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00:01:14,964\n因為各種民調他可能在命題方面這個可能\n\n5\n00:01:43,168 --> 00:01:49,293\n其實在這次的民調顯示的結果民眾會認為說司法不公正的主要原因可能是法官亂判而且把這個結果\n\n6\n00:02:14,402 --> 00:02:34,703\n這個判決結果不符合民意的這個結果就把它歸類法官亂判所以才會導致可能像剛剛秘書長您所說的這個數據看起來可能依民眾的這個滿意度他可能個人感覺的問題去答詢可能會有落差當然這也是做參考的一個依據\n\n7\n00:02:36,044 --> 00:03:03,986\n那我也希望說我們雖然最近的這個滿意度是有史以來這從95年到現在看起來是最高點那我也希望說我們可以繼續來對於這個滿意度不要因為到了這個58點我們就停在那邊是不是還可以繼續提升這個民眾對於我們這個法官的這個信任度的相關問題我希望說我們是不是可以一起來測盡\n\n8\n00:03:05,848 --> 00:03:12,609\n不要就停在這邊可以再往上攀升這部分再請我們秘書長跟所有的同仁一起來努力\n\n9\n00:03:14,502 --> 00:03:32,955\n那再來就是這個雪漢司法官的問題雪漢司法官我相信這最近也是常常會聽到那當然有高滿意度的這個背後是否就是來自於高工時還有高壓力的這個司法官的制度才會演變有這個問題產生那本期的選區在宜蘭\n\n10\n00:03:38,240 --> 00:04:05,275\n那在宜蘭地方法院為例觀察到今年1月新受理的這個民事案件較去年同期增加了近40%那刑事案件也比去年同期增加差不多超過45%以上但這個不是宜蘭縣的個案應該是全國的一個通案那以全國的全國性的問題我想請教就是說各縣市地方法官\n\n11\n00:04:06,516 --> 00:04:12,531\n這種如此爆量的情況那我們對於這個問題有沒有什麼解決的辦法\n\n12\n00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:40,768\n就是說確實人力是不足的所以我們也是很期盼說在總言而法那個上限一萬五千人能夠也麻煩我們國會這邊能協助因為確實人力不足因為爆量都那個民刑事案件都增加的比例都相當相當高\n\n13\n00:04:42,284 --> 00:05:09,697\n那像人員不足的部分我想請教秘書長就是說針對這個部分我們對於案件的內容有沒有辦法去分門別類像有一些案件其實可以不必進入到我們這個司法機關可以在地方調處或是有其他方式透過警察機關來做協助有沒有可能因為這個也涉及到整個那個\n\n14\n00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:38,739\n行事訴訟法整個體制的問題尤其像現在這幾年整個傾向就是很多事都需要法院來照料因為不管怎樣法院還是在我們社會會被認為是公信力的場所所以很多修法之後\n\n15\n00:05:45,025 --> 00:06:03,971\n我本席個人認為是在我們整個配套可以比較完善的情況之下能夠把一些案件不要讓我們的司法官這麼的勞心勞累那這個部分我還是請我們秘書長跟我們同仁一起去研議看看有沒有什麼辦法可以讓\n\n16\n00:06:04,724 --> 00:06:05,004\n另外在\n\n17\n00:06:29,721 --> 00:06:56,603\n這個國民法官的制度問題的部分我想跟我們秘書長來做一個探討我們國民法官法已經上入一週年了那司法院在這個1月份的記者會當中也有提到去年這個國民法官案件共有108件那我相信今天也許多委員都關心因為我們原本設定是這個300件那很顯然在這個處理的過程裡面\n\n18\n00:06:57,123 --> 00:06:58,663\n因為他畢竟要有一定法定要件才會進入到國民法官\n\n19\n00:07:26,778 --> 00:07:41,936\n所以相對的有時候相對的有可能那一段時間在所屬的縣市他治安相對是好的其實有些其實他是正面的那當然他\n\n20\n00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:43,558\n我想再請教一下針對我們這個圖表\n\n21\n00:08:13,810 --> 00:08:38,764\n這個圖表我們可以看到就是我們司法院也是自己做的調查可以看到我們有近七成的這個超過半數的民眾擔心自己擔任這個國民法官的時候會不會因為看不懂或是不了解狀況那雖然這個國民法官的精神是借重民眾自身的這個生活經驗來做處理但應該還是要推動\n\n22\n00:08:39,940 --> 00:08:40,460\n司法院秘書長\n\n23\n00:09:05,458 --> 00:09:29,301\n對於這個問題是不是來做更詳細的這個宣導還是什麼方式來檢討有沒有可能這個其實我們也都有盡量在宣導比如說像目前我們這個郵寄的那個提款機其實都有我們國民法官這方面的一些宣導那接著我們廳長他有一些\n\n24\n00:09:30,302 --> 00:09:45,584\n謝謝委員關心這個問題事實上我們在國民法官的宣導部分我們分家做多元是多元多方的宣導方式包括我們會針對村里里學校或是企業團體會做一般做宣導活動包括比較深度的報導\n\n25\n00:09:46,625 --> 00:10:11,097\n那跟到學校園裡面跟學生做互動或是模擬法庭的一些相關的宣傳那這部分我們會持續在做那在這多元多那個多元分流的宣導活動我們一直都在持續在進行那這有關剛剛委員所提到的剛剛說有半數的國民法官擔心說他看不懂法律相關法律知識是不是要做科普的部分當然科普是很重要的\n\n26\n00:10:11,317 --> 00:10:11,597\n法定人數不足\n\n27\n00:10:30,021 --> 00:10:49,022\n參與的國民法官都會了解整個訴訟程序的內容包括證據的認定根據什麼樣的證據認定什麼樣的事實在評議階段有什麼不清楚的都可以詢問法官法官都很樂意的給他一個正確的觀念跟相關的說明所以這部分我們一直都是在做持續的進行上\n\n28\n00:10:49,562 --> 00:11:10,034\n好謝謝秘書長謝謝廳長那我是還是建議就是我們針對宣傳方面應該朝向更這個廣泛的方式或是更生動能夠有讓年輕人有一個誘因的一種宣導方式我相信這對我們一定是正面的好以上謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n169\t26637\t委員發言有來嗎好謝謝主席那秘書長還有我們今天列席的這個廳處長還有我們在場委員媒體大家午安那我想\n28388\t56247\t想請教一下我們秘書長那在這張圖表是來自我們司法院112年度這個一般民眾對於司法認知的一個調查的一個數據那也是從司法院至這個95年開始每年委託這個民調公司所做的調查一個報告並且做長期的觀察\n57096\t67904\t那其中對於法官的信任度是109年度有超過五成那在近兩年更維持在近六成高達5.8的這個滿意度那從這一次的這個調查\n74104\t74964\t因為各種民調他可能在命題方面這個可能\n103168\t109293\t其實在這次的民調顯示的結果民眾會認為說司法不公正的主要原因可能是法官亂判而且把這個結果\n134402\t154703\t這個判決結果不符合民意的這個結果就把它歸類法官亂判所以才會導致可能像剛剛秘書長您所說的這個數據看起來可能依民眾的這個滿意度他可能個人感覺的問題去答詢可能會有落差當然這也是做參考的一個依據\n156044\t