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good news but also bad news，好消息是很多人來申請這個機會，供不應求；但bad 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00:01:18,098\n當然,我們民進黨這屆,我們對於公務員的調薪是,漲幅是15年來最高。不論在漲幅,或者是在調薪的次數,蔡英文總統都做得比馬英九總統更加用心。也不過,我們替我們的公務人員在進出更加好的福利之果。\n\n4\n00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:32,926\n我們的辭職率這是我整理出來的最新的數字到2022我們的辭職率是一年一年的攀升從20191994人到2022已經來到2496人將近到2500這起辭職率就是我的這個所謂的鐵飯碗我都不要了\n\n5\n00:01:45,552 --> 00:01:51,119\n那當然我們人事總處有針對辭職原因做一些調研：我認為我們現有對於公務同仁的辭職原因我們做的那樣的一個調查分析實在是非常的rough\n\n6\n00:02:01,753 --> 00:02:15,945\n例如說這是你們2022做的調查好80%個人因素離開4.17%工作不適應管理的不當2.12待遇福利覺得不夠好的是1.6所以這是一個\n\n7\n00:02:17,446 --> 00:02:35,399\n認為公務體系待遇福利不好而離開的人只有1.6%代表也驗證我們這幾年照顧公務人員是有留人也留心這是一個好的政策工具盡可能滿足大家在待遇上的需求那當然有人是個人的職癌發展1.12%他選擇離開了公務體系我在這裡我直接拋出來就是預防我們的辭職\n\n8\n00:02:43,365 --> 00:02:43,385\n吳思瑤議員\n\n9\n00:02:56,636 --> 00:03:14,981\n非常謝謝委員的這個意見事實上我們也非常關注這個議題因為這個資料庫的維護是在全序部我們過去有跟他溝通幾次他那個辭職原因有時那個寫的理由太冷了要寫得比較柔和寫得比較柔和我要統計分析才能夠比較明確不經常說\n\n10\n00:03:24,284 --> 00:03:24,944\n對,因為我們很多分析來自於這個顆粒業系我們分析得越精準\n\n11\n00:03:47,491 --> 00:04:08,105\n下一頁就是自殺數這是非常遺憾十一年來我們的公務員自殺案件都是雙位數包括2023年有22位公務人員選擇親生而離開新聞非常多包括前幾天在總統府前的憲兵他也自殘了\n\n12\n00:04:09,105 --> 00:04:18,269\n雖然憲兵不是我們公務體系您這裡掌管但都呈現了我們的心理健康機制不要漏接每一個生命\n\n13\n00:04:25,132 --> 00:04:51,554\n人總在有一個員工協助方案你應該是一個上位的guideline然後讓各部會去執行對不對那我看到的問題是我們依行政院所屬及地方機關的這個協助方案裡頭提供心理諮商啦身心健康座談啦保健醫療資訊啦還有健康評量檢測健康促進活動等等這個guideline\n\n14\n00:04:53,375 --> 00:05:06,352\n實在有夠guideline你沒有管考沒有細緻到去follow各個部會誰做得好誰做得不夠我來分享我教育部門的做法好嗎下一頁教育部有很好的經驗譬如說2021年教育部就依據你的這個Guideline\n\n15\n00:05:11,258 --> 00:05:11,278\n：吳思瑤\n\n16\n00:05:31,297 --> 00:05:51,409\n所以藉經教育部的這個制度也是思瑤長期來協力的我們甚至修了教師法33條就明定了教育部應當本於照顧教職員工建立教師諮詢諮商的輔導支持體系我們在法規面有法源組織面就成立了我剛剛說的專責單位2021年成立的\n\n17\n00:05:54,711 --> 00:06:17,472\n在預算面呢,我們甚至加碼去針對第一線的教職老師們從原先教育部每年補助地方政府650萬,現在一年提高到6000萬。所以我被群聽這次有報的制度就是說,同樣的一個概念,有的部會很認真去做。當然教育部看到很多老師他承受的這個教學現場的教學壓力。