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00:02:10,527\n政府作為可以說是背道而馳保守逃避而且沒有創新跟你們所說的多元根本就不一樣根據國內金融業者所做的調查報告顯示國人對於虛擬資產越來越熟悉接受度越來越高若以1為最低10為最高來看調查結果顯示無論是否持有虛擬資產民眾顯然對投資虛擬資產有一定程度的意願在1到10分裡面已經超過5了而且買過的人還會越來越想買越買越多\n\n6\n00:02:12,228 --> 00:02:37,572\n今年1月10日美國證券交易委員會宣布批准了比特幣ETF現貨交易1月10日一共有11檔比特幣ETF申請全部獲得通過這對於喜愛投資美股或虛擬資產的民眾來說是一大樂事但是很遺憾國內券商在1月23日發出公告表示收到金管會的通知\n\n7\n00:02:38,032 --> 00:03:05,774\n只能透過副委託賣出連結虛擬貨幣的現貨以及期貨相關商業不可以新增委託買進受到影響的由美國以及香港市場約21檔ETF我知道目前國內的法規不允許比特幣ETF自己在台上市但是禁止國內的民眾用副委託官方推薦的方式來購買美國比特幣ETF在投資界引起了不小的反彈想請主委簡短說明\n\n8\n00:03:07,876 --> 00:03:13,467\n目前禁止民眾付委託購買美國比特幣ETF的原因到底是什麼?\n\n9\n00:03:14,632 --> 00:03:39,685\n現在的負委託我們允許券商能夠提供投資人投資負委託的商品都是政企局核定過的所以如果比特幣ETF為什麼不能買因為它的波動力高沒有內涵價值我想大家都有時候能想一句話不好意思我打斷您投資一定有風險基金投資有賺有賠如果價格波動大且風險高可以作為禁止理由\n\n10\n00:03:40,405 --> 00:03:54,545\n金管會是不是應該定期公布各種負委託美股、衍生性金融商品的投資風險,並且根據排名將風險高的逐一禁止呢?美商超微的股票在前三個月漲了200%,是不是也要禁止啊?\n\n11\n00:03:55,424 --> 00:04:20,675\n委員這分兩點跟您報告第一點我想您是專家虛擬資產沒有內涵價值第二點我們沒有說完全不行我們請券商公會在半年之內就4月底之前提出如果富委託要納入現貨ETF它的配套措施跟您的方案比特幣ETF嗎半年內嗎是好比特幣沒有內涵價值這個我想請教主委這是您的主觀認定還是做過調查報告\n\n12\n00:04:21,975 --> 00:04:45,339\n內涵價值是大家有沒有做調查報告各國監理機關都是這樣認為的如果有做調查報告的話各國監理所以他認為他同意啊所以他上了ETF啊美國的報告委員打擾你美國證管會不是自願他是法院裁決他的禁止是無效的我想這個是不應該是做主觀認定的齁如果有做調查報告希望一個月內交到我們的辦公室可以嗎\n\n13\n00:04:46,943 --> 00:05:12,460\n因為比特幣的產生就跟實體經濟沒有關係這是您的個人看法還是調查這是從理論跟文獻中我們應該依據您的個人看法來決定民眾要買什麼不買什麼嗎我們會後跟委員請教好希望我們可以得到相關的報告為什麼對不起這個主委我為什麼這麼這個情緒上這個非常非常的投入這樣的一個議題是因為\n\n14\n00:05:14,801 --> 00:05:33,815\n大家真的非常有興趣但是如果我們沒有一個官方附委託購買的過程跟方法反而會讓許多想買比特幣ETF的民眾翻牆透過海外的券商來購買如此政府更加難以掌握民眾對美國比特幣ETF的投資情形\n\n15\n00:05:34,776 --> 