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時候，老師們跟學生的互動反過來，那才是最真實的，如果你一切都是人家在操刀，結果一問三不知，大概自己給自己就結束了。"],["葛委員如鈞：我想108課綱導入這個機制，也就表示大家都很重視，高達20%，還有很多的老師、學生都非常的重視……"],["潘部長文忠：委員，這部分我們會持續來聽取意見……"],["葛委員如鈞：麻煩請再重新檢討一下，謝謝。"],["潘部長文忠：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝部長，也謝謝葛委員，我們現在休息5分鐘。","休息（10時56分）","繼續開會（11時1分）"],["主席：我們現在繼續質詢。","接下來請郭委員，謝謝。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":322,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-22-2","speakers":["柯志恩","陳培瑜","洪孟楷","吳沛憶","萬美玲","范雲","葛如鈞","郭昱晴","羅廷瑋","陳秀寳","林倩綺","林宜瑾","吳春城","張雅琳","鄭天財Sra 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00:03:27,176\n不好意思部長我想問的是花了多少時間才恢復運轉受到影響的直通服務有哪些跟委員報告這個我剛為什麼說是因為消防隊灑了水以後要去修復這個純粹是電力的部分他們一直到傍晚\n\n10\n00:03:46,542 --> 00:03:49,383\n早上5點多發生晚上8點多才恢復正常運轉整整將近15個小時待會我們再來分享這15個小時有多嚴重我先請問部長火災原因調查的結果到底是什麼剛剛有說這個電力但什麼原因造成了火災\n\n11\n00:04:15,370 --> 00:04:41,459\n因為跟委員報告科技大樓是教育部的資科師只有在那邊有兩個樓層他是整棟的大樓的電力系統所以他這個系統火災原因還在調還沒出來因為那個他們是專業要他們鑑定來說明好那我們什麼時候可以知道調查的結果沒有這個我們就再促請他消防擔因為可不可以壓一個時間部長謝謝這個我們是不是可以跟委員報告可能我們再聯繫那個消防的單位\n\n12\n00:04:43,152 --> 00:04:50,555\n我想這個時間希望我們可以在兩週可以嗎?火災原因的調查請收到之後立刻通知讓大家都知道那教育部是否有檢討如何避免火災事故再次發生?\n\n13\n00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:04,680\n這次的資安事件\n\n14\n00:05:28,948 --> 00:05:40,250\n其實並不是只是火災這已經被定義為資安事件在資安通報當中部長知道我們這一次的事件被數位部定為第幾級的資安事件嗎?\n\n15\n00:05:42,501 --> 00:06:06,154\n部長知道總共有幾級嗎?4級吧?我們是主動通報的事實上第3級已經距離最高級的第4級只差1級第4級叫做動搖國本的資安事件我們距離這樣子的資安事件只有一步之遙第一級是最輕微第4級是最嚴重教育部這一次被數位部認定是第3級的事件非常的嚴重\n\n16\n00:06:07,755 --> 00:06:24,331\n難怪教育部的治安問題是持續受到關心這個2021年其實已經發生過一次了9月曾經發生因為教育部委外廠商硬碟設定失誤造成81所學校一共7854名的學生25210件的學習歷程檔案的遺失\n\n17\n00:06:32,537 --> 00:07:00,794\n除了火災之外,這個備份也很重要學生非常非常地重視,老師也很重視想請教一下部長,知不知道我們這個備份在原則上應該有幾份?應該至少兩個嗎?