183986\t那我也希望說我們雖然最近的這個滿意度是有史以來這從95年到現在看起來是最高點那我也希望說我們可以繼續來對於這個滿意度不要因為到了這個58點我們就停在那邊是不是還可以繼續提升這個民眾對於我們這個法官的這個信任度的相關問題我希望說我們是不是可以一起來測盡\n185848\t192609\t不要就停在這邊可以再往上攀升這部分再請我們秘書長跟所有的同仁一起來努力\n194502\t212955\t那再來就是這個雪漢司法官的問題雪漢司法官我相信這最近也是常常會聽到那當然有高滿意度的這個背後是否就是來自於高工時還有高壓力的這個司法官的制度才會演變有這個問題產生那本期的選區在宜蘭\n218240\t245275\t那在宜蘭地方法院為例觀察到今年1月新受理的這個民事案件較去年同期增加了近40%那刑事案件也比去年同期增加差不多超過45%以上但這個不是宜蘭縣的個案應該是全國的一個通案那以全國的全國性的問題我想請教就是說各縣市地方法官\n246516\t252531\t這種如此爆量的情況那我們對於這個問題有沒有什麼解決的辦法\n253410\t280768\t就是說確實人力是不足的所以我們也是很期盼說在總言而法那個上限一萬五千人能夠也麻煩我們國會這邊能協助因為確實人力不足因為爆量都那個民刑事案件都增加的比例都相當相當高\n282284\t309697\t那像人員不足的部分我想請教秘書長就是說針對這個部分我們對於案件的內容有沒有辦法去分門別類像有一些案件其實可以不必進入到我們這個司法機關可以在地方調處或是有其他方式透過警察機關來做協助有沒有可能因為這個也涉及到整個那個\n312199\t338739\t行事訴訟法整個體制的問題尤其像現在這幾年整個傾向就是很多事都需要法院來照料因為不管怎樣法院還是在我們社會會被認為是公信力的場所所以很多修法之後\n345025\t363971\t我本席個人認為是在我們整個配套可以比較完善的情況之下能夠把一些案件不要讓我們的司法官這麼的勞心勞累那這個部分我還是請我們秘書長跟我們同仁一起去研議看看有沒有什麼辦法可以讓\n364724\t365004\t另外在\n389721\t416603\t這個國民法官的制度問題的部分我想跟我們秘書長來做一個探討我們國民法官法已經上入一週年了那司法院在這個1月份的記者會當中也有提到去年這個國民法官案件共有108件那我相信今天也許多委員都關心因為我們原本設定是這個300件那很顯然在這個處理的過程裡面\n417123\t418663\t因為他畢竟要有一定法定要件才會進入到國民法官\n446778\t461936\t所以相對的有時候相對的有可能那一段時間在所屬的縣市他治安相對是好的其實有些其實他是正面的那當然他\n462837\t463558\t我想再請教一下針對我們這個圖表\n493810\t518764\t這個圖表我們可以看到就是我們司法院也是自己做的調查可以看到我們有近七成的這個超過半數的民眾擔心自己擔任這個國民法官的時候會不會因為看不懂或是不了解狀況那雖然這個國民法官的精神是借重民眾自身的這個生活經驗來做處理但應該還是要推動\n519940\t520460\t司法院秘書長\n545458\t569301\t對於這個問題是不是來做更詳細的這個宣導還是什麼方式來檢討有沒有可能這個其實我們也都有盡量在宣導比如說像目前我們這個郵寄的那個提款機其實都有我們國民法官這方面的一些宣導那接著我們廳長他有一些\n570302\t585584\t謝謝委員關心這個問題事實上我們在國民法官的宣導部分我們分家做多元是多元多方的宣導方式包括我們會針對村里里學校或是企業團體會做一般做宣導活動包括比較深度的報導\n586625\t611097\t那跟到學校園裡面跟學生做互動或是模擬法庭的一些相關的宣傳那這部分我們會持續在做那在這多元多那個多元分流的宣導活動我們一直都在持續在進行那這有關剛剛委員所提到的剛剛說有半數的國民法官擔心說他看不懂法律相關法律知識是不是要做科普的部分當然科普是很重要的\n611317\t611597\t法定人數不足\n630021\t649022\t參與的國民法官都會了解整個訴訟程序的內容包括證據的認定根據什麼樣的證據認定什麼樣的事實在評議階段有什麼不清楚的都可以詢問法官法官都很樂意的給他一個正確的觀念跟相關的說明所以這部分我們一直都是在做持續的進行上\n649562\t670034\t好 