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00:03:01,305\n那造成這樣子的結果有沒有會有任何的懲處的一個機制或者說誰應該要對這件事情來負起責任?主政機關可是現在當初決策的行政院長現在已經貴為總統了誰可以來檢討他?\n\n9\n00:03:14,332 --> 00:03:41,494\n這個應該是在機關這邊檢討政策不會到院長所以說就是時任的內政部長可能要來決定要檢討到哪個單位反正就是基層來背鍋就對了也不是這樣一個數位身分證的一個這個全國性重大的政策推行失敗造成國家的損失結果居然不是由院長等級不是由部長等級的人來承擔責任而是由基層的同仁來\n\n10\n00:03:42,136 --> 00:03:42,616\n委員會主任委員會主任\n\n11\n00:03:57,130 --> 00:04:17,938\n不會一定會有人去對這個部分去做一個交代會有一個課則嗎?那我們工程會當然啦當初因為我們就只是合約的政府採購法的一個算是一個上級的一個機關嘛指導機關那後續我們會追蹤嗎?有關課則的部分還是您可以跟我建議後續應該要跟哪個機關來追蹤?這個部分應該相關部會他們會去檢討您有沒有建議的?\n\n12\n00:04:24,488 --> 00:04:42,723\n我們本來就應該要去檢討這個問題所以後續這個案子有關相關的課則我就是去主委建議我去找內政部這樣子我沒有這樣講在政府的體系他有該負責檢討的單位他會去檢討\n\n13\n00:04:44,124 --> 00:05:11,294\n對阿因為我今天是在質詢主委嘛對不對請教主委那我想確認所以未來可以跟繼續跟主教請跟主委請教後續課則的問題嗎還是要另請其他單位委員要問我也可以也可以嘛我會去了解好然後那就後續再麻煩主委好謝謝主委那另外第二個問題是前一陣子有一個新聞是國手籃球國手的一個保險的問題嘛\n\n14\n00:05:12,776 --> 00:05:35,244\n那就是有國手就是對於國手培訓時候﹑比賽﹑不管是培訓或比賽的時候的保險的制度有一些維持那不曉得我們工程會事後有沒有做一些相關的了解或是單位在執行上面支案來行的地方這個部分我在媒體包括在院會的執行也聽到委員有這樣的執行案\n\n15\n00:05:36,161 --> 00:05:58,011\n那我個人的看法應該這個部分是我覺得是不應該發生這樣不應該發生那我看我聽教育部長也回應委員的執行也會去檢討這個事情是好那我們應該針對採購法的部分他們一定有他們摯愛奶情的地方嘛那後續是不是也可以麻煩我們我們主委這邊麻煩同仁後續有關這個保險的部分來後續追蹤\n\n16\n00:06:02,173 --> 00:06:30,588\n有需要的話我們會來給你協助好那我再後續再請教一下那另外再請教一下因為我們的報告裡面有提到公共工程採購金額申請這個移工的金額嘛有降低嘛對不對那前一陣子也是國內討論度非常高的一個事件就是國內要不要開放印度移工進來國內那可能這個也會牽扯到我們營造的工程包括因為工程這個採購法都有一些相關的\n\n17\n00:06:39,689 --> 00:06:59,685\n主委針對開放移工這一項政策您有怎樣的看法?據我瞭解勞動部增加印度移工這個部分是增加來源國但是數量並沒有限定所以媒體在講說10萬好像不是這個意思\n\n18\n00:07:01,989 --> 00:07:06,372\n總而不變組成方式多加一個國家多加一個來源的地方\n\n19\n00:07:07,438 --> 00:07:31,521\n那麼對於移工這個部分從這個根本上在我工程會的看法就工程這個部分是我們原則上還是以貶勞為主外勞為輔所以我們朝這個方向在努力那主委支不支持就是剛剛您架構下總而不變那增加一個印度也可以進來的這樣子的一個方式\n\n20\n00:07:32,608 --> 