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我們會後也聽了整個院長的一個答詢 院長是說我們會整體的去做評估讓公糧跟食糧都可以提高 這個我接下來再問部長 部長如果你對公糧收購不夠了解的話 你要怎麼調整呢 你要怎麼理解說 農民對於公糧收購價錢提高的期待呢\n291579\t293160\t工糧收購分為幾種?計劃輔導餘糧然後以去年為例收購的數量每公頃多少?價格多少?我想去年的工糧的收購是28.7萬公頃\n320014\t329244\t那我現在想要知道的是說過去在2019年陳吉仲他曾經提起說要增加餘糧收購的這個數量\n334177\t338984\t這個部分那時候你們的新聞稿說擴大公糧收購是支撐糧價帶動2000億的社會效益那因為民間糧商收購價格會以公糧收購價格為基準\n350160\t365646\t那所以呢有有益於讓農民的收入增高那本席也想問你啊現在有網軍側議說提高公糧收購的價格是圖利中間商我想請問一下部長這是怎麼一個圖利方式\n366778\t391708\t我想跟委員說明如果說我們要去保障或是提高稻農的收入要看整個稻谷的買賣我想要問你提高工糧收購的價格是圖利中間商嗎?是嗎?我沒有看到那個新聞就是說他新聞的內容是怎麼寫我不是很清楚提高工糧收購本身它是可能的政策之一\n394110\t398472\t那你覺得公糧收購制度是不是有圖利中間商我想這是兩碼子的事因為他已經實行50年了假設他是圖利中間商的話就是說我們政府已經圖利中間商50年了嗎\n413615\t422982\t所以我剛才說工糧收購是當年度為了保障因為稻米是我們的糧食安全組必須要的所以我只想問你這個網軍側翼說提高工糧收購就是在圖利中間商不是在照顧農民這個你同意嗎?你有打算要照顧農民嗎?\n435987\t447470\t我當然以我們農業部的立場我們一定是照顧農民的啊是啊 所以請本席在這裡特別要求部長能夠提高公糧收購的價格今天我們經濟委員會做出的提案是提高12塊那本席也有一個提案是提高10塊那不管是10塊12塊希望部長都可以重視公糧收購價格提高重視在落實照顧農民而不是在圖利中間商我覺得\n465896\t466256\t我相信你應該也是不贊成這個說法的吧?\n494389\t512708\t我想公糧收購有它的歷史那我再問一下說那如果假設2019年陳吉仲主委他還是在圖利中間商嗎2019那年比較相對特殊因為那年的產量特別高所以我就問你啊他是在圖利中間商嗎\n513959\t514599\t我剛才已經說過了公糧、公糧收購\n533506\t544773\t的態度一定要體恤農民所以在這裡本席特別在這裡懇求部長一定要將心比心能夠理解農民的需求謝謝\n","txt":"剛剛那個主委特別說看地方政府因為我們早上還有一個議題就是\n但消費的你們現在4千萬要地方政府但是地方政府呢有很多他沒有化製廠你的蛋殼跟蛋液蛋液沒有辦法去那個混化爐所以這個你們變成沒關係本期就是希望不要都一直做地方政府你們要針對那個議題去解決問題才不會一直拖我們拖一天你的電費又要花多少錢好不好我們也希望去把問題理清真正有答案嘛\n主席,我想請部長。好,我們再請陳部長。部長,我想您是從基層做起,能夠擔任到部長也非常的不容易。那本席對您也有非常大的一個期待。我想首先先請問您,因為今天大家一直都在問您工糧收購。您個人對於工糧收購是什麼樣的一個看法?\n我先說明喔,其實\n就農業部來講對於稻農本身我們一直希望透過不同的政策能夠讓稻農的所得提高那本席先問你您記得最後一次上一次公糧收購是什麼時候100年提高100年嘛所以已經13年沒有提高了100年的時候就是本席在經濟委員會提出要這個提高公糧收購的價格那您知道\n今年的基本工資是多少嗎?不知道27427470那你知道從100年到現在基本工資漲了多少嗎?你不知道沒關係本席告訴你超過\n五十趴五十三點六三趴所以這十三年來我們公糧的收購的價格一直維持在二十六元你覺得這有照顧到農民嗎這有站在農民的立場思考嗎\n我跟委員說明喔,基本公司的條章這是一件事情,但是我們...那我再繼續問你,你知道13年前央苗一盤是多少錢嗎?你知道今年央苗一盤是多少錢嗎?不知道。\n所以部長我真的希望你可以好好地瞭解基層農民的需求本席告訴你13年前央苗一盤是28塊至30塊今年央苗一盤是40塊漲了33%那本席再問你13年前插央費一分地多少錢你知道嗎?不知道\n那今年財洋費多少錢?這個會知道吧?一分地多少錢?650塊所以也漲了將近18%整地費一分地多少錢你知道嗎?一分地啊一分一千多塊一千三百多塊那你知道肥料\n從100年到現在,漲了多少嗎?