00:06:02,719\n券商也少了手續費的收入民眾如果跟國外券商發生了投資糾紛還要自行承擔風險甚至可能會不慎掉入詐騙的陷阱毫無保障這對政府跟民眾來說可以說是三輸甚至是全輸啦我想今晚會直接的粗暴禁止是不是有過度限制人民基本自由的嫌疑退一步來講如果直接禁止我想我們非常期待主委這邊來提出相關的報告\n\n16\n00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:32,060\n同時也告訴我們到底解禁多久之後可能會開放否則接下來假設虛擬貨幣ETF越來越多元啊前兩天又上了一檔啊以太幣的現貨ETF可能也要出現啊金管會要如何因應呢我想我最後一個問題啊今天這個第一次質詢拜託也再借一分鐘好主席謝謝我想啊假設民眾真的很想購買啊現在啊意願如此高張主委會建議民眾透過什麼樣的管道購買勒\n\n17\n00:06:34,451 --> 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宣布批准了比特幣ETF現貨交易1月10日一共有11檔比特幣ETF申請全部獲得通過這對於喜愛投資美股或虛擬資產的民眾來說是一大樂事但是很遺憾國內券商在1月23日發出公告表示收到金管會的通知\n158032\t185774\t只能透過副委託賣出連結虛擬貨幣的現貨以及期貨相關商業不可以新增委託買進受到影響的由美國以及香港市場約21檔ETF我知道目前國內的法規不允許比特幣ETF自己在台上市但是禁止國內的民眾用副委託官方推薦的方式來購買美國比特幣ETF在投資界引起了不小的反彈想請主委簡短說明\n187876\t193467\t目前禁止民眾付委託購買美國比特幣ETF的原因到底是什麼?\n194632\t219685\t現在的負委託我們允許券商能夠提供投資人投資負委託的商品都是政企局核定過的所以如果比特幣ETF為什麼不能買因為它的波動力高沒有內涵價值我想大家都有時候能想一句話不好意思我打斷您投資一定有風險基金投資有賺有賠如果價格波動大且風險高可以作為禁止理由\n220405\t234545\t金管會是不是應該定期公布各種負委託美股、衍生性金融商品的投資風險,並且根據排名將風險高的逐一禁止呢?美商超微的股票在前三個月漲了200%,是不是也要禁止啊?\n235424\t260675\t委員這分兩點跟您報告第一點我想您是專家虛擬資產沒有內涵價值第二點我們沒有說完全不行我們請券商公會在半年之內就4月底之前提出如果富委託要納入現貨ETF它的配套措施跟您的方案比特幣ETF嗎半年內嗎是好比特幣沒有內涵價值這個我想請教主委這是您的主觀認定還是做過調查報告\n261975\t285339\t內涵價值是大家有沒有做調查報告各國監理機關都是這樣認為的如果有做調查報告的話各國監理所以他認為他同意啊所以他上了ETF啊美國的報告委員打擾你美國證管會不是自願他是法院裁決他的禁止是無效的我想這個是不應該是做主觀認定的齁如果有做調查報告希望一個月內交到我們的辦公室可以嗎\n286943\t312460\t因為比特幣的產生就跟實體經濟沒有關係這是您的個人看法還是調查這是從理論跟文獻中我們應該依據您的個人看法來決定民眾要買什麼不買什麼嗎我們會後跟委員請教好希望我們可以得到相關的報告為什麼對不起這個主委我為什麼這麼這個情緒上這個非常非常的投入這樣的一個議題是因為\n314801\t333815\t大家真的非常有興趣但是如果我們沒有一個官方附委託購買的過程跟方法反而會讓許多想買比特幣ETF的民眾翻牆透過海外的券商來購買如此政府更加難以掌握民眾對美國比特幣ETF的投資情形\n334776\t362719\t券商也少了手續費的收入民眾如果跟國外券商發生了投資糾紛還要自行承擔風險甚至可能會不慎掉入詐騙的陷阱毫無保障這對政府跟民眾來說可以說是三輸甚至是全輸啦我想今晚會直接的粗暴禁止是不是有過度限制人民基本自由的嫌疑退一步來講如果直接禁止我想我們非常期待主委這邊來提出相關的報告\n363700\t392060\t同時也告訴我們到底解禁多久之後可能會開放否則接下來假設虛擬貨幣ETF越來越多元啊前兩天又上了一檔啊以太幣的現貨ETF可能也要出現啊金管會要如何因應呢我想我最後一個問題啊今天這個第一次質詢拜託也再借一分鐘好主席謝謝我想啊假設民眾真的很想購買啊現在啊意願如此高張主委會建議民眾透過什麼樣的管道購買勒\n394