事實上我們都希望應該是三份這是一個資安的三二一的原則而且這三份還要不同的媒體二就是要有地端跟雲端要在不同的地方同時還分線上跟線下\n\n18\n00:07:01,574 --> 00:07:12,460\n一是你至少要有一份離線的備存那我希望這個教育部還要再加油兩份可以說是太少了希望資安知識還可以再增加那依照教育部公佈的流程這個學習歷程檔案的上傳一共分為兩個階段第一階段\n\n19\n00:07:18,183 --> 00:07:24,686\n將學生的這個檔案上傳到學校端的平台第二階段學校集中上傳到教育部的學習歷程中心資料庫當時發生的情況是檔案儲存在學校端還沒上傳到資料庫被工程師一鍵刪除\n\n20\n00:07:34,171 --> 00:07:54,604\n過去的錯誤已經造成了但更重要的我們要如何避免這樣的錯誤不再發生對此我的辦公室曾經多次向教育部詢問事件發生後相關作業流程的SOP如何改善但教育部始終沒有正面的回應因此我要在這裡直接的就教部長在上次的事件發生以後除了加強演練稽查外\n\n21\n00:07:56,005 --> 00:08:13,858\n是否有針對工程人員的作業流程改善．避免未來一時手滑甚至這一次火燒履歷的情況再次發生救教部長跟委員報告委員這個後面我要澄清完全沒有火生意事啦完全不涉及任何的資料沒有火災嗎?不是火災沒有火燒學習歷程檔案沒有資料受任何的損害這個禮拜三我想稍微特別安排\n\n22\n00:08:20,023 --> 00:08:23,425\n請問沒有受到損害是不是有全面的掃描硬碟裡的資料是否有回水?所以說這一次所有的資料檔案當然學生們最關心的學習歷程檔案沒有受到任何的影響這時候我跟委員報告那自己委員提到的\n\n23\n00:08:41,095 --> 00:08:44,918\n2020年9月這個其實教育部教育部一個非常引以為戒的一個疏失SOP有沒有改進?資通安全的流程有沒有改進?有,而且包含異地備援還有我們相關的這一些我想在禮拜三會詳細的把這部分跟昭緯還有韋農詳細的報告那部長可不可以在此具體承諾未來學習歷程檔案上傳或遺失或毀損或者讓大家膽戰心驚的事件不會再發生\n\n24\n00:09:11,087 --> 00:09:16,651\n委員我們現在包含即使的備份的這一些都是SOP裡面的一環如果比如說啦我講的比如說哪一個地方他受到影響不會造成像2021年的這種情況一定不會讓學生還需要再去製作再去什麼上傳接下來的SOP麻煩再更新過來那也希望禮拜三去訪查的時候可以得到我們接下來還有一個很重要議題我就快速\n\n25\n00:09:39,485 --> 00:09:39,645\n學習歷程的亂象頻傳\n\n26\n00:10:09,085 --> 00:10:22,412\n但我想接下來還有非常多的內容都應該要就教育部長有沒有調查過學生沒有意願上傳就學歷程的履歷我們的這個格式也非常的受限我想接下來要讓部長知道我們現在的我最後一個問題請教部長從這個學生上傳學習履歷可以上傳的這個影片的大小\n\n27\n00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:55,271\n10MB請問10MB可以傳幾秒鐘的影片這部分我跟委員報告因為這個過程其實大家一直包含教育部也跟第一線的教育職同仁來做討論當時會有一些規範就是不要造成又是無限大啦多多益善\n\n28\n00:10:55,751 --> 00:11:01,216\n所以當時在這上面一直也比較強調我們有一些甚至是一些叫做限制主要也比較希望像那個這個有關多元學習歷程心得的表現會有制度上的限制就是希望學生真正把那個成果歷程做\n\n29\n00:11:14,528 --> 00:11:30,356\n謝謝部長我們來看一下學生實際上使用的狀況就是非常的糟糕現在已經低達30%的人上傳高達60幾%的人都不願意使用到高3所以我想這個檔案的格式檔案的大小\n\n30\n00:11:32,758 --> 