\n\n18\n00:06:19,704 --> 00:06:20,324\n週一我才就叫過司法院的秘書長\n\n19\n00:06:48,540 --> 00:07:05,525\n司法人員他的這個高壓也絕對是大家可以想像的他要承受很多審判當中生離死別判人重判人輕那個永遠在糾葛人都是感情做的都是肉做的都是血溶成的\n\n20\n00:07:06,005 --> 00:07:29,643\n所以司法院也看到體恤他所有的司法人員的工作壓力所以推出司法院的心理健康關懷方案2019上路到現在每年有729人次去使用這樣一個心理健康方案而且他非常優渥跟人事長報告每人每次補助2500元可以去做心理諮商一年可以到8次\n\n21\n00:07:30,745 --> 00:07:39,366\n這是司法院在照顧司法人員的心理健康好再下一頁那這個是蔡總統的五大心理健康方案\n\n22\n00:07:40,624 --> 00:08:08,979\n這已經是溢出於我們公務體系之外是全民我們針對了15到30歲的青年族群每年給三次的心理諮商每次一千六然後一年三次這個預算一直加碼因為我們it'sgoodnewsbutalsobadnews好消息是很多人供不應求來來申請這個機會但badnews就是我們真的真真切切看到很多年輕世代他需要心理諮商的幫忙\n\n23\n00:08:10,530 --> 00:08:36,815\n這是國家在做的事情照顧年輕人剛剛教育部照顧老師司法院照顧司法人員下一頁這是我擔任委員這麼多年我非常有成就感的一個政策的協力跟催生我成功的協助倡議各個大學具有心理價這樣一個新的價別從我第一次兩年前2022年站上質詢台質詢所有\n\n24\n00:08:40,928 --> 00:08:48,797\n公立大學包括技職校院的校長們那個時候只有兩個學校有行李架就是實踐大學跟中山大學\n\n25\n00:08:49,724 --> 00:09:13,764\n一年多到現在已經有43所大學設立了心理健康假而心理假不是只讓學生放假而已他是可以讓這個三級處遇的機制可以接住誰請心理假就知道這個可能最近失戀囉這個可能最近爸媽吵架學校要介入一下讓這個三級的心腹制度能夠有預警\n\n26\n00:09:14,665 --> 00:09:43,428\n這是心理假最正向的意義所以43所大學上路了現在各大學都持續在推動它成為一個校園的運動照顧心理健康關懷你身邊的每一個人心靈生病跟身體生病是一樣要等同關切的而且它有連帶關係好老幾樣然後我們進一步教育部現在最新的制度是現在開始3月開始高中職也開始來做心理假\n\n27\n00:09:44,830 --> 00:10:01,109\n所以我做了這麼多分享您當知道我想要請你們回去研議的就是下一頁現在公務人員的各式價別有這麼多當然市價、病價、婚價、產前價、商價這個流產價、家庭照顧價包括女性的生理價\n\n28\n00:10:02,290 --> 00:10:29,764\n2013年我們也是一步一步去爭取到女性不要對我的流血來逼我上班我們經痛的時候那是愛被救護很痛苦所以生理假是一個進步的我們2013年上路了甚至2014年我們完成了配套的修法那next心理假來人事長下一頁曾經有立委提過我自己也會提案\n\n29\n00:10:30,683 --> 00:10:31,084\n市長,您覺得如何?\n\n30\n00:10:47,711 --> 00:10:47,731\n吳思瑤議員\n\n31\n00:11:08,918 --> 00:11:09,558\n我會用比較開放的方式來討論\n\n32\n00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:59,836\n我希望你們趕快啟動研議啦我自己也會提案那我們用生理假的方式來衍生或者是用一般價別的經驗來衍生就以這個是2018年廖國棟委員所提的公務員服務法他的第一項我覺得是可以接受的就心理健康假每個月一次然後呢請年假全年請假日數未逾三日不病入病假\n\n33\n00:12:00,556 --> 00:12:01,217\n其餘可並入並駕。\n\n34\n00:12:24,258 --> 00:12:50,669\n我們會關心你今天感冒了有看醫生嗎?有吃藥嗎?