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00:00:53,470\n立法計畫,因為我這裡手上的資料就是短短的兩三頁,大概就是你們立法計畫的方向。那看起來你們現在所提出來的立法計畫主要是為了要解決目前在法院可能在這個所遇到一些問題,所以修了一些訴訟法、民訴訴訟法等等。\n\n4\n00:00:55,411 --> 00:01:20,018\n的這個部分那固然我覺得這些條文修正是很重要那但是呢我也必須說其實我更期待的就是司法院的提出來的立法計畫是不是更能夠貼近社會的這個貼近社會的訴求也就是我們知道\n\n5\n00:01:21,775 --> 00:01:22,315\n李慧琼議員\n\n6\n00:01:38,937 --> 00:02:08,243\n這個司法院所提出來的這次的年度報告裡面基本上並沒有回應社會所關切的議題那麼其實我認為要拉近司法與人民的距離必須要時時刻刻了解人民的這個期許人民的希望在哪裡要我們的這個法律我們的立法都要符合國民的法律情感我想這個部分應該秘書長會同意我的看法\n\n7\n00:02:09,363 --> 00:02:10,663\n社會期待的\n\n8\n00:02:29,682 --> 00:02:55,438\n司法可以有更積極的作為可是看起來並沒有剛剛其實其他的委員有提到司法院在回應大家對於這個前兩個月所發生的校園割井案的部分也召開了座談會那麼在那個座談會的部分當然我只有看到新聞稿還沒有就是看到新聞的報導也還沒有這個仔細的去找到我好像也沒有找到\n\n9\n00:02:55,816 --> 00:03:24,208\n就是司法院所公布的新聞稿以及那天的那個座談會的這個會議的記錄但是從民間團體的後來在新聞上面的他們的闡述希望我們的司法院能夠朝向幾個部分修法包含就是這個是不是未來消失法適用的年齡可以提高到20歲然後可以有\n\n10\n00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:39,691\n說短短話教育的期間還有要增加少年保護官等等的這些制度那不曉得就是現在司法院對於少事法的修法有沒有一些想法有沒有一些進度這個部分是不是可以請秘書長回答\n\n11\n00:04:08,161 --> 00:04:36,898\n對回答就是你們現在的修法的規劃及你們的預期的進度是如何是的就是說陳如剛委員垂詢的大概我們目前最新的進度是跟行政院在洽商跟各部會開會討論這些校園安全或者是調保的這些相關的這些就是跟學校端或者社區端怎麼樣的去就個案去做一個這樣一個就是商議如何去讓少年能夠得到一些\n\n12\n00:04:37,378 --> 00:04:38,098\n昨天還有一個新聞,就是一個北投的高中生\n\n13\n00:05:06,383 --> 00:05:30,490\n在課堂中間對老師施暴又言語的辱罵等等其實校園安全的問題這個已經是非常的嚴重不僅可能會對同班的同學學校的學生同學們造成傷害連對老師都是這樣很粗暴而且這已經不是這個首例在這些年這十幾二十年來其實陸陸續續都有發生這個問題特別是當我們的校園管教權不斷的鬆綁\n\n14\n00:05:35,931 --> 00:05:37,171\n立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長\n\n15\n00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:25,624\n可以讓民眾們知道畢竟你們提出來的修法案進到立法院我們大家委員們還要一起討論跟這個司法院這邊要一起討論所以是不是您今天這邊可以還有秘書長這邊是不是可以先提出一個你們最快可以提出修法的時間點好讓我們社會大眾知道我們的司法院作為是積極的\n\n16\n00:06:26,971 --> 00:06:29,653\n邀請司法院議員\n\n17\n00:06:50,807 --> 