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00:00:49,481\n主要是為了確保這一類的食品以及這個食品的原料跟這個食品添加物符合我國的規定然後來保障我們國人的健康主要是為了這樣\n\n4\n00:01:11,934 --> 00:01:28,861\n但是我們現在去看這個蝦皮上面有一堆代購或者是平行輸入的賣家他是沒有經過這個查驗登記就在上面販售定狀膠囊狀的食品更誇張的是有業者\n\n5\n00:01:30,021 --> 00:01:48,160\n他們發現說他們準備進行查驗登記的產品那如果依國內相關規定他的食品原料還有添加物是需要做調整的不然是不符合規定不能輸入的但是這個產品呢現在卻已經有賣家在蝦皮上面在販售\n\n6\n00:01:49,421 --> 00:02:17,096\n那我們辦公室呢去年就有曾經找食藥署一起來討論這個問題那也要求食藥署要針對這個蝦皮、臉書還有LINE這些新興販售通路加以管理來要求這個平台業者應該要下架這些沒有經過茶葉登記的產品那避免說這個網路購物呢成為就是說我們食安上的另外一個破口那\n\n7\n00:02:18,738 --> 00:02:37,258\n我們也要保障國人的健康以及這個合法進口代理商的這個權益那但是就是說食藥署表示就是說有些狀況是賣家在網路平台架設廣告那消費者下訂之後呢商品是從國外再寄到台灣來那因為\n\n8\n00:02:38,980 --> 00:02:55,499\n法規它沒有禁止說自用輸入所以很難證明說這個部分是這個個人要使用的呢還是說代購自己代進台灣之後在網路上違法販售的那這些廣告因為它也沒有\n\n9\n00:02:56,519 --> 00:03:18,233\n中文標示明顯違反食安法．代理商可以就沒有中文標示的部分進行檢舉那在這個衛福部公告的這個錠狀、膠囊狀的食品因依法辦理查驗登記那當然剛剛講過目的也是為了我們國人的健康那但是面對說目前我們蝦皮、臉書還有LINE這些販售的錠狀、膠囊狀的食品食藥署卻很難說去證明\n\n10\n00:03:25,838 --> 00:03:49,654\n是自用還是違法那剛剛就後來就是建議說用這個建議這個合法的代理商以標示不符規定來進行檢舉本期是認為說這樣的方式是一個比較消極的這個做法那我是不太認同這樣那也是希望而且是在去年預算審查的時候\n\n11\n00:03:50,094 --> 00:03:50,534\n請署長先回答\n\n12\n00:04:19,594 --> 00:04:37,127\n委員好針對這個部分其實我們一直都跟平台在溝通我們希望平台也幫我們把關就是說當他這些產品要上架的話他要看到他其實已經經過我們查驗登記不過有時候有一些平台並沒有那麼配合這個確實是還需要再我們再找他們來開會\n\n13\n00:04:38,608 --> 00:04:58,014\n所以如果這些平台不配合的時候食藥署有什麼更積極的方式嗎?根本報告其實是這樣子平台的管理是一件事情因為它是涉及到就是資訊提供跟廣告的問題但是不管怎麼樣最後會有真實的實際的貨品會進來\n\n14\n00:05:01,589 --> 00:05:15,479\n對所以這些沒有經過查案登記的剛剛我提到這類的食品的話那事實上他一旦提供就就是已經違法那我是認為因為在在這個\n\n15\n00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:34,492\n平台處理一定有困難度有些架設在國外我們也沒有辦法直接從那邊去做取締如果是在國內我們倒是可以要求他下架\n\n16\n00:05:35,293 --> 