但是我們總是令於給身旁的人一個很正向的心理的關懷那心理架真的不是給大家另外一個架別的好康寧不是是讓我們能夠藉由這個架去接住每一個我們要接住的人所以你能夠去研究我如果在你遇到我自己也拿這個案\n\n35\n00:12:51,949 --> 00:12:52,169\n吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員\n\n36\n00:13:21,664 --> 00:13:24,787\n我希望我們都跟上蔡英文總統全民一起來促進心理健康這樣一個對的政策健康起來當然我也很期待我們國會也要健康起來\n\n37\n00:13:43,268 --> 00:13:55,793\n希望大家未來來備詢面對理性專業的立法委員大家心情是愉悅的也希望私要的質詢可以換得大家的一抹微笑好不好我持續為大家發聲一起加油謝謝好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2056\t29629\t謝謝主席人事長：我們所有人事總處的同仁大家早安大家辛苦了人事長你好我們都是台南鄉親人親土親我是司法及法制委員會的蔡佳娃事由在這次有什麼不正確的地方歡迎您隨時指正我絕對不會說你在藐視國會我想我們質詢是平起平坐大家來做一個正向的政策之間的辯論\n31029\t55682\t這是一個健康的、歡迎應當的態度所以今天我要就教於您照顧好公務員是您很重要的這個人事總處的責任那我要跟您拋出我過去在教育文化委員會我長期投入的心理諮商的機制跟心理架這一個新的概念在中華民國的公務體系能不能夠更進一步的獲得實現下一頁\n58923\t78098\t當然,我們民進黨這屆,我們對於公務員的調薪是,漲幅是15年來最高。不論在漲幅,或者是在調薪的次數,蔡英文總統都做得比馬英九總統更加用心。也不過,我們替我們的公務人員在進出更加好的福利之果。\n79159\t92926\t我們的辭職率這是我整理出來的最新的數字到2022我們的辭職率是一年一年的攀升從2019 1994人到2022已經來到2496人將近到2500這起辭職率就是我的這個所謂的鐵飯碗我都不要了\n105552\t111119\t那當然我們人事總處有針對辭職原因做一些調研：我認為我們現有對於公務同仁的辭職原因我們做的那樣的一個調查分析實在是非常的rough\n121753\t135945\t例如說這是你們2022做的調查好80%個人因素離開4.17%工作不適應管理的不當2.12待遇福利覺得不夠好的是1.6所以這是一個\n137446\t155399\t認為公務體系待遇福利不好而離開的人只有1.6%代表也驗證我們這幾年照顧公務人員是有留人也留心這是一個好的政策工具盡可能滿足大家在待遇上的需求那當然有人是個人的職癌發展1.12%他選擇離開了公務體系我在這裡我直接拋出來就是預防我們的辭職\n163365\t163385\t吳思瑤議員\n176636\t194981\t非常謝謝委員的這個意見事實上我們也非常關注這個議題因為這個資料庫的維護是在全序部我們過去有跟他溝通幾次他那個辭職原因有時那個寫的理由太冷了要寫得比較柔和寫得比較柔和我要統計分析才能夠比較明確不經常說\n204284\t204944\t對,因為我們很多分析來自於這個顆粒業系我們分析得越精準\n227491\t248105\t下一頁就是自殺數這是非常遺憾十一年來我們的公務員自殺案件都是雙位數包括2023年有22位公務人員選擇親生而離開新聞非常多包括前幾天在總統府前的憲兵他也自殘了\n249105\t258269\t雖然憲兵不是我們公務體系您這裡掌管但都呈現了我們的心理健康機制不要漏接每一個生命\n265132\t291554\t人總在有一個員工協助方案你應該是一個上位的guideline然後讓各部會去執行對不對那我看到的問題是我們依行政院所屬及地方機關的這個協助方案裡頭提供心理諮商啦身心健康座談啦保健醫療資訊啦還有健康評量檢測健康促進活動等等這個guideline\n293375\t306352\t實在有夠guideline你沒有管考沒有細緻到去follow各個部會誰做得好誰做得不夠我來分享我教育部門的做法好嗎下一頁教育部有很好的經驗譬如說2021年教育部就依據你的這個Guideline\n311258\t311278\t：吳思瑤\n331297\t351409\t所以藉經教育部的這個制度也是思瑤長期來協力的我們甚至修了教師法33條就明定了教育部應當本於照顧教職員工建立教師諮詢諮商的輔導支持體系我們在法規面有法源組織面就成立了我剛剛說的專責單位2021年成立的\n354711\t377472\t在預算面呢,我們甚至加碼去針對第一線的教職老師們從原先教育部每年補助地方政府650萬,現在一年提高到6000萬。