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。","接下來我們請羅廷瑋羅委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":322,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-22-2","speakers":["柯志恩","陳培瑜","洪孟楷","吳沛憶","萬美玲","范雲","葛如鈞","郭昱晴","羅廷瑋","陳秀寳","林倩綺","林宜瑾","吳春城","張雅琳","鄭天財Sra 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00:03:01,690\n主席\n\n10\n00:03:26,912 --> 00:03:27,272\n這是屬於專任的部分\n\n11\n00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:32,973\n你們還要規定說希望能夠具有經驗者的薪資服務滿1400個小時基本的工資增加5%對不對這是我們定下來的那如果真的就用這個標準來算的話其實他等於一天如果是4個小時他必須要工作350天將近快要一整年的一個時間累計下來大概1.75個學年度\n\n12\n00:04:34,834 --> 00:04:51,184\n但是他的整個所有的時薪其實大概平均下來還不到現在我們的112就是我們的勞動部公佈的部分工時勞工的平均時薪194塊錢那這個部分是不是更難找人\n\n13\n00:04:52,786 --> 00:05:06,320\n委員這部分我想因為我們現在有一個初步的草案那也在跟縣市在做這方面的溝通所以在有關這個待遇的這部分包含部分公使一方面當然我們會把時數服務給孩子的時數會相較以往再增加不會說這個是第一個我們會努力的\n\n14\n00:05:15,329 --> 00:05:35,480\n委員在談到的實心跟晉級的這部分,我想委員給我們的一些建議,因為這樣還在討論的過程,我想這部分是不是我們可以再做一些再討論?因為其實大家應該都有在討論到這樣就是這幾天中正高中的事情,那我想這個特教助理員他們的留任還有就是他們的一個\n\n15\n00:05:37,521 --> 00:05:53,086\n議員,我們現在就說利用這一次把它建立起來也比較希望走全國一致至於怎麼樣能夠留得住戶招攬這一方面的待遇委員這部分我們是不是在收集相關的意見再來其實我收到的一些第一線就是特交助理員他們給我的反應他是說\n\n16\n00:05:55,607 --> 00:05:55,867\n拜訪委員\n\n17\n00:06:13,795 --> 00:06:14,616\n謝謝委員提醒我想如果適用勞基法的這些我們服務的人員他有一個勞基法的基礎的規範\n\n18\n00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:55,060\n委員會提到的有關新知的請您發放的這部分我想我也請國教署這邊在這方面能夠在要點裡面把它律定來比較好\n\n19\n00:07:20,625 --> 00:07:21,006\n學習歷程檔案\n\n20\n00:07:36,423 --> 00:07:36,863\n司法部長潘文忠\n\n21\n00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:18,659\n所以一般我應該說通則因為我們說學測以外的50%或50%以上這是由學校自己因為他會有好幾種不同的可能要甄選學生的方式所以他並不是完全每個學校都唯一\n\n22\n00:08:38,496 --> 