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00:01:19,816\n農民耕作利益嚴重的縮水所以我給你一個數字2000年的時候陳水扁總統就職基本工資是多少一萬五千八百四十塊2007年調整到一萬七千兩百八十塊薪資調高一千四百四十元稻穀收購的價格稻穀價格調高兩塊\n\n4\n00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:50,213\n2008年馬英九總統就任到2016年基本工資調到兩萬零八塊調高兩千七百二十八塊道股調價五塊2016年蔡英文總統的時候就任到2024年基本工資調到兩萬七千四百七十元調高是七千四百六十二但是我們的道股價格竟然調高\n\n5\n00:01:51,280 --> 00:02:18,150\n沒有辦毛錢身為農業部長你心裡做的感想請做說明謝謝委員那我想整個的一個稻農的收益我們農業部一定是全力支持的全力支持人家這條那麼多你沒報告怎麼說明請怎麼說明協助我們的農民整個稻谷的一個收購的部分分為兩個部分一個是公糧一個是我們產地的民糧那民糧的收購大概佔70%公糧只佔30%\n\n6\n00:02:20,951 --> 00:02:43,765\n這個你已經說明了無限次但是人民仍舊吶喊所以本席你繼續要回答之前本席要請問你你是否認為公糧收購價格有提高的必要性來確保農民耕作的一個基本利潤我想我們會做整體評估但是我們會以整體最後讓農民收益提高為目標\n\n7\n00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:57,685\n結果論事要提高但是人民在吶喊所以這個過程當中我們很多的委員不分藍綠白大家一起在吶喊替農民吶喊也就是公糧已經12年未調漲所以目前工資\n\n8\n00:03:01,150 --> 00:03:02,570\n現在多少?26塊,調高為38塊這是我們具體的要求請教部長\n\n9\n00:03:29,355 --> 00:03:40,643\n我想我提供一個數據就是在今年度本身因為我們的產地的到股價格平均到1063我們的公糧收購反而從去年的36.6萬降低到28.7萬表示說我們那個產地價格的提升那會引導農民去繳交民糧那繳交民糧他的收益會更好\n\n10\n00:03:55,334 --> 00:03:58,496\n這個是部長你一方的說法但是我們聽到的就不是如此我們以實際的數字來看所以本期在這邊具體我再給你一點時間你說你會全方位的這個來了解我再給你一點時間你趕快去了解\n\n11\n00:04:21,727 --> 00:04:22,527\n多久港共?\n\n12\n00:04:51,913 --> 00:04:52,834\n2個月?\n\n13\n00:04:52,834 --> 00:04:56,276\n那有這麼久嗎?什麼這麼久?我不可能接受的,什麼2個月?\n\n14\n00:04:56,276 --> 00:05:05,023\n我跟委員報告齁倒座本身的一個價格的來,方案先去討論一個月內告訴我們方案\n\n15\n00:05:05,916 --> 00:05:16,429\n方向可不可以對一個月內告訴我們方案不是方向方向我們已經有了是要照顧農民對不對我先跟委員說不用說因為時間的關係我們一個月內你把你的\n\n16\n00:05:23,257 --> 00:05:43,415\n方案提出來好不好我們再來做討論我希望達到本席所說的你支持嘛要照顧農民嘛對不對我們支持喔你支持嘛好所以目標提升請一個月內告訴本席喔我們支持農民所得要提高好對支持農民所得要提高所以我要謝謝你但是你要一個月內告訴我們答案\n\n17\n00:05:44,035 --> 00:06:10,072\n我們一起加油好接下來本席要請教你的那個讓雞展翅國際聯盟在針對我們17個國家呢廢除蛋雞籠的飼養方式非雞籠的轉型措施蛋雞動物福利規範的這個三大項那在這個31項裡頭呢台灣排行第6所以本席要具體來請教請教\n\n18\n00:06:13,274 --> 00:06:29,138\n您去年這個蛋黃啊到現在我們要摧毀的蛋什麼時候會摧毀你冰在冷凍庫又浪費了人民的血汗錢多少錢請問你要摧毀的蛋什麼時候會摧毀我跟委員說明我們在去年年底已經完成招標請告訴我答案\n\n19\n00:06:35,598 --> 00:07:03,186\n我一天一天要摧毀的東西一天一天都在這個冷凍庫裡頭要浪費電費我跟委員說明齁那這個雞蛋、磅灰雞蛋不是說直接載到那個化資廠丟下去就可以了部長今天進口但是中央的職權我們給你尊重但是要摧毀也是中央的責任今天如果\n\n20\n00:07:03,906 --> 00:07:33,219\n這麼多的理由一直放在冷凍庫要浪費我們的血汗錢、稅金錢這個人民會唾棄的、不認同的趕快去做好不好?