所以我被群聽這次有報的制度就是說,同樣的一個概念,有的部會很認真去做。當然教育部看到很多老師他承受的這個教學現場的教學壓力。\n379704\t380324\t週一我才就叫過司法院的秘書長\n408540\t425525\t司法人員他的這個高壓也絕對是大家可以想像的他要承受很多審判當中生離死別判人重判人輕那個永遠在糾葛人都是感情做的都是肉做的都是血溶成的\n426005\t449643\t所以司法院也看到體恤他所有的司法人員的工作壓力所以推出司法院的心理健康關懷方案2019上路到現在每年有729人次去使用這樣一個心理健康方案而且他非常優渥跟人事長報告每人每次補助2500元可以去做心理諮商一年可以到8次\n450745\t459366\t這是司法院在照顧司法人員的心理健康好再下一頁那這個是蔡總統的五大心理健康方案\n460624\t488979\t這已經是溢出於我們公務體系之外是全民我們針對了15到30歲的青年族群每年給三次的心理諮商每次一千六然後一年三次這個預算一直加碼因為我們it's good newsbut also bad news好消息是很多人供不應求來來申請這個機會但bad news就是我們真的真真切切看到很多年輕世代他需要心理諮商的幫忙\n490530\t516815\t這是國家在做的事情照顧年輕人剛剛教育部照顧老師司法院照顧司法人員下一頁這是我擔任委員這麼多年我非常有成就感的一個政策的協力跟催生我成功的協助倡議各個大學具有心理價這樣一個新的價別從我第一次兩年前2022年站上質詢台質詢所有\n520928\t528797\t公立大學包括技職校院的校長們那個時候只有兩個學校有行李架就是實踐大學跟中山大學\n529724\t553764\t一年多到現在已經有43所大學設立了心理健康假而心理假不是只讓學生放假而已他是可以讓這個三級處遇的機制可以接住誰請心理假就知道這個可能最近失戀囉這個可能最近爸媽吵架學校要介入一下讓這個三級的心腹制度能夠有預警\n554665\t583428\t這是心理假最正向的意義所以43所大學上路了現在各大學都持續在推動它成為一個校園的運動照顧心理健康關懷你身邊的每一個人心靈生病跟身體生病是一樣要等同關切的而且它有連帶關係好 老幾樣然後我們進一步教育部現在最新的制度是現在開始3月開始高中職也開始來做心理假\n584830\t601109\t所以我做了這麼多分享您當知道我想要請你們回去研議的就是下一頁現在公務人員的各式價別有這麼多當然市價、病價、婚價、產前價、商價這個流產價、家庭照顧價包括女性的生理價\n602290\t629764\t2013年我們也是一步一步去爭取到女性不要對我的流血來逼我上班我們經痛的時候那是愛被救護很痛苦所以生理假是一個進步的我們2013年上路了甚至2014年我們完成了配套的修法那next心理假來人事長下一頁曾經有立委提過我自己也會提案\n630683\t631084\t市長,您覺得如何?\n647711\t647731\t吳思瑤議員\n668918\t669558\t我會用比較開放的方式來討論\n691880\t719836\t我希望你們趕快啟動研議啦我自己也會提案那我們用生理假的方式來衍生或者是用一般價別的經驗來衍生就以這個是2018年廖國棟委員所提的公務員服務法他的第一項我覺得是可以接受的就心理健康假每個月一次然後呢請年假全年請假日數未逾三日不病入病假\n720556\t721217\t其餘可並入並駕。\n744258\t770669\t我們會關心你今天感冒了有看醫生嗎?有吃藥嗎?