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伸至南投市區，形成南投路網系統，向中央表達爭取捷運建設的決心。爰此，行政院及交通部應儘速協助並早日核定台中捷運延伸至南投，要求交通部於一個月內提出規劃期程並向本委員會報告，以完善南投台中軌道交通，弭平城鄉差距，促進南投產業發展。","提案人：游　顥","連署人：許宇甄　　黃建賓　　邱若華　　萬美玲　　張智倫　　魯明哲　　傅崐萁"]],"agenda":{"page_end":348,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-23-2","speakers":["李昆澤","林國成","廖先翔","黃健豪","林沛祥","陳素月","何欣純","林俊憲","魯明哲","游顥","萬美玲","邱若華","蔡其昌","徐富癸","許智傑","洪孟楷","牛煦庭","鍾佳濱","謝衣鳯","高金素梅","王鴻薇","李柏毅","楊瓊瓔","鄭天財Sra 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00:03:59,527\n網路上對這個所謂的一個國旅訂房率偏低也有幾個熱烈討論的一些話題那包含缺工、包含國際旅客不來、包含原物料上漲、包含國內景點沒有吸引力那我想這些的問題部裡面應該要正面對那這個部分是不是請交通部在兩個月之內提出一個完整的配套措施\n\n10\n00:04:00,228 --> 00:04:18,154\n好,我是不是請署長,他更熟了,他稍微簡單跟你報告一下剛剛謝謝委員,之前也特別拜會委員特別提到其實我們希望能夠加大力道把倡議我們南部的這個旅遊的亮點所以我們也希望能夠在今年我們把2024跟2025當作一個雙年的方式來推動我們的\n\n11\n00:04:23,975 --> 00:04:50,647\n南台灣,所以怎麼樣把南台灣的這個知性之旅或者是把南台灣的這些亮點做一些串接那當然這個現在的看法就是我們希望把這個也正好這兩天我們把22個縣市政府的官方首長也做一些討論那麼我們可能會有幾個部分一起來就是我們希望能夠加大這個南部的這些亮點\n\n12\n00:04:51,786 --> 00:05:18,296\n那麼其次呢我們是希望說旅宿的部分因為雙東的部分啦屏東跟台東的部分確實都是假日比較會到我們的屏東跟台東所以我們怎麼樣去擴大這個非假日的部分的增加一些誘因所以我想說這些我們都是雙管齊下那我們也把新南向的部分\n\n13\n00:05:19,196 --> 00:05:46,445\n通過我們的小港機場也當作一個重點那我們希望能夠把這個擴大我們的這個東南亞能夠到我們的臺南高雄屏東做這樣的一個搭配我想部長跟署長我們一起來努力我想業者他們大家也都願意來配合只是說我們政府在整個配套上面還有一些政策上面怎麼樣再釋出更多的利多那這個業者這邊他們都願意來全力配合\n\n14\n00:05:47,225 --> 00:06:15,214\n另外我再請教一下部長其實除了屏東除了墾丁之外還有一個很重要的觀光景點叫做大鵬灣那因為大鵬灣在2019年辦了一個史上最美的台灣燈會之後就面臨到我們BOT廠商解約那後來交通部也被我們監察院彈劾那我們部裡面也在2022年的9月宣布要重啟大鵬灣的BOT招商那我請教一下目前的進度如何我請署長跟您報告\n\n15\n00:06:46,875 --> 00:07:12,450\n我們現在目前還是按照程序在走這點我大概要提醒一下部長跟署長其實大部分的問題在於說很多廠商願意來但是面對的是我們現在我們很多的公共設施包含水質跟基礎建設我們的處理的速度太慢了造成業者他們不敢來投資那針對這些問題我們部裡面有沒有什麼想法\n\n16\n00:07:13,090 --> 00:07:38,097\n這部分我們已經專案在處理現在大幅改善了那現在主要是還是希望能夠更多的這個法令的鬆綁我們就是盡量都已經都開放了所以這個部分就等招商的部分來看這個投資的這個廠商他們的看法這部分還是請部委員還有書長這邊來其他的水準我們都已經持續在做\n\n17\n00:07:39,857 --> 00:08:05,799\n另外針對我想屏東這個鐵路高架化並只有做到一部分目前做到潮州到林邊那還有一部分的鐵路高架並沒有完成那也最近幾年也陸陸續續發生很多的鐵路平交道的事故那我需要請教一下部長那究竟我們屏東縣的鐵路全線高架化什麼時候可以完成現在有嗎?