451\t405484\t委員我跟您報告也許我講的話您不會很高興包括美國新加坡這些監理機關其實對民眾投入虛擬資產都是持相對保留跟審慎的態度的\n407844\t432236\t好我想相關保留跟審慎的態度我們希望透過調查報告來瞭解而不是主委一個人的主觀意見這是其他監理機關包括MIS跟美國的OCC的監理機關的首長都對外做這種宣示的好我想禁止副委託不是最好的做法金管會應該保障民眾投資國外虛擬貨幣ETF的權益尤其是合規合法的虛擬貨幣ETF的權益謝謝主席\n433677\t438163\t謝謝委員、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事\n","txt":"主席有請金管會黃主委備詢好有請黃主委委員午安午安謝謝主委您好今日特別到財委會是想就目前金管會對國外投資的一些做法也是民眾非常關心的議題來和您做討論在資訊傳播日益發達的數位社會裡頭民眾對於海外投資的興趣日漸濃厚\n根據建商工會的統計,國人投資海外市場可以說是超高速加溫,2023年的全市場副委託戶數高達465萬戶,新增戶數85萬戶,較2022年新增75萬戶,成長13%。\n顯示有不少新血加入整個市場的付委託交易量高達4.48兆元台幣兩年成長了21%其中股市交易集中在每股交易量年增15%佔比70%金管會顯然也體察民意了解到我們的國人對於多元投資商品的需求因此在113年度的施政計畫當中提到了\n開放合適的銀行針對高資產客群的理財需求提供多元化金融商品擴大金融業務範疇開放證券期貨等多元商品的投資管道來滿足多元化商品的需求短短一夜裡面就出現很多多元這兩個字對此我要向金管會表達肯定但是面對已經被國際主流市場接受的新選項尤其又是臺灣最熟悉的科技數位類別的選項\n政府作為可以說是背道而馳保守逃避而且沒有創新跟你們所說的多元根本就不一樣根據國內金融業者所做的調查報告顯示國人對於虛擬資產越來越熟悉接受度越來越高若以1為最低10為最高來看調查結果顯示無論是否持有虛擬資產民眾顯然對投資虛擬資產有一定程度的意願在1到10分裡面已經超過5了而且買過的人還會越來越想買越買越多\n今年1月10日美國證券交易委員會 宣布批准了比特幣ETF現貨交易1月10日一共有11檔比特幣ETF申請全部獲得通過這對於喜愛投資美股或虛擬資產的民眾來說是一大樂事但是很遺憾國內券商在1月23日發出公告表示收到金管會的通知\n只能透過副委託賣出連結虛擬貨幣的現貨以及期貨相關商業不可以新增委託買進受到影響的由美國以及香港市場約21檔ETF我知道目前國內的法規不允許比特幣ETF自己在台上市但是禁止國內的民眾用副委託官方推薦的方式來購買美國比特幣ETF在投資界引起了不小的反彈想請主委簡短說明\n目前禁止民眾付委託購買美國比特幣ETF的原因到底是什麼?\n現在的負委託我們允許券商能夠提供投資人投資負委託的商品都是政企局核定過的所以如果比特幣ETF為什麼不能買因為它的波動力高沒有內涵價值我想大家都有時候能想一句話不好意思我打斷您投資一定有風險基金投資有賺有賠如果價格波動大且風險高可以作為禁止理由\n金管會是不是應該定期公布各種負委託美股、衍生性金融商品的投資風險,並且根據排名將風險高的逐一禁止呢?美商超微的股票在前三個月漲了200%,是不是也要禁止啊?\n委員這分兩點跟您報告第一點我想您是專家虛擬資產沒有內涵價值第二點我們沒有說完全不行我們請券商公會在半年之內就4月底之前提出如果富委託要納入現貨ETF它的配套措施跟您的方案比特幣ETF嗎半年內嗎是好比特幣沒有內涵價值這個我想請教主委這是您的主觀認定還是做過調查報告\n內涵價值是大家有沒有做調查報告各國監理機關都是這樣認為的如果有做調查報告的話各國監理所以他認為他同意啊所以他上了ETF啊美國的報告委員打擾你美國證管會不是自願他是法院裁決他的禁止是無效的我想這個是不應該是做主觀認定的齁如果有做調查報告希望一個月內交到我們的辦公室可以嗎\n因為比特幣的產生就跟實體經濟沒有關係這是您的個人看法還是調查這是從理論跟文獻中我們應該依據您的