漲了啦,肥料、農藥都漲了兩三成我沒有特別要你去解釋我只要告訴你說這麼多資材都漲了我們公糧收購都沒有漲所以你贊不贊成公糧收購應該要調整\n我不曉得你有沒有聽到陳建仁院長在回答丁學中委員的質詢的時候他就有同意說工糧收購應該要調整我想要知道部長你跟院長同不同調\n我想當時我也在院長旁邊 我們會後也聽了整個院長的一個答詢 院長是說我們會整體的去做評估讓公糧跟食糧都可以提高 這個我接下來再問部長 部長如果你對公糧收購不夠了解的話 你要怎麼調整呢 你要怎麼理解說 農民對於公糧收購價錢提高的期待呢\n工糧收購分為幾種?計劃輔導餘糧然後以去年為例收購的數量每公頃多少?價格多少?我想去年的工糧的收購是28.7萬公頃\n那我現在想要知道的是說過去在2019年陳吉仲他曾經提起說要增加餘糧收購的這個數量\n這個部分那時候你們的新聞稿說擴大公糧收購是支撐糧價帶動2000億的社會效益那因為民間糧商收購價格會以公糧收購價格為基準\n那所以呢有有益於讓農民的收入增高那本席也想問你啊現在有網軍側議說提高公糧收購的價格是圖利中間商我想請問一下部長這是怎麼一個圖利方式\n我想跟委員說明如果說我們要去保障或是提高稻農的收入要看整個稻谷的買賣我想要問你提高工糧收購的價格是圖利中間商嗎?是嗎?我沒有看到那個新聞就是說他新聞的內容是怎麼寫我不是很清楚提高工糧收購本身它是可能的政策之一\n那你覺得公糧收購制度是不是有圖利中間商我想這是兩碼子的事因為他已經實行50年了假設他是圖利中間商的話就是說我們政府已經圖利中間商50年了嗎\n所以我剛才說工糧收購是當年度為了保障因為稻米是我們的糧食安全組必須要的所以我只想問你這個網軍側翼說提高工糧收購就是在圖利中間商不是在照顧農民這個你同意嗎?你有打算要照顧農民嗎?\n我當然以我們農業部的立場我們一定是照顧農民的啊是啊 所以請本席在這裡特別要求部長能夠提高公糧收購的價格今天我們經濟委員會做出的提案是提高12塊那本席也有一個提案是提高10塊那不管是10塊12塊希望部長都可以重視公糧收購價格提高重視在落實照顧農民而不是在圖利中間商我覺得\n我相信你應該也是不贊成這個說法的吧?\n我想公糧收購有它的歷史那我再問一下說那如果假設2019年陳吉仲主委他還是在圖利中間商嗎2019那年比較相對特殊因為那年的產量特別高所以我就問你啊他是在圖利中間商嗎\n我剛才已經說過了公糧、公糧收購\n的態度一定要體恤農民所以在這裡本席特別在這裡懇求部長一定要將心比心能夠理解農民的需求謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.911 --> 00:05.519\n剛剛那個主委特別說看地方政府因為我們早上還有一個議題就是\n\n00:06.718 --> 00:36.136\n但消費的你們現在4千萬要地方政府但是地方政府呢有很多他沒有化製廠你的蛋殼跟蛋液蛋液沒有辦法去那個混化爐所以這個你們變成沒關係本期就是希望不要都一直做地方政府你們要針對那個議題去解決問題才不會一直拖我們拖一天你的電費又要花多少錢好不好我們也希望去把問題理清真正有答案嘛\n\n00:39.098 --> 01:03.573\n主席,我想請部長。好,我們再請陳部長。部長,我想您是從基層做起,能夠擔任到部長也非常的不容易。那本席對您也有非常大的一個期待。我想首先先請問您,因為今天大家一直都在問您工糧收購。您個人對於工糧收購是什麼樣的一個看法?\n\n01:05.489 --> 01:06.334\n我先說明喔,其實\n\n01:08.140 --> 01:34.975\n就農業部來講對於稻農本身我們一直希望透過不同的政策能夠讓稻農的所得提高那本席先問你您記得最後一次上一次公糧收購是什麼時候100年提高100年嘛所以已經13年沒有提高了100年的時候就是本席在經濟委員會提出要這個提高公糧收購的價格那您知道\n\n01:38.157 --> 01:40.599\n今年的基本工資是多少嗎?不知道27427470那你知道從100年到現在基本工資漲了多少嗎?你不知道沒關係本席告訴你超過\n\n02:01.348 --> 02:17.226\n五十趴五十三點六三趴所以這十三年來我們公糧的收購的價格一直維持在二十六元你覺得這有照顧到農民嗎這有站在農民的立場思考嗎\n\n02:18.325 --> 02:32.237\n我跟委員說明喔,基本公司的條章這是一件事情,但是我們...那我再繼續問你,你知道13年前央苗一盤是多少錢嗎?你知道今年央苗一盤是多少錢嗎?不知道。\n\n02:35.672 --> 03:01.405\n所以部長我真的希望你可以好好地瞭解基層農民的需求本席告訴你13年前央苗一盤是28塊至30塊今年央苗一盤是40塊漲了33%那本席再問你13年前插央費一分地多少錢你知道嗎?不知道\n\n03:05.290 --> 03:21.757\n那今年財洋費多少錢?這個會知道吧?一分地多少錢?650塊所以也漲了將近18%整地費一分地多少錢你知道嗎?一分地啊一分一千多塊一千三百多塊那你知道肥料\n\n03:33.533 --> 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