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--> 00:02:18,559\n國內的部分我們就\n\n8\n00:02:47,495 --> 00:02:55,148\n呃看起來現在就是持續來盡量至少就我們國發委來講的話我們如果要將這個順利的話\n\n9\n00:02:57,512 --> 00:03:24,854\n去年編的預算我們就盡量的把它真的去落實包括我們現在推動的六大海星戰略產業啊競爭還有數位轉型的一些推動我倒是有點擔心現在國內我當然也希望是短期的就國內的包括現在不管是國會的一些狀況或者是整個政局的狀況我倒是有些擔心這樣狀況會不會影響到國內未來的經濟表現就政治性的一些因素是不是可以無縫接軌就是這一任跟下一任的政府對就是順利的啦\n\n10\n00:03:26,035 --> 00:03:29,859\n這8年來有一些好的一些經濟上的成果也來自於整個很順利的一些工作。\n\n11\n00:03:44,915 --> 00:04:08,784\n那我們現在會做好第一輪的這個先進作業所以從這個我會講也沒有所謂什麼看守內閣這樣的問題就該作為的事情但必然要作為嘛難道到520之前的時候政府有些該做不做就是一定要持續來做那同時間在520之後的能夠快速的銜接上去因為它沒有任何停下來的空間也必須要加快那我也請教一下其實大家在關心包括電價明天有一個電價的報告\n\n12\n00:04:09,904 --> 00:04:34,743\n因為電價包括國際的能源的包括這個原料的一些跟國內的採購的成本其實有很大的落差所以台電的虧損我們也想辦法來做一個解決那電價看來漲是有一定的壓力在的那這個對於未來我們的這個CPI我看一下報告上面也都寫到大概原來估1.79其實算是這一段有點降了但是如果再加上0.12的話可能到1.91那剛剛\n\n13\n00:04:37,786 --> 00:04:38,066\n所以我們為什麼這個物價的\n\n14\n00:04:56,647 --> 00:04:56,887\n賴瑞隆議員\n\n15\n00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:32,422\n我看到主委裡面有一個穩定國內物價也是你的重要的包括你的風險跟因應的工作那我問一下主委那當然接下來這也是要去面對我想問一下主委整體來看因為當然台電包括電價的問題的話主委整體來看你的看法是怎麼樣\n\n16\n00:05:33,183 --> 00:05:59,690\n要不要試著做一些調整那調整後對整個CPI的整個影響上怎麼去做一個好的對因為現在主義總數預估的大概是1.85那當然因為現在電價還沒有做最後確定假設啦假設電價如果有調升的話當然就會可能在2以上或以下這個2的話如果跟其他國家來比的話這樣的數字還是低還是低的啦所以應該還是在可接受的一個範圍裡對現在全世界\n\n17\n00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:01,231\n主委同意這樣的看法嗎?\n\n18\n00:06:24,554 --> 00:06:43,361\n我想經濟部他會做一些考量齁對一些不同的產業齁他可能會有一些分眾的一些一些設計啦我們也希望主委有機會在那個啦就是政府在不要全部都只靠漲電價來做處理我覺得台電那個是要面對解決但是也不要這樣我還希望政府能夠給予一定的\n\n19\n00:06:43,921 --> 00:06:44,121\n對,就是說\n\n20\n00:07:11,485 --> 00:07:28,603\n原則上來講照顧名聲還是很重要的部分所以這個原則還是會有這樣的原則穩定物價也是一個重要的工作但如果有機會透過不管是微調、電價、不管是政府的補貼我們也希望國發會能夠大力來支持\n\n21\n00:07:29,904 --> 00:07:55,144\n再來我還是要回到講一下天使基金的部分其實主委也很重視整個投資金額35.37億甚至在上次有提到希望增加到百億這個我們很支持但是我也想講的是上次也質詢過其實光北部跟南部其實有很大的落差我上次講過臺北市光增加了就59家而高雄是增加3家而最新的資訊的時候最近\n\n22\n00:07:55,845 --> 00:07:55,865\n會這個部門\n\n23\n00:08:11,334 --> 00:08:34,229\n可不可以在下次的這個看到的時候有更顯出在南部不管是高雄、台南甚至嘉義有更好的一些成長的狀況現在就是說高雄的他來申請的案基本上都過現在就是說要把那個申請案把它擴大上次有跟主委提到要更多的輔導跟協助他們讓他們能夠更多的提案出來因為當然他們有提案我們也都支持\n\n24\n00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:53,568\n所以為什麼在亞系的3.0我們會擴大這個部分就是這個部分增加這個注資因為我們有目標未來四年裡面獲得投資的金額要翻倍所以要有更積極的做法光如果主委講到百億的話\n\n25\n00:08:54,389 --> 00:09:20,338\n我希望這些南部的部分可以大幅的一個成長好不好這個對南部的這些會有很大的一個注意因為我看到你亞系3.0的架構整個也都提出來了不管是在AI這也是南部現在亞灣的一個重點項目還是你的新創不管是南部也有亞灣新創園包括矽谷的相關計畫在進行包括數位這一塊都在進行我也希望這一塊主委跟國防很有意識的去協助南部來做這個推動好不好我們希望看到很具體的一些成果\n\n26\n00:09:20,839 --> 00:09:31,298\n我會持續追蹤啦再來問一下上次有提到亞灣創新研發中心的進度主委當時跟我講一個月內會邀請高雄市政府的相關部會來做推動這個後來有結果嗎?\n\n27\n00:09:34,271 --> 00:09:51,979\n我們大概有相對的詢問各部會目前可能的設置狀況當然經濟部想說它也可以釋出包括睪丸二期的一些相關基地如果真的有成型的話我們就來...當時說一個月後會給我一個具體的結果有消息了嗎?\n\n28\n00:09:57,301 --> 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這個部門\n可不可以在下次的這個看到的時候有更顯出在南部不管是高雄、台南甚至嘉義有更好的一些成長的狀況現在就是說高雄的他來申請的案基本上都過現在就是說要把那個申請案把它擴大上次有跟主委提到要更多的輔導跟協助他們讓他們能夠更多的提案出來因為當然他們有提案我們也都支持\n所以為什麼在亞系的3.0我們會擴大這個部分就是這個部分增加這個注資因為我們有目標未來四年裡面獲得投資的金額要翻倍所以要有更積極的做法光如果主委講到百億的話\n我希望這些南部的部分可以大幅的一個成長好不好這個對南部的這些會有很大的一個注意因為我看到你亞系3.0的架構整個也都提出來了不管是在AI這也是南部現在亞灣的一個重點項目還是你的新創不管是南部也有亞灣新創園包括矽谷的相關計畫在進行包括數位這一塊都在進行我也希望這一塊主委跟國防很有意識的去協助南部來做這個推動好不好我們希望看到很具體的一些成果\n我會持續追蹤啦再來問一下上次有提到亞灣創新研發中心的進度主委當時跟我講一個月內會邀請高雄市政府的相關部會來做推動這個後來有結果嗎?\n我們大概有相對的詢問各部會目前可能的設置狀況當然經濟部想說它也可以釋出包括睪丸二期的一些相關基地如果真的有成型的話我們就來...當時說一個月後會給我一個具體的結果 有消息了嗎?\n謝謝主委謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.610 --> 00:15.809\n請賴瑞隆委員請做詢答賴瑞隆委員詢答結束我們休息10分鐘那我們本會這一次的會議我們中午就不休息一直到我們會議結束謝謝請發言好謝謝召委齁請公主委我們再請公主委\n\n00:19.926 --> 00:33.832\n公主委辛苦了,謝謝也謝謝你對這個國家的付出跟對這個辛苦了我想首先還是先關切今年的這個臺灣的經濟狀況看來在整個緊急的燈號其實持續的好轉到綠的那大概是終結過去17個月之後再次的綠燈那主委怎麼看接下來臺灣的整個經濟狀況包括緊急狀況是\n\n00:48.178 --> 01:08.642\n委員您這邊的資料也可以看到就是12月份到1月份這邊所有的這個燈號除了這個出口之外還回到這個綠燈之外其他的都是變好的燈所以可以看到說它比較是一個全面性的指標不是單一指標產生的變化所以為什麼一次會增加5分就是這個意思所以\n\n01:09.983 --> 