00:06:03,249\n但是不管怎麼樣這種違規的產品如果到了消費者的手裡的話其實就很容易會造成傷害所以我們是希望我們會要求食藥署這邊就提高檢舉因為一定是內部人才容易找得到說他問題也比較容易能夠掌握說他這些商品到底跑到哪裡去\n\n17\n00:06:05,283 --> 00:06:19,130\n主要這個不管是檢舉查緝這個我想這個比重專注度我都希望我們在這個過去比較難抓到的這些我們要加強\n\n18\n00:06:23,072 --> 00:06:46,099\n過去監察委員林國明以及王立正委員他們在2021年10月有針對違法廣告產品不斷危害國人健康以及消費者權益有糾正了衛福部那面對這個監察院的糾正食藥署分別在2022年的8月還有2024年的1月有修正了食品安全衛生管理法第45條規定廣告處理原則\n\n19\n00:06:48,720 --> 00:07:06,609\n那希望透過這個加權的事項加重這個採取的力道嚇阻違規食品的廣告那現在的問題是在於就是說網路媒體他是非常快速的蓬勃發展那就像我剛剛先前有針對這個衛福部應該是說\n\n20\n00:07:09,751 --> 00:07:31,701\n上一屆本席也針對衛福部官員肖像被盜用的違規藥品廣告那我也質詢了幾次那最後衛福部也只能就是說很無奈表示說這些廣告IP位置都在國外查不到發不到那無法要求下架來回應我們那所以我想要請教部長如果\n\n21\n00:07:32,481 --> 00:07:53,397\n食藥署的這個加權事項加重採取的力道到最後都只能罰到廣播電視還有這個購物頻道的這些等等的媒體那這是不是變相我們有在鼓勵說業者以後都用國外的IP位置來做廣告\n\n22\n00:07:54,538 --> 00:08:18,565\n因為那個罰到的都是在國內有繳稅的嘛那反而在國外這些違法的罰不到以後大家都倒掉了業績不好然後都跑到國外去國外的這些產品的話他要送到國內給個別的消費者的時候他一定會中間有一個中間商因為他不太可能說直接從國外然後經由這一個\n\n23\n00:08:20,345 --> 00:08:25,089\n所以我剛剛提到就是我們希望就是說經由這個檢舉然後來做去查獲這樣子那就可以找得到因為這些實際上的商品是實際存在的\n\n24\n00:08:46,124 --> 00:09:12,170\n一旦讓我們破獲破獲之後的話那在處罰上面的話是蠻重的就剛剛委員提到的所以因為主要是這個監察院這個檢舉其實他也有提到就是說國內各類新興媒體持續蓬勃發展那違規食品廣告手法不斷翻新以佔各媒體廣告的這個總違規件數近六成之網站食品廣告\n\n25\n00:09:13,230 --> 00:09:36,628\n監控強度卻不及廣播、電視等傳統媒體所以我剛剛也點出這個問題啊那所以就是說針對這些新興的媒體那特別是IP位置在國外的部分那剛剛部長有特別講我們就是加強這個檢舉的部分那我也希望這些專漏洞的這些國外在IP我們是不是\n\n26\n00:09:37,929 --> 00:10:01,124\n可以就是說我也希望當然你們人力有限我也了解但是我希望說是不是我們可以就大家專注在這個部分因為確實現在大家都上蝦皮去看我覺得這些問題是比我們這個國內容易抓到這個要難度高一點但也比較嚴重啦所以我在這邊特別點出這個問題\n\n27\n00:10:02,225 --> 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我們再找他們來開會\n278608\t298014\t所以如果這些平台不配合的時候食藥署有什麼更積極的方式嗎?