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00:02:41,220\n那我們再來討論看看時間有沒有辦法再往前一點那這次還是要跟他們做一些溝通你今天從組織法完了之後不是組織法過了就OK欸是那還要配合有第二階段的修法對啊你還有修法欸沒有錯那第二階段的修法會在下個會期裡面提出來你都在下個會期組織法也在下個會期修法也在下個會期奈乎啦\n\n8\n00:02:42,878 --> 00:03:10,992\n您有一個專法耶!是不是?您有一個專法耶!其實我們打架無法說真的在去年把它推出之後響噹噹可是其實裡面有很多是完全沒辦法去做處理的啊!一定要有專法所以我們現在在各自的部分就是要用各自委員會保護委員會去做一個平台去執行嘛!好那我再問\n\n9\n00:03:12,213 --> 00:03:31,380\n那各自外洩的管制怎麼處理?各自外洩現在我們有一個跨部會的一個平台在做機制嘛行政院下面各個目的事業主管主管假如有通報或他們直接他有跟平常跟事件發生這個平台有什麼用?這個平台有什麼用?各自還是在外洩啊?現在看到的\n\n10\n00:03:38,191 --> 00:04:04,065\n有一些就是至少有去處理啊有一些處理的方式各自外洩我們明明從我們手中不論是手機、簡訊甚至是網路我們都常常聽到民眾在說我的各自被外洩但是呢我們各自外洩的查緝案件就一件就一件\n\n11\n00:04:06,113 --> 00:04:14,722\n這好像跟我們實際感受的、民眾所感受的相差有一點距離啊。什麼叫重大事件?\n\n12\n00:04:30,746 --> 00:04:30,886\n今天﹖\n\n13\n00:04:42,782 --> 00:05:11,123\n有一個單位把個資露出去請他露到什麼程度叫做重大事件還是他要影響到國安才叫做重大事件你要把這個標準定出來啊是沒有錯否則你這個平台在幹什麼你這個平台從過去到現在民眾感受我常常在講從選舉前到選舉後對就是說這一個握有這些個資的這個這個機構也好或是公司也好他握有多少\n\n14\n00:05:13,466 --> 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