趕快去做好不好?接下來本校請問因為我們去年頓寶寺成立之後我們明明都已經要改善氮基飼養的環境但是成效不彰你到底碰到了什麼問題?立法院全力支持你的預算勒進度如何?請做說明\n\n21\n00:07:33,479 --> 00:07:34,460\n部長,你先不要回答。以你的邏輯,任何事情玩不了。\n\n22\n00:07:55,530 --> 00:07:59,554\n你每一個連要摧毀但因為怎麼樣怎麼樣我說我們第一法院權力的預算也是你們提出來預算權力支持你到現在成效不彰你還跟我講中間因為怎麼樣怎麼樣那我們人民情何以堪啊\n\n23\n00:08:11,365 --> 00:08:21,551\n所以我們一直在協調這個過程希望說能夠讓整個琴社的改建的部分能夠順利你請順利資料給本席因為本席非常的希望必須要從根去解決才不會衍生後續很多的問題好不好你順利資料給本席預算全數給\n\n24\n00:08:33,158 --> 00:08:37,082\n方案也是你們提的竟然成效不彰你應該要去討論問題在哪裡如何可以簡化加速這才是我們要聽的啊對不對沒有那個政府自己拿政策預算立法院全給然後你執行不了這該當出了什麼問題啊所以我們在現在跟地方政府跟他們共同的在協助讓他的那個後面的阻擋的效果\n\n25\n00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:10,332\n但是不行這樣啦!你不行這樣去有白色的!因為這樣欺負老百姓,什麼都推給地方政府!不行如此的啦!對不對?一個政策一起努力是可以啦!但是不可以推給地方政府!我們要從根去解決!這一項本是非常重視!來!\n\n26\n00:09:18,681 --> 00:09:40,976\n在2050年淨零轉型的目標你們提早10年2040年的農業淨零目前你的主軸包括減量、增匯循環以及綠區市我給你讚賞但是本期要請教我們投注了10億元的經費要推動農業科技研究對不對?是10億嘛\n\n27\n00:09:43,818 --> 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對不對沒有那個政府自己拿政策預算立法院全給然後你執行不了這該當出了什麼問題啊所以我們在現在跟地方政府跟他們共同的在協助讓他的那個後面的阻擋的效果\n539480\t550332\t但是不行這樣啦!你不行這樣去有白色的!因為這樣欺負老百姓,什麼都推給地方政府!不行如此的啦!對不對?一個政策一起努力是可以啦!但是不可以推給地方政府!我們要從根去解決!這一項本是非常重視!來!\n558681\t580976\t在2050年淨零轉型的目標你們提早10年2040年的農業淨零目前你的主軸包括減量、增匯循環以及綠區市我給你讚賞但是本期要請教我們投注了10億元的經費要推動農業科技研究對不對?是10億嘛\n583818\t608679\t已經一年了你投注了這10億包括了固碳方法、碳匯等你要一步一步的達成目標但是本席想請教在碳匯的主軸最重要的提起到海洋碳匯的這個燃炭有巨大的權利那日本、美國都已經積極的部署你們有匯集哪些單位?請教\n609640\t609680\t部長,部長\n629571\t640581\t目前世界上爭取,我們政府的橫向組織都沒有。所以本期看到你們的努力,但是如果這依照你們目前的方向是成效不彰的。本期軍議體給你建議,你必須跟海委會,必須跟環境部,必須跟國科會,\n649850\t663464\t他所轄下的法人國家實驗研究院﹐臺灣海洋科技研究中心等相關單位﹐你去整合國家的資源﹐才不會浪費我們的稅金錢。\n664710\t693490\t有沒有我跟委員說我們有一個橫向的工作小組包括國科會他所主導的這些法人的部分我們有定期的在工作交通本席具體給你建立剛剛彙整所有的相關單位大家一起來努力我也請你因為10億已經一年前的事情投注那到底你們現在的進度如何請你詳細輸入資料給本席那剛剛本席所建立的這些單位橫向的單位必須要好好的去聯繫跟加強\n694531\t694732\t好嗎?謝謝!好,謝謝!好,謝謝張偉,謝謝部長!\n","txt":"謝謝主席。