根本報告其實是這樣子平台的管理是一件事情因為它是涉及到就是資訊提供跟廣告的問題但是不管怎麼樣最後會有真實的實際的貨品會進來\n301589\t315479\t對所以這些沒有經過查案登記的剛剛我提到這類的食品的話那事實上他一旦提供就就是已經違法那我是認為因為在在這個\n317560\t334492\t平台處理一定有困難度有些架設在國外我們也沒有辦法直接從那邊去做取締如果是在國內我們倒是可以要求他下架\n335293\t363249\t但是不管怎麼樣這種違規的產品如果到了消費者的手裡的話其實就很容易會造成傷害所以我們是希望我們會要求食藥署這邊就提高檢舉因為一定是內部人才容易找得到說他問題也比較容易能夠掌握說他這些商品到底跑到哪裡去\n365283\t379130\t主要這個不管是檢舉查緝這個我想這個比重專注度我都希望我們在這個過去比較難抓到的這些我們要加強\n383072\t406099\t過去監察委員林國明以及王立正委員他們在2021年10月有針對違法廣告產品不斷危害國人健康以及消費者權益有糾正了衛福部那面對這個監察院的糾正食藥署分別在2022年的8月還有2024年的1月有修正了食品安全衛生管理法第45條規定廣告處理原則\n408720\t426609\t那希望透過這個加權的事項加重這個採取的力道嚇阻違規食品的廣告那現在的問題是在於就是說網路媒體他是非常快速的蓬勃發展那就像我剛剛先前有針對這個衛福部應該是說\n429751\t451701\t上一屆本席也針對衛福部官員肖像被盜用的違規藥品廣告那我也質詢了幾次那最後衛福部也只能就是說很無奈表示說這些廣告IP位置都在國外查不到發不到那無法要求下架來回應我們那所以我想要請教部長如果\n452481\t473397\t食藥署的這個加權事項加重採取的力道到最後都只能罰到廣播電視還有這個購物頻道的這些等等的媒體那這是不是變相我們有在鼓勵說業者以後都用國外的IP位置來做廣告\n474538\t498565\t因為那個罰到的都是在國內有繳稅的嘛那反而在國外這些違法的罰不到以後大家都倒掉了業績不好然後都跑到國外去國外的這些產品的話他要送到國內給個別的消費者的時候他一定會中間有一個中間商因為他不太可能說直接從國外然後經由這一個\n500345\t505089\t所以我剛剛提到就是我們希望就是說經由這個檢舉然後來做去查獲這樣子那就可以找得到因為這些實際上的商品是實際存在的\n526124\t552170\t一旦讓我們破獲破獲之後的話那在處罰上面的話是蠻重的就剛剛委員提到的所以因為主要是這個監察院這個檢舉其實他也有提到就是說國內各類新興媒體持續蓬勃發展那違規食品廣告手法不斷翻新以佔各媒體廣告的這個總違規件數近六成之網站食品廣告\n553230\t576628\t監控強度卻不及廣播、電視等傳統媒體所以我剛剛也點出這個問題啊那所以就是說針對這些新興的媒體那特別是IP位置在國外的部分那剛剛部長有特別講我們就是加強這個檢舉的部分那我也希望這些專漏洞的這些國外在IP我們是不是\n577929\t601124\t可以就是說我也希望當然你們人力有限我也了解但是我希望說是不是我們可以就大家專注在這個部分因為確實現在大家都上蝦皮去看我覺得這些問題是比我們這個國內容易抓到這個要難度高一點但也比較嚴重啦所以我在這邊特別點出這個問題\n602225\t628397\t所以我們的意思就是說不要太過執著在那個要去查廣告而是必須要查實體實體的東西查才比較有機會去查得到那這個如果透過這個檢舉讓我們查到我們可以把這些處罰的這個金額的話的一部分都要當成這個檢舉獎金那這樣子的檢舉獎金的額度就會很高\n629568\t646735\t好,那可以來鼓勵民眾來做檢舉。好,那謝謝部長的回應。那我們也給食藥署加油啦。大家辛苦。那希望說我提的這個專注在,可以更專注在這邊。好,謝謝。好,謝謝。