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00:01:44,429\n國道客運的營運狀況卻非常的糟糕這個我舉一個例子比如說南崁的5203A過去由長榮的客運來做營運那其實他去年他就已經說要退場了大家商量他待死延死最後延到今年的2月那2月底之後我們就再進一步去要求後面的配套措施那也跟部裡面做了溝通跟商量\n\n5\n00:01:45,910 --> 00:02:10,903\n講說國光、亞通還有後來有多一家義姐會來接手嘛對不對我們本來很期待我們也很願意相信交通部跟公路局解決這個問題的能力我們很高興的跟鄉親宣布說這個帶死的狀況暫時可以緩解大家的燃眉之急可是這個現實總是很骨感因為3月1號開始馬上出現說好的48班直接變成38班而且離峰不是離峰更正昏峰從\n\n6\n00:02:12,324 --> 00:02:36,079\n台北回來的時候6點40一班下一班進來是8點40這個是完全沒有辦法輸運這個雙北跟南侃之間通勤的人流那我們辦公室在處理這個個案的時候要求提出說明那速度其實是有一點慢的我要提醒部長這一部分要上緊發條然後我們也要求如果你真的基於班次調度一些困難的話你總要預先跟人民做溝通吧\n\n7\n00:02:36,579 --> 00:02:53,576\n你不能說你很辛苦我知道你很辛苦可是人民如果沒有辦法第一時間知道政策的這個變化或者是執行的疏漏的時候那就會出現民怨嘛要不是我們辦公室當初去安排然後要求你當天早上去跟那些排隊的通勤族說明這個民怨會更大\n\n8\n00:02:54,076 --> 00:03:08,344\n那我們不希望接下來會一直在處理這樣的事情請部理上緊發條那不只是5203A的問題5203A的問題今天開始看起來是恢復正常48班到位這一點是至少有一點改善可是問題是5203A完了之後換5250A5250B出現狀況啦開始拖班啦\n\n9\n00:03:13,306 --> 00:03:41,645\n為什麼脫班呢後來也是問了一大圈問了半天才知道啊原來這個什麼司機離職啊其實也都是老問題欸你不能說這個地方的問題處理完了下個地方火又燒起來不能一直在處理個案的問題啦而且不只是往返於南侃往返桃園也一樣比如說9005、9023其實都是大排長龍很多人在用可是業者也都興趣缺缺那有些這個班制的調度也不是很精準比如說這個9005的回程\n\n10\n00:03:43,686 --> 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個案跟同案 個案的部分的話就是說如果說他的這個公司的班制或是車輛駕駛的這個部分因為有些部分或許我們找其他的公司或是遊覽車也來協助啦\n305717\t332324\t我現在意思就是這樣如果說有班次接不上路線可以調整我們就調整有一些班次比如說9005有一些可以從港前發我覺得這是可以思考的有一些可以從京國轉運站發其實就可以解決調度班次的問題那班次不足的部分比如說5250A如果他繼續拖班那就找其他業者一起來經營我覺得也都OK好不好這些東西我剛剛提到我們會後討論好不好通案我們也有處理通案的話就是說增加價值\n333224\t355732\t通案問題三個方向 這個任期應該會討論這件事 討論蠻久的從個案看通案 如果通案的問題沒有解決 那個案的問題將層出不窮通案的問題三個 我相信也是老生常談 第一個叫營運困境我們17年沒有檢討運價票價 18項成本固定在那個地方 那什麼時候會有第一次的調整 請部長回答\n356277\t383073\t那個你就票價的部分嗎?票價他現在已經提出來全聯會提了嘛什麼時候審過大家很關心這個事啦全聯會在我們公路局這邊已經審了給他意見他修正回來了那我們這邊會報交通部對啊報部那所以我問部長大概什麼時候會什麼時候會調整完因為這個關乎客運業者會不會願不願意回頭進場那個公路局送上來我們盡快盡快來核准有沒有具體的時間表一個月兩個月或什麼樣可以嗎\n386055\t402233\t因為競速啦,因為他還沒送到我這邊齁,啊我們內部也有一個審查的程序齁沒關係,現在請公路局會後再來跟我做報告,跟我確認時間表齁第二個,司機缺員的問題啊當然你們有提出一些相關的計畫但從前年開始,前年喔,到今年的1月目標4800,只來了1414,達成率不到30%\n405777\t420409\t那表示這個計畫還有可以精進跟修改的地方另外也表示不只是薪資的問題客運業者的營運上班的工作環境是不好的能不能針對工作環境的優化跟改善去修改部分的規則這個我也希望交通部做一個通盤檢討可以嗎\n422190\t440858\t這個一樣請公路局會後做報告第三個我要提一個概念我們為了要讓路線調度的更順暢這個也不只是限於國道客運市區公車也需要公車的駐車場站但這個駐車場站現在切身未明現在都市計畫裡面它到底是屬於什麼樣的用地我希望交通部跟內政部做一個會商\n441578\t441698\t謝謝主席 