但是我們總是令於給身旁的人一個很正向的心理的關懷那心理架真的不是給大家另外一個架別的好康寧不是是讓我們能夠藉由這個架去接住每一個我們要接住的人所以你能夠去研究我如果在你遇到我自己也拿這個案\n771949\t772169\t吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員\n801664\t804787\t我希望我們都跟上蔡英文總統全民一起來促進心理健康這樣一個對的政策健康起來當然我也很期待我們國會也要健康起來\n823268\t835793\t希望大家未來來備詢面對理性專業的立法委員大家心情是愉悅的也希望私要的質詢可以換得大家的一抹微笑好不好我持續為大家發聲一起加油謝謝好謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席人事長：我們所有人事總處的同仁大家早安大家辛苦了人事長你好我們都是台南鄉親人親土親我是司法及法制委員會的蔡佳娃事由在這次有什麼不正確的地方歡迎您隨時指正我絕對不會說你在藐視國會我想我們質詢是平起平坐大家來做一個正向的政策之間的辯論\n這是一個健康的、歡迎應當的態度所以今天我要就教於您照顧好公務員是您很重要的這個人事總處的責任那我要跟您拋出我過去在教育文化委員會我長期投入的心理諮商的機制跟心理架這一個新的概念在中華民國的公務體系能不能夠更進一步的獲得實現下一頁\n當然,我們民進黨這屆,我們對於公務員的調薪是,漲幅是15年來最高。不論在漲幅,或者是在調薪的次數,蔡英文總統都做得比馬英九總統更加用心。也不過,我們替我們的公務人員在進出更加好的福利之果。\n我們的辭職率這是我整理出來的最新的數字到2022我們的辭職率是一年一年的攀升從2019 1994人到2022已經來到2496人將近到2500這起辭職率就是我的這個所謂的鐵飯碗我都不要了\n那當然我們人事總處有針對辭職原因做一些調研：我認為我們現有對於公務同仁的辭職原因我們做的那樣的一個調查分析實在是非常的rough\n例如說這是你們2022做的調查好80%個人因素離開4.17%工作不適應管理的不當2.12待遇福利覺得不夠好的是1.6所以這是一個\n認為公務體系待遇福利不好而離開的人只有1.6%代表也驗證我們這幾年照顧公務人員是有留人也留心這是一個好的政策工具盡可能滿足大家在待遇上的需求那當然有人是個人的職癌發展1.12%他選擇離開了公務體系我在這裡我直接拋出來就是預防我們的辭職\n吳思瑤議員\n非常謝謝委員的這個意見事實上我們也非常關注這個議題因為這個資料庫的維護是在全序部我們過去有跟他溝通幾次他那個辭職原因有時那個寫的理由太冷了要寫得比較柔和寫得比較柔和我要統計分析才能夠比較明確不經常說\n對,因為我們很多分析來自於這個顆粒業系我們分析得越精準\n下一頁就是自殺數這是非常遺憾十一年來我們的公務員自殺案件都是雙位數包括2023年有22位公務人員選擇親生而離開新聞非常多包括前幾天在總統府前的憲兵他也自殘了\n雖然憲兵不是我們公務體系您這裡掌管但都呈現了我們的心理健康機制不要漏接每一個生命\n人總在有一個員工協助方案你應該是一個上位的guideline然後讓各部會去執行對不對那我看到的問題是我們依行政院所屬及地方機關的這個協助方案裡頭提供心理諮商啦身心健康座談啦保健醫療資訊啦還有健康評量檢測健康促進活動等等這個guideline\n實在有夠guideline你沒有管考沒有細緻到去follow各個部會誰做得好誰做得不夠我來分享我教育部門的做法好嗎下一頁教育部有很好的經驗譬如說2021年教育部就依據你的這個Guideline\n：吳思瑤\n所以藉經教育部的這個制度也是思瑤長期來協力的我們甚至修了教師法33條就明定了教育部應當本於照顧教職員工建立教師諮詢諮商的輔導支持體系我們在法規面有法源組織面就成立了我剛剛說的專責單位2021年成立的\n在預算面呢,我們甚至加碼去針對第一線的教職老師們從原先教育部每年補助地方政府650萬,現在一年提高到6000萬。所以我被群聽這次有報的制度就是說,同樣的一個概念,有的部會很認真去做。當然教育部看到很多老師他承受的這個教學現場的教學壓力。\n週一我才就叫過司法院的秘書長\n司法人員他的這個高壓也絕對是大家可以想像的他要承受很多審判當中生離死別判人重判人輕那個永遠在糾葛人都是感情做的都是肉做的都是血溶成的\n所以司法院也看到體恤他所有的司法人員的工作壓力所以推出司法院的心理健康關懷方案2019上路到現在每年有729人次去使用這樣一個心理健康方案而且他非常優渥跟人事長報告每人每次補助2500元可以去做心理諮商一年可以到8次\n這是司法院在照顧司法人員的心理健康好再下一頁那這個是蔡總統的五大心理健康方案\n這已經是溢出於我們公務體系之外是全民我們針對了15到30歲的青年族群每年給三次的心理諮商每次一千六然後一年三次這個預算一直加碼因為我們it's good newsbut