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00:02:03,619\n在2月7日接獲雲林縣衛生局的通知有民眾陳情緊接著2月20日開始啟動有一連串的動作那請問部長2月7日接獲通知20日開始動作你覺得這個速度夠不夠迅速\n\n6\n00:02:05,143 --> 00:02:13,534\n這一個部分的話其實是在2月20之前我們已經就是擋住了未來的這21家的廠商不讓他繼續來進口\n\n7\n00:02:20,183 --> 00:02:47,803\n後市場的雲林縣那邊發現他們檢查出來有蘇丹紅通報過來之後的話就是讓我們更進一步去做其實我們在當時就也同時啟動說用追蹤追溯的這個系統去查下游第二層的廠商到底是有哪幾家那也是進入到那邊去做採樣所以我緊接著就要問報告中提到衛福部在\n\n8\n00:02:48,263 --> 00:02:48,743\n請問各級的判斷標準是什麼?\n\n9\n00:03:10,241 --> 00:03:24,177\n跟委員報告,其實這個茶宴的一直這樣子升級是因為茶宴出來有不合格但是這不合格不是只有蘇丹是主要還是大部分是農藥的不合格\n\n10\n00:03:25,178 --> 00:03:53,057\n過去我們在邊境查驗這些產品那有這種農藥的不合格的話我們的處理的方式大約就是這樣子只是到後來發現說蘇丹紅的因為加強抽批嘛那比例就增加卻發現說蘇丹紅驗出來的比例也跟著增加甚至那比例還超過這個抽批比例的增加所以我們這個focus在移轉到特別是在蘇丹紅上面因為這個是不准檢出的東西\n\n11\n00:03:53,877 --> 00:04:18,019\n你報告也提到接下來要強化風險的預警分析,針對高違規跟高關注的產品資訊,還有高風險的廠商特定對象來做名單做預判。那作為風險管控參考,所以請問一下判斷的標準是什麼?是不是特定國家出境的食品跟原料都會列入?\n\n12\n00:04:19,570 --> 00:04:37,106\n這個當然也不排除作為一個風險警示的一個判斷的依據之一當然主要是這風險判斷就是要看風險風險的高低風險高低一般來講就是說它發生的頻率是有多高第二個就是說它所造成的危害有多嚴重\n\n13\n00:04:37,987 --> 00:05:01,998\n大部分是用這兩個作為主要的判斷依據那當然從這兩個主要的判斷依據來看的話那特別的從哪一些產地過來的東西是他的這一個頻率是比較高的或者說他所添加的東西是別人不會添加只有他會添加而這個添加是對身體是有害的那最後部分的話當然也會列為這一個\n\n14\n00:05:05,342 --> 00:05:15,500\n當食安事件發生的時候民眾事實上是自為恐慌\n\n15\n00:05:16,516 --> 00:05:42,987\n尤其在境內接獲這種違法通報的時候勢必我們的媒體會高度關注引發民眾恐慌可是也是假消息流竄可是光靠衛福部的特定發布的一些新聞稿是不夠的因為民眾要知道我現在買的食物甚至我家的食物是不是這些食品是不是夠安全那當然最需要的就是要有一個即時性的平台\n\n16\n00:05:43,627 --> 00:05:45,068\n為何在平台上找不到蘇丹紅事件的一些資訊\n\n17\n00:06:13,187 --> 00:06:33,298\n我們這個平台事實上是針對的品項就是做相關的一個品項然後做檢驗之後的一個結果會做登錄不過這個地方這裡委員是輸入的是蘇丹紅是比較不像是我們平常登錄的一個模式\n\n18\n00:06:34,711 --> 00:07:01,252\n這個部分我跟委員報告一下其實這個資訊平台原先最主要的目的是供我們各地的衛生局還跟業者之間的一個可以來做查詢當初設計並沒有主要是針對民眾所以在裡面有一些品項什麼這些的編號或者所使用的這個名稱的話跟民間所知道的是不一樣的\n\n19\n00:07:01,892 --> 00:07:26,885\n那這個部分的話我們可以來再進一步來規劃我們來找監控那把這個再來做一些我建議就是如果是規則問題因為有些場還沒有辦法登錄的話是不是建議平台頁面上增加兩個連結一個是食品安全的即時新聞讓民眾查的時候可以瞭解再來就是食品安全的相關闢謠的網頁那下一頁不好意思主席再給我一些時間\n\n20\n00:07:28,482 --> 00:07:52,383\n那前面講說事實上是第五環我們的全民把關所以接避者非常的重要的確確實食品安全衛生管理法裏面第43條有規定也就是檢舉人資訊要保密那在56條之一也用發放獎金來鼓勵檢舉但欠缺違反保密規定的一個處罰如果一個內部的承辦人員接起電話來\n\n21\n00:07:53,843 --> 00:08:18,872\n不管是他的無心之過或者是他故意把接避者的資訊釋放出去的話那不是對於接避者的人身安全有所顧慮所以在這邊想問部長現今政府內部如何確保我們的接避者的資訊不洩漏還有對故意洩漏的你的處罰是什麼對於過失的洩漏的你的處罰又是什麼\n\n22\n00:08:19,652 --> 00:08:19,912\n本席認為\n\n23\n00:08:49,378 --> 00:09:10,198\n臺灣食品安全的法制竟然完備但是政府的螺絲不能鬆懈特別是中國利用各種手段在製造臺灣內部的危機的時候企圖影響我們的士氣所以政府應該更謹慎應對所以這一波食安問題請政府部門趕快處理來安心以上謝謝好謝謝謝謝委員好我們謝謝林月琴委員的質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9165\t13448\t有請我們的薛部長和我們的食藥署的署長好 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