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00:02:23,202\n第二個我看到你跟國界聯繫的關係第一個就是臺美21世紀的創意那我看的內容大概我們是臺灣配合美方再來你最主要的貢獻就是跟英國啦跟歐洲東歐的連結在一起那這裡面當然講的都是功勞我第一個問你ECO其實這個問題要特別注意\n\n6\n00:02:24,178 --> 00:02:50,844\n我第二個問題要問你在這樣的狀況CPTPP你們到現在也沒有一點消息也沒有聯絡這是台灣非常要中日進入的一個國際的貿易組織雙邊的一個協議多邊的協議可能看起來都沒有進展所以你們不敢在這邊停你的看法怎麼樣因為這個是非常重要的協議\n\n7\n00:02:54,452 --> 00:03:20,465\n我經濟貿易協議我覺得你沒說什麼等一下歐洲人要有融資要有投資有幾家那個資料也給我一下那昨天又看了你新聞又來一項的基金國外會準備40民間準備60這個內容也讓我了解一下你的動向在哪裡讓我看看你抓的準不準還是有某種目的而為而去做的一個關係\n\n8\n00:03:21,545 --> 00:03:40,706\n一定是為了台灣好啦那再請那個委員幫我們指導我不敢主導我是多看資料了解一下整個狀況那今天很多委員都在談到大矽谷計畫就是桃子子苗科技走廊產業對不對\n\n9\n00:03:43,309 --> 00:04:04,885\n指揮,我在經濟委員兩屆跟你的關係應該是不錯吧?還是你對我有歧視?我問的絕對有道理啦!表面是好,其實你不是對我不怎麼好啦!我跟你講先問總統當選,總統發表大西谷計畫在哪個地方發表?\n\n10\n00:04:10,734 --> 00:04:20,948\n我沒有記起來你沒有記起來我提醒你在苗栗縣發表我本來預計贏了三萬五千票結果他一發表我變成只贏兩萬票\n\n11\n00:04:22,489 --> 00:04:43,976\n因為自然科學研究都都是我在推動完成而且我一直在推動苗栗的產業研究但是我今天看了你的資料讀了一下我也莫名其妙你今天國外為所有提出來了就是講到桃園就是講到薪酬\n\n12\n00:04:45,000 --> 00:05:06,991\n其實我們賴總統他最主要大細股的計畫是要在苗栗推展你朝鮮人口已經那麼多了剛剛我聽到李委員什麼道路要開闢、薪酬要開闢我苗栗裡面你都沒有跟我談到一樣你對我哪一點好不要看資料來不及\n\n13\n00:05:08,069 --> 00:05:12,712\n我每次邀請你去到苗栗你都幫我記解都派副主委去跟我交代一下\n\n14\n00:05:41,129 --> 00:05:51,482\n你都往大都市跑所以你沒有深圳第一層你的地方創生就是要鄉鎮平衡的\n\n15\n00:05:52,349 --> 00:06:17,410\n阿我今天為什麼會把這個主題引來這邊你說對我不臭我就不相信阿阿那個是你去參加檢查的你也要跟我邀功在我的地方你還跟我邀功你實在懶夠了那是你國外會推展風機能經濟部長你出席那只有一次阿阿你這樣不夠孫子來\n\n16\n00:06:21,311 --> 00:06:45,478\n你現在要產業延期要1600公頃如果你內參的資料你延期給我花8、5公頃你也不要給我求延期的人那你我不曉得當經濟部長你這個產業發展室都還有那個什麼產業延期我早就已經代表他們去\n\n17\n00:06:47,059 --> 00:06:48,120\n我們有辦法足夠提供600公頃而且\n\n18\n00:07:09,169 --> 00:07:29,142\n現在科學園區是150公頃,產業園區的另外是145公頃我告訴你,如果你真的對我好,你跟我到一趟苗栗,電廠在通修火力化電廠全部供應北部的電\n\n19\n00:07:30,143 --> 00:07:39,470\n苗栗五座水庫都給臺中用,我們要收回來一些。其實自然投入的海線地帶是發展\n\n20\n00:07:40,763 --> 00:08:03,844\n科技產業走廊最重要的地帶,剛好連接著臺中科學營區連在一起,不長不遠都是很近的,尤其自然投入跟新竹科學營區幾乎是連在一起的,你看那地板嘛,你跑到桃園,不是啦,桃園你要啦,但是不能太多。\n\n21\n00:08:04,705 --> 00:08:30,416\n垃圾成箱的差距苗栗是最重要發展地帶您多多觀察我看你的道路建設都是在桃園新竹我表在哪有,不你告訴我有啦,就是說表在地帶你說國道1號的楊梅道頭份的拓寬工程那個拓寬工程合定了你沒了解我那邊西濱高加化也已經合定了\n\n22\n00:08:31,196 --> 00:08:53,005\n就是六十一號的這個平交道的那個平面道路齁平交道的平面道路齁六百萬是再高高的再高那是雙軌劃你國外會沒有關到平交道的問題啦所以你出發票就沒有花開我們苗栗非常重視這個大矽谷計畫\n\n23\n00:08:55,746 --> 00:09:21,465\n我們的賴清德總統宣布大矽谷計畫是在苗栗縣宣布的害我受損很多但是為了地方繁榮發展我只有忍受下來所以我希望你在這一兩個月有空跟我到苗栗一趟半天就可以我給你點出苗栗的優勢苗栗是佔的地利苗栗的競爭力在哪裡好不好但是\n\n24\n00:09:22,265 --> 00:09:26,188\n我對苗栗的支持比如說那時候衛福部提到的這個國會議員他要蓋二廠的時候我\n\n25\n00:09:45,603 --> 