本席想邀請部長。\n部長工糧收購的問題大家不分藍綠白大家一直關心因為農民不斷地在吶喊因此工糧收購的價格從2011年調漲過一次至今12年沒去期間我們的物價已經上漲15%人工、肥料、農業資產這些成本\n農民耕作利益嚴重的縮水所以我給你一個數字2000年的時候陳水扁總統就職基本工資是多少一萬五千八百四十塊2007年調整到一萬七千兩百八十塊薪資調高一千四百四十元稻穀收購的價格稻穀價格調高兩塊\n2008年馬英九總統就任到2016年基本工資調到兩萬零八塊調高兩千七百二十八塊道股調價五塊2016年蔡英文總統的時候就任到2024年基本工資調到兩萬七千四百七十元調高是七千四百六十二但是我們的道股價格竟然調高\n沒有辦毛錢身為農業部長你心裡做的感想請做說明謝謝委員那我想整個的一個稻農的收益我們農業部一定是全力支持的全力支持人家這條那麼多你沒報告怎麼說明請怎麼說明協助我們的農民整個稻谷的一個收購的部分分為兩個部分一個是公糧一個是我們產地的民糧那民糧的收購大概佔70%公糧只佔30%\n這個你已經說明了無限次但是人民仍舊吶喊所以本席你繼續要回答之前本席要請問你你是否認為公糧收購價格有提高的必要性來確保農民耕作的一個基本利潤我想我們會做整體評估但是我們會以整體最後讓農民收益提高為目標\n結果論事要提高但是人民在吶喊所以這個過程當中我們很多的委員不分藍綠白大家一起在吶喊替農民吶喊也就是公糧已經12年未調漲所以目前工資\n現在多少?26塊,調高為38塊這是我們具體的要求請教部長\n我想我提供一個數據就是在今年度本身因為我們的產地的到股價格平均到1063我們的公糧收購反而從去年的36.6萬降低到28.7萬表示說我們那個產地價格的提升那會引導農民去繳交民糧那繳交民糧他的收益會更好\n這個是部長你一方的說法但是我們聽到的就不是如此我們以實際的數字來看所以本期在這邊具體我再給你一點時間你說你會全方位的這個來了解我再給你一點時間你趕快去了解\n多久港共?\n2個月?\n那有這麼久嗎?什麼這麼久?我不可能接受的,什麼2個月?\n我跟委員報告齁倒座本身的一個價格的來,方案先去討論一個月內告訴我們方案\n方向可不可以對一個月內告訴我們方案不是方向方向我們已經有了是要照顧農民對不對我先跟委員說不用說因為時間的關係我們一個月內你把你的\n方案提出來好不好我們再來做討論我希望達到本席所說的你支持嘛要照顧農民嘛對不對我們支持喔你支持嘛好所以目標提升請一個月內告訴本席喔我們支持農民所得要提高好對支持農民所得要提高所以我要謝謝你但是你要一個月內告訴我們答案\n我們一起加油好接下來本席要請教你的那個讓雞展翅國際聯盟在針對我們17個國家呢廢除蛋雞籠的飼養方式非雞籠的轉型措施蛋雞動物福利規範的這個三大項那在這個31項裡頭呢台灣排行第6所以本席要具體來請教請教\n您去年這個蛋黃啊到現在我們要摧毀的蛋什麼時候會摧毀你冰在冷凍庫又浪費了人民的血汗錢多少錢請問你要摧毀的蛋什麼時候會摧毀我跟委員說明我們在去年年底已經完成招標請告訴我答案\n我一天一天要摧毀的東西一天一天都在這個冷凍庫裡頭要浪費電費我跟委員說明齁那這個雞蛋、磅灰雞蛋不是說直接載到那個化資廠丟下去就可以了部長今天進口但是中央的職權我們給你尊重但是要摧毀也是中央的責任今天如果\n這麼多的理由一直放在冷凍庫要浪費我們的血汗錢、稅金錢這個人民會唾棄的、不認同的趕快去做好不好?趕快去做好不好?接下來本校請問因為我們去年頓寶寺成立之後我們明明都已經要改善氮基飼養的環境但是成效不彰你到底碰到了什麼問題?立法院全力支持你的預算勒進度如何?請做說明\n部長,你先不要回答。以你的邏輯,任何事情玩不了。\n你每一個連要摧毀但因為怎麼樣怎麼樣我說我們第一法院權力的預算也是你們提出來預算權力支持你到現在成效不彰你還跟我講中間因為怎麼樣怎麼樣那我們人民情何以堪啊\n所以我們一直在協調這個過程希望說能夠讓整個琴社的改建的部分能夠順利你請順利資料給本席因為本席非常的希望必須要從根去解決才不會衍生後續很多的問題好不好你順利資料給本席預算全數給\n方案也是你們提的竟然成效不彰你應該要去討論問題在哪裡如何可以簡化加速這才是我們要聽的啊 對不對沒有那個政府自己拿政策預算立法院全給然後你執行不了這該當出了什麼問題啊所以我們在現在跟地方政府跟他們共同的在協助讓他的那個後面的阻擋的效果\n但是不行這樣啦!你不行這樣去有白色的!因為這樣欺負老百姓,什麼都推給地方政府!不行如此的啦!對不對?一個政策一起努力是可以啦!但是不可以推給地方政府!我們要從根去解決!這一項本是非常重視!來!