00:09:03,820\n就是不到六成的一個教授其實這是透過方船教育他們所做出來的一些調查就是六成的教授不到六成的教授他們認為其實是沒有辦法去揪出所謂的是代寫的還是學生自己寫的那相對的來說如果是資源稍微比較不充足的孩子們他們其實沒有辦法去做這麼漂亮的學習歷程的時候對他們來講是不是真的就失去了求學的公平性\n\n23\n00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:13,304\n這一點我就跟委員報告在大學選材其實不只是看學測成績也不只是看剛才談到的早期的我們說備審資料因為備審資料跟學籍歷程檔案其實它是有同樣在推爭當中相同的我當然知道其實這有很多的面向\n\n24\n00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:40,061\n更重要的還是會服務於所謂學生面試的除了疫情期間有稍微做了一些因為防疫的問題否則現在各大學都還是會有跟學生面對面的因為推薦這個其實只是升學管道之一不是唯一啦那這種情況如果說不能夠讓學生有多元表現學校也一種多元參採他就完全不叫推薦了\n\n25\n00:09:53,752 --> 00:09:59,877\n我給教育部一個小小的建議好不好既然這個拉到20%其實對於家長或是孩子來講其實這個門檻是稍微有點高他必須要投入更多的心血那如果我們把這20%學習歷程的過程我們20%稍微往下調\n\n26\n00:10:19,213 --> 00:10:36,271\n是不是有機會可以讓很多家長跟孩子他們也能夠減輕一些壓力因為有家長跟我反映就是說剛考完學測他的孩子本來應該在百分之前20其實功課是好的可是接下來他說他是痛苦的開始因為開始有繁星有分科考試如果同級分還要啟動所謂的超額篩選這對他們來講其實壓力負擔變大了\n\n27\n00:10:40,675 --> 00:10:42,197\n所以這個部分我們可以稍微詳細講解嗎?\n\n28\n00:11:17,300 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00:13:14,419\n委員關切的是專輔人員就包含其他各類的這方面這次在學生輔導法的檢討裡面確實有在這上面做了剛才委員所提到這樣的一個比較大的方向那大學校院也就是用學生比啦所以目前就是從1比1千2到1比900所以大學就是已經朝這個方式來那我們再加油謝謝謝謝部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4366\t5289\t謝謝謝謝主席部長\n10909\t36428\t你好部長我想問一下就是關於特教法的問題因為其實我們當然這個從去年928其實都已經有特別公佈了就是在我們的特教助理員我們希望能夠提升他們的薪資跟他們的一些福利跟待遇那我想在今年的時候其實我也陸陸續續收到有一些在第一線的特教助理員他們其實\n37948\t57539\t在這個部分其實他們還是會覺得有一點辛苦跟困難的一個地方在這裡也要跟部長這邊來說明做一個報告那當然其實我們希望就是他們的這個薪資尤其是在專任的特教助理員他們的薪資是不要低於3萬那這個部分我們現在是做到什麼樣的地步\n58900\t80872\t謝謝委員關心有關特教：尤其特教助理員的這個議題我剛剛有報告特教法修法在去年通過之後那教育部也是同步因為普特融合特教助理員會是孩子跟老師最重要很重要的支持點所以也同步提出一個4年的這樣的一個政變企劃這個4年是從113學年度8月1號開始\n84554\t87777\t經費也都抽編了這個經費我跟你們報告112年大概是6億多那113年因為要執行這個計畫這是4年的計畫總共光113年就增加了4億多了所以現在目前113在特教助理員的這部分是達到10億多10億多我想的是從total\n105511\t120415\t在每一年專任的部分會增加400位 主年就增加到1600位在薪資的部分我跟委員報告專任的部分目前我們用10級的來做規劃 這個要點會定下來第一級大概就從3萬1000多開始起跳 主年按照他的表現跟考核 最終可以到達將近3萬7\n132018\t143943\t這是我們目前初步在專任人員上面的規劃因為現在的月薪是如我們所說是希望從3萬1開始那這個時薪合算下來大概是183塊那但是我們就104的一個他們人力銀行的統計現在大部分的畢業生\n153027\t153788\t我跟委員報告因為在實況裡面\n181510\t181690\t主席\n206912\t207272\t這是屬於專任的部分\n229411\t249002\t﹏﹏\n249082\t272973\t你們還要規定說希望能夠具有經驗者的薪資服務滿1400個小時基本的工資增加5%對不對這是我們定下來的那如果真的就用這個標準來算的話其實他等於一天如果是4個小時他必須要工作350天將近快要一整年的一個時間累計下來大概1.75個學年度\n274834\t291184\t但是他的整個所有的時薪其實大概平均下來還不到現在我們的112就是我們的勞動部公佈的部分工時勞工的平均時薪194塊錢那這個部分是不是更難找人\n292786\t306320\t委員這部分我想因為我們現在有一個初步的草案那也在跟縣市在做這方面的溝通所以在有關這個待遇的這部分包含部分公使一方面當然我們會把時數服務給孩子的時數會相較以往再增加不會說這個是第一個我們會努力的\n315329\t335480\t委員在談到的實心跟晉級的這部分,我想委員給我們的一些建議,因為這樣還在討論的過程,我想這部分是不是我們可以再做一些再討論?