謝謝秘書長 謝謝廳長那我是還是建議就是我們針對宣傳方面應該朝向更這個廣泛的方式或是更生動能夠有讓年輕人有一個誘因的一種宣導方式我相信這對我們一定是正面的好 以上謝謝\n","txt":"委員發言有來嗎好謝謝主席那秘書長還有我們今天列席的這個廳處長還有我們在場委員媒體大家午安那我想\n想請教一下我們秘書長那在這張圖表是來自我們司法院112年度這個一般民眾對於司法認知的一個調查的一個數據那也是從司法院至這個95年開始每年委託這個民調公司所做的調查一個報告並且做長期的觀察\n那其中對於法官的信任度是109年度有超過五成那在近兩年更維持在近六成高達5.8的這個滿意度那從這一次的這個調查\n因為各種民調他可能在命題方面這個可能\n其實在這次的民調顯示的結果民眾會認為說司法不公正的主要原因可能是法官亂判而且把這個結果\n這個判決結果不符合民意的這個結果就把它歸類法官亂判所以才會導致可能像剛剛秘書長您所說的這個數據看起來可能依民眾的這個滿意度他可能個人感覺的問題去答詢可能會有落差當然這也是做參考的一個依據\n那我也希望說我們雖然最近的這個滿意度是有史以來這從95年到現在看起來是最高點那我也希望說我們可以繼續來對於這個滿意度不要因為到了這個58點我們就停在那邊是不是還可以繼續提升這個民眾對於我們這個法官的這個信任度的相關問題我希望說我們是不是可以一起來測盡\n不要就停在這邊可以再往上攀升這部分再請我們秘書長跟所有的同仁一起來努力\n那再來就是這個雪漢司法官的問題雪漢司法官我相信這最近也是常常會聽到那當然有高滿意度的這個背後是否就是來自於高工時還有高壓力的這個司法官的制度才會演變有這個問題產生那本期的選區在宜蘭\n那在宜蘭地方法院為例觀察到今年1月新受理的這個民事案件較去年同期增加了近40%那刑事案件也比去年同期增加差不多超過45%以上但這個不是宜蘭縣的個案應該是全國的一個通案那以全國的全國性的問題我想請教就是說各縣市地方法官\n這種如此爆量的情況那我們對於這個問題有沒有什麼解決的辦法\n就是說確實人力是不足的所以我們也是很期盼說在總言而法那個上限一萬五千人能夠也麻煩我們國會這邊能協助因為確實人力不足因為爆量都那個民刑事案件都增加的比例都相當相當高\n那像人員不足的部分我想請教秘書長就是說針對這個部分我們對於案件的內容有沒有辦法去分門別類像有一些案件其實可以不必進入到我們這個司法機關可以在地方調處或是有其他方式透過警察機關來做協助有沒有可能因為這個也涉及到整個那個\n行事訴訟法整個體制的問題尤其像現在這幾年整個傾向就是很多事都需要法院來照料因為不管怎樣法院還是在我們社會會被認為是公信力的場所所以很多修法之後\n我本席個人認為是在我們整個配套可以比較完善的情況之下能夠把一些案件不要讓我們的司法官這麼的勞心勞累那這個部分我還是請我們秘書長跟我們同仁一起去研議看看有沒有什麼辦法可以讓\n另外在\n這個國民法官的制度問題的部分我想跟我們秘書長來做一個探討我們國民法官法已經上入一週年了那司法院在這個1月份的記者會當中也有提到去年這個國民法官案件共有108件那我相信今天也許多委員都關心因為我們原本設定是這個300件那很顯然在這個處理的過程裡面\n因為他畢竟要有一定法定要件才會進入到國民法官\n所以相對的有時候相對的有可能那一段時間在所屬的縣市他治安相對是好的其實有些其實他是正面的那當然他\n我想再請教一下針對我們這個圖表\n這個圖表我們可以看到就是我們司法院也是自己做的調查可以看