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00:02:37,289\n那我想請問,我們食安,我們以後都是採降SOP嗎?要看它的風險,產品的風險,風險高的就需要這樣子所以按照這樣的一個,我們當我們要把食安的漏洞能夠快速的去掌控的時候\n\n8\n00:02:38,169 --> 00:02:46,824\n立刻查驗到立刻採取動作其實就是SOP嗎所以我們就回到來下一頁我們再看這個視頻很多\n\n9\n00:02:51,243 --> 00:03:13,751\n也就是在台糖瘦肉精的部分這個當然討論非常非常多次那麼我們陳建仁院長特別提到的是你瘦肉精沒有給台糖15天的復驗的時間那同樣蘇丹紅我們現在修改相關辦法業者也可以跟你講說你怎麼沒有給我復驗時間\n\n10\n00:03:15,706 --> 00:03:44,495\n是不是所以如果現在是對的那麼之前在瘦肉精的部分院長講說你要給台堂15天申請復驗啊怎麼立刻就公佈了那這樣的程序不就是錯的了嗎跟委員報告這15天可以來申請復驗這是在法律的一個規定的所以不管是瘦肉精還是蘇丹紅蘇丹紅同樣這一個廠商也可以來申請復驗\n\n11\n00:03:45,663 --> 00:03:59,550\n可是他立刻要停止進口喔?你有採取立即措施嗎?採取立即措施是為了安全預防的起見但是他是可以申請復驗申請復驗的時候他就需要有樣本可以讓他來復驗\n\n12\n00:04:02,230 --> 00:04:07,532\n所以我現在問你的是按照蘇丹紅這個狀況任何公司你被驗出之後雲林縣政府驗出立刻發布對不對這個是本來\n\n13\n00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:31,622\n發佈不發佈是由這個地方政府．因為縣政府很正確\n\n14\n00:04:32,864 --> 00:04:58,137\n我們沒有說他不正確我們只是說他應該要小心因為第一次驗到那種從來沒有驗過的東西部長因為我也不想耽誤其他我們委員質詢的時間我的要我的要點就是食安問題不要因為政治性考量給他雙標你看我這兩個你台中市政府立刻發布預警你們覺得他有問題\n\n15\n00:04:59,458 --> 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