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沒關係\n部長辛苦了大家都關心交通的議題本期當然也是不例外所以今天來提出交通部的一些相關的政策的意見希望跟部長做一些探討我們先從個案開始說起部長這個1200是好政策很多選區的選民我們桃園是通勤的重鎮往返雙北的人數的數量是非常多那1200上任之後其實大家覺得說這個看到了政府在改善交通問題的誠意\n但是我們不希望這樣子的一個政策為德不足有了大額的票價補貼之後你相關的配套措施要跟著上來1200上路之後大家重新開始期待用國道客運去替代私家車來做北逃的通勤但是上路之後\n國道客運的營運狀況卻非常的糟糕這個我舉一個例子比如說南崁的5203A過去由長榮的客運來做營運那其實他去年他就已經說要退場了大家商量他待死延死最後延到今年的2月那2月底之後我們就再進一步去要求後面的配套措施那也跟部裡面做了溝通跟商量\n講說國光、亞通還有後來有多一家義姐會來接手嘛對不對我們本來很期待我們也很願意相信交通部跟公路局解決這個問題的能力我們很高興的跟鄉親宣布說這個帶死的狀況暫時可以緩解大家的燃眉之急可是這個現實總是很骨感因為3月1號開始馬上出現說好的48班直接變成38班而且離峰不是離峰更正昏峰從\n台北回來的時候6點40一班下一班進來是8點40這個是完全沒有辦法輸運這個雙北跟南侃之間通勤的人流那我們辦公室在處理這個個案的時候要求提出說明那速度其實是有一點慢的我要提醒部長這一部分要上緊發條然後我們也要求如果你真的基於班次調度一些困難的話你總要預先跟人民做溝通吧\n你不能說你很辛苦我知道你很辛苦可是人民如果沒有辦法第一時間知道政策的這個變化或者是執行的疏漏的時候那就會出現民怨嘛要不是我們辦公室當初去安排然後要求你當天早上去跟那些排隊的通勤族說明這個民怨會更大\n那我們不希望接下來會一直在處理這樣的事情請部理上緊發條那不只是5203A的問題5203A的問題今天開始看起來是恢復正常48班到位這一點是至少有一點改善可是問題是5203A完了之後換5250A5250B出現狀況啦開始拖班啦\n為什麼脫班呢後來也是問了一大圈問了半天才知道啊原來這個什麼司機離職啊其實也都是老問題欸你不能說這個地方的問題處理完了下個地方火又燒起來不能一直在處理個案的問題啦而且不只是往返於南侃往返桃園也一樣比如說9005、9023其實都是大排長龍很多人在用可是業者也都興趣缺缺那有些這個班制的調度也不是很精準比如說這個9005的回程\n市府轉運站發車下一站就是港前差一站而已可是在港前的桃園鄉親回家排隊等最久那天寒流不到10度在寒風中等兩個半小時才能上車這個其實是車班調度有更細膩可以改善的地方\n9023、9025在去的時候也一樣住在桃園經國轉運站我住轉運站旁邊捏卻因為離發車中心太遠首站變末站結果住轉運站最近的人竟然上不了車凡此種種都表示我們國道客運在桃園的這個執行細節有非常多可以修改的地方這些個案我希望交通部趕快解決部長可以提出解決方案嗎\n我做一個原則的那個就基本上第一個不中斷這是最基本的基本不中斷一定要的嗎那的確在國道客運他因為有這個後來來接手待死不穩定這個現象我這個也有事實上我跟這個局長談過很多次這個是因為他窮盡這個力量去把這個保持這樣的服務品質\n那剛才談的這幾個個案的問題我是不是請那個局長回答一下我時間有些很盡快好不好是 個案跟同案 個案的部分的話就是說如果說他的這個公司的班制或是車輛駕駛的這個部分因為有些部分或許我們找其他的公司或是遊覽車也來協助啦\n我現在意思就是這樣如果說有班次接不上路線可以調整我們就調整有一些班次比如說9005有一些可以從港前發我覺得這是可以思考的有一些可以從京國轉運站發其實就可以解決調度班次的問題那班次不足的部分比如說5250A如果他繼續拖班那就找其他業者一起來經營我覺得也都OK好不好這些東西我剛剛提到我們會後討論好不好通案我們也有處理通案的話就是說增加價值\n通案問題三個方向 這個任期應該會討論這件事 討論蠻久的從個案看通案 如果通案的問題沒有解決 那個案的問題將層出不窮通案的問題三個 我相信也是老生常談 第一個叫營運困境我們17年沒有檢討運價票價 18項成本固定在那個地方 那什麼時候會有第一次的調整 請部長回答\n那個你就票價的部分嗎?