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00:02:46,542\n好那沒關係部長我跟您報告第一個是彈性工時佔65%的爸爸媽媽最在意有沒有辦法有彈性工時第二個如同您說的企業有沒有機會設置零拖或者是幼兒園第三個是居家上班也就是在疫情之後的遠距工作的可能性這三個比例是年輕世代的爸媽最在意的事情可是我想要請部長看一下這個投影片的上端\n\n8\n00:02:47,122 --> 00:03:06,017\n其實大部分的父親跟母親都有想要工作的企圖心你看喔在兼職工作或是全職工作的比例都很高對嗎全職月的比例其實不高也就是說大家這個世代年輕的爸媽他們對於自己在職場上是有些想像的可是勞動部有沒有機會提供這樣的職場環境給予勞工們部長您覺得呢\n\n9\n00:03:11,554 --> 00:03:28,739\n對,就是說可能在,因為可能有些職場是可以提供彈性,有些職場可能比較不容易,那我覺得我們應該先從可以提供彈性這個公使的這些職場鼓勵雇主能夠來\n\n10\n00:03:31,158 --> 00:03:32,559\n及第五十八條條文修正草案。」案。\n\n11\n00:03:47,232 --> 00:04:14,027\n而勞動部這個生活平衡獎裡面有一個彈性工作獎也就是可能是彈性工時或者是彈性工作地點也就是說勞動部其實可能在幾年前就有意識到這個事情是重要的或者是友善家庭的部分勞動部在這個獎項裡面有一個單獨的項目叫做友善家庭可是我們來看在相關勞動部的這些獎勵鼓勵措施當中對於企業端的實質上更積極的鼓勵或者是互動溝通過往以\n\n12\n00:04:14,927 --> 00:04:43,606\n一往以來都是比較被動的他就是一個被動接受企業的報名可是報名之後他們得到的可能就是一個獎牌我們看了然後相關一萬塊的相關獎品也不是獎金我們想要問一下如果勞動部自己都已經辦了相關的獎項跟比賽而且每一年都做不是只有做一兩年那勞動部其實在這件事情上是有一些想法跟態度的可是可不可以更加的積極去服務應更多年輕世代父母親的需求部長您自己的觀點怎麼看這件事情\n\n13\n00:04:44,315 --> 00:05:00,026\n其實我們辦這個獎項是讓這些這個算是一個幸福的企業他們的一些友善勞工的作為能夠讓更多的企業來學習然後他們做一個標竿\n\n14\n00:05:02,034 --> 00:05:17,220\n所以當然獎牌獎金那是那是個honor但是沒有辦法說給他們很多的一個獎金那如果我們不談獎牌獎金部長您覺得在勞動部的角度還可以做更多什麼事情我先提供一個數字這也是勞動部給這個雜誌說的勞動部統計臺灣受僱者在2020年平均年總工時為2008個小時在39個主要國家中排名第六\n\n15\n00:05:25,823 --> 00:05:45,133\n甚至我們高於南韓的1904個小時高於日本的1622個小時也就是說勞動部其實你們已經知道要做相關的事情不管是透過鼓勵措施或是相關企業對話可是可不可以更積極的回應更多年輕世代父母親的需求那我再跟部長報告最後一個議題\n\n16\n00:05:45,993 --> 00:06:03,143\n其實今年諾貝爾獎這個得主他也提到了女性並沒有真的想要離開職場而是整個職場的環境的不友善讓年輕的女性他們必須要在而且部長您在裡面受訪也提到臺灣有一個很大量的離職潮是在30歲以後部長你一定知道原因嗎\n\n17\n00:06:03,923 --> 00:06:19,865\n對三十歲以後就是要開始步入家庭照顧小孩可是如果都落在女性身上其實台灣的高學歷女性的比例跟他們在求學階段能力表現並不輸於男性那部長您身為女性的部長你自己怎麼看待這件事情可不可以有更積極的在勞動部內\n\n18\n00:06:20,947 --> 00:06:22,888\n三、委員劉世芳等16人擬具«勞工退休金條例第二十五條之一\n\n19\n00:06:39,238 --> 00:07:05,368\n謝謝委員我想這個部分的確勞動部還要再更有積極的作為那這邊我也會要求相關的業務單位一起來討論因為這個可能牽涉到跨單位那我們會來怎麼樣來讓企業能夠發展更多有效的措施然後政府又有一些鼓勵、獎勵來讓他們願意來做那這個部分我想我會來責成\n\n20\n00:07:06,508 --> 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«勞工退休金條例第二十五條之一\n399238\t425368\t謝謝委員我想這個部分的確勞動部還要再更有積極的作為那這邊我也會要求相關的業務單位一起來討論因為這個可能牽涉到跨單位那我們會來怎麼樣來讓企業能夠發展更多有效的措施然後政府又有一些鼓勵、獎勵來讓他們願意來做那這個部分我想我會來責成\n426508\t428089\t三條及第五十八條條文修正草案：立法院第16次全體委員會議\n","txt":"請部長部長您好我們時間有限我想問一下部長您有出現在最新的這一本所有台灣的爸爸媽媽幾乎都會看的雜誌不知道您自己有沒有印象\n三、委員吳靜雅等16人擬具:「勞工退休金條例第十七條之一\n在日本跟香港跟臺灣卻呈現負成長。關於這個缺工的問題,或者是勞工本身在企業端工作的很多訴求,不知道部長您這邊在接受完這個雜誌的訪問之後,您認為友善家庭職場在勞動部這邊,如果您快速想到您覺得您還能做些什麼事情,協助勞工在勞動現場可以覺得更友善的被對待,然後也願意生養下一代。部長您覺得,從勞動部的角度您覺得可以做哪些事情?\n在職場的能夠兼顧育兒環境部分這個部分還要再加強那我就直接跟部長分享在這個雜誌裡面其實他們在五月份三月份到五月份的時候他們先做了一個調查\n年輕世代的爸爸媽媽對於自己到職場上實現自我的專長實現自我的天分這件事情其實大家對於工作是有些想像跟企圖心的可是一旦把這個企圖心切回到職場現實的時候部長我先考你一下你覺得年輕的爸媽他們在意職場的哪些因素會讓他們更願意留在職場或者是在職場實踐自我當中還願意生育下一代您覺得年輕世代的爸媽在意什麼樣的事情\n大概是在托兒部分。還有呢?還有就是可能希望更有彈性的能夠去兼顧家庭。彈性的兼顧家庭,還有呢?\n好那沒關係部長我跟您報告第一個是彈性工時佔65%的爸爸媽媽最在意有沒有辦法有彈性工時第二個如同您說的企業有沒有機會設置零拖或者是幼兒園第三個是居家上班也就是在疫情之後的遠距工作的可能性這三個比例是年輕世代的爸媽最在意的事情可是我想要請部長看一下這個投影片的上端\n其實大部分的父親跟母親都有想要工作的企圖心你看喔在兼職工作或是全職工作的比例都很高對嗎全職月的比例其實不高也就是說大家這個世代年輕的爸媽他們對於自己在職場上是有些想像的可是勞動部有沒有機會提供這樣的職場環境給予勞工們部長您覺得呢\n對,就是說可能在,因為可能有些職場是可以提供彈性,有些職場可能比較不容易,那我覺得我們應該先從可以提供彈性這個公使的這些職場鼓勵雇主能夠來\n及第五十八條條文修正草案。」案。\n而勞動部這個生活平衡獎裡面有一個彈性工作獎也就是可能是彈性工時或者是彈性工作地點也就是說勞動部其實可能在幾年前就有意識到這個事情是重要的或者是友善家庭的部分勞動部在這個獎項裡面有一個單獨的項目叫做友善家庭可是我們來看在相關勞動部的這些獎勵鼓勵措施當中對於企業端的實質上更積極的鼓勵或者是互動溝通過往以\n一往以來都是比較被動的他就是一個被動接受企業的報名可是報名之後他們得到的可能就是一個獎牌我們看了然後相關一萬塊的相關獎品也不是獎金我們想要問一下如果勞動部自己都已經辦了相關的獎項跟比賽而且每一年都做