们这个政策落实的情况怎么样\n\n23\n00:07:34,656 --> 00:07:51,747\n有這個國發會有一個金卡的一個制度這其中有很多也是金融業好久沒有聽到金卡的業績報告我覺得在金融業這一方面真的需要加強我剛才講我們的銀行保險\n\n24\n00:07:56,550 --> 00:08:24,504\n它占GDP现在是66.5上下了在那边摇摆不是摇摆在那边在那边pending如果我们可以增加到10我们一个GDP是多少钱我们去年我们22兆一个GDP就是2点就增加很多我们如果增加5个GDP就是增加1兆多对不对\n\n25\n00:08:25,151 --> 00:08:35,751\n可以創造多少的就業可以讓整個國民的GDP提升多少其實你們金管會這一點我是覺得蠻重要的\n\n26\n00:08:36,820 --> 00:09:03,074\n不要把自己小看上個禮拜跟今天我同樣針對這個問題我們只要在GDP上的產值增加1%你就知道對台灣的貢獻有多大所以我對我們金管會同仁的專業我都非常的肯定剩下就是你們要去遊說我們的政府\n\n27\n00:09:04,344 --> 00:09:21,664\n這在政策方面如何要把它想得宏觀一點想得前衛一點在人才的落實方面像金卡當時蔡總統剛上來的時候金卡我是覺得是對的但是這幾年聽到好像嬉笑\n\n28\n00:09:22,887 --> 00:09:49,350\n绩效实在是有限我们光看这些数字数字就可以解释很多我们金融就是银行加保险主要是这样还有证券这方面我们的成长实在是有限我讲这15年这15年我是觉得在你的任期我希望你以后还可以继续再做个4年再做个8年\n\n29\n00:09:49,926 --> 00:09:52,567\n還有虛擬貨幣的事今天很多委員都提到了\n\n30\n00:10:12,391 --> 00:10:24,639\n網路的世界無遠弗屆你我的年齡不是在網路發達的時候的成長可是現在的年輕人都是在網路時代這樣子來成長的\n\n31\n00:10:25,765 --> 00:10:42,512\n虚拟货币当然我们着重说不要去洗钱可是它还有其他这是坏处好处也有很多而且未来的世界毕竟会扮演一个重要的角色对不对所以我是觉得\n\n32\n00:10:43,967 --> 00:11:03,480\n往前看该制定的法令就要去制定该去合作的东西就要去合作像美国跟日本的他们虚拟货币DTF都在设计都要准备通过了这个同时台湾其实不要只怕那个坏的\n\n33\n00:11:05,202 --> 00:11:16,250\n就這監理的適度放寬一點點也許那個產業他就有明天他有未來對人民是方便的是還不是\n\n34\n00:11:17,076 --> 00:11:37,794\n委員您的這番指導跟期許我們會引為我們將來努力的方向現在開始努力的方向我今天跟你們提了那個主席再給我30秒今天提了存網營還有存網保這個跟實體要去思考一下\n\n35\n00:11:39,175 --> 00:11:54,783\n不要固步自封我們銀行的我們金融業的GDP日後要如何成長這個要去思考虛擬貨幣的未來是什麼這個要去思考這幾點我們會好好去努力去推動\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n89\t28425\t先生大家早安 主席幫我請一下黃主委好 請黃主委上台備選是 蔣委長這個 主委長齁我們這個主席安排的今天的庭務我想在這個會期快結束的時候來檢討一下 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给他们一些限制我觉得有点可惜\n207212\t229178\t我完全同意你的意見我可以說明像我今年特別有一個金融科技法規調適平台其實來的意見很多也都是針對銀行他們也就是說到底你們在網路上做這種銀行的業務還有哪些法規的障礙我們要幫大家解決我是覺得我們\n231104\t236177\topen mind 