因為其實大家應該都有在討論到這樣就是這幾天中正高中的事情,那我想這個特教助理員他們的留任還有就是他們的一個\n337521\t353086\t議員,我們現在就說利用這一次把它建立起來也比較希望走全國一致至於怎麼樣能夠留得住戶招攬這一方面的待遇委員這部分我們是不是在收集相關的意見再來其實我收到的一些第一線就是特交助理員他們給我的反應他是說\n355607\t355867\t拜訪委員\n373795\t374616\t謝謝委員提醒我想如果適用勞基法的這些我們服務的人員他有一個勞基法的基礎的規範\n395759\t413780\t⋯⋯\n413780\t415060\t委員會提到的有關新知的請您發放的這部分我想我也請國教署這邊在這方面能夠在要點裡面把它律定來比較好\n440625\t441006\t學習歷程檔案\n456423\t456863\t司法部長潘文忠\n479800\t498659\t所以一般我應該說通則因為我們說學測以外的50%或50%以上這是由學校自己因為他會有好幾種不同的可能要甄選學生的方式所以他並不是完全每個學校都唯一\n499019\t518336\t​​​​​​​​​​\n518496\t543820\t就是不到六成的一個教授其實這是透過方船教育他們所做出來的一些調查就是六成的教授不到六成的教授他們認為其實是沒有辦法去揪出所謂的是代寫的還是學生自己寫的那相對的來說如果是資源稍微比較不充足的孩子們他們其實沒有辦法去做這麼漂亮的學習歷程的時候對他們來講是不是真的就失去了求學的公平性\n544940\t553304\t這一點我就跟委員報告在大學選材其實不只是看學測成績也不只是看剛才談到的早期的我們說備審資料因為備審資料跟學籍歷程檔案其實它是有同樣在推爭當中相同的我當然知道其實這有很多的面向\n565590\t580061\t更重要的還是會服務於所謂學生面試的除了疫情期間有稍微做了一些因為防疫的問題否則現在各大學都還是會有跟學生面對面的因為推薦這個其實只是升學管道之一不是唯一啦那這種情況如果說不能夠讓學生有多元表現學校也一種多元參採他就完全不叫推薦了\n593752\t599877\t我給教育部一個小小的建議好不好既然這個拉到20%其實對於家長或是孩子來講其實這個門檻是稍微有點高他必須要投入更多的心血那如果我們把這20%學習歷程的過程我們20%稍微往下調\n619213\t636271\t是不是有機會可以讓很多家長跟孩子他們也能夠減輕一些壓力因為有家長跟我反映就是說剛考完學測他的孩子本來應該在百分之前20其實功課是好的可是接下來他說他是痛苦的開始因為開始有繁星有分科考試如果同級分還要啟動所謂的超額篩選這對他們來講其實壓力負擔變大了\n640675\t642197\t所以這個部分我們可以稍微詳細講解嗎?\n656596\t676800\t​​​​​​​​​​​​​​\n677300\t678822\t我們的學生輔導法的第一條條件內容就是在於維護孩子學生的身心健全跟他們的全人發展\n703624\t725200\t我想就是在學輔法其實大家最關注的一個焦點大概就是所謂的專任的輔導人員的配置的部分我們過去可能是用班級數但是因為現在少子化的關係其實每一個學期每一個我們全年度的班級數都在做變動但是被輔導的學生其實人數是不斷的一直在增加當中\n726381\t750510\t我想這個部分其實有時候可能到了每年的7月這些輔導人員都會擔心說我會不會因為班級數減少結果我沒工作這幾點再來我輔導的一些個案跟我本來其實很信任我的可是他們也因為這個部分要被調動所以變得我輔導的個案已經被中斷了對輔導的孩子來講是很大的一個損失那我覺得這個部分我們再來研議好不好\n751511\t755475\t我請要回應一下委員因為如果以學生輔導法關係到專業人員兩部分高中以下當然有一個就是輔導專任教師這個是按照規模持續這幾年也都會逐步的