00:11:47,295\n2020年從文件檔的2MB提升到4MB各位可以想像一下4MB的文件檔PDF到底能放多少東西影音是10MB10MB我可以來跟部長分享一下720p20秒\n\n31\n00:11:50,878 --> 00:12:13,546\n1080p不到9秒鐘我們還不要講說如果計時體系他有時候很棒的作品想要用4K很抱歉5秒鐘都不到現在一分鐘的影片就已經叫做短影音了所以我想請問部長教育部是否可以重新檢討更多元的學習立場的檔案格式及大小並且延應更彈性的方式讓學生們可以用更彈性的時間來上傳檔案\n\n32\n00:12:15,287 --> 00:12:29,795\n我跟委員報告一下第一個就是教育部其實一直不斷的在做有關學習歷程當然製作還有相關傳送等等的這些事項也一直比較希望越來越精進我想請利用質詢的機會向部長提出學習歷程的資安問題以及同學準備的學習歷程可能遭遇到的問題請教育部對今天提出的問題慎重的檢討改善保障同學們的升學的權益\n\n33\n00:12:43,083 --> 00:12:43,123\n剛剛有說高達20%\n\n34\n00:13:01,829 --> 00:13:01,849\n獲得獎項\n\n35\n00:13:17,598 --> 00:13:42,156\n還有最近很多第一屆課綱的學生都出來會呼籲的意思是其實他們參與學校在徵審的時候老師們其實跟學生的互動反過來那才是最真實啦如果你一切都人家操刀結果一問三不知大概自己給自己就結束了我想108課綱導入這個機制也就表示大家都很重視啦也超達20%還有很多的學生老師都非常的重視請麻煩再重新檢討一下謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n14284\t17305\t主席有請教育部長潘部長備詢部長今天是我第一次透過質詢的方式與您探討我所關心的教育議題首先我想先替全國的家長以及學生送您一份禮物請問部長知道我手上拿的這個是什麼嗎\n44121\t44581\t請教育部長收下：能不能請部長到主席台前\n73246\t73686\t我今天這個大禮送給部長禮拜三我們會考察機房請您記得帶去貼\n95902\t118279\t我今天呢是替全國的家長學生非常嚴肅來送部長這個龍吾霸格的春聯那我想這個禮物呢非常非常的重要原因是我們現在正值高中生上傳學習履歷的時期上週教育部呢位於科技大樓的機房卻發生火災\n119793\t119953\t告示﹗\n139924\t159697\t系統間歇性不穩定中斷112學年度上學期課程的學習成果的補件以及教室認證的時間必須延後全國學生及家長可以說是膽戰心驚希望考得好成績累積得好學習歷程累積得好\n160157\t183592\t但是他們卻非常的擔心偶心力寫完成的學習歷程的檔案會復之一炬復之一炬通常我們都不講說不一定真的是燒起來但結果真的是燒起來首先請部長簡要說明這一次的火災教育部受到的影響的資訊通訊服務受到影響到底有哪些一共花了多少的時間才恢復正常的運作\n184360\t184780\t不好意思\n204975\t207176\t不好意思部長我想問的是花了多少時間才恢復運轉受到影響的直通服務有哪些跟委員報告這個我剛為什麼說是因為消防隊灑了水以後要去修復這個純粹是電力的部分他們一直到傍晚\n226542\t229383\t早上5點多發生晚上8點多才恢復正常運轉整整將近15個小時待會我們再來分享這15個小時有多嚴重我先請問部長火災原因調查的結果到底是什麼剛剛有說這個電力但什麼原因造成了火災\n255370\t281459\t因為跟委員報告科技大樓是教育部的資科師只有在那邊有兩個樓層他是整棟的大樓的電力系統所以他這個系統火災原因還在調還沒出來因為那個他們是專業要他們鑑定來說明好那我們什麼時候可以知道調查的結果沒有這個我們就再促請他消防擔因為可不可以壓一個時間部長謝謝這個我們是不是可以跟委員報告可能我們再聯繫那個消防的單位\n283152\t290555\t我想這個時間希望我們可以在兩週可以嗎?