是這個不自我設限\n237540\t266104\t不管實體銀行網絡銀行不管實體的保險公司跟這個存網保目的都是要服務客戶對不對讓國家在這方面能夠進步對不對尤其台灣是我們資源是有限的我們空間是有限的當然在各種的科技上我們要在世界上要走到前面對不對我們才會有競爭力的所以我是覺得思考一下好不好\n267684\t294630\t有麻烦可不可以尽快给我一个我针对我今天的问题给我一个书面的回答我们主要的目的没有说对谁好对谁不好目的就是对人民好对不对我上个礼拜也有请教你关于我们全球台湾在全球前百大银行我们没有对不对\n296719\t312606\t這個而且我上個禮拜我也請教你啊因為時間的當時時間關係啊我們的金融保險業在GDP的貢獻這十多年來成長有限對不對啊然後相較於香港\n314912\t340066\t保险金融业他在他的GDP都超过20几个百分比新加坡也大概13 14个百分比我们台湾大概台湾是几个百分比大概7左右6点6多了看前面希望朝7一步一步来迈进现在就是观念上了观念上我们到底是要监管\n341260\t354109\t比較重要呢還是心力比較重要還是這是我要問的重點我們可以監管做得很好心力也可以做得很好有沒有這樣子的可能\n355202\t371785\t其實大家對金管會的指導通常說好像我們管的比較多心力比較少那其實我想我們真的也有做一些心力的工作不過如果外界有這種印象我們會加強努力多做一些心力的工作你們金管會都是專業人士了\n372898\t389997\t我們的銀行在服務國際相對於香港新加坡我們就針對這兩個國家好了國家地區是我們平常講他們是比較管那個他們可以服務的對象是比較寬的至少在幣值上在貨幣上\n391238\t409610\t我們好像處理其他的貨幣的服務相對於對香港對新加坡我們是需要來努力的你同意吧是因為我們不像全球性銀行有全球網路所以大的企業它需要全球的一個服務的話我們的銀行是比較沒有占到便宜\n410510\t431771\t還有一樣是我們的觀念加上我們的人才你要服務國際的話你的英語的能力要強像香港很多人都從小受英文教育新加坡基本上他的溝通的語言就是英文\n432577\t453886\t所以在这方面曾经在这个蔡英文总统上来以后她要开放有一些外国就是外籍人士可以来台湾在金融就业其实这个观点是对的我也很支持当时我也没有反对请问我们这个政策落实的情况怎么样\n454656\t471747\t有這個國發會有一個金卡的一個制度這其中有很多也是金融業好久沒有聽到金卡的業績報告我覺得在金融業這一方面真的需要加強我剛才講我們的銀行保險\n476550\t504504\t它占GDP现在是6 6.5上下了在那边摇摆不是摇摆在那边在那边pending如果我们可以增加到10我们一个GDP是多少钱我们去年我们22兆一个GDP就是2点就增加很多我们如果增加5个GDP就是增加1兆多对不对\n505151\t515751\t可以創造多少的就業可以讓整個國民的GDP提升多少其實你們金管會這一點我是覺得蠻重要的\n516820\t543074\t不要把自己小看上個禮拜跟今天我同樣針對這個問題我們只要在GDP上的產值增加1%你就知道對台灣的貢獻有多大所以我對我們金管會同仁的專業我都非常的肯定剩下就是你們要去遊說我們的政府\n544344\t561664\t這在政策方面如何要把它想得宏觀一點想得前衛一點在人才的落實方面像金卡當時蔡總統剛上來的時候金卡我是覺得是對的但是這幾年聽到好像嬉笑\n562887\t589350\t绩效实在是有限我们光看这些数字数字就可以解释很多我们金融就是银行加保险主要是这样还有证券这方面我们的成长实在是有限我讲这15年这15年我是觉得在你的任期我希望你以后还可以继续再做个4年再做个8年\n589926\t592567\t還有虛擬貨幣的事 今天很多委員都提到了\n612391\t624639\t網路的世界無遠弗屆你我的年齡不是在網路發達的時候的成長可是現在的年輕人都是在網路時代這樣子來成長的\n625765\t642512\t虚拟货币当然我们着重说不要去洗钱可是它还有其他这是坏处好处也有很多而且未来的世界毕竟会扮演一个重要的角色对不对所以我是觉得\n643967\t663480\t往前看该制定的法令就要去制定该去合作的东西就要去合作像美国跟日本的他们虚拟货币DTF都在设计都要准备通过了这个同时台湾其实不要只怕那个坏的\n665202\t676250\t就這監理的適度放寬一點點也許那個產業他就有明天他有未來對人民是方便的是還不是\n677076\t697794\t委員您的這番指導跟期許我們會引為我們將來努力的方向現在開始努力的方向我今天跟你們提了那個主席再給我30秒今天提了存網營還有存網保這個跟實體要去思考一下\n699175\t714783\t不要固步自封我們銀行的我們金融業的GDP日後要如何成長這個要去思考虛擬貨幣的未來是什麼這個要去思考這幾點我們會好好去努力去推動\n","txt":"先生大家早安 