增補而且人數是相當龐大我也提前讓小學再提前在116學年度就能夠聘任完\n776014\t794419\t委員關切的是專輔人員就包含其他各類的這方面這次在學生輔導法的檢討裡面確實有在這上面做了剛才委員所提到這樣的一個比較大的方向那大學校院也就是用學生比啦所以目前就是從1比1千2到1比900所以大學就是已經朝這個方式來那我們再加油謝謝謝謝部長\n","txt":"謝謝謝謝主席部長\n你好部長我想問一下就是關於特教法的問題因為其實我們當然這個從去年928其實都已經有特別公佈了就是在我們的特教助理員我們希望能夠提升他們的薪資跟他們的一些福利跟待遇那我想在今年的時候其實我也陸陸續續收到有一些在第一線的特教助理員他們其實\n在這個部分其實他們還是會覺得有一點辛苦跟困難的一個地方在這裡也要跟部長這邊來說明做一個報告那當然其實我們希望就是他們的這個薪資尤其是在專任的特教助理員他們的薪資是不要低於3萬那這個部分我們現在是做到什麼樣的地步\n謝謝委員關心有關特教：尤其特教助理員的這個議題我剛剛有報告特教法修法在去年通過之後那教育部也是同步因為普特融合特教助理員會是孩子跟老師最重要很重要的支持點所以也同步提出一個4年的這樣的一個政變企劃這個4年是從113學年度8月1號開始\n經費也都抽編了這個經費我跟你們報告112年大概是6億多那113年因為要執行這個計畫這是4年的計畫總共光113年就增加了4億多了所以現在目前113在特教助理員的這部分是達到10億多10億多我想的是從total\n在每一年專任的部分會增加400位 主年就增加到1600位在薪資的部分我跟委員報告專任的部分目前我們用10級的來做規劃 這個要點會定下來第一級大概就從3萬1000多開始起跳 主年按照他的表現跟考核 最終可以到達將近3萬7\n這是我們目前初步在專任人員上面的規劃因為現在的月薪是如我們所說是希望從3萬1開始那這個時薪合算下來大概是183塊那但是我們就104的一個他們人力銀行的統計現在大部分的畢業生\n我跟委員報告因為在實況裡面\n主席\n這是屬於專任的部分\n﹏﹏\n你們還要規定說希望能夠具有經驗者的薪資服務滿1400個小時基本的工資增加5%對不對這是我們定下來的那如果真的就用這個標準來算的話其實他等於一天如果是4個小時他必須要工作350天將近快要一整年的一個時間累計下來大概1.75個學年度\n但是他的整個所有的時薪其實大概平均下來還不到現在我們的112就是我們的勞動部公佈的部分工時勞工的平均時薪194塊錢那這個部分是不是更難找人\n委員這部分我想因為我們現在有一個初步的草案那也在跟縣市在做這方面的溝通所以在有關這個待遇的這部分包含部分公使一方面當然我們會把時數服務給孩子的時數會相較以往再增加不會說這個是第一個我們會努力的\n委員在談到的實心跟晉級的這部分,我想委員給我們的一些建議,因為這樣還在討論的過程,我想這部分是不是我們可以再做一些再討論?因為其實大家應該都有在討論到這樣就是這幾天中正高中的事情,那我想這個特教助理員他們的留任還有就是他們的一個\n議員,我們現在就說利用這一次把它建立起來也比較希望走全國一致至於怎麼樣能夠留得住戶招攬這一方面的待遇委員這部分我們是不是在收集相關的意見再來其實我收到的一些第一線就是特交助理員他們給我的反應他是說\n拜訪委員\n謝謝委員提醒我想如果適用勞基法的這些我們服務的人員他有一個勞基法的基礎的規範\n⋯⋯\n委員會提到的有關新知的請您發放的這部分我想我也請國教署這邊在這方面能夠在要點裡面把它律定來比較好\n學習歷程檔案\n司法部長潘文忠\n所以一般我應該說通則因為我們說學測以外的50%或50%以上這是由學校自己因為他會有好幾種不同的可能要甄選學生的方式所以他並不是完全每個學校都唯一\n​​​​​​​​​​\n就是不到六成的一個教授其實這是透過方船教育他們所做出來的一些調查就是六成的教授不到六成的教授他們認為其實是沒有辦法去揪出所謂的是代寫的還是學生自己寫的那相對的來說如果是資源稍微比較不充足的孩子們他們其實沒有辦法去做這麼漂亮的學習歷程的時候對他們來講是不是真的就失去了求學的公平性\n這一點我就跟委員報告在大學選材其實不只是看學測成績也不只是看剛才談到的早期的我們說備審資料因為備審資料跟學籍歷程檔案其實它是有同樣在推爭當中相同的我當然知道其實這有很多的面向\n更重要的還是會服務於所謂學生面試的除了疫情期間有稍微做了一些因為防疫的問題否則現在各大學都還是會有跟學生面對面的因為推薦這個其實只是升學管道之一不是唯一啦那這種情況如果說不能夠讓學生有多元表現學校也一種多元參採他就完全不叫推薦了\n我給教育部一個小小的建議好不好既然這個拉到20%其實對於家長或是孩子來講其實這個門檻是稍微有點高他必須要投入更多的心血那如果我們把這20%學習歷程的過程我們20%稍微往下調\n是不是有機會可以讓很多家長跟孩子他們也能夠減輕一些壓力因為有家長跟我反映就是說剛考完學測他的孩子本來應該在百分之前20其實功課是好的可是接下來他說他是痛苦的開始因為開始有繁星有分科考試如果同級分還要啟動所謂的超額篩選這對他們來講其實壓力負擔變大了\n所以這個部分我們可以稍微詳細講解嗎?