個人看法來決定民眾要買什麼不買什麼嗎我們會後跟委員請教好希望我們可以得到相關的報告為什麼對不起這個主委我為什麼這麼這個情緒上這個非常非常的投入這樣的一個議題是因為\n大家真的非常有興趣但是如果我們沒有一個官方附委託購買的過程跟方法反而會讓許多想買比特幣ETF的民眾翻牆透過海外的券商來購買如此政府更加難以掌握民眾對美國比特幣ETF的投資情形\n券商也少了手續費的收入民眾如果跟國外券商發生了投資糾紛還要自行承擔風險甚至可能會不慎掉入詐騙的陷阱毫無保障這對政府跟民眾來說可以說是三輸甚至是全輸啦我想今晚會直接的粗暴禁止是不是有過度限制人民基本自由的嫌疑退一步來講如果直接禁止我想我們非常期待主委這邊來提出相關的報告\n同時也告訴我們到底解禁多久之後可能會開放否則接下來假設虛擬貨幣ETF越來越多元啊前兩天又上了一檔啊以太幣的現貨ETF可能也要出現啊金管會要如何因應呢我想我最後一個問題啊今天這個第一次質詢拜託也再借一分鐘好主席謝謝我想啊假設民眾真的很想購買啊現在啊意願如此高張主委會建議民眾透過什麼樣的管道購買勒\n委員我跟您報告也許我講的話您不會很高興包括美國新加坡這些監理機關其實對民眾投入虛擬資產都是持相對保留跟審慎的態度的\n好我想相關保留跟審慎的態度我們希望透過調查報告來瞭解而不是主委一個人的主觀意見這是其他監理機關包括MIS跟美國的OCC的監理機關的首長都對外做這種宣示的好我想禁止副委託不是最好的做法金管會應該保障民眾投資國外虛擬貨幣ETF的權益尤其是合規合法的虛擬貨幣ETF的權益謝謝主席\n謝謝委員、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事長、謝謝董事\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.369 --> 00:27.131\n主席有請金管會黃主委備詢好有請黃主委委員午安午安謝謝主委您好今日特別到財委會是想就目前金管會對國外投資的一些做法也是民眾非常關心的議題來和您做討論在資訊傳播日益發達的數位社會裡頭民眾對於海外投資的興趣日漸濃厚\n\n00:28.132 --> 00:34.057\n根據建商工會的統計,國人投資海外市場可以說是超高速加溫,2023年的全市場副委託戶數高達465萬戶,新增戶數85萬戶,較2022年新增75萬戶,成長13%。\n\n00:45.846 --> 01:11.975\n顯示有不少新血加入整個市場的付委託交易量高達4.48兆元台幣兩年成長了21%其中股市交易集中在每股交易量年增15%佔比70%金管會顯然也體察民意了解到我們的國人對於多元投資商品的需求因此在113年度的施政計畫當中提到了\n\n01:12.875 --> 01:41.428\n開放合適的銀行針對高資產客群的理財需求提供多元化金融商品擴大金融業務範疇開放證券期貨等多元商品的投資管道來滿足多元化商品的需求短短一夜裡面就出現很多多元這兩個字對此我要向金管會表達肯定但是面對已經被國際主流市場接受的新選項尤其又是臺灣最熟悉的科技數位類別的選項\n\n01:42.228 --> 02:10.527\n政府作為可以說是背道而馳保守逃避而且沒有創新跟你們所說的多元根本就不一樣根據國內金融業者所做的調查報告顯示國人對於虛擬資產越來越熟悉接受度越來越高若以1為最低10為最高來看調查結果顯示無論是否持有虛擬資產民眾顯然對投資虛擬資產有一定程度的意願在1到10分裡面已經超過5了而且買過的人還會越來越想買越買越多\n\n02:12.228 --> 02:37.572\n今年1月10日美國證券交易委員會宣布批准了比特幣ETF現貨交易1月10日一共有11檔比特幣ETF申請全部獲得通過這對於喜愛投資美股或虛擬資產的民眾來說是一大樂事但是很遺憾國內券商在1月23日發出公告表示收到金管會的通知\n\n02:38.032 --> 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