火災原因的調查請收到之後立刻通知讓大家都知道那教育部是否有檢討如何避免火災事故再次發生?\n304520\t304680\t這次的資安事件\n328948\t340250\t其實並不是只是火災這已經被定義為資安事件在資安通報當中部長知道我們這一次的事件被數位部定為第幾級的資安事件嗎?\n342501\t366154\t部長知道總共有幾級嗎?4級吧?我們是主動通報的事實上第3級已經距離最高級的第4級只差1級第4級叫做動搖國本的資安事件我們距離這樣子的資安事件只有一步之遙第一級是最輕微第4級是最嚴重教育部這一次被數位部認定是第3級的事件非常的嚴重\n367755\t384331\t難怪教育部的治安問題是持續受到關心這個2021年其實已經發生過一次了9月曾經發生因為教育部委外廠商硬碟設定失誤造成81所學校一共7854名的學生25210件的學習歷程檔案的遺失\n392537\t420794\t除了火災之外,這個備份也很重要學生非常非常地重視,老師也很重視想請教一下部長,知不知道我們這個備份在原則上應該有幾份?應該至少兩個嗎?事實上我們都希望應該是三份這是一個資安的三二一的原則而且這三份還要不同的媒體二就是要有地端跟雲端要在不同的地方同時還分線上跟線下\n421574\t432460\t一是你至少要有一份離線的備存那我希望這個教育部還要再加油兩份可以說是太少了希望資安知識還可以再增加那依照教育部公佈的流程這個學習歷程檔案的上傳一共分為兩個階段第一階段\n438183\t444686\t將學生的這個檔案上傳到學校端的平台第二階段學校集中上傳到教育部的學習歷程中心資料庫當時發生的情況是檔案儲存在學校端還沒上傳到資料庫被工程師一鍵刪除\n454171\t474604\t過去的錯誤已經造成了但更重要的我們要如何避免這樣的錯誤不再發生對此我的辦公室曾經多次向教育部詢問事件發生後相關作業流程的SOP如何改善但教育部始終沒有正面的回應因此我要在這裡直接的就教部長在上次的事件發生以後除了加強演練稽查外\n476005\t493858\t是否有針對工程人員的作業流程改善．避免未來一時手滑甚至這一次火燒履歷的情況再次發生救教部長跟委員報告 委員這個後面我要澄清完全沒有火生意事啦 完全不涉及任何的資料沒有火災嗎?不是 火災沒有火燒學習歷程檔案 沒有資料受任何的損害這個禮拜三我想稍微特別安排\n500023\t503425\t請問沒有受到損害是不是有全面的掃描硬碟裡的資料是否有回水?所以說這一次所有的資料檔案當然學生們最關心的學習歷程檔案沒有受到任何的影響這時候我跟委員報告那自己委員提到的\n521095\t524918\t2020年9月這個其實教育部教育部一個非常引以為戒的一個疏失SOP有沒有改進?資通安全的流程有沒有改進?有,而且包含異地備援還有我們相關的這一些我想在禮拜三會詳細的把這部分跟昭緯還有韋農詳細的報告那部長可不可以在此具體承諾未來學習歷程檔案上傳或遺失或毀損或者讓大家膽戰心驚的事件不會再發生\n551087\t556651\t委員我們現在包含即使的備份的這一些都是SOP裡面的一環如果比如說啦我講的比如說哪一個地方他受到影響不會造成像2021年的這種情況一定不會讓學生還需要再去製作再去什麼上傳接下來的SOP麻煩再更新過來那也希望禮拜三去訪查的時候可以得到我們接下來還有一個很重要議題我就快速\n579485\t579645\t學習歷程的亂象頻傳\n609085\t622412\t但我想接下來還有非常多的內容都應該要就教育部長有沒有調查過學生沒有意願上傳就學歷程的履歷我們的這個格式也非常的受限我想接下來要讓部長知道我們現在的我最後一個問題請教部長從這個學生上傳學習履歷可以上傳的這個影片的大小\n633880\t655271\t10MB 請問10MB可以傳幾秒鐘的影片這部分我跟委員報告因為這個過程其實大家一直 包含教育部也跟第一線的教育職同仁來做討論當時會有一些規範就是不要造成 又是無限大啦 