01:35.363\n這樣的情況它會比較穩當所以為什麼我們對於2月份來講的話還是相對樂觀的意思就是這樣不會又會掉回去不會這樣的情況所以今年大概都會維持這樣的趨勢嗎現在看起來是這樣子是這樣子的那現在大概世界各國也估計台灣的這個經濟成長率大概是2.7到3.43那主計總署也估了大概是3.43主委就你個人的角度你怎麼來看待這個\n\n01:36.337 --> 01:52.708\n是,因為我們覺得主席總書這樣的調整是有它的基礎,利潤基礎存在,而且它也是預估值它是最近的預估值,因為看到了這個1月份的一些相關變化或2月份的相關變化所以它有這樣的估計\n\n01:53.388 --> 02:16.338\n所以我們對於3.43是相對樂觀的甚至有可能會比這樣有更好的一些狀況的那就要我們再觀察但至少3.43主委是認同這樣一個的那另外我也想請教國內外的局勢狀況下後面有沒有什麼樣的一些變數除了裡面也報告上有提到特別是國內一些因素上是我們特別要去注意的\n\n02:17.298 --> 02:18.559\n國內的部分我們就\n\n02:47.495 --> 02:55.148\n呃看起來現在就是持續來盡量至少就我們國發委來講的話我們如果要將這個順利的話\n\n02:57.512 --> 03:24.854\n去年編的預算我們就盡量的把它真的去落實包括我們現在推動的六大海星戰略產業啊競爭還有數位轉型的一些推動我倒是有點擔心現在國內我當然也希望是短期的就國內的包括現在不管是國會的一些狀況或者是整個政局的狀況我倒是有些擔心這樣狀況會不會影響到國內未來的經濟表現就政治性的一些因素是不是可以無縫接軌就是這一任跟下一任的政府對就是順利的啦\n\n03:26.035 --> 03:29.859\n這8年來有一些好的一些經濟上的成果也來自於整個很順利的一些工作。\n\n03:44.915 --> 04:08.784\n那我們現在會做好第一輪的這個先進作業所以從這個我會講也沒有所謂什麼看守內閣這樣的問題就該作為的事情但必然要作為嘛難道到520之前的時候政府有些該做不做就是一定要持續來做那同時間在520之後的能夠快速的銜接上去因為它沒有任何停下來的空間也必須要加快那我也請教一下其實大家在關心包括電價明天有一個電價的報告\n\n04:09.904 --> 04:34.743\n因為電價包括國際的能源的包括這個原料的一些跟國內的採購的成本其實有很大的落差所以台電的虧損我們也想辦法來做一個解決那電價看來漲是有一定的壓力在的那這個對於未來我們的這個CPI我看一下報告上面也都寫到大概原來估1.79其實算是這一段有點降了但是如果再加上0.12的話可能到1.91那剛剛\n\n04:37.786 --> 04:38.066\n所以我們為什麼這個物價的\n\n04:56.647 --> 04:56.887\n賴瑞隆議員\n\n05:13.980 --> 05:32.422\n我看到主委裡面有一個穩定國內物價也是你的重要的包括你的風險跟因應的工作那我問一下主委那當然接下來這也是要去面對我想問一下主委整體來看因為當然台電包括電價的問題的話主委整體來看你的看法是怎麼樣\n\n05:33.183 --> 05:59.690\n要不要試著做一些調整那調整後對整個CPI的整個影響上怎麼去做一個好的對因為現在主義總數預估的大概是1.85那當然因為現在電價還沒有做最後確定假設啦假設電價如果有調升的話當然就會可能在2以上或以下這個2的話如果跟其他國家來比的話這樣的數字還是低還是低的啦所以應該還是在可接受的一個範圍裡對現在全世界\n\n06:00.450 --> 06:01.231\n主委同意這樣的看法嗎?\n\n06:24.554 --> 06:43.361\n我想經濟部他會做一些考量齁對一些不同的產業齁他可能會有一些分眾的一些一些設計啦我們也希望主委有機會在那個啦就是政府在不要全部都只靠漲電價來做處理我覺得台電那個是要面對解決但是也不要這樣我還希望政府能夠給予一定的\n\n06:43.921 --> 06:44.121\n對,就是說\n\n07:11.485 --> 07:28.603\n原則上來講照顧名聲還是很重要的部分所以這個原則還是會有這樣的原則穩定物價也是一個重要的工作但如果有機會透過不管是微調、電價、不管是政府的補貼我們也希望國發會能夠大力來支持\n\n07:29.904 --> 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