主席幫我請一下黃主委好 請黃主委上台備選是 蔣委長這個 主委長齁我們這個主席安排的今天的庭務我想在這個會期快結束的時候來檢討一下 蠻好的齁請問我們現在的純網營啊這三家目前都是很認真的在努力要增資對不對\n那我想请教一下存网银可以做的业务跟我们一般实体银行可以做的业务有什么样的很明确的存网银可以做一般银行不可以做的\n其實大體上來講就是把實體銀行的業務盡量在網路上能做但是存網營當初他自己自稱他的利基是他有一個生態系可以做一些生態系的一個Synergy的發揮那換句話說一般的銀行如果說要去做存網的業務也是可以的是不是這個意思業務相同只是一個虛擬一個是實體當然實體銀行也有虛擬業務但是實體銀行當然有虛擬業務因為現在是網路的世界對不對\n那我們再看存網保存網保今年至少今年好像沒有來要申請的\n因為去年我們說要再觀察因為去年因為防疫險的關係所以市場受到影響我們準備明年一月底會跟大家報告其實你們要推動純網營純網保就是平常講就是用虛擬的網路世界服務我們的客戶對不對這個想法基本上都是對的而且日後的發展傾向也都是如此\n但是如果說現在因為這三家存網營或者是日後可能會申請的存網保\n因为现在在推动上有一些困难我们不能讲说它不好因为这个都要时间自古来讲说十年有成二十年有成你不可能要求它短短的两三年就马上就很厉害但是在这个过渡的时期我想请教一下主委我们可不可以也让实体的银行\n實體的保險公司他們也去做一些網路上的這個銷售跟服務呢\n這也是報告委員您垂詢的也是我們正在努力尤其是保險網路現在這兩年疫情之後我們開放疫情期間的措施疫情之後全部維持還有今年10月我們開放保險業跟疫業的合作就是您朝您的方向去做的其實我長期在這裡每次常常問你們我是希望網路服務的\n无远不见 网络服务的很好 不要出错但是因为现在确实是网络的银行跟网保还在演变 退化之中所以我是觉得这个时候实体的银行如果不让他们去做 给他们一些限制我觉得有点可惜\n我完全同意你的意見我可以說明像我今年特別有一個金融科技法規調適平台其實來的意見很多也都是針對銀行他們也就是說到底你們在網路上做這種銀行的業務還有哪些法規的障礙我們要幫大家解決我是覺得我們\nopen mind 是這個不自我設限\n不管實體銀行網絡銀行不管實體的保險公司跟這個存網保目的都是要服務客戶對不對讓國家在這方面能夠進步對不對尤其台灣是我們資源是有限的我們空間是有限的當然在各種的科技上我們要在世界上要走到前面對不對我們才會有競爭力的所以我是覺得思考一下好不好\n有麻烦可不可以尽快给我一个我针对我今天的问题给我一个书面的回答我们主要的目的没有说对谁好对谁不好目的就是对人民好对不对我上个礼拜也有请教你关于我们全球台湾在全球前百大银行我们没有对不对\n這個而且我上個禮拜我也請教你啊因為時間的當時時間關係啊我們的金融保險業在GDP的貢獻這十多年來成長有限對不對啊然後相較於香港\n保险金融业他在他的GDP都超过20几个百分比新加坡也大概13 14个百分比我们台湾大概台湾是几个百分比大概7左右6点6多了看前面希望朝7一步一步来迈进现在就是观念上了观念上我们到底是要监管\n比較重要呢還是心力比較重要還是這是我要問的重點我們可以監管做得很好心力也可以做得很好有沒有這樣子的可能\n其實大家對金管會的指導通常說好像我們管的比較多心力比較少那其實我想我們真的也有做一些心力的工作不過如果外界有這種印象我們會加強努力多做一些心力的工作你們金管會都是專業人士了\n我們的銀行在服務國際相對於香港新加坡我們就針對這兩個國家好了國家地區是我們平常講他們是比較管那個他們可以服務的對象是比較寬的至少在幣值上在貨幣上\n我們好像處理其他的貨幣的服務相對於對香港對新加坡我們是需要來努力的你同意吧是因為我們不像全球性銀行有全球網路所以大的企業它需要全球的一個服務的話我們的銀行是比較沒有占到便宜\n還有一樣是我們的觀念加上我們的人才你要服務國際的話你的英語的能力要強像香港很多人都從小受英文教育新加坡基本上他的溝通的語言就是英文\n所以在这方面曾经在这个蔡英文总统上来以后她要开放有一些外国就是外籍人士可以来台湾在金融就业其实这个观点是对的我也很支持当时我也没有反对请问我们这个政策落实的情况怎么样\n有這個國發會有一個金卡的一個制度這其中有很多也是金融業好久沒有聽到金卡的業績報告我覺得在金融業這一方面真的需要加強我剛才講我們的銀行保險\n它占GDP现在是6 