00:07:11,500\n應應向高雄有高雄邵家法院那希望北邵家法院也能夠盡快的成立那所以剛剛秘書長在立法計畫的後面大概我們希望在這個會期能夠針對要增補調保人力跟成立北邵家法院涉及的這些相關的法案能夠請立法院還有委員們大家來一併的來支持\n\n18\n00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,300\n立法院秘書長列席\n\n19\n00:07:33,417 --> 00:07:33,517\n李卓人議員\n\n20\n00:07:50,256 --> 00:07:50,836\n立法院秘書長\n\n21\n00:08:09,068 --> 00:08:09,808\n立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長列席說明\n\n22\n00:08:31,435 --> 00:08:46,173\n雖然這個整個立法計畫的部分的話我希望以後你們提到立法院來的時候是能夠是更清楚的對呃否則的話就其實讓我們誤會我以為說你們其實只是要再多補呃高等法院的事務官但是對於\n\n23\n00:08:47,094 --> 00:09:10,099\n現在大家社會上面這麼期待的少年法院的法官或是調法人力相關的這個緣合的配置可是你們都沒有提到是的是所以剛剛秘書長有先口頭上我們會後會再立即的盡速送進來好的好謝謝那麼這個部分我想就是也謝謝秘書這個廳長和秘書長剛剛的這個承諾那另外就是說有關於詐騙的問題\n\n24\n00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:40,344\n那針對詐騙的問題在這些年來其實我們知道詐騙的人數是不斷的增加那法院的就是對不起那個地檢署的他的這個偵辦終結人數也是我想應該也是不斷提高我不知道這個秘書長這邊有沒有更具體的資料有關於2022年跟2023年到底我們現在地檢署所偵辦的這個電信詐欺罪的這個偵查終結人數有沒有類似\n\n25\n00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:45,570\n主席\n\n26\n00:10:01,028 --> 00:10:17,632\n這些那一般這個都會在法院這邊統計的就是涉及到這個因為這些都會涉及到刑法339條之四的那個加重竊盜所以我們都有有詳細統計出來的從109年到112年都有一個明細表出來\n\n27\n00:10:23,934 --> 00:10:25,475\n施法部在做防炸的技術的部分\n\n28\n00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:42,450\n立法院秘書長\n\n29\n00:11:05,460 --> 00:11:05,840\n立法院秘書長列席說明\n\n30\n00:11:34,085 --> 00:11:34,265\n司法院秘書長\n\n31\n00:12:00,818 --> 00:12:17,832\n政府就是一個團隊嘛那大家必須要共同的去思考怎麼樣能夠讓台灣的炸機的這個問題能夠減緩那我希望就是司法院這邊可以提出來那不知道就是未來秘書長這邊司法院這邊現在有沒有已經計畫未來要做些什麼事\n\n32\n00:12:22,233 --> 00:12:36,030\n這些我們我們對這個這些兩行的兩行的有關的兩行的加重加重的這些因素啊我們都會應送有關的參考手冊給\n\n33\n00:12:42,735 --> 00:13:02,226\n這部分我曉得了那我最後還有一個部分就是說可能回去要跟司法跟這個防務部提一下就是他們這次有提出來在你們立法計畫裡面要增加這個檢查事務官可是看看我現在的PPT裡面其實不管是增加檢察官助理現在其實檢查事務官的缺額都還有\n\n34\n00:13:05,908 --> 00:13:29,166\n那為什麼要增加這麼多的檢察官助理那這部分的話我希望就是之後法務部能夠給我一個清單到底現在不管是這個檢察事務官檢察官然後檢察官助理他們是怎麼分工怎麼運作那檢察事務官他目前他的職務已經他是不是在本職還是他是調到其他的單位去做一些行政的工作這部分還請法務部要提供資料給我謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n272\t293\t發言\n3334\t31893\t主席 秘書長 還有在座的司法院的庭長 處長們大家好我想秘書長辛苦了經過今天這麼多委員這麼關心司法的問題 司法改革的問題給您提出了很多的建言希望您回去之後都能夠從善如流希望能夠提出更多更好的建議其實我也拜讀了您司法院這邊所提出來的113年的\n33619\t53470\t立法計畫,因為我這裡手上的資料就是短短的兩三頁,大概就是你們立法計畫的方向。