到我們有近七成的這個超過半數的民眾擔心自己擔任這個國民法官的時候會不會因為看不懂或是不了解狀況那雖然這個國民法官的精神是借重民眾自身的這個生活經驗來做處理但應該還是要推動\n司法院秘書長\n對於這個問題是不是來做更詳細的這個宣導還是什麼方式來檢討有沒有可能這個其實我們也都有盡量在宣導比如說像目前我們這個郵寄的那個提款機其實都有我們國民法官這方面的一些宣導那接著我們廳長他有一些\n謝謝委員關心這個問題事實上我們在國民法官的宣導部分我們分家做多元是多元多方的宣導方式包括我們會針對村里里學校或是企業團體會做一般做宣導活動包括比較深度的報導\n那跟到學校園裡面跟學生做互動或是模擬法庭的一些相關的宣傳那這部分我們會持續在做那在這多元多那個多元分流的宣導活動我們一直都在持續在進行那這有關剛剛委員所提到的剛剛說有半數的國民法官擔心說他看不懂法律相關法律知識是不是要做科普的部分當然科普是很重要的\n法定人數不足\n參與的國民法官都會了解整個訴訟程序的內容包括證據的認定根據什麼樣的證據認定什麼樣的事實在評議階段有什麼不清楚的都可以詢問法官法官都很樂意的給他一個正確的觀念跟相關的說明所以這部分我們一直都是在做持續的進行上\n好 謝謝秘書長 謝謝廳長那我是還是建議就是我們針對宣傳方面應該朝向更這個廣泛的方式或是更生動能夠有讓年輕人有一個誘因的一種宣導方式我相信這對我們一定是正面的好 以上謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.169 --> 00:26.637\n委員發言有來嗎好謝謝主席那秘書長還有我們今天列席的這個廳處長還有我們在場委員媒體大家午安那我想\n\n00:28.388 --> 00:56.247\n想請教一下我們秘書長那在這張圖表是來自我們司法院112年度這個一般民眾對於司法認知的一個調查的一個數據那也是從司法院至這個95年開始每年委託這個民調公司所做的調查一個報告並且做長期的觀察\n\n00:57.096 --> 01:07.904\n那其中對於法官的信任度是109年度有超過五成那在近兩年更維持在近六成高達5.8的這個滿意度那從這一次的這個調查\n\n01:14.104 --> 01:14.964\n因為各種民調他可能在命題方面這個可能\n\n01:43.168 --> 01:49.293\n其實在這次的民調顯示的結果民眾會認為說司法不公正的主要原因可能是法官亂判而且把這個結果\n\n02:14.402 --> 02:34.703\n這個判決結果不符合民意的這個結果就把它歸類法官亂判所以才會導致可能像剛剛秘書長您所說的這個數據看起來可能依民眾的這個滿意度他可能個人感覺的問題去答詢可能會有落差當然這也是做參考的一個依據\n\n02:36.044 --> 03:03.986\n那我也希望說我們雖然最近的這個滿意度是有史以來這從95年到現在看起來是最高點那我也希望說我們可以繼續來對於這個滿意度不要因為到了這個58點我們就停在那邊是不是還可以繼續提升這個民眾對於我們這個法官的這個信任度的相關問題我希望說我們是不是可以一起來測盡\n\n03:05.848 --> 03:12.609\n不要就停在這邊可以再往上攀升這部分再請我們秘書長跟所有的同仁一起來努力\n\n03:14.502 --> 03:32.955\n那再來就是這個雪漢司法官的問題雪漢司法官我相信這最近也是常常會聽到那當然有高滿意度的這個背後是否就是來自於高工時還有高壓力的這個司法官的制度才會演變有這個問題產生那本期的選區在宜蘭\n\n03:38.240 --> 04:05.275\n那在宜蘭地方法院為例觀察到今年1月新受理的這個民事案件較去年同期增加了近40%那刑事案件也比去年同期增加差不多超過45%以上但這個不是宜蘭縣的個案應該是全國的一個通案那以全國的全國性的問題我想請教就是說各縣市地方法官\n\n04:06.516 --> 