00:07:32,948\n主委主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3797\t6704\t好謝謝一樣麻煩幫我要請吳主委請吳主委\n10662\t35500\t謝謝主委這個工程界的兩千倍那今天質詢的第一個問題我想先針對一個採購的爭議事件來請教一下主委在數位身份證推行的時候那當然後來經蘇貞昌院長喊卡之後那數位身份證的政策先暫停那後來廠商有提履歷爭議對不對\n37012\t56327\t就是在去年的新聞有提到5月多的時候那已經在我們工程委員會的條儲的會議要召開那後續的條儲結果不確定就沒有新聞露出了然後想請問一下有關這一次的所有身份證的採購履歷爭議場上酋長的部分有沒有結果出來了\n59079\t84725\t委員提的是律師證就是5加5嘛律師證的那一個對那廠商應該有提一個吳議員的這個爭議嘛對不對去年去年我們同年那個聖書會告訴我在1月今年的1月調解成立那調解的結果\n87352\t112781\t就雙方同意依照他們的條件來進來解決他們的條件怎麼樣把簡單一點政府到最後有沒有內政部有沒有賠款給廠商是跟委員報告廠商本來請求10億多那經過我們調解後他因為有些部分必須在國外去數量必須去匯算所以我們整體調解金額應該是會在2億8以下2億8\n117162\t137635\t那我想請問一下主委那有關這樣子的政府採購的一個缺失我不曉得你認不認同這個缺失兩個字但是這個結果造成了我們政府在推行一項政策沒有成功之外還要賠償給廠商兩億多的一個經費那主委針對這樣子的採購案您個人的看法有沒有什麼值得見到的地方\n139086\t166562\t根據我的了解這個案子是因為這個要實施跟決策過程當中遭遇到民意的一些意見而變更這個做法是這樣的一個結果那當然要檢討的地方就是未來對於任何的政策要在實施之前應該要做好更廣泛的溝通避免在實施過程當中再產生不同的民意的反應\n167382\t181305\t那造成這樣子的結果有沒有會有任何的懲處的一個機制或者說誰應該要對這件事情來負起責任?主政機關可是現在當初決策的行政院長現在已經貴為總統了誰可以來檢討他?\n194332\t221494\t這個應該是在機關這邊檢討政策不會到院長所以說就是時任的內政部長可能要來決定要檢討到哪個單位反正就是基層來背鍋就對了也不是這樣一個數位身分證的一個這個全國性重大的政策推行失敗造成國家的損失結果居然不是由院長等級不是由部長等級的人來承擔責任而是由基層的同仁來\n222136\t222616\t委員會主任委員會主任\n237130\t257938\t不會一定會有人去對這個部分去做一個交代會有一個課則嗎?那我們工程會當然啦當初因為我們就只是合約的政府採購法的一個算是一個上級的一個機關嘛指導機關那後續我們會追蹤嗎?有關課則的部分還是您可以跟我建議後續應該要跟哪個機關來追蹤?這個部分應該相關部會他們會去檢討您有沒有建議的?\n264488\t282723\t我們本來就應該要去檢討這個問題所以後續這個案子有關相關的課則我就是去主委建議我去找內政部這樣子我沒有這樣講在政府的體系他有該負責檢討的單位他會去檢討\n284124\t311294\t對阿因為我今天是在質詢主委嘛對不對請教主委那我想確認所以未來可以跟繼續跟主教請跟主委請教後續課則的問題嗎還是要另請其他單位委員要問我也可以也可以嘛我會去了解好然後那就後續再麻煩主委好謝謝主委那另外第二個問題是前一陣子有一個新聞是國手籃球國手的一個保險的問題嘛\n312776\t335244\t那就是有國手就是對於國手培訓時候﹑比賽﹑不管是培訓或比賽的時候的保險的制度有一些維持那不曉得我們工程會事後有沒有做一些相關的了解或是單位在執行上面支案來行的地方這個部分我在媒體包括在院會的執行也聽到委員有這樣的執行案\n336161\t358011\t那我個人的看法應該這個部分是我覺得是不應該發生這樣不應該發生那我看我聽教育部長也回應委員的執行也會去檢討這個事情是好那我們應該針對採購法的部分他們一定有他們摯愛奶情的地方嘛那後續是不是也可以麻煩我們我們主委這邊麻煩同仁後續有關這個保險的部分來後續追蹤\n362173\t390588\t有需要的話我們會來給你協助好那我再後續再請教一下那另外再請教一下因為我們的報告裡面有提到公共工程採購金額申請這個移工的金額嘛有降低嘛對不對那前一陣子也是國內討論度非常高的一個事件就是國內要不要開放印度移工進來國內那可能這個也會牽扯到我們營造的工程包括因為工程這個採購法都有一些相關的\n399689\t419685\t主委針對開放移工這一項政策您有怎樣的看法?