\n​​​​​​​​​​​​​​\n我們的學生輔導法的第一條條件內容就是在於維護孩子學生的身心健全跟他們的全人發展\n我想就是在學輔法其實大家最關注的一個焦點大概就是所謂的專任的輔導人員的配置的部分我們過去可能是用班級數但是因為現在少子化的關係其實每一個學期每一個我們全年度的班級數都在做變動但是被輔導的學生其實人數是不斷的一直在增加當中\n我想這個部分其實有時候可能到了每年的7月這些輔導人員都會擔心說我會不會因為班級數減少結果我沒工作這幾點再來我輔導的一些個案跟我本來其實很信任我的可是他們也因為這個部分要被調動所以變得我輔導的個案已經被中斷了對輔導的孩子來講是很大的一個損失那我覺得這個部分我們再來研議好不好\n我請要回應一下委員因為如果以學生輔導法關係到專業人員兩部分高中以下當然有一個就是輔導專任教師這個是按照規模持續這幾年也都會逐步的增補而且人數是相當龐大我也提前讓小學再提前在116學年度就能夠聘任完\n委員關切的是專輔人員就包含其他各類的這方面這次在學生輔導法的檢討裡面確實有在這上面做了剛才委員所提到這樣的一個比較大的方向那大學校院也就是用學生比啦所以目前就是從1比1千2到1比900所以大學就是已經朝這個方式來那我們再加油謝謝謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.366 --> 00:05.289\n謝謝謝謝主席部長\n\n00:10.909 --> 00:36.428\n你好部長我想問一下就是關於特教法的問題因為其實我們當然這個從去年928其實都已經有特別公佈了就是在我們的特教助理員我們希望能夠提升他們的薪資跟他們的一些福利跟待遇那我想在今年的時候其實我也陸陸續續收到有一些在第一線的特教助理員他們其實\n\n00:37.948 --> 00:57.539\n在這個部分其實他們還是會覺得有一點辛苦跟困難的一個地方在這裡也要跟部長這邊來說明做一個報告那當然其實我們希望就是他們的這個薪資尤其是在專任的特教助理員他們的薪資是不要低於3萬那這個部分我們現在是做到什麼樣的地步\n\n00:58.900 --> 01:20.872\n謝謝委員關心有關特教：尤其特教助理員的這個議題我剛剛有報告特教法修法在去年通過之後那教育部也是同步因為普特融合特教助理員會是孩子跟老師最重要很重要的支持點所以也同步提出一個4年的這樣的一個政變企劃這個4年是從113學年度8月1號開始\n\n01:24.554 --> 01:27.777\n經費也都抽編了這個經費我跟你們報告112年大概是6億多那113年因為要執行這個計畫這是4年的計畫總共光113年就增加了4億多了所以現在目前113在特教助理員的這部分是達到10億多10億多我想的是從total\n\n01:45.511 --> 02:00.415\n在每一年專任的部分會增加400位主年就增加到1600位在薪資的部分我跟委員報告專任的部分目前我們用10級的來做規劃這個要點會定下來第一級大概就從3萬1000多開始起跳主年按照他的表現跟考核最終可以到達將近3萬7\n\n02:12.018 --> 02:23.943\n這是我們目前初步在專任人員上面的規劃因為現在的月薪是如我們所說是希望從3萬1開始那這個時薪合算下來大概是183塊那但是我們就104的一個他們人力銀行的統計現在大部分的畢業生\n\n02:33.027 --> 02:33.788\n我跟委員報告因為在實況裡面\n\n03:01.510 --> 03:01.690\n主席\n\n03:26.912 --> 03:27.272\n這是屬於專任的部分\n\n04:09.082 --> 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