多多益善\n655751\t661216\t所以當時在這上面一直也比較強調我們有一些甚至是一些叫做限制主要也比較希望像那個這個有關多元學習歷程心得的表現會有制度上的限制就是希望學生真正把那個成果歷程做\n674528\t690356\t謝謝部長我們來看一下學生實際上使用的狀況就是非常的糟糕現在已經低達30%的人上傳高達60幾%的人都不願意使用到高3所以我想這個檔案的格式檔案的大小\n692758\t707295\t2020年從文件檔的2MB提升到4MB各位可以想像一下4MB的文件檔PDF到底能放多少東西影音是10MB 10MB我可以來跟部長分享一下720p 20秒\n710878\t733546\t1080p不到9秒鐘我們還不要講說如果計時體系他有時候很棒的作品想要用4K很抱歉5秒鐘都不到現在一分鐘的影片就已經叫做短影音了所以我想請問部長教育部是否可以重新檢討更多元的學習立場的檔案格式及大小並且延應更彈性的方式讓學生們可以用更彈性的時間來上傳檔案\n735287\t749795\t我跟委員報告一下第一個就是教育部其實一直不斷的在做有關學習歷程當然製作還有相關傳送等等的這些事項也一直比較希望越來越精進我想請利用質詢的機會向部長提出學習歷程的資安問題以及同學準備的學習歷程可能遭遇到的問題請教育部對今天提出的問題慎重的檢討改善保障同學們的升學的權益\n763083\t763123\t剛剛有說高達20%\n781829\t781849\t獲得獎項\n797598\t822156\t還有最近很多第一屆課綱的學生都出來會呼籲的意思是其實他們參與學校在徵審的時候老師們其實跟學生的互動反過來那才是最真實啦如果你一切都人家操刀結果一問三不知大概自己給自己就結束了我想108課綱導入這個機制也就表示大家都很重視啦也超達20%還有很多的學生老師都非常的重視請麻煩再重新檢討一下謝謝\n","txt":"主席有請教育部長潘部長備詢部長今天是我第一次透過質詢的方式與您探討我所關心的教育議題首先我想先替全國的家長以及學生送您一份禮物請問部長知道我手上拿的這個是什麼嗎\n請教育部長收下：能不能請部長到主席台前\n我今天這個大禮送給部長禮拜三我們會考察機房請您記得帶去貼\n我今天呢是替全國的家長學生非常嚴肅來送部長這個龍吾霸格的春聯那我想這個禮物呢非常非常的重要原因是我們現在正值高中生上傳學習履歷的時期上週教育部呢位於科技大樓的機房卻發生火災\n告示﹗\n系統間歇性不穩定中斷112學年度上學期課程的學習成果的補件以及教室認證的時間必須延後全國學生及家長可以說是膽戰心驚希望考得好成績累積得好學習歷程累積得好\n但是他們卻非常的擔心偶心力寫完成的學習歷程的檔案會復之一炬復之一炬通常我們都不講說不一定真的是燒起來但結果真的是燒起來首先請部長簡要說明這一次的火災教育部受到的影響的資訊通訊服務受到影響到底有哪些一共花了多少的時間才恢復正常的運作\n不好意思\n不好意思部長我想問的是花了多少時間才恢復運轉受到影響的直通服務有哪些跟委員報告這個我剛為什麼說是因為消防隊灑了水以後要去修復這個純粹是電力的部分他們一直到傍晚\n早上5點多發生晚上8點多才恢復正常運轉整整將近15個小時待會我們再來分享這15個小時有多嚴重我先請問部長火災原因調查的結果到底是什麼剛剛有說這個電力但什麼原因造成了火災\n因為跟委員報告科技大樓是教育部的資科師只有在那邊有兩個樓層他是整棟的大樓的電力系統所以他這個系統火災原因還在調還沒出來因為那個他們是專業要他們鑑定來說明好那我們什麼時候可以知道調查的結果沒有這個我們就再促請他消防擔因為可不可以壓一個時間部長謝謝這個我們是不是可以跟委員報告可能我們再聯繫那個消防的單位\n我想這個時間希望我們可以在兩週可以嗎?火災原因的調查請收到之後立刻通知讓大家都知道那教育部是否有檢討如何避免火災事故再次發生?\n這次的資安事件\n其實並不是只是火災這已經被定義為資安事件在資安通報當中部長知道我們這一次的事件被數位部定為第幾級的資安事件嗎?\n部長知道總共有幾級嗎?4級吧?