\n","txt":"慢慢請部長好 請部長委員好\n部長好依照現行的規定那個輸入一般食品不需要先做預先做審查但是輸入這個錠狀還有膠囊狀的食品就要先向食藥署辦理這個查驗的案子那個什麼健康食品健康食品一般的食品那但是呢\n主要是為了確保這一類的食品以及這個食品的原料跟這個食品添加物符合我國的規定然後來保障我們國人的健康主要是為了這樣\n但是我們現在去看這個蝦皮上面有一堆代購或者是平行輸入的賣家他是沒有經過這個查驗登記就在上面販售定狀膠囊狀的食品更誇張的是有業者\n他們發現說他們準備進行查驗登記的產品那如果依國內相關規定他的食品原料還有添加物是需要做調整的不然是不符合規定不能輸入的但是這個產品呢現在卻已經有賣家在蝦皮上面在販售\n那我們辦公室呢去年就有曾經找食藥署一起來討論這個問題那也要求食藥署要針對這個蝦皮、臉書還有LINE這些新興販售通路加以管理來要求這個平台業者應該要下架這些沒有經過茶葉登記的產品那避免說這個網路購物呢成為就是說我們食安上的另外一個破口那\n我們也要保障國人的健康以及這個合法進口代理商的這個權益那但是就是說食藥署表示就是說有些狀況是賣家在網路平台架設廣告那消費者下訂之後呢商品是從國外再寄到台灣來那因為\n法規它沒有禁止說自用輸入所以很難證明說這個部分是這個個人要使用的呢還是說代購自己代進台灣之後在網路上違法販售的那這些廣告因為它也沒有\n中文標示明顯違反食安法．代理商可以就沒有中文標示的部分進行檢舉那在這個衛福部公告的這個錠狀、膠囊狀的食品因依法辦理查驗登記那當然剛剛講過目的也是為了我們國人的健康那但是面對說目前我們蝦皮、臉書還有LINE這些販售的錠狀、膠囊狀的食品食藥署卻很難說去證明\n是自用還是違法那剛剛就後來就是建議說用這個建議這個合法的代理商以標示不符規定來進行檢舉本期是認為說這樣的方式是一個比較消極的這個做法那我是不太認同這樣那也是希望而且是在去年預算審查的時候\n請署長先回答\n委員好 針對這個部分其實我們一直都跟平台在溝通我們希望平台也幫我們把關就是說當他這些產品要上架的話他要看到他其實已經經過我們查驗登記不過有時候有一些平台並沒有那麼配合這個確實是還需要再 我們再找他們來開會\n所以如果這些平台不配合的時候食藥署有什麼更積極的方式嗎?根本報告其實是這樣子平台的管理是一件事情因為它是涉及到就是資訊提供跟廣告的問題但是不管怎麼樣最後會有真實的實際的貨品會進來\n對所以這些沒有經過查案登記的剛剛我提到這類的食品的話那事實上他一旦提供就就是已經違法那我是認為因為在在這個\n平台處理一定有困難度有些架設在國外我們也沒有辦法直接從那邊去做取締如果是在國內我們倒是可以要求他下架\n但是不管怎麼樣這種違規的產品如果到了消費者的手裡的話其實就很容易會造成傷害所以我們是希望我們會要求食藥署這邊就提高檢舉因為一定是內部人才容易找得到說他問題也比較容易能夠掌握說他這些商品到底跑到哪裡去\n主要這個不管是檢舉查緝這個我想這個比重專注度我都希望我們在這個過去比較難抓到的這些我們要加強\n過去監察委員林國明以及王立正委員他們在2021年10月有針對違法廣告產品不斷危害國人健康以及消費者權益有糾正了衛福部那面對這個監察院的糾正食藥署分別在2022年的8月還有2024年的1月有修正了食品安全衛生管理法第45條規定廣告處理原則\n那希望透過這個加權的事項加重這個採取的力道嚇阻違規食品的廣告那現在的問題是在於就是說網路媒體他是非常快速的蓬勃發展那就像我剛剛先前有針對這個衛福部應該是說\n上一屆本席也針對衛福部官員肖像被盜用的違規藥品廣告那我也質詢了幾次那最後衛福部也只能就是說很無奈表示說這些廣告IP位置都在國外查不到發不到那無法要求下架來回應我們那所以我想要請教部長如果\n食藥署的這個加權事項加重採取的力道到最後都只能罰到廣播電視還有這個購物頻道的這些等等的媒體那這是不是變相我們有在鼓勵說業者以後都用國外的IP位置來做廣告\n因為那個罰到的都是在國內有繳稅的嘛那反而在國外這些違法的罰不到以後大家都倒掉了業績不好然後都跑到國外去國外的這些產品的話他要送到國內給個別的消費者的時候他一定會中間有一個中間商因為他不太可能說直接從國外然後經由這一個\n所以我剛剛提到就是我們