\n\n18\n00:08:10,183 --> 00:08:34,734\n跟委員報告我們現在研究把仿遙車站的部分納入南回平井路段改善的這個可行性研究裡面來去做探討現在主要是說本來也有談到比如說潮州以後要不要多高價但是這個金額非常的高所以現在大部分現在的重點就是仿遙大車站平台這個計畫就仿遙車站的前後來做一個處理目前\n\n19\n00:08:35,834 --> 00:08:57,164\n市長,不要每次提到經費就講說南部人這個經費要很龐大。我們聽不下去啦。我們就是有在落水,我們也是不能做二等國民啦。因為真的每次遇到交通事故,甚至等一個交通評價到的一個,都要等很久的時間。這不是我們民眾人要看到的情形。先從黃寮車站的,這個人比較多啦,從黃寮車站下來處理。\n\n20\n00:09:00,836 --> 00:09:25,097\n有沒有一個騎乘規劃?現在是直接處理高價化高價化的部分仿寮車站高價化對這個我在想我印象中因為7年前又停到而且這個仿寮站那邊會造成所謂的一個淹水的一個很嚴重的一個問題這應該是不是加快來進行他們那個可行性報告已經完成我們加快來審查先從仿寮開始好\n\n21\n00:09:27,616 --> 00:09:46,369\n最後一個問題我想請教部長就是因為我們現在目前的鐵路建設都要拖很久的時間那我想未來有沒有可能走向一個所謂的民營的一個系統來考量就是所謂的一個鐵路路線跟車站的一個規劃的部分\n\n22\n00:09:47,544 --> 00:10:07,680\n目前是這樣因為那個我們先第一個是組織改革就台鐵變成現在業業要變成台鐵公司我想就由他先去經營就是說會不會走上民意化現在目前是還是以勾引化勾引公司的方式來處理那這種勾引公司也可以進到很多偏鄉的義務\n\n23\n00:10:08,881 --> 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05:18.296\n那麼其次呢我們是希望說旅宿的部分因為雙東的部分啦屏東跟台東的部分確實都是假日比較會到我們的屏東跟台東所以我們怎麼樣去擴大這個非假日的部分的增加一些誘因所以我想說這些我們都是雙管齊下那我們也把新南向的部分\n\n05:19.196 --> 05:46.445\n通過我們的小港機場也當作一個重點那我們希望能夠把這個擴大我們的這個東南亞能夠到我們的臺南高雄屏東做這樣的一個搭配我想部長跟署長我們一起來努力我想業者他們大家也都願意來配合只是說我們政府在整個配套上面還有一些政策上面怎麼樣再釋出更多的利多那這個業者這邊他們都願意來全力配合\n\n05:47.225 --> 06:15.214\n另外我再請教一下部長其實除了屏東除了墾丁之外還有一個很重要的觀光景點叫做大鵬灣那因為大鵬灣在2019年辦了一個史上最美的台灣燈會之後就面臨到我們BOT廠商解約那後來交通部也被我們監察院彈劾那我們部裡面也在2022年的9月宣布要重啟大鵬灣的BOT招商那我請教一下目前的進度如何我請署長跟您報告\n\n06:46.875 --> 07:12.450\n我們現在目前還是按照程序在走這點我大概要提醒一下部長跟署長其實大部分的問題在於說很多廠商願意來但是面對的是我們現在我們很多的公共設施包含水質跟基礎建設我們的處理的速度太慢了造成業者他們不敢來投資那針對這些問題我們部裡面有沒有什麼想法\n\n07:13.090 --> 07:38.097\n這部分我們已經專案在處理現在大幅改善了那現在主要是還是希望能夠更多的這個法令的鬆綁我們就是盡量都已經都開放了所以這個部分就等招商的部分來看這個投資的這個廠商他們的看法這部分還是請部委員還有書長這邊來其他的水準我們都已經持續在做\n\n07:39.857 --> 08:05.799\n另外針對我想屏東這個鐵路高架化並只有做到一部分目前做到潮州到林邊那還有一部分的鐵路高架並沒有完成那也最近幾年也陸陸續續發生很多的鐵路平交道的事故那我需要請教一下部長那究竟我們屏東縣的鐵路全線高架化什麼時候可以完成現在有嗎?\n\n08:10.183 --> 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