我們是主動通報的事實上第3級已經距離最高級的第4級只差1級第4級叫做動搖國本的資安事件我們距離這樣子的資安事件只有一步之遙第一級是最輕微第4級是最嚴重教育部這一次被數位部認定是第3級的事件非常的嚴重\n難怪教育部的治安問題是持續受到關心這個2021年其實已經發生過一次了9月曾經發生因為教育部委外廠商硬碟設定失誤造成81所學校一共7854名的學生25210件的學習歷程檔案的遺失\n除了火災之外,這個備份也很重要學生非常非常地重視,老師也很重視想請教一下部長,知不知道我們這個備份在原則上應該有幾份?應該至少兩個嗎?事實上我們都希望應該是三份這是一個資安的三二一的原則而且這三份還要不同的媒體二就是要有地端跟雲端要在不同的地方同時還分線上跟線下\n一是你至少要有一份離線的備存那我希望這個教育部還要再加油兩份可以說是太少了希望資安知識還可以再增加那依照教育部公佈的流程這個學習歷程檔案的上傳一共分為兩個階段第一階段\n將學生的這個檔案上傳到學校端的平台第二階段學校集中上傳到教育部的學習歷程中心資料庫當時發生的情況是檔案儲存在學校端還沒上傳到資料庫被工程師一鍵刪除\n過去的錯誤已經造成了但更重要的我們要如何避免這樣的錯誤不再發生對此我的辦公室曾經多次向教育部詢問事件發生後相關作業流程的SOP如何改善但教育部始終沒有正面的回應因此我要在這裡直接的就教部長在上次的事件發生以後除了加強演練稽查外\n是否有針對工程人員的作業流程改善．避免未來一時手滑甚至這一次火燒履歷的情況再次發生救教部長跟委員報告 委員這個後面我要澄清完全沒有火生意事啦 完全不涉及任何的資料沒有火災嗎?不是 火災沒有火燒學習歷程檔案 沒有資料受任何的損害這個禮拜三我想稍微特別安排\n請問沒有受到損害是不是有全面的掃描硬碟裡的資料是否有回水?所以說這一次所有的資料檔案當然學生們最關心的學習歷程檔案沒有受到任何的影響這時候我跟委員報告那自己委員提到的\n2020年9月這個其實教育部教育部一個非常引以為戒的一個疏失SOP有沒有改進?資通安全的流程有沒有改進?有,而且包含異地備援還有我們相關的這一些我想在禮拜三會詳細的把這部分跟昭緯還有韋農詳細的報告那部長可不可以在此具體承諾未來學習歷程檔案上傳或遺失或毀損或者讓大家膽戰心驚的事件不會再發生\n委員我們現在包含即使的備份的這一些都是SOP裡面的一環如果比如說啦我講的比如說哪一個地方他受到影響不會造成像2021年的這種情況一定不會讓學生還需要再去製作再去什麼上傳接下來的SOP麻煩再更新過來那也希望禮拜三去訪查的時候可以得到我們接下來還有一個很重要議題我就快速\n學習歷程的亂象頻傳\n但我想接下來還有非常多的內容都應該要就教育部長有沒有調查過學生沒有意願上傳就學歷程的履歷我們的這個格式也非常的受限我想接下來要讓部長知道我們現在的我最後一個問題請教部長從這個學生上傳學習履歷可以上傳的這個影片的大小\n10MB 請問10MB可以傳幾秒鐘的影片這部分我跟委員報告因為這個過程其實大家一直 包含教育部也跟第一線的教育職同仁來做討論當時會有一些規範就是不要造成 又是無限大啦 多多益善\n所以當時在這上面一直也比較強調我們有一些甚至是一些叫做限制主要也比較希望像那個這個有關多元學習歷程心得的表現會有制度上的限制就是希望學生真正把那個成果歷程做\n謝謝部長我們來看一下學生實際上使用的狀況就是非常的糟糕現在已經低達30%的人上傳高達60幾%的人都不願意使用到高3所以我想這個檔案的格式檔案的大小\n2020年從文件檔的2MB提升到4MB各位可以想像一下4MB的文件檔PDF到底能放多少東西影音是10MB 10MB我可以來跟部長分享一下720p 