also bad news好消息是很多人供不應求來來申請這個機會但bad news就是我們真的真真切切看到很多年輕世代他需要心理諮商的幫忙\n這是國家在做的事情照顧年輕人剛剛教育部照顧老師司法院照顧司法人員下一頁這是我擔任委員這麼多年我非常有成就感的一個政策的協力跟催生我成功的協助倡議各個大學具有心理價這樣一個新的價別從我第一次兩年前2022年站上質詢台質詢所有\n公立大學包括技職校院的校長們那個時候只有兩個學校有行李架就是實踐大學跟中山大學\n一年多到現在已經有43所大學設立了心理健康假而心理假不是只讓學生放假而已他是可以讓這個三級處遇的機制可以接住誰請心理假就知道這個可能最近失戀囉這個可能最近爸媽吵架學校要介入一下讓這個三級的心腹制度能夠有預警\n這是心理假最正向的意義所以43所大學上路了現在各大學都持續在推動它成為一個校園的運動照顧心理健康關懷你身邊的每一個人心靈生病跟身體生病是一樣要等同關切的而且它有連帶關係好 老幾樣然後我們進一步教育部現在最新的制度是現在開始3月開始高中職也開始來做心理假\n所以我做了這麼多分享您當知道我想要請你們回去研議的就是下一頁現在公務人員的各式價別有這麼多當然市價、病價、婚價、產前價、商價這個流產價、家庭照顧價包括女性的生理價\n2013年我們也是一步一步去爭取到女性不要對我的流血來逼我上班我們經痛的時候那是愛被救護很痛苦所以生理假是一個進步的我們2013年上路了甚至2014年我們完成了配套的修法那next心理假來人事長下一頁曾經有立委提過我自己也會提案\n市長,您覺得如何?\n吳思瑤議員\n我會用比較開放的方式來討論\n我希望你們趕快啟動研議啦我自己也會提案那我們用生理假的方式來衍生或者是用一般價別的經驗來衍生就以這個是2018年廖國棟委員所提的公務員服務法他的第一項我覺得是可以接受的就心理健康假每個月一次然後呢請年假全年請假日數未逾三日不病入病假\n其餘可並入並駕。\n我們會關心你今天感冒了有看醫生嗎?有吃藥嗎?但是我們總是令於給身旁的人一個很正向的心理的關懷那心理架真的不是給大家另外一個架別的好康寧不是是讓我們能夠藉由這個架去接住每一個我們要接住的人所以你能夠去研究我如果在你遇到我自己也拿這個案\n吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員\n我希望我們都跟上蔡英文總統全民一起來促進心理健康這樣一個對的政策健康起來當然我也很期待我們國會也要健康起來\n希望大家未來來備詢面對理性專業的立法委員大家心情是愉悅的也希望私要的質詢可以換得大家的一抹微笑好不好我持續為大家發聲一起加油謝謝好謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.056 --> 00:29.629\n謝謝主席人事長：我們所有人事總處的同仁大家早安大家辛苦了人事長你好我們都是台南鄉親人親土親我是司法及法制委員會的蔡佳娃事由在這次有什麼不正確的地方歡迎您隨時指正我絕對不會說你在藐視國會我想我們質詢是平起平坐大家來做一個正向的政策之間的辯論\n\n00:31.029 --> 00:55.682\n這是一個健康的、歡迎應當的態度所以今天我要就教於您照顧好公務員是您很重要的這個人事總處的責任那我要跟您拋出我過去在教育文化委員會我長期投入的心理諮商的機制跟心理架這一個新的概念在中華民國的公務體系能不能夠更進一步的獲得實現下一頁\n\n00:58.923 --> 01:18.098\n當然,我們民進黨這屆,我們對於公務員的調薪是,漲幅是15年來最高。不論在漲幅,或者是在調薪的次數,蔡英文總統都做得比馬英九總統更加用心。也不過,我們替我們的公務人員在進出更加好的福利之果。\n\n01:19.159 --> 01:32.926\n我們的辭職率這是我整理出來的最新的數字到2022我們的辭職率是一年一年的攀升從20191994人到2022已經來到2496人將近到2500這起辭職率就是我的這個所謂的鐵飯碗我都不要了\n\n01:45.552 --> 01:51.119\n那當然我們人事總處有針對辭職原因做一些調研：我認為我們現有對於公務同仁的辭職原因我們做的那樣的一個調查分析實在是非常的rough\n\n02:01.753 --> 02:15.945\n例如說這是你們2022做的調查好80%個人因素離開4.17%工作不適應管理的不當2.12待遇福利覺得不夠好的是1.6所以這是一個\n\n02:17.446 --> 02:35.399\n認為公務體系待遇福利不好而離開的人只有1.6%代表也驗證我們這幾年照顧公務人員是有留人也留心這是一個好的政策工具盡可能滿足大家在待遇上的需求那當然有人是個人的職癌發展1.12%他選擇離開了公務體系我在這裡我直接拋出來就是預防我們的辭職\n\n02:43.365 --> 02:43.385\n吳思瑤議員\n\n02:56.636 --> 03:14.981\n非常謝謝委員的這個意見事實上我們也非常關注這個議題因為這個資料庫的維護是在全序部我們過去有跟他溝通幾次他那個辭職原因有時那個寫的理由太冷了要寫得比較柔和寫得比較柔和我要統計分析才能夠比較明確不經常說\n\n03:24.284 --> 03:24.944\n對,因為我們很多分析來自於這個顆粒業系我們分析得越精準\n\n03:47.491 --> 04:08.105\n下一頁就是自殺數這是非常遺憾十一年來我們的公務員自殺案件都是雙位數包括2023年有22位公務人員選擇親生而離開新聞非常多包括前幾天在總統府前的憲兵他也自殘了\n\n04:09.105 --> 04:18.269\n雖然憲兵不是我們公務體系您這裡掌管但都呈現了我們的心理健康機制不要漏接每一個生命\n\n04:25.132 --> 04:51.554\n人總在有一個員工協助方案你應該是一個上位的guideline然後讓各部會去執行對不對那我看到的問題是我們依行政院所屬及地方機關的這個協助方案裡頭提供心理諮商啦身心健康座談啦保健醫療資訊啦還有健康評量檢測健康促進活動等等這個guideline\n\n04:53.375 --> 05:06.352\n實在有夠guideline你沒有管考沒有細緻到去follow各個部會誰做得好誰做得不夠我來分享我教育部門的做法好嗎下一頁教育部有很好的經驗譬如說2021年教育部就依據你的這個Guideline\n\n05:11.258 --> 05:11.278\n：吳思瑤\n\n05:31.297 --> 05:51.409\n所以藉經教育部的這個制度也是思瑤長期來協力的我們甚至修了教師法33條就明定了教育部應當本於照顧教職員工建立教師諮詢諮商的輔導支持體系我們在法規面有法源組織面就成立了我剛剛說的專責單位2021年成立的\n\n05:54.711 --> 06:17.472\n在預算面呢,我們甚至加碼去針對第一線的教職老師們從原先教育部每年補助地方政府650萬,現在一年提高到6000萬。所以我被群聽這次有報的制度就是說,同樣的一個概念,有的部會很認真去做。當然教育部看到很多老師他承受的這個教學現場的教學壓力。\n\n06:19.704 --> 06:20.324\n週一我才就叫過司法院的秘書長\n\n06:48.540 --> 07:05.525\n司法人員他的這個高壓也絕對是大家可以想像的他要承受很多審判當中生離死別判人重判人輕那個永遠在糾葛人都是感情做的都是肉做的都是血溶成的\n\n07:06.005 --> 07:29.643\n所以司法院也看到體恤他所有的司法人員的工作壓力所以推出司法院的心理健康關懷方案2019上路到現在每年有729人次去使用這樣一個心理健康方案而且他非常優渥跟人事長報告每人每次補助2500元可以去做心理諮商一年可以到8次\n\n07:30.745 --> 07:39.366\n這是司法院在照顧司法人員的心理健康好再下一頁那這個是蔡總統的五大心理健康方案\n\n07:40.624 --> 08:08.979\n這已經是溢出於我們公務體系之外是全民我們針對了15到30歲的青年族群每年給三次的心理諮商每次一千六然後一年三次這個預算一直加碼因為我們it'sgoodnewsbutalsobadnews好消息是很多人供不應求來來申請這個機會但badnews就是我們真的真真切切看到很多年輕世代他需要心理諮商的幫忙\n\n08:10.530 --> 08:36.815\n這是國家在做的事情照顧年輕人剛剛教育部照顧老師司法院照顧司法人員下一頁這是我擔任委員這麼多年我非常有成就感的一個政策的協力跟催生我成功的協助倡議各個大學具有心理價這樣一個新的價別從我第一次兩年前2022年站上質詢台質詢所有\n\n08:40.928 --> 