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00:03:08,770\n那麼我們在標案的管理系統上面發現他的這個落後我們馬上就會提醒甚至於我們會給予來協助那麼來跟地方跟相關機關尤其是地方政府我們來協助他們那麼來解決問題讓這些碰到的不管從流標到停工到等等我們來協助他解決一直都在努力當中\n\n9\n00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:27,778\n主委,不過因為我們屏東,主委對屏東也很了解嘛,我們屏東的復營很廣而且有偏鄉跟原鄉的問題存在,那所以我們目前的有一些案件進度落後的部分確實是比較多啦,那未來\n\n10\n00:03:28,399 --> 00:03:30,981\n偏鄉的部分變來就可以依照它實際的價格需求去變類\n\n11\n00:03:52,094 --> 00:04:12,195\n這方面我們也一直在宣導所以將來委員在屏東這邊比較了解我們會來更加強對鄉鎮甚至於縣政府這邊怎麼樣去對他的個案需要去編列預算那麼讓他不要去造成流標我們會多多來做宣導\n\n12\n00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:30,877\n當然我相信我們委員會很努力的協助不過就是說因為整個地理環境的狀況跟所謂的一個現在的廠商的一個能量的問題也是一個大問題那這部分工程會有沒有什麼比較更積極的一個做法來協助\n\n13\n00:04:32,377 --> 00:04:56,404\n能量的部分確實有這種狀況但是呢這個有兩類一類是大工程他會被這個市場的這個能量所限制那一個部分是剛剛委員提到的我們像我們偏鄉會不會因為他在偏鄉而在地的這個廠商比較少產生這個現象所以這個部分也是可以尋求解決的方式\n\n14\n00:04:58,893 --> 00:05:23,422\n我另外再請教主委,主委之前在媒體上有提過您自己上任之後到現在已經開過將近300場的一個流標的檢討會那從這個數據來看,工程的流標案件去年當然是最近比較少,但是還是有將近10%的一個都會的流標比例那這個部分主委怎麼樣來做改善?\n\n15\n00:05:24,663 --> 00:05:44,462\n劉彪的問題我們還是認為在機關的作為上面他的設計有沒有符合實際剛剛那個委員提到的價格有沒有依照實際還有供期有不合理還有甚至有沒有發現標案裡面的一些條件不合理\n\n16\n00:05:45,123 --> 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