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00:01:11,987\n5百億韓環我算了一下大概是11億台幣那麼另外Netflix就是網飛它因為黑暗榮耀的成功也是一個韓劇那麼呢現在呢為他們帶來的收益讓他們未來接下來要投資至少超過25億美元在韓劇的拍攝換算一下今天的匯率大概至少有700\n\n4\n00:01:13,564 --> 00:01:16,967\n780幾億,言下之意就是對臺灣來講臺灣下一個世代的護國神山會不會是文創我們不知道但是來下一張我們來看一下以臺灣文創的產值來看的話在2022年的時候只有4300億但是以上個禮拜公佈的2022年度已經來到了1.09兆但是\n\n5\n00:01:37,283 --> 00:01:56,197\n我想問一下就是主委你怎麼來看臺灣文創的發展當現在全球都在用錢來砸錢製造高品質的文創的時候那麼臺灣的文創產業要怎麼樣注入新活水因為就我所了解目前的所謂的文創上市櫃的家數來講只有一家必應然後上櫃25家新櫃是10家\n\n6\n00:02:04,382 --> 00:02:16,588\n主委你知道上市的這一家必應創造是什麼時候上市的嗎?抱歉我請您知道我不太清楚我想這個證交所應該有資料對不對?請走,必應創造\n\n7\n00:02:17,659 --> 00:02:42,069\n知道嗎?我不是記得很清楚大概3、4年前吧?對,因為其實你們在去年的12月20號的時候其實有針對文創產業作為一些投資體檢以及相關上市櫃的一些說明尤其是創新版的這個部分我來告訴主委我查到的資料是2018年2018年的2月我們現在已經查到2024年了\n\n8\n00:02:46,411 --> 00:03:00,988\n那麼言下之意這5、6年當中沒有其他的文創的公司能夠有機會再上市那麼到底我們的證交所跟櫃買中心是要如何來扮演這個投資市場的敲門磚當全球現在都在透過\n\n9\n00:03:02,009 --> 00:03:17,544\n資金的挹注文創的時候那麼我想請問一下主委或者是證交所我們知道其實都有所謂的創新版我們也希望創新版能夠扮演這個領頭羊的角色但是過程當中為什麼不盡理想原因到底在哪裡\n\n10\n00:03:19,690 --> 00:03:36,717\n其實我覺得我們絕對沒有排除任何的產業那我們都希望各種產業有發展潛力都能夠在我們的交易所能夠上市那我是不是請簡董經理說明一下你們在招商過程中有沒有特別注意\n\n11\n00:03:37,649 --> 00:03:51,069\n我們在創新的這一個部分其實我們去年的成績還不錯我們已經有10家創新的公司已經掛牌市值大概有1500億左右\n\n12\n00:03:52,992 --> 00:04:18,000\n那持續有一些創新的公司他符合上市的規定那就可以來掛牌那另外交易所也對於比如說除了電子產業以外我們希望有一些新的產業能夠出來比如說數位雲端啦比如說生技啦比如說運動休閒類的整個類別我們都有在鼓勵他們來\n\n13\n00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:43,933\n因為我的時間有限委員這樣好不好我們如果委員可以我們可以多跟文化部聯繫一下看看他有沒有學的需要扶植的這種產業我們來看看怎麼樣在交易所能夠或者其他適合的場地能夠募資這樣可以嗎好其實事實上就是說我們都知道就是我非常關心這一塊那麼證交所在有關於創新版或者是在櫃板中心有關上櫃的部分所以現在\n\n14\n00:04:44,833 --> 00:05:05,384\n其實很多的文創業者或者是文創產業他們當然希望能夠透過市場資金挹注讓他們能夠壯大但是以我自己來做的這個比較就會發現在創新版的部分在財務的條件上面相對的是比較寬鬆要上櫃是比較有更多的要求但是在投資人的部分反而是上櫃\n\n15\n00:05:06,725 --> 00:05:35,245\n的部分沒有對投資有太多的要求流動性也就會比較高所以在這樣的部分當中如何讓這些所謂需要資金導入或者是需要能夠有機會進入上市或者是新櫃的部分的時候到底他們應該要諮詢誰我想這是對於很多的創從事創意或者是投資文創的人他們其實是不了解的那麼對他們來說他們要如何來徵詢這些答案呢\n\n16\n00:05:36,581 --> 