據我瞭解勞動部增加印度移工這個部分是增加來源國但是數量並沒有限定所以媒體在講說10萬好像不是這個意思\n421989\t426372\t總而不變 組成方式多加一個國家 多加一個來源的地方\n427438\t451521\t那麼對於移工這個部分從這個根本上在我工程會的看法就工程這個部分是我們原則上還是以貶勞為主外勞為輔所以我們朝這個方向在努力那主委支不支持就是剛剛您架構下總而不變那增加一個印度也可以進來的這樣子的一個方式\n452608\t452948\t主委主席\n","txt":"好謝謝一樣麻煩幫我要請吳主委請吳主委\n謝謝主委這個工程界的兩千倍那今天質詢的第一個問題我想先針對一個採購的爭議事件來請教一下主委在數位身份證推行的時候那當然後來經蘇貞昌院長喊卡之後那數位身份證的政策先暫停那後來廠商有提履歷爭議對不對\n就是在去年的新聞有提到5月多的時候那已經在我們工程委員會的條儲的會議要召開那後續的條儲結果不確定就沒有新聞露出了然後想請問一下有關這一次的所有身份證的採購履歷爭議場上酋長的部分有沒有結果出來了\n委員提的是律師證就是5加5嘛律師證的那一個對那廠商應該有提一個吳議員的這個爭議嘛對不對去年去年我們同年那個聖書會告訴我在1月今年的1月調解成立那調解的結果\n就雙方同意依照他們的條件來進來解決他們的條件怎麼樣把簡單一點政府到最後有沒有內政部有沒有賠款給廠商是跟委員報告廠商本來請求10億多那經過我們調解後他因為有些部分必須在國外去數量必須去匯算所以我們整體調解金額應該是會在2億8以下2億8\n那我想請問一下主委那有關這樣子的政府採購的一個缺失我不曉得你認不認同這個缺失兩個字但是這個結果造成了我們政府在推行一項政策沒有成功之外還要賠償給廠商兩億多的一個經費那主委針對這樣子的採購案您個人的看法有沒有什麼值得見到的地方\n根據我的了解這個案子是因為這個要實施跟決策過程當中遭遇到民意的一些意見而變更這個做法是這樣的一個結果那當然要檢討的地方就是未來對於任何的政策要在實施之前應該要做好更廣泛的溝通避免在實施過程當中再產生不同的民意的反應\n那造成這樣子的結果有沒有會有任何的懲處的一個機制或者說誰應該要對這件事情來負起責任?主政機關可是現在當初決策的行政院長現在已經貴為總統了誰可以來檢討他?\n這個應該是在機關這邊檢討政策不會到院長所以說就是時任的內政部長可能要來決定要檢討到哪個單位反正就是基層來背鍋就對了也不是這樣一個數位身分證的一個這個全國性重大的政策推行失敗造成國家的損失結果居然不是由院長等級不是由部長等級的人來承擔責任而是由基層的同仁來\n委員會主任委員會主任\n不會一定會有人去對這個部分去做一個交代會有一個課則嗎?那我們工程會當然啦當初因為我們就只是合約的政府採購法的一個算是一個上級的一個機關嘛指導機關那後續我們會追蹤嗎?有關課則的部分還是您可以跟我建議後續應該要跟哪個機關來追蹤?這個部分應該相關部會他們會去檢討您有沒有建議的?\n我們本來就應該要去檢討這個問題所以後續這個案子有關相關的課則我就是去主委建議我去找內政部這樣子我沒有這樣講在政府的體系他有該負責檢討的單位他會去檢討\n對阿因為我今天是在質詢主委嘛對不對請教主委那我想確認所以未來可以跟繼續跟主教請跟主委請教後續課則的問題嗎還是要另請其他單位委員要問我也可以也可以嘛我會去了解好然後那就後續再麻煩主委好謝謝主委那另外第二個問題是前一陣子有一個新聞是國手籃球國手的一個保險的問題嘛\n那就是有國手就是對於國手培訓時候﹑比賽﹑不管是培訓或比賽的時候的保險的制度有一些維持那不曉得我們工程會事後有沒有做一些相關的了解或是單位在執行上面支案來行的地方這個部分我在媒體包括在院會的執行也聽到委員有這樣的執行案\n那我個人的看法應該這個部分是我覺得是不應該發生這樣不應該發生那我看我聽教育部長也回應委員的執行也會去檢討這個事情是好那我們應該針對採購法的部分他們一定有他們摯愛奶情的地方嘛那後續是不是也可以麻煩我們我們主委這邊麻煩同仁後續有關這個保險的部分來後續追蹤\n有需要的話我們會來給你協助好那我再後續再請教一下那另外再請教一下因為我們的報告裡面有提到公共工程採購金額申請這個移工的金額嘛有降低嘛對不對那前一陣子也是國內討論度非常高的一個事件就是國內要不要開放印度移工進來國內那可能這個也會牽扯到我們營造的工程包括因為工程這個採購法都有一些相關的\n主委針對開放移工這一項政策您有怎樣的看法?