08:48.797\n公立大學包括技職校院的校長們那個時候只有兩個學校有行李架就是實踐大學跟中山大學\n\n08:49.724 --> 09:13.764\n一年多到現在已經有43所大學設立了心理健康假而心理假不是只讓學生放假而已他是可以讓這個三級處遇的機制可以接住誰請心理假就知道這個可能最近失戀囉這個可能最近爸媽吵架學校要介入一下讓這個三級的心腹制度能夠有預警\n\n09:14.665 --> 09:43.428\n這是心理假最正向的意義所以43所大學上路了現在各大學都持續在推動它成為一個校園的運動照顧心理健康關懷你身邊的每一個人心靈生病跟身體生病是一樣要等同關切的而且它有連帶關係好老幾樣然後我們進一步教育部現在最新的制度是現在開始3月開始高中職也開始來做心理假\n\n09:44.830 --> 10:01.109\n所以我做了這麼多分享您當知道我想要請你們回去研議的就是下一頁現在公務人員的各式價別有這麼多當然市價、病價、婚價、產前價、商價這個流產價、家庭照顧價包括女性的生理價\n\n10:02.290 --> 10:29.764\n2013年我們也是一步一步去爭取到女性不要對我的流血來逼我上班我們經痛的時候那是愛被救護很痛苦所以生理假是一個進步的我們2013年上路了甚至2014年我們完成了配套的修法那next心理假來人事長下一頁曾經有立委提過我自己也會提案\n\n10:30.683 --> 10:31.084\n市長,您覺得如何?\n\n10:47.711 --> 10:47.731\n吳思瑤議員\n\n11:08.918 --> 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老幾樣然後我們進一步教育部現在最新的制度是現在開始3月開始高中職也開始來做心理假"},{"start":584.83,"end":601.109,"text":"所以我做了這麼多分享您當知道我想要請你們回去研議的就是下一頁現在公務人員的各式價別有這麼多當然市價、病價、婚價、產前價、商價這個流產價、家庭照顧價包括女性的生理價"},{"start":602.29,"end":629.764,"text":"2013年我們也是一步一步去爭取到女性不要對我的流血來逼我上班我們經痛的時候那是愛被救護很痛苦所以生理假是一個進步的我們2013年上路了甚至2014年我們完成了配套的修法那next心理假來人事長下一頁曾經有立委提過我自己也會提案"},{"start":630.683,"end":631.084,"text":"市長,您覺得如何?"},{"start":647.711,"end":647.731,"text":"吳思瑤議員"},{"start":668.918,"end":669.558,"text":"我會用比較開放的方式來討論"},{"start":691.88,"end":719.836,"text":"我希望你們趕快啟動研議啦我自己也會提案那我們用生理假的方式來衍生或者是用一般價別的經驗來衍生就以這個是2018年廖國棟委員所提的公務員服務法他的第一項我覺得是可以接受的就心理健康假每個月一次然後呢請年假全年請假日數未逾三日不病入病假"},{"start":720.556,"end":721.217,"text":"其餘可並入並駕。"},{"start":744.258,"end":770.669,"text":"我們會關心你今天感冒了有看醫生嗎?有吃藥嗎?但是我們總是令於給身旁的人一個很正向的心理的關懷那心理架真的不是給大家另外一個架別的好康寧不是是讓我們能夠藉由這個架去接住每一個我們要接住的人所以你能夠去研究我如果在你遇到我自己也拿這個案"},{"start":771.949,"end":772.169,"text":"吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員吳思瑤議員"},{"start":801.664,"end":804.787,"text":"我希望我們都跟上蔡英文總統全民一起來促進心理健康這樣一個對的政策健康起來當然我也很期待我們國會也要健康起來"},{"start":823.268,"end":835.793,"text":"希望大家未來來備詢面對理性專業的立法委員大家心情是愉悅的也希望私要的質詢可以換得大家的一抹微笑好不好我持續為大家發聲一起加油謝謝好謝謝委員"}]}}}}