04:12.531\n這種如此爆量的情況那我們對於這個問題有沒有什麼解決的辦法\n\n04:13.410 --> 04:40.768\n就是說確實人力是不足的所以我們也是很期盼說在總言而法那個上限一萬五千人能夠也麻煩我們國會這邊能協助因為確實人力不足因為爆量都那個民刑事案件都增加的比例都相當相當高\n\n04:42.284 --> 05:09.697\n那像人員不足的部分我想請教秘書長就是說針對這個部分我們對於案件的內容有沒有辦法去分門別類像有一些案件其實可以不必進入到我們這個司法機關可以在地方調處或是有其他方式透過警察機關來做協助有沒有可能因為這個也涉及到整個那個\n\n05:12.199 --> 05:38.739\n行事訴訟法整個體制的問題尤其像現在這幾年整個傾向就是很多事都需要法院來照料因為不管怎樣法院還是在我們社會會被認為是公信力的場所所以很多修法之後\n\n05:45.025 --> 06:03.971\n我本席個人認為是在我們整個配套可以比較完善的情況之下能夠把一些案件不要讓我們的司法官這麼的勞心勞累那這個部分我還是請我們秘書長跟我們同仁一起去研議看看有沒有什麼辦法可以讓\n\n06:04.724 --> 06:05.004\n另外在\n\n06:29.721 --> 06:56.603\n這個國民法官的制度問題的部分我想跟我們秘書長來做一個探討我們國民法官法已經上入一週年了那司法院在這個1月份的記者會當中也有提到去年這個國民法官案件共有108件那我相信今天也許多委員都關心因為我們原本設定是這個300件那很顯然在這個處理的過程裡面\n\n06:57.123 --> 06:58.663\n因為他畢竟要有一定法定要件才會進入到國民法官\n\n07:26.778 --> 07:41.936\n所以相對的有時候相對的有可能那一段時間在所屬的縣市他治安相對是好的其實有些其實他是正面的那當然他\n\n07:42.837 --> 07:43.558\n我想再請教一下針對我們這個圖表\n\n08:13.810 --> 08:38.764\n這個圖表我們可以看到就是我們司法院也是自己做的調查可以看到我們有近七成的這個超過半數的民眾擔心自己擔任這個國民法官的時候會不會因為看不懂或是不了解狀況那雖然這個國民法官的精神是借重民眾自身的這個生活經驗來做處理但應該還是要推動\n\n08:39.940 --> 08:40.460\n司法院秘書長\n\n09:05.458 --> 09:29.301\n對於這個問題是不是來做更詳細的這個宣導還是什麼方式來檢討有沒有可能這個其實我們也都有盡量在宣導比如說像目前我們這個郵寄的那個提款機其實都有我們國民法官這方面的一些宣導那接著我們廳長他有一些\n\n09:30.302 --> 09:45.584\n謝謝委員關心這個問題事實上我們在國民法官的宣導部分我們分家做多元是多元多方的宣導方式包括我們會針對村里里學校或是企業團體會做一般做宣導活動包括比較深度的報導\n\n09:46.625 --> 10:11.097\n那跟到學校園裡面跟學生做互動或是模擬法庭的一些相關的宣傳那這部分我們會持續在做那在這多元多那個多元分流的宣導活動我們一直都在持續在進行那這有關剛剛委員所提到的剛剛說有半數的國民法官擔心說他看不懂法律相關法律知識是不是要做科普的部分當然科普是很重要的\n\n10:11.317 --> 10:11.597\n法定人數不足\n\n10:30.021 --> 10:49.022\n參與的國民法官都會了解整個訴訟程序的內容包括證據的認定根據什麼樣的證據認定什麼樣的事實在評議階段有什麼不清楚的都可以詢問法官法官都很樂意的給他一個正確的觀念跟相關的說明所以這部分我們一直都是在做持續的進行上\n\n10:49.562 --> 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