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00:01:51,476\n因為我們有推估值,我們有高中低的推估值,連低推估值都沒有涵蓋在裡面所以表示我們的推估模式可能是有問題的我們兩年會檢討一次\n\n7\n00:02:15,114 --> 00:02:39,265\n我在想說針對這個部分我就很具體提到一個狀態就是有關於居家保姆的問題因為你要怎麼樣讓年輕人敢生願意生有很多很多的面向那對於整個保姆問題這邊我就直接提出一個主張就是說針對我們現在居家保姆我們一年的保姆獎助金是一萬兩千元對不對\n\n8\n00:02:40,612 --> 00:02:45,600\n有沒有可能就平均一個月才一千元有沒有可能提高到一個月兩千元\n\n9\n00:02:48,766 --> 00:03:16,419\n這個部分應該是衛福部嘛我們可以跟衛福部來做一些討論那這個方向怎麼樣提升保姆的人力這個我們也是覺得方向是好的方向那這個部分就請跟衛福部這邊好好去做溝通一下因為我覺得居家保姆的保姆獎助金其實真的偏低啦我們再看一個數字就50歲以上的保姆超過6成他跟我們老齡化的情況不相上下接下來\n\n10\n00:03:17,119 --> 00:03:37,158\n要願意做居家保姆的人越來越少所以我們必須要有更好的鼓勵機制那麼同時本席這邊也主張希望就是國發會除了說跟衛福部溝通居家保姆的每個月的獎助金提高之外的時候還能夠按照各縣市居家托育服務收費基準\n\n11\n00:03:38,299 --> 00:04:01,387\n來比照我們司法院民事執行他們所依據的每月必須生活費用去調整而不是固定每個月都一千全國到位臺北市也許應該要高一點因為整個生活必須高新竹市也許應該要高一點因為他的生活那個物價只追臺北市好不好我們針對這部分是不是能夠去做一個比照而不是\n\n12\n00:04:02,367 --> 00:04:27,426\n對於人工生殖的部分目前大家在推可能單身女性跟同性女同志的家庭共主家庭的時候是能夠去做人工生殖你支不支持?\n\n13\n00:04:28,388 --> 00:04:50,169\n我支持支持齁對你覺得這應該也是一個能夠去解決我們少子化問題的解決方式之一嘛對不對是OK齁好那我接下來再問一個齁就是之前在COVID-19的時候那我們國發會這邊有成立一個紓困資料上傳與比對平台對不對齁有有有\n\n14\n00:04:50,849 --> 00:05:12,804\n對,那上個月,去年8月的時候呢省基部出了一個資料就是針對我們這個紓困比對的平台裡面有65,871件產生了一些失誤那我們去追了現在還有19,687件還沒有追繳回來這個部分我們後續要怎麼樣處理?\n\n15\n00:05:19,266 --> 00:05:32,393\n應該還是要持續追繳啦因為當初是為了方便人民就是很急的時候我們就盡量寬鬆盡快的趕快把這個需求發出去嘛那如果有重複請領的狀況當然我們還是要追回來\n\n16\n00:05:36,255 --> 00:05:54,440\n這個部分因為時間有限我想說因為這個平台我們希望以後不會要用到可是如果再發生的時候我們希望不要發生因為你錢發出去更迷民眾了還要把民眾追回來民眾心裡一定圈圈叉叉一大堆一定很不爽然後同時會增加我們另外部會的工作量\n\n17\n00:05:55,260 --> 00:06:12,282\n如果前面做得好的時候就不會有後續追稿的問題因為當初是第一次發生所以我們盡快的那有那樣很快的這個平台建置嘛那我想如果有後續的話那個平台已經建置了所以他在比對的時候在施作發之前就可以先做比對\n\n18\n00:06:14,204 --> 00:06:29,194\n這個部分我們希望完善之後不要再發生這樣的事情徒增大家的困擾接下來就是針對桃竹苗大細股的一個計畫這個計畫我相信所有桃竹苗的民意代表都非常非常關切那裡面有幾個關鍵的數字\n\n19\n00:06:31,956 --> 00:06:58,232\n4年6兆產值14萬個工作人口然後有7個科學園區52個產業園區會增加42,250戶的社宅我覺得這是整個桃樹苗大細股這個方案當中我覺得幾個重要的數字那我想特別請教一下就是我們7個科學園區跟52個產業園區是不是都已經找好地方了\n\n20\n00:06:59,012 --> 00:07:00,594\n有多少在新竹市?\n\n21\n00:07:06,547 --> 00:07:35,093\n這個我可能要...我是不是會後再整理給那個委員那會後之後我就請主委這邊的時候再準備相關的資料到本辦公室來做一個說明那因為在這當中的時候還有特別提到了有關於社宅的部分我這邊提出一個數字在新竹市跟竹北這兩個地方就是新竹科學園區跟生育園區從民國88年到113這25年的時候大概增加7萬個工作人口\n\n22\n00:07:36,053 --> 00:07:53,242\n人口數大概增加25萬人所以我們預計這14萬人工作人口他到時候會怎麼分配是不是有一個具體的一個那個配置的一個計畫大致上同樣的也都會有一併我們大概的估算也會送給委員\n\n23\n00:07:54,242 --> 00:08:15,160\n稍後再給本辦公室一個很詳細的資料因為我看到在我們這大矽谷資料當中的裡面有一個特別提到了一個那個X計畫的部分它算是一個都會型的一個園區配套那之後還會不會有繼續在新竹市有類似X計畫的一個推動\n\n24\n00:08:16,481 --> 00:08:42,216\n會,在原來的周邊的地方會先開始好,那我們就之後希望因為在那個整個X計畫附近還有很多的特定農業區我們要如何去解決相關的問題我們到時候請那個主委再一併來那我最後再問一個狀態在大溪谷這計畫當中的時候它對於桃園新竹捷運道路規劃\n\n25\n00:08:43,357 --> 00:08:46,159\n新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞\n\n26\n00:09:03,277 --> 00:09:06,621\n大溪谷計畫當中會不會把這兩條線再做更多的一個延伸?\n\n27\n00:09:24,633 --> 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