希望就是說經由這個檢舉然後來做去查獲這樣子那就可以找得到因為這些實際上的商品是實際存在的\n一旦讓我們破獲破獲之後的話那在處罰上面的話是蠻重的就剛剛委員提到的所以因為主要是這個監察院這個檢舉其實他也有提到就是說國內各類新興媒體持續蓬勃發展那違規食品廣告手法不斷翻新以佔各媒體廣告的這個總違規件數近六成之網站食品廣告\n監控強度卻不及廣播、電視等傳統媒體所以我剛剛也點出這個問題啊那所以就是說針對這些新興的媒體那特別是IP位置在國外的部分那剛剛部長有特別講我們就是加強這個檢舉的部分那我也希望這些專漏洞的這些國外在IP我們是不是\n可以就是說我也希望當然你們人力有限我也了解但是我希望說是不是我們可以就大家專注在這個部分因為確實現在大家都上蝦皮去看我覺得這些問題是比我們這個國內容易抓到這個要難度高一點但也比較嚴重啦所以我在這邊特別點出這個問題\n所以我們的意思就是說不要太過執著在那個要去查廣告而是必須要查實體實體的東西查才比較有機會去查得到那這個如果透過這個檢舉讓我們查到我們可以把這些處罰的這個金額的話的一部分都要當成這個檢舉獎金那這樣子的檢舉獎金的額度就會很高\n好,那可以來鼓勵民眾來做檢舉。好,那謝謝部長的回應。那我們也給食藥署加油啦。大家辛苦。那希望說我提的這個專注在,可以更專注在這邊。好,謝謝。好,謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.889 --> 00:10.694\n慢慢請部長好請部長委員好\n\n00:17.063 --> 00:41.694\n部長好依照現行的規定那個輸入一般食品不需要先做預先做審查但是輸入這個錠狀還有膠囊狀的食品就要先向食藥署辦理這個查驗的案子那個什麼健康食品健康食品一般的食品那但是呢\n\n00:44.138 --> 00:49.481\n主要是為了確保這一類的食品以及這個食品的原料跟這個食品添加物符合我國的規定然後來保障我們國人的健康主要是為了這樣\n\n01:11.934 --> 01:28.861\n但是我們現在去看這個蝦皮上面有一堆代購或者是平行輸入的賣家他是沒有經過這個查驗登記就在上面販售定狀膠囊狀的食品更誇張的是有業者\n\n01:30.021 --> 01:48.160\n他們發現說他們準備進行查驗登記的產品那如果依國內相關規定他的食品原料還有添加物是需要做調整的不然是不符合規定不能輸入的但是這個產品呢現在卻已經有賣家在蝦皮上面在販售\n\n01:49.421 --> 02:17.096\n那我們辦公室呢去年就有曾經找食藥署一起來討論這個問題那也要求食藥署要針對這個蝦皮、臉書還有LINE這些新興販售通路加以管理來要求這個平台業者應該要下架這些沒有經過茶葉登記的產品那避免說這個網路購物呢成為就是說我們食安上的另外一個破口那\n\n02:18.738 --> 02:37.258\n我們也要保障國人的健康以及這個合法進口代理商的這個權益那但是就是說食藥署表示就是說有些狀況是賣家在網路平台架設廣告那消費者下訂之後呢商品是從國外再寄到台灣來那因為\n\n02:38.980 --> 02:55.499\n法規它沒有禁止說自用輸入所以很難證明說這個部分是這個個人要使用的呢還是說代購自己代進台灣之後在網路上違法販售的那這些廣告因為它也沒有\n\n02:56.519 --> 03:18.233\n中文標示明顯違反食安法．代理商可以就沒有中文標示的部分進行檢舉那在這個衛福部公告的這個錠狀、膠囊狀的食品因依法辦理查驗登記那當然剛剛講過目的也是為了我們國人的健康那但是面對說目前我們蝦皮、臉書還有LINE這些販售的錠狀、膠囊狀的食品食藥署卻很難說去證明\n\n03:25.838 --> 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