據我瞭解勞動部增加印度移工這個部分是增加來源國但是數量並沒有限定所以媒體在講說10萬好像不是這個意思\n總而不變 組成方式多加一個國家 多加一個來源的地方\n那麼對於移工這個部分從這個根本上在我工程會的看法就工程這個部分是我們原則上還是以貶勞為主外勞為輔所以我們朝這個方向在努力那主委支不支持就是剛剛您架構下總而不變那增加一個印度也可以進來的這樣子的一個方式\n主委主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.797 --> 00:06.704\n好謝謝一樣麻煩幫我要請吳主委請吳主委\n\n00:10.662 --> 00:35.500\n謝謝主委這個工程界的兩千倍那今天質詢的第一個問題我想先針對一個採購的爭議事件來請教一下主委在數位身份證推行的時候那當然後來經蘇貞昌院長喊卡之後那數位身份證的政策先暫停那後來廠商有提履歷爭議對不對\n\n00:37.012 --> 00:56.327\n就是在去年的新聞有提到5月多的時候那已經在我們工程委員會的條儲的會議要召開那後續的條儲結果不確定就沒有新聞露出了然後想請問一下有關這一次的所有身份證的採購履歷爭議場上酋長的部分有沒有結果出來了\n\n00:59.079 --> 01:24.725\n委員提的是律師證就是5加5嘛律師證的那一個對那廠商應該有提一個吳議員的這個爭議嘛對不對去年去年我們同年那個聖書會告訴我在1月今年的1月調解成立那調解的結果\n\n01:27.352 --> 01:52.781\n就雙方同意依照他們的條件來進來解決他們的條件怎麼樣把簡單一點政府到最後有沒有內政部有沒有賠款給廠商是跟委員報告廠商本來請求10億多那經過我們調解後他因為有些部分必須在國外去數量必須去匯算所以我們整體調解金額應該是會在2億8以下2億8\n\n01:57.162 --> 02:17.635\n那我想請問一下主委那有關這樣子的政府採購的一個缺失我不曉得你認不認同這個缺失兩個字但是這個結果造成了我們政府在推行一項政策沒有成功之外還要賠償給廠商兩億多的一個經費那主委針對這樣子的採購案您個人的看法有沒有什麼值得見到的地方\n\n02:19.086 --> 02:46.562\n根據我的了解這個案子是因為這個要實施跟決策過程當中遭遇到民意的一些意見而變更這個做法是這樣的一個結果那當然要檢討的地方就是未來對於任何的政策要在實施之前應該要做好更廣泛的溝通避免在實施過程當中再產生不同的民意的反應\n\n02:47.382 --> 03:01.305\n那造成這樣子的結果有沒有會有任何的懲處的一個機制或者說誰應該要對這件事情來負起責任?主政機關可是現在當初決策的行政院長現在已經貴為總統了誰可以來檢討他?\n\n03:14.332 --> 03:41.494\n這個應該是在機關這邊檢討政策不會到院長所以說就是時任的內政部長可能要來決定要檢討到哪個單位反正就是基層來背鍋就對了也不是這樣一個數位身分證的一個這個全國性重大的政策推行失敗造成國家的損失結果居然不是由院長等級不是由部長等級的人來承擔責任而是由基層的同仁來\n\n03:42.136 --> 03:42.616\n委員會主任委員會主任\n\n03:57.130 --> 04:17.938\n不會一定會有人去對這個部分去做一個交代會有一個課則嗎?那我們工程會當然啦當初因為我們就只是合約的政府採購法的一個算是一個上級的一個機關嘛指導機關那後續我們會追蹤嗎?有關課則的部分還是您可以跟我建議後續應該要跟哪個機關來追蹤?這個部分應該相關部會他們會去檢討您有沒有建議的?\n\n04:24.488 --> 04:42.723\n我們本來就應該要去檢討這個問題所以後續這個案子有關相關的課則我就是去主委建議我去找內政部這樣子我沒有這樣講在政府的體系他有該負責檢討的單位他會去檢討\n\n04:44.124 --> 05:11.294\n對阿因為我今天是在質詢主委嘛對不對請教主委那我想確認所以未來可以跟繼續跟主教請跟主委請教後續課則的問題嗎還是要另請其他單位委員要問我也可以也可以嘛我會去了解好然後那就後續再麻煩主委好謝謝主委那另外第二個問題是前一陣子有一個新聞是國手籃球國手的一個保險的問題嘛\n\n05:12.776 --> 05:35.244\n那就是有國手就是對於國手培訓時候﹑比賽﹑不管是培訓或比賽的時候的保險的制度有一些維持那不曉得我們工程會事後有沒有做一些相關的了解或是單位在執行上面支案來行的地方這個部分我在媒體包括在院會的執行也聽到委員有這樣的執行案\n\n05:36.161 --> 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