\n在2050年淨零轉型的目標你們提早10年2040年的農業淨零目前你的主軸包括減量、增匯循環以及綠區市我給你讚賞但是本期要請教我們投注了10億元的經費要推動農業科技研究對不對?是10億嘛\n已經一年了你投注了這10億包括了固碳方法、碳匯等你要一步一步的達成目標但是本席想請教在碳匯的主軸最重要的提起到海洋碳匯的這個燃炭有巨大的權利那日本、美國都已經積極的部署你們有匯集哪些單位?請教\n部長,部長\n目前世界上爭取,我們政府的橫向組織都沒有。所以本期看到你們的努力,但是如果這依照你們目前的方向是成效不彰的。本期軍議體給你建議,你必須跟海委會,必須跟環境部,必須跟國科會,\n他所轄下的法人國家實驗研究院﹐臺灣海洋科技研究中心等相關單位﹐你去整合國家的資源﹐才不會浪費我們的稅金錢。\n有沒有我跟委員說我們有一個橫向的工作小組包括國科會他所主導的這些法人的部分我們有定期的在工作交通本席具體給你建立剛剛彙整所有的相關單位大家一起來努力我也請你因為10億已經一年前的事情投注那到底你們現在的進度如何請你詳細輸入資料給本席那剛剛本席所建立的這些單位橫向的單位必須要好好的去聯繫跟加強\n好嗎?謝謝!好,謝謝!好,謝謝張偉,謝謝部長!\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.759 --> 00:09.523\n謝謝主席。本席想邀請部長。\n\n00:31.260 --> 00:45.230\n部長工糧收購的問題大家不分藍綠白大家一直關心因為農民不斷地在吶喊因此工糧收購的價格從2011年調漲過一次至今12年沒去期間我們的物價已經上漲15%人工、肥料、農業資產這些成本\n\n00:58.901 --> 01:19.816\n農民耕作利益嚴重的縮水所以我給你一個數字2000年的時候陳水扁總統就職基本工資是多少一萬五千八百四十塊2007年調整到一萬七千兩百八十塊薪資調高一千四百四十元稻穀收購的價格稻穀價格調高兩塊\n\n01:22.517 --> 01:50.213\n2008年馬英九總統就任到2016年基本工資調到兩萬零八塊調高兩千七百二十八塊道股調價五塊2016年蔡英文總統的時候就任到2024年基本工資調到兩萬七千四百七十元調高是七千四百六十二但是我們的道股價格竟然調高\n\n01:51.280 --> 02:18.150\n沒有辦毛錢身為農業部長你心裡做的感想請做說明謝謝委員那我想整個的一個稻農的收益我們農業部一定是全力支持的全力支持人家這條那麼多你沒報告怎麼說明請怎麼說明協助我們的農民整個稻谷的一個收購的部分分為兩個部分一個是公糧一個是我們產地的民糧那民糧的收購大概佔70%公糧只佔30%\n\n02:20.951 --> 02:43.765\n這個你已經說明了無限次但是人民仍舊吶喊所以本席你繼續要回答之前本席要請問你你是否認為公糧收購價格有提高的必要性來確保農民耕作的一個基本利潤我想我們會做整體評估但是我們會以整體最後讓農民收益提高為目標\n\n02:45.687 --> 02:57.685\n結果論事要提高但是人民在吶喊所以這個過程當中我們很多的委員不分藍綠白大家一起在吶喊替農民吶喊也就是公糧已經12年未調漲所以目前工資\n\n03:01.150 --> 03:02.570\n現在多少?26塊,調高為38塊這是我們具體的要求請教部長\n\n03:29.355 --> 03:40.643\n我想我提供一個數據就是在今年度本身因為我們的產地的到股價格平均到1063我們的公糧收購反而從去年的36.6萬降低到28.7萬表示說我們那個產地價格的提升那會引導農民去繳交民糧那繳交民糧他的收益會更好\n\n03:55.334 --> 03:58.496\n這個是部長你一方的說法但是我們聽到的就不是如此我們以實際的數字來看所以本期在這邊具體我再給你一點時間你說你會全方位的這個來了解我再給你一點時間你趕快去了解\n\n04:21.727 --> 04:22.527\n多久港共?\n\n04:51.913 --> 04:52.834\n2個月?\n\n04:52.834 --> 04:56.276\n那有這麼久嗎?什麼這麼久?我不可能接受的,什麼2個月?\n\n04:56.276 --> 05:05.023\n我跟委員報告齁倒座本身的一個價格的來,方案先去討論一個月內告訴我們方案\n\n05:05.916 --> 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