不是只有做一兩年那勞動部其實在這件事情上是有一些想法跟態度的可是可不可以更加的積極去服務應更多年輕世代父母親的需求部長您自己的觀點怎麼看這件事情\n其實我們辦這個獎項是讓這些這個算是一個幸福的企業他們的一些友善勞工的作為能夠讓更多的企業來學習然後他們做一個標竿\n所以當然獎牌獎金那是那是個honor但是沒有辦法說給他們很多的一個獎金那如果我們不談獎牌獎金部長您覺得在勞動部的角度還可以做更多什麼事情我先提供一個數字這也是勞動部給這個雜誌說的勞動部統計臺灣受僱者在2020年平均年總工時為2008個小時在39個主要國家中排名第六\n甚至我們高於南韓的1904個小時高於日本的1622個小時也就是說勞動部其實你們已經知道要做相關的事情不管是透過鼓勵措施或是相關企業對話可是可不可以更積極的回應更多年輕世代父母親的需求那我再跟部長報告最後一個議題\n其實今年諾貝爾獎這個得主他也提到了女性並沒有真的想要離開職場而是整個職場的環境的不友善讓年輕的女性他們必須要在而且部長您在裡面受訪也提到臺灣有一個很大量的離職潮是在30歲以後部長你一定知道原因嗎\n對三十歲以後就是要開始步入家庭照顧小孩可是如果都落在女性身上其實台灣的高學歷女性的比例跟他們在求學階段能力表現並不輸於男性那部長您身為女性的部長你自己怎麼看待這件事情可不可以有更積極的在勞動部內\n三、委員劉世芳等16人擬具 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02:46.542\n好那沒關係部長我跟您報告第一個是彈性工時佔65%的爸爸媽媽最在意有沒有辦法有彈性工時第二個如同您說的企業有沒有機會設置零拖或者是幼兒園第三個是居家上班也就是在疫情之後的遠距工作的可能性這三個比例是年輕世代的爸媽最在意的事情可是我想要請部長看一下這個投影片的上端\n\n02:47.122 --> 03:06.017\n其實大部分的父親跟母親都有想要工作的企圖心你看喔在兼職工作或是全職工作的比例都很高對嗎全職月的比例其實不高也就是說大家這個世代年輕的爸媽他們對於自己在職場上是有些想像的可是勞動部有沒有機會提供這樣的職場環境給予勞工們部長您覺得呢\n\n03:11.554 --> 03:28.739\n對,就是說可能在,因為可能有些職場是可以提供彈性,有些職場可能比較不容易,那我覺得我們應該先從可以提供彈性這個公使的這些職場鼓勵雇主能夠來\n\n03:31.158 --> 03:32.559\n及第五十八條條文修正草案。」案。\n\n03:47.232 --> 04:14.027\n而勞動部這個生活平衡獎裡面有一個彈性工作獎也就是可能是彈性工時或者是彈性工作地點也就是說勞動部其實可能在幾年前就有意識到這個事情是重要的或者是友善家庭的部分勞動部在這個獎項裡面有一個單獨的項目叫做友善家庭可是我們來看在相關勞動部的這些獎勵鼓勵措施當中對於企業端的實質上更積極的鼓勵或者是互動溝通過往以\n\n04:14.927 --> 04:43.606\n一往以來都是比較被動的他就是一個被動接受企業的報名可是報名之後他們得到的可能就是一個獎牌我們看了然後相關一萬塊的相關獎品也不是獎金我們想要問一下如果勞動部自己都已經辦了相關的獎項跟比賽而且每一年都做不是只有做一兩年那勞動部其實在這件事情上是有一些想法跟態度的可是可不可以更加的積極去服務應更多年輕世代父母親的需求部長您自己的觀點怎麼看這件事情\n\n04:44.315 --> 05:00.026\n其實我們辦這個獎項是讓這些這個算是一個幸福的企業他們的一些友善勞工的作為能夠讓更多的企業來學習然後他們做一個標竿\n\n05:02.034 --> 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