那看起來你們現在所提出來的立法計畫主要是為了要解決目前在法院可能在這個所遇到一些問題,所以修了一些訴訟法、民訴訴訟法等等。\n55411\t80018\t的這個部分那固然我覺得這些條文修正是很重要那但是呢我也必須說其實我更期待的就是司法院的提出來的立法計畫是不是更能夠貼近社會的這個貼近社會的訴求也就是我們知道\n81775\t82315\t李慧琼議員\n98937\t128243\t這個司法院所提出來的這次的年度報告裡面基本上並沒有回應社會所關切的議題那麼其實我認為要拉近司法與人民的距離必須要時時刻刻了解人民的這個期許人民的希望在哪裡要我們的這個法律我們的立法都要符合國民的法律情感我想這個部分應該秘書長會同意我的看法\n129363\t130663\t社會期待的\n149682\t175438\t司法可以有更積極的作為可是看起來並沒有剛剛其實其他的委員有提到司法院在回應大家對於這個前兩個月所發生的校園割井案的部分也召開了座談會那麼在那個座談會的部分當然我只有看到新聞稿還沒有就是看到新聞的報導也還沒有這個仔細的去找到我好像也沒有找到\n175816\t204208\t就是司法院所公布的新聞稿以及那天的那個座談會的這個會議的記錄但是從民間團體的後來在新聞上面的他們的闡述希望我們的司法院能夠朝向幾個部分修法包含就是這個是不是未來消失法適用的年齡可以提高到20歲然後可以有\n205670\t219691\t說短短話教育的期間還有要增加少年保護官等等的這些制度那不曉得就是現在司法院對於少事法的修法有沒有一些想法有沒有一些進度這個部分是不是可以請秘書長回答\n221049\t247841\t議員議員\n248161\t276898\t對回答就是你們現在的修法的規劃及你們的預期的進度是如何是的就是說陳如剛委員垂詢的大概我們目前最新的進度是跟行政院在洽商跟各部會開會討論這些校園安全或者是調保的這些相關的這些就是跟學校端或者社區端怎麼樣的去就個案去做一個這樣一個就是商議如何去讓少年能夠得到一些\n277378\t278098\t昨天還有一個新聞,就是一個北投的高中生\n306383\t330490\t在課堂中間對老師施暴又言語的辱罵等等其實校園安全的問題這個已經是非常的嚴重不僅可能會對同班的同學學校的學生同學們造成傷害連對老師都是這樣很粗暴而且這已經不是這個首例在這些年這十幾二十年來其實陸陸續續都有發生這個問題特別是當我們的校園管教權不斷的鬆綁\n335931\t337171\t立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長\n360479\t385624\t可以讓民眾們知道畢竟你們提出來的修法案進到立法院我們大家委員們還要一起討論跟這個司法院這邊要一起討論所以是不是您今天這邊可以還有秘書長這邊是不是可以先提出一個你們最快可以提出修法的時間點好讓我們社會大眾知道我們的司法院作為是積極的\n386971\t389653\t邀請司法院議員\n410807\t431500\t應應向高雄有高雄邵家法院那希望北邵家法院也能夠盡快的成立那所以剛剛秘書長在立法計畫的後面大概我們希望在這個會期能夠針對要增補調保人力跟成立北邵家法院涉及的這些相關的法案能夠請立法院還有委員們大家來一併的來支持\n431960\t432300\t立法院秘書長列席\n453417\t453517\t李卓人議員\n470256\t470836\t立法院秘書長\n489068\t489808\t立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長列席說明\n511435\t526173\t雖然這個整個立法