20秒\n1080p不到9秒鐘我們還不要講說如果計時體系他有時候很棒的作品想要用4K很抱歉5秒鐘都不到現在一分鐘的影片就已經叫做短影音了所以我想請問部長教育部是否可以重新檢討更多元的學習立場的檔案格式及大小並且延應更彈性的方式讓學生們可以用更彈性的時間來上傳檔案\n我跟委員報告一下第一個就是教育部其實一直不斷的在做有關學習歷程當然製作還有相關傳送等等的這些事項也一直比較希望越來越精進我想請利用質詢的機會向部長提出學習歷程的資安問題以及同學準備的學習歷程可能遭遇到的問題請教育部對今天提出的問題慎重的檢討改善保障同學們的升學的權益\n剛剛有說高達20%\n獲得獎項\n還有最近很多第一屆課綱的學生都出來會呼籲的意思是其實他們參與學校在徵審的時候老師們其實跟學生的互動反過來那才是最真實啦如果你一切都人家操刀結果一問三不知大概自己給自己就結束了我想108課綱導入這個機制也就表示大家都很重視啦也超達20%還有很多的學生老師都非常的重視請麻煩再重新檢討一下謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.284 --> 00:17.305\n主席有請教育部長潘部長備詢部長今天是我第一次透過質詢的方式與您探討我所關心的教育議題首先我想先替全國的家長以及學生送您一份禮物請問部長知道我手上拿的這個是什麼嗎\n\n00:44.121 --> 00:44.581\n請教育部長收下：能不能請部長到主席台前\n\n01:13.246 --> 01:13.686\n我今天這個大禮送給部長禮拜三我們會考察機房請您記得帶去貼\n\n01:35.902 --> 01:58.279\n我今天呢是替全國的家長學生非常嚴肅來送部長這個龍吾霸格的春聯那我想這個禮物呢非常非常的重要原因是我們現在正值高中生上傳學習履歷的時期上週教育部呢位於科技大樓的機房卻發生火災\n\n01:59.793 --> 01:59.953\n告示﹗\n\n02:19.924 --> 02:39.697\n系統間歇性不穩定中斷112學年度上學期課程的學習成果的補件以及教室認證的時間必須延後全國學生及家長可以說是膽戰心驚希望考得好成績累積得好學習歷程累積得好\n\n02:40.157 --> 03:03.592\n但是他們卻非常的擔心偶心力寫完成的學習歷程的檔案會復之一炬復之一炬通常我們都不講說不一定真的是燒起來但結果真的是燒起來首先請部長簡要說明這一次的火災教育部受到的影響的資訊通訊服務受到影響到底有哪些一共花了多少的時間才恢復正常的運作\n\n03:04.360 --> 03:04.780\n不好意思\n\n03:24.975 --> 03:27.176\n不好意思部長我想問的是花了多少時間才恢復運轉受到影響的直通服務有哪些跟委員報告這個我剛為什麼說是因為消防隊灑了水以後要去修復這個純粹是電力的部分他們一直到傍晚\n\n03:46.542 --> 03:49.383\n早上5點多發生晚上8點多才恢復正常運轉整整將近15個小時待會我們再來分享這15個小時有多嚴重我先請問部長火災原因調查的結果到底是什麼剛剛有說這個電力但什麼原因造成了火災\n\n04:15.370 --> 04:41.459\n因為跟委員報告科技大樓是教育部的資科師只有在那邊有兩個樓層他是整棟的大樓的電力系統所以他這個系統火災原因還在調還沒出來因為那個他們是專業要他們鑑定來說明好那我們什麼時候可以知道調查的結果沒有這個我們就再促請他消防擔因為可不可以壓一個時間部長謝謝這個我們是不是可以跟委員報告可能我們再聯繫那個消防的單位\n\n04:43.152 --> 04:50.555\n我想這個時間希望我們可以在兩週可以嗎?火災原因的調查請收到之後立刻通知讓大家都知道那教育部是否有檢討如何避免火災事故再次發生?\n\n05:04.520 --> 05:04.680\n這次的資安事件\n\n05:28.948 --> 05:40.250\n其實並不是只是火災這已經被定義為資安事件在資安通報當中部長知道我們這一次的事件被數位部定為第幾級的資安事件嗎?\n\n05:42.501 --> 06:06.154\n部長知道總共有幾級嗎?4級吧?我們是主動通報的事實上第3級已經距離最高級的第4級只差1級第4級叫做動搖國本的資安事件我們距離這樣子的資安事件只有一步之遙第一級是最輕微第4級是最嚴重教育部這一次被數位部認定是第3級的事件非常的嚴重\n\n06:07.755 --> 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