00:10:11,309\n不說惡劇馬上就批壓個是疫苗你只有那個地方可以蓋那以前是我爭取過來的捏我跟你講我們要好了你不怎麼重視你只重視桃園只重視新直線只重視新直市所以跟我下一趟到苗栗我一定好好交代你好好給你瞭解苗栗的因素成分率在哪裡好不好地方配合款我們都沒有要求苗栗\n\n26\n00:10:12,029 --> 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還是有某種目的而為而去做的一個關係"},{"start":201.545,"end":220.706,"text":"一定是為了台灣好啦那再請那個委員幫我們指導我不敢主導我是多看資料了解一下整個狀況那今天很多委員都在談到大矽谷計畫就是桃子子苗科技走廊產業對不對"},{"start":223.309,"end":244.885,"text":"指揮,我在經濟委員兩屆跟你的關係應該是不錯吧?還是你對我有歧視?我問的絕對有道理啦!表面是好,其實你不是對我不怎麼好啦!我跟你講先問總統當選,總統發表大西谷計畫在哪個地方發表?"},{"start":250.734,"end":260.948,"text":"我沒有記起來你沒有記起來我提醒你在苗栗縣發表我本來預計贏了三萬五千票結果他一發表我變成只贏兩萬票"},{"start":262.489,"end":283.976,"text":"因為自然科學研究都都是我在推動完成而且我一直在推動苗栗的產業研究但是我今天看了你的資料讀了一下我也莫名其妙你今天國外為所有提出來了就是講到桃園就是講到薪酬"},{"start":285,"end":306.991,"text":"其實我們賴總統他最主要大細股的計畫是要在苗栗推展你朝鮮人口已經那麼多了剛剛我聽到李委員什麼道路要開闢、薪酬要開闢我苗栗裡面你都沒有跟我談到一樣你對我哪一點好不要看資料來不及"},{"start":308.069,"end":312.712,"text":"我每次邀請你去到苗栗你都幫我記解都派副主委去跟我交代一下"},{"start":341.129,"end":351.482,"text":"你都往大都市跑所以你沒有深圳第一層你的地方創生就是要鄉鎮平衡的"},{"start":352.349,"end":377.41,"text":"阿我今天為什麼會把這個主題引來這邊你說對我不臭我就不相信阿阿那個是你去參加檢查的你也要跟我邀功在我的地方你還跟我邀功你實在懶夠了那是你國外會推展風機能經濟部長你出席那只有一次阿阿你這樣不夠孫子來"},{"start":381.311,"end":405.478,"text":"你現在要產業延期要1600公頃如果你內參的資料你延期給我花8、5公頃你也不要給我求延期的人那你我不曉得當經濟部長你這個產業發展室都還有那個什麼產業延期我早就已經代表他們去"},{"start":407.059,"end":408.12,"text":"我們有辦法足夠提供600公頃而且"},{"start":429.169,"end":449.142,"text":"現在科學園區是150公頃,產業園區的另外是145公頃我告訴你,如果你真的對我好,你跟我到一趟苗栗,電廠在通修火力化電廠全部供應北部的電"},{"start":450.143,"end":459.47,"text":"苗栗五座水庫都給臺中用,我們要收回來一些。其實自然投入的海線地帶是發展"},{"start":460.763,"end":483.844,"text":"科技產業走廊最重要的地帶,剛好連接著臺中科學營區連在一起,不長不遠都是很近的,尤其自然投入跟新竹科學營區幾乎是連在一起的,你看那地板嘛,你跑到桃園,不是啦,桃園你要啦,但是不能太多。"},{"start":484.705,"end":510.416,"text":"垃圾成箱的差距苗栗是最重要發展地帶您多多觀察我看你的道路建設都是在桃園新竹我表在哪有,不你告訴我有啦,就是說表在地帶你說國道1號的楊梅道頭份的拓寬工程那個拓寬工程合定了你沒了解我那邊西濱高加化也已經合定了"},{"start":511.196,"end":533.005,"text":"就是六十一號的這個平交道的那個平面道路齁 平交道的平面道路齁 六百萬是再高高的再高那是雙軌劃 你國外會沒有關到平交道的問題啦 所以你出發票就沒有花開我們苗栗非常重視這個大矽谷計畫"},{"start":535.746,"end":561.465,"text":"我們的賴清德總統宣布大矽谷計畫是在苗栗縣宣布的害我受損很多但是為了地方繁榮發展我只有忍受下來所以我希望你在這一兩個月有空跟我到苗栗一趟半天就可以我給你點出苗栗的優勢苗栗是佔的地利苗栗的競爭力在哪裡好不好但是"},{"start":562.265,"end":566.188,"text":"我對苗栗的支持比如說那時候衛福部提到的這個國會議員他要蓋二廠的時候我"},{"start":585.603,"end":611.309,"text":"不說惡劇馬上就批 壓個是疫苗你只有那個地方可以蓋那以前是我爭取過來的捏我跟你講我們要好了你不怎麼重視你只重視桃園只重視新直線只重視新直市所以跟我下一趟到苗栗我一定好好交代你好好給你瞭解苗栗的因素成分率在哪裡好不好地方配合款我們都沒有要求苗栗"},{"start":612.029,"end":613.772,"text":"好 主委 那個 真正的議員很客氣了我會實現 好吧 謝謝 謝謝"}]}}}}