計畫的部分的話我希望以後你們提到立法院來的時候是能夠是更清楚的對呃否則的話就其實讓我們誤會我以為說你們其實只是要再多補呃高等法院的事務官但是對於\n527094\t550099\t現在大家社會上面這麼期待的少年法院的法官或是調法人力相關的這個緣合的配置可是你們都沒有提到是的是所以剛剛秘書長有先口頭上我們會後會再立即的盡速送進來好的好謝謝那麼這個部分我想就是也謝謝秘書這個廳長和秘書長剛剛的這個承諾那另外就是說有關於詐騙的問題\n555780\t580344\t那針對詐騙的問題在這些年來其實我們知道詐騙的人數是不斷的增加那法院的就是對不起那個地檢署的他的這個偵辦終結人數也是我想應該也是不斷提高我不知道這個秘書長這邊有沒有更具體的資料有關於2022年跟2023年到底我們現在地檢署所偵辦的這個電信詐欺罪的這個偵查終結人數有沒有類似\n585510\t585570\t主席\n601028\t617632\t這些那一般這個都會在法院這邊統計的就是涉及到這個因為這些都會涉及到刑法339條之四的那個加重竊盜所以我們都有有詳細統計出來的從109年到112年都有一個明細表出來\n623934\t625475\t施法部在做防炸的技術的部分\n642370\t642450\t立法院秘書長\n665460\t665840\t立法院秘書長列席說明\n694085\t694265\t司法院秘書長\n720818\t737832\t政府就是一個團隊嘛那大家必須要共同的去思考怎麼樣能夠讓台灣的炸機的這個問題能夠減緩那我希望就是司法院這邊可以提出來那不知道就是未來秘書長這邊司法院這邊現在有沒有已經計畫未來要做些什麼事\n742233\t756030\t這些我們我們對這個這些兩行的兩行的有關的兩行的加重加重的這些因素啊我們都會應送有關的參考手冊給\n762735\t782226\t這部分我曉得了那我最後還有一個部分就是說可能回去要跟司法跟這個防務部提一下就是他們這次有提出來在你們立法計畫裡面要增加這個檢查事務官可是看看我現在的PPT裡面其實不管是增加檢察官助理現在其實檢查事務官的缺額都還有\n785908\t809166\t那為什麼要增加這麼多的檢察官助理那這部分的話我希望就是之後法務部能夠給我一個清單到底現在不管是這個檢察事務官檢察官然後檢察官助理他們是怎麼分工怎麼運作那檢察事務官他目前他的職務已經他是不是在本職還是他是調到其他的單位去做一些行政的工作這部分還請法務部要提供資料給我謝謝\n","txt":"發言\n主席 秘書長 還有在座的司法院的庭長 處長們大家好我想秘書長辛苦了經過今天這麼多委員這麼關心司法的問題 司法改革的問題給您提出了很多的建言希望您回去之後都能夠從善如流希望能夠提出更多更好的建議其實我也拜讀了您司法院這邊所提出來的113年的\n立法計畫,因為我這裡手上的資料就是短短的兩三頁,大概就是你們立法計畫的方向。那看起來你們現在所提出來的立法計畫主要是為了要解決目前在法院可能在這個所遇到一些問題,所以修了一些訴訟法、民訴訴訟法等等。\n的這個部分那固然我覺得這些條文修正是很重要那但是呢我也必須說其實我更期待的就是司法院的提出來的立法計畫是不是更能夠貼近社會的這個貼近社會的訴求也就是我們知道\n李慧琼議員\n這個司法院所提出來的這次的年度報告裡面基本上並沒有回應社會所關切的議題那麼其實我認為要拉近司法與人民的距離必須要時時刻刻了解人民的這個期許人民的希望在哪裡要我們的這個法律我們的立法都要符合國民的法律情感我想這個部分應該秘書長會同意我的看法\n社會期待的\n司法可以有更積極的作為可是看起來並沒有剛剛其實其他的委員有提到司法院在回應大家對於這個前兩個月所發生的校園割井案的部分也召開了座談會那麼在那個座談會的部分當然我只有看到新聞稿還沒有就是看到新聞的報導也還沒有這個仔細的去找到我好像也沒有找到\n就是司法院所公布的新聞稿以及那天的那個座談會的這個會議的記錄但是從民間團體的後來在新聞上面的他們的闡述希望我們的司法院能夠朝向幾個部分修法包含就是這個是不是未來消失法適用的年齡可以提高到20歲然後可以有\n說短短話教育的期間還有要增加少年保護官等等的這些制度那不曉得就是現在司法院對於少事法的修法有沒有一些想法有沒有一些進度這個部分