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Plus他們拍一個藝能這樣的一個韓劇就投資了\n5百億韓環我算了一下大概是11億台幣那麼另外Netflix就是網飛它因為黑暗榮耀的成功也是一個韓劇那麼呢現在呢為他們帶來的收益讓他們未來接下來要投資至少超過25億美元在韓劇的拍攝換算一下今天的匯率大概至少有700\n780幾億,言下之意就是對臺灣來講臺灣下一個世代的護國神山會不會是文創我們不知道但是來下一張我們來看一下以臺灣文創的產值來看的話在2022年的時候只有4300億但是以上個禮拜公佈的2022年度已經來到了1.09兆但是\n我想問一下就是主委你怎麼來看臺灣文創的發展當現在全球都在用錢來砸錢製造高品質的文創的時候那麼臺灣的文創產業要怎麼樣注入新活水因為就我所了解目前的所謂的文創上市櫃的家數來講只有一家必應然後上櫃25家新櫃是10家\n主委你知道上市的這一家必應創造是什麼時候上市的嗎?抱歉我請您知道我不太清楚我想這個證交所應該有資料對不對?請走,必應創造\n知道嗎?我不是記得很清楚大概3、4年前吧?對,因為其實你們在去年的12月20號的時候其實有針對文創產業作為一些投資體檢以及相關上市櫃的一些說明尤其是創新版的這個部分我來告訴主委我查到的資料是2018年2018年的2月我們現在已經查到2024年了\n那麼言下之意這5、6年當中沒有其他的文創的公司能夠有機會再上市那麼到底我們的證交所跟櫃買中心是要如何來扮演這個投資市場的敲門磚當全球現在都在透過\n資金的挹注文創的時候那麼我想請問一下主委或者是證交所我們知道其實都有所謂的創新版我們也希望創新版能夠扮演這個領頭羊的角色但是過程當中為什麼不盡理想原因到底在哪裡\n其實我覺得我們絕對沒有排除任何的產業那我們都希望各種產業有發展潛力都能夠在我們的交易所能夠上市那我是不是請簡董經理說明一下你們在招商過程中有沒有特別注意\n我們在創新的這一個部分其實我們去年的成績還不錯我們已經有10家創新的公司已經掛牌市值大概有1500億左右\n那持續有一些創新的公司他符合上市的規定那就可以來掛牌那另外交易所也對於比如說除了電子產業以外我們希望有一些新的產業能夠出來比如說數位雲端啦比如說生技啦比如說運動休閒類的整個類別我們都有在鼓勵他們來\n因為我的時間有限委員這樣好不好我們如果委員可以我們可以多跟文化部聯繫一下看看他有沒有學的需要扶植的這種產業我們來看看怎麼樣在交易所能夠或者其他適合的場地能夠募資這樣可以嗎好其實事實上就是說我們都知道就是我非常關心這一塊那麼證交所在有關於創新版或者是在櫃板中心有關上櫃的部分所以現在\n其實很多的文創業者或者是文創產業他們當然希望能夠透過市場資金挹注讓他們能夠壯大但是以我自己來做的這個比較就會發現在創新版的部分在財務的條件上面相對的是比較寬鬆要上櫃是比較有更多的要求但是在投資人的部分反而是上櫃\n的部分沒有對投資有太多的要求流動性也就會比較高所以在這樣的部分當中如何讓這些所謂需要資金導入或者是需要能夠有機會進入上市或者是新櫃的部分的時候到底他們應該要諮詢誰我想這是對於很多的創從事創意或者是投資文創的人他們其實是不了解的那麼對他們來說他們要如何來徵詢這些答案呢\n我覺得因為創新版畢竟它的風險一般的版要高所以對投資人有一個限制可是去年已經政經局已經調降了它的這個資格了那委員是不是這樣子我可以也許由您來指導我們起交易所、購買中心跟相關文創產業瞭解他們的現在的情況那現在的這種創新版跟那個購買中心的這個上櫃版的這些條件還有什麼可以再去做調整的\n好,我所知道的是我曾經也希望證交所跟這個文策院能夠有多一點的聯動包括你們去年12月20號曾經有公開一個說明會而且這樣的說明會也要持續是不是會後可以給我一份報告包括去年12月20號當時說明會的狀況以及後續的狀況因為我認為其實對於文創業者一定希望能夠在不一樣的層次的市場當中能夠獲得更多的資金活水\n但是這些資金回水要怎麼樣正確的導入甚至於讓他們有機會能夠進入創新版或者是能夠上櫃對他們來講恐怕他們需要的是更多的是輔助我當然知道金管會是屬於一個金融監理但是在監理的同時如何能夠也賦予這樣的讓這個所謂能夠讓產業蓬勃然後能夠協助讓整個所謂的市場能夠健全我想這個也是金管會的責任之一\n財政委員提示\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.550 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