6.5上下了在那边摇摆不是摇摆在那边在那边pending如果我们可以增加到10我们一个GDP是多少钱我们去年我们22兆一个GDP就是2点就增加很多我们如果增加5个GDP就是增加1兆多对不对\n可以創造多少的就業可以讓整個國民的GDP提升多少其實你們金管會這一點我是覺得蠻重要的\n不要把自己小看上個禮拜跟今天我同樣針對這個問題我們只要在GDP上的產值增加1%你就知道對台灣的貢獻有多大所以我對我們金管會同仁的專業我都非常的肯定剩下就是你們要去遊說我們的政府\n這在政策方面如何要把它想得宏觀一點想得前衛一點在人才的落實方面像金卡當時蔡總統剛上來的時候金卡我是覺得是對的但是這幾年聽到好像嬉笑\n绩效实在是有限我们光看这些数字数字就可以解释很多我们金融就是银行加保险主要是这样还有证券这方面我们的成长实在是有限我讲这15年这15年我是觉得在你的任期我希望你以后还可以继续再做个4年再做个8年\n還有虛擬貨幣的事 今天很多委員都提到了\n網路的世界無遠弗屆你我的年齡不是在網路發達的時候的成長可是現在的年輕人都是在網路時代這樣子來成長的\n虚拟货币当然我们着重说不要去洗钱可是它还有其他这是坏处好处也有很多而且未来的世界毕竟会扮演一个重要的角色对不对所以我是觉得\n往前看该制定的法令就要去制定该去合作的东西就要去合作像美国跟日本的他们虚拟货币DTF都在设计都要准备通过了这个同时台湾其实不要只怕那个坏的\n就這監理的適度放寬一點點也許那個產業他就有明天他有未來對人民是方便的是還不是\n委員您的這番指導跟期許我們會引為我們將來努力的方向現在開始努力的方向我今天跟你們提了那個主席再給我30秒今天提了存網營還有存網保這個跟實體要去思考一下\n不要固步自封我們銀行的我們金融業的GDP日後要如何成長這個要去思考虛擬貨幣的未來是什麼這個要去思考這幾點我們會好好去努力去推動\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:28.425\n先生大家早安主席幫我請一下黃主委好請黃主委上台備選是蔣委長這個主委長齁我們這個主席安排的今天的庭務我想在這個會期快結束的時候來檢討一下蠻好的齁請問我們現在的純網營啊這三家目前都是很認真的在努力要增資對不對\n\n00:31.433 --> 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6.5上下了在那边摇摆不是摇摆在那边在那边pending如果我们可以增加到10我们一个GDP是多少钱我们去年我们22兆一个GDP就是2点就增加很多我们如果增加5个GDP就是增加1兆多对不对"},{"start":505.151,"end":515.751,"text":"可以創造多少的就業可以讓整個國民的GDP提升多少其實你們金管會這一點我是覺得蠻重要的"},{"start":516.82,"end":543.074,"text":"不要把自己小看上個禮拜跟今天我同樣針對這個問題我們只要在GDP上的產值增加1%你就知道對台灣的貢獻有多大所以我對我們金管會同仁的專業我都非常的肯定剩下就是你們要去遊說我們的政府"},{"start":544.344,"end":561.664,"text":"這在政策方面如何要把它想得宏觀一點想得前衛一點在人才的落實方面像金卡當時蔡總統剛上來的時候金卡我是覺得是對的但是這幾年聽到好像嬉笑"},{"start":562.887,"end":589.35,"text":"绩效实在是有限我们光看这些数字数字就可以解释很多我们金融就是银行加保险主要是这样还有证券这方面我们的成长实在是有限我讲这15年这15年我是觉得在你的任期我希望你以后还可以继续再做个4年再做个8年"},{"start":589.926,"end":592.567,"text":"還有虛擬貨幣的事 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