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00:00:41,996\n部長好,其實我在好幾次之前都一直在關心我們這個有關逃逸移工的事情那尤其是在這疫情這兩三年當中這個逃逸的移工更嚴重那我相信部長還有勞動部這邊也有心要去解決這樣的一個問題那當然這個缺工的問題或者是說這個移工的這個來源\n\n3\n00:00:43,636 --> 00:00:43,836\n黃秀芳議員\n\n4\n00:01:03,887 --> 00:01:19,843\n這個部長就是說我們知道說要引進這個印度的移工其實你們都有做過評估那其實我們也看到現在在台灣有很多的這個不論是這個學校可能\n\n5\n00:01:20,043 --> 00:01:20,763\n中研院博士後研究\n\n6\n00:01:41,835 --> 00:02:03,406\n另外引進這個印度的移工到臺灣來其實我一個方面就是說讓這個移工的來源國能夠更多元那另外就是說印度籍的這些移工也許他們在中學或者是大學他們所受的教育語言大部分都是用英語那跟臺灣這邊對接的話語言方面其實應該也還可以\n\n7\n00:02:04,947 --> 00:02:06,227\n那你們有針對這些疑慮跟社會做說明或者是溝通嗎?\n\n8\n00:02:29,211 --> 00:02:48,804\n報告委員其實在去年有一些這些假訊息出來之後我們都有對外說明包括有一些歧視的問題比如說犯罪率等等那我們都有對外在說明包括說我們也告訴大家其實印度的移工素質是很好的在目前世界各國有\n\n9\n00:02:49,745 --> 00:03:12,321\n有用印度移工的其實都很肯定包括我們現在像我們鄰國像日本他開放比較晚可是他現在已經跟印度簽了他真的包括日本、韓國都在積極搶工包括以色列以色列他現在也是一直在積極要跟這個印度來洽簽這個勞務的相關的合作的契約\n\n10\n00:03:13,301 --> 00:03:30,455\n這個都是大家對那個印度移工的工作能力素質的肯定所以我們要讓大家瞭解那當然大家有一些疑慮的部分比如說他的犯罪率或其他的可能大家所擔心的部分我們的也有對外說明說其實這個我們要來台灣任何移工現在就是這樣子\n\n11\n00:03:31,476 --> 00:03:31,576\n黃秀芳議員\n\n12\n00:03:52,790 --> 00:03:54,911\n其實我們現在是這樣我特別要說明就是說其實包括我們現在已經開放了四國\n\n13\n00:04:20,939 --> 00:04:33,653\n我們其實沒有規定說印尼多少人越南多少人沒有我們其實就是讓僱主自由去選擇所以我們現在新增了印度也是讓四個國家多增加一個讓這個僱主\n\n14\n00:04:35,996 --> 00:04:46,124\n他自己是他的需求是決定他引進哪個國家我們不會去要求說你要進哪一國是不會只是讓雇主可以有更多的一個選擇對是好那我想請教就是說其實有很多這個臺商他們也有在\n\n15\n00:04:53,309 --> 00:04:53,349\n黃秀芳\n\n16\n00:05:33,414 --> 00:05:58,086\n我第一個就是說我們其實後續的諮詢會議我們也會邀請曾經在印度投資或設廠或現在有設廠的台商來做我們的諮詢委員另外剛剛委員講的其實現在比如說像越南我們都台商在那邊設廠他也很希望說我們這邊如果移工回母國能夠過去不過我們也有那個機制去推薦\n\n17\n00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:05,005\n就說他給這個移工啊就說你如果回去以後你想要找台商的\n\n18\n00:06:06,485 --> 00:06:06,625\n黃秀芳\n\n19\n00:06:29,728 --> 00:06:32,130\n部長,我們的高教體系遭受印度學生已經有30多年的時間,時間非常長。\n\n20\n00:06:44,919 --> 00:07:08,079\n那勞動部這邊就提到這個引進移工的這個政策有沒有跟其他單位有做過研商就是說可能有做一些討論比如說跟這個教育部或者是其他單位可能有做一些討論就是說未來這個移工的政策跟教育做結合我不知道說你們有沒有做這樣的一個討論\n\n21\n00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:37,368\n有,其實我們就是像一些我們現在的已經進來台灣的移工那有技術的那我們都希望他能夠留下來所以我們其實在那個跨國就是那個人口的移民政策的小組裡面我們就是在推中階嘛就希望這些優秀的移工留下來然後包括他的進修我們有跟教育部在就是有\n\n22\n00:07:38,147 --> 00:07:52,694\n所以這個跟流採久用其實也是就是說我們現在已經開始推動這個流採久用那我也不知道說你們現在推動的狀況到底是怎樣申請的我們到2月底是超過2萬5\n\n23\n00:07:54,235 --> 00:07:54,835\n我去年就兩萬了\n\n24\n00:08:19,665 --> 00:08:20,585\n有的國家是由政府直接\n\n25\n00:08:39,071 --> 00:08:40,132\n我們現在就是有多一個執聘執聘中心\n\n26\n00:08:56,162 --> 00:09:16,144\n國對國引進的一個機制只是說現在有些國家他比較消極比如說像越南他比較消極還有就是像印尼他那個家庭看護工他就是明文說他不是用他們國家規定說不是用引進的執聘的機制不然如果可以我們都希望能夠\n\n27\n00:09:17,105 --> 00:09:32,055\n大家藉由我們這樣的管道來引進尤其像那個叫什麼契約滿了之後的那個齊滿轉換其實透過職聘可以幫忙讓他們可以省下一些仲介的費用所以我希望大家能夠來善用\n\n28\n00:09:33,096 --> 00:09:49,426\n一方面就是說我們今天在提到這個印度移工引進的這個問題可能社會的疑慮那也希望說勞動部要去適宜那另外一方面就是說我們目前這個流財久用剛剛部長覺得說這個成效還不錯所以我也希望\n\n29\n00:09:52,928 --> 00:10:13,957\n因為我在上一屆我也希望就是說你們要到這個工業區可能要去做一些說明因為有一些中小企業他們就是有這個需要原本這個移工他的技術最純熟的時候結果他時間到就要回到他母國那到母國之後反而是自己再開一家公司來對打臺灣這家公司所以當然目前的這個狀況來講應該是改善很多\n\n30\n00:10:16,698 --> 00:10:28,860\n那個報告委員我們這個部分都有跟廠商聯合總會這邊在合作做宣導我還現在成立一個專案的移工流災九雲中心在新竹那大家都可以透過我們這個\n\n31\n00:10:30,077 --> 00:10:32,059\n我希望就是說,部長我也知道您很辛苦,也很願意來解決問題,那當然就是說,要這個\n\n32\n00:10:49,773 --> 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