是不是可以請秘書長回答\n議員議員\n對回答就是你們現在的修法的規劃及你們的預期的進度是如何是的就是說陳如剛委員垂詢的大概我們目前最新的進度是跟行政院在洽商跟各部會開會討論這些校園安全或者是調保的這些相關的這些就是跟學校端或者社區端怎麼樣的去就個案去做一個這樣一個就是商議如何去讓少年能夠得到一些\n昨天還有一個新聞,就是一個北投的高中生\n在課堂中間對老師施暴又言語的辱罵等等其實校園安全的問題這個已經是非常的嚴重不僅可能會對同班的同學學校的學生同學們造成傷害連對老師都是這樣很粗暴而且這已經不是這個首例在這些年這十幾二十年來其實陸陸續續都有發生這個問題特別是當我們的校園管教權不斷的鬆綁\n立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長\n可以讓民眾們知道畢竟你們提出來的修法案進到立法院我們大家委員們還要一起討論跟這個司法院這邊要一起討論所以是不是您今天這邊可以還有秘書長這邊是不是可以先提出一個你們最快可以提出修法的時間點好讓我們社會大眾知道我們的司法院作為是積極的\n邀請司法院議員\n應應向高雄有高雄邵家法院那希望北邵家法院也能夠盡快的成立那所以剛剛秘書長在立法計畫的後面大概我們希望在這個會期能夠針對要增補調保人力跟成立北邵家法院涉及的這些相關的法案能夠請立法院還有委員們大家來一併的來支持\n立法院秘書長列席\n李卓人議員\n立法院秘書長\n立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長列席說明\n雖然這個整個立法計畫的部分的話我希望以後你們提到立法院來的時候是能夠是更清楚的對呃否則的話就其實讓我們誤會我以為說你們其實只是要再多補呃高等法院的事務官但是對於\n現在大家社會上面這麼期待的少年法院的法官或是調法人力相關的這個緣合的配置可是你們都沒有提到是的是所以剛剛秘書長有先口頭上我們會後會再立即的盡速送進來好的好謝謝那麼這個部分我想就是也謝謝秘書這個廳長和秘書長剛剛的這個承諾那另外就是說有關於詐騙的問題\n那針對詐騙的問題在這些年來其實我們知道詐騙的人數是不斷的增加那法院的就是對不起那個地檢署的他的這個偵辦終結人數也是我想應該也是不斷提高我不知道這個秘書長這邊有沒有更具體的資料有關於2022年跟2023年到底我們現在地檢署所偵辦的這個電信詐欺罪的這個偵查終結人數有沒有類似\n主席\n這些那一般這個都會在法院這邊統計的就是涉及到這個因為這些都會涉及到刑法339條之四的那個加重竊盜所以我們都有有詳細統計出來的從109年到112年都有一個明細表出來\n施法部在做防炸的技術的部分\n立法院秘書長\n立法院秘書長列席說明\n司法院秘書長\n政府就是一個團隊嘛那大家必須要共同的去思考怎麼樣能夠讓台灣的炸機的這個問題能夠減緩那我希望就是司法院這邊可以提出來那不知道就是未來秘書長這邊司法院這邊現在有沒有已經計畫未來要做些什麼事\n這些我們我們對這個這些兩行的兩行的有關的兩行的加重加重的這些因素啊我們都會應送有關的參考手冊給\n這部分我曉得了那我最後還有一個部分就是說可能回去要跟司法跟這個防務部提一下就是他們這次有提出來在你們立法計畫裡面要增加這個檢查事務官可是看看我現在的PPT裡面其實不管是增加檢察官助理現在其實檢查事務官的缺額都還有\n那為什麼要增加這麼多的檢察官助理那這部分的話我希望就是之後法務部能夠給我一個清單到底現在不管是這個檢察事務官檢察官然後檢察官助理他們是怎麼分工怎麼運作那檢察事務官他目前他的職務已經他是不是在本職還是他是調到其他的單位去做一些行政的工作這部分還請法務部要提供資料給我謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.272 --> 00:00.293\n發言\n\n00:03.334 --> 00:31.893\n主席秘書長還有在座的司法院的庭長處長們大家好我想秘書長辛苦了經過今天這麼多委員這麼關心司法的問題司法改革的問題給您提出了很多的建言希望您回去之後都能夠從善如流希望能夠提出更多更好的建議其實我也拜讀了您司法院這邊所提出來的113年的\n\n00:33.619 --> 00:53.470\n立法計畫,因為我這裡手上的資料就是短短的兩三頁,大概就是你們立法計畫的方向。那看起來你們現在所提出來的立法計畫主要是為了要解決目前在法院可能在這個所遇到一些問題,所以修了一些訴訟法、民訴訴訟法等等。\n\n00:55.411 --> 01:20.018\n的這個部分那固然我覺得這些條文修正是很重要那但是呢我也必須說其實我更期待的就是司法院的提出來的立法計畫是不是更能夠貼近社會的這個貼近社會的訴求也就是我們知道\n\n01:21.775 --> 01:22.315\n李慧琼議員\n\n01:38.937 --> 02:08.243\n這個司法院所提出來的這次的年度報告裡面基本上並沒有回應社會所關切的議題那麼其實我認為要拉近司法與人民的距離必須要時時刻刻了解人民的這個期許人民的希望在哪裡要我們的這個法律我們的立法都要符合國民的法律情感我想這個部分應該秘書長會同意我的看法\n\n02:09.363 --> 02:10.663\n社會期待的\n\n02:29.682 --> 02:55.438\n司法可以有更積極的作為可是看起來並沒有剛剛其實其他的委員有提到司法院在回應大家對於這個前兩個月所發生的校園割井案的部分也召開了座談會那麼在那個座談會的部分當然我只有看到新聞稿還沒有就是看到新聞的報導也還沒有這個仔細的去找到我好像也沒有找到\n\n02:55.816 --> 03:24.208\n就是司法院所公布的新聞稿以及那天的那個座談會的這個會議的記錄但是從民間團體的後來在新聞上面的他們的闡述希望我們的司法院能夠朝向幾個部分修法包含就是這個是不是未來消失法適用的年齡可以提高到20歲然後可以有\n\n03:25.670 --> 03:39.691\n說短短話教育的期間還有要增加少年保護官等等的這些制度那不曉得就是現在司法院對於少事法的修法有沒有一些想法有沒有一些進度這個部分是不是可以請秘書長回答\n\n04:08.161 --> 04:36.898\n對回答就是你們現在的修法的規劃及你們的預期的進度是如何是的就是說陳如剛委員垂詢的大概我們目前最新的進度是跟行政院在洽商跟各部會開會討論這些校園安全或者是調保的這些相關的這些就是跟學校端或者社區端怎麼樣的去就個案去做一個這樣一個就是商議如何去讓少年能夠得到一些\n\n04:37.378 --> 04:38.098\n昨天還有一個新聞,就是一個北投的高中生\n\n05:06.383 --> 05:30.490\n在課堂中間對老師施暴又言語的辱罵等等其實校園安全的問題這個已經是非常的嚴重不僅可能會對同班的同學學校的學生同學們造成傷害連對老師都是這樣很粗暴而且這已經不是這個首例在這些年這十幾二十年來其實陸陸續續都有發生這個問題特別是當我們的校園管教權不斷的鬆綁\n\n05:35.931 --> 05:37.171\n立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長\n\n06:00.479 --> 06:25.624\n可以讓民眾們知道畢竟你們提出來的修法案進到立法院我們大家委員們還要一起討論跟這個司法院這邊要一起討論所以是不是您今天這邊可以還有秘書長這邊是不是可以先提出一個你們最快可以提出修法的時間點好讓我們社會大眾知道我們的司法院作為是積極的\n\n06:26.971 --> 06:29.653\n邀請司法院議員\n\n06:50.807 --> 07:11.500\n應應向高雄有高雄邵家法院那希望北邵家法院也能夠盡快的成立那所以剛剛秘書長在立法計畫的後面大概我們希望在這個會期能夠針對要增補調保人力跟成立北邵家法院涉及的這些相關的法案能夠請立法院還有委員們大家來一併的來支持\n\n07:11.960 --> 07:12.300\n立法院秘書長列席\n\n07:33.417 --> 07:33.517\n李卓人議員\n\n07:50.256 --> 07:50.836\n立法院秘書長\n\n08:09.068 --> 08:09.808\n立法院秘書長列席說明立法院秘書長列席說明\n\n08:31.435 --> 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