票價他現在已經提出來全聯會提了嘛什麼時候審過大家很關心這個事啦全聯會在我們公路局這邊已經審了給他意見他修正回來了那我們這邊會報交通部對啊報部那所以我問部長大概什麼時候會什麼時候會調整完因為這個關乎客運業者會不會願不願意回頭進場那個公路局送上來我們盡快盡快來核准有沒有具體的時間表一個月兩個月或什麼樣可以嗎\n因為競速啦,因為他還沒送到我這邊齁,啊我們內部也有一個審查的程序齁沒關係,現在請公路局會後再來跟我做報告,跟我確認時間表齁第二個,司機缺員的問題啊當然你們有提出一些相關的計畫但從前年開始,前年喔,到今年的1月目標4800,只來了1414,達成率不到30%\n那表示這個計畫還有可以精進跟修改的地方另外也表示不只是薪資的問題客運業者的營運上班的工作環境是不好的能不能針對工作環境的優化跟改善去修改部分的規則這個我也希望交通部做一個通盤檢討可以嗎\n這個一樣請公路局會後做報告第三個我要提一個概念我們為了要讓路線調度的更順暢這個也不只是限於國道客運市區公車也需要公車的駐車場站但這個駐車場站現在切身未明現在都市計畫裡面它到底是屬於什麼樣的用地我希望交通部跟內政部做一個會商\n謝謝主席 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.389 --> 00:15.441\n現在請牛煦庭委員發言好謝謝主席這個交通部長有請謝謝請王部長你好你好來慢慢來沒關係\n\n00:34.222 --> 01:01.838\n部長辛苦了大家都關心交通的議題本期當然也是不例外所以今天來提出交通部的一些相關的政策的意見希望跟部長做一些探討我們先從個案開始說起部長這個1200是好政策很多選區的選民我們桃園是通勤的重鎮往返雙北的人數的數量是非常多那1200上任之後其實大家覺得說這個看到了政府在改善交通問題的誠意\n\n01:02.899 --> 01:21.893\n但是我們不希望這樣子的一個政策為德不足有了大額的票價補貼之後你相關的配套措施要跟著上來1200上路之後大家重新開始期待用國道客運去替代私家車來做北逃的通勤但是上路之後\n\n01:23.655 --> 01:44.429\n國道客運的營運狀況卻非常的糟糕這個我舉一個例子比如說南崁的5203A過去由長榮的客運來做營運那其實他去年他就已經說要退場了大家商量他待死延死最後延到今年的2月那2月底之後我們就再進一步去要求後面的配套措施那也跟部裡面做了溝通跟商量\n\n01:45.910 --> 02:10.903\n講說國光、亞通還有後來有多一家義姐會來接手嘛對不對我們本來很期待我們也很願意相信交通部跟公路局解決這個問題的能力我們很高興的跟鄉親宣布說這個帶死的狀況暫時可以緩解大家的燃眉之急可是這個現實總是很骨感因為3月1號開始馬上出現說好的48班直接變成38班而且離峰不是離峰更正昏峰從\n\n02:12.324 --> 02:36.079\n台北回來的時候6點40一班下一班進來是8點40這個是完全沒有辦法輸運這個雙北跟南侃之間通勤的人流那我們辦公室在處理這個個案的時候要求提出說明那速度其實是有一點慢的我要提醒部長這一部分要上緊發條然後我們也要求如果你真的基於班次調度一些困難的話你總要預先跟人民做溝通吧\n\n02:36.579 --> 02:53.576\n你不能說你很辛苦我知道你很辛苦可是人民如果沒有辦法第一時間知道政策的這個變化或者是執行的疏漏的時候那就會出現民怨嘛要不是我們辦公室當初去安排然後要求你當天早上去跟那些排隊的通勤族說明這個民怨會更大\n\n02:54.076 --> 03:08.344\n那我們不希望接下來會一直在處理這樣的事情請部理上緊發條那不只是5203A的問題5203A的問題今天開始看起來是恢復正常48班到位這一點是至少有一點改善可是問題是5203A完了之後換5250A5250B出現狀況啦開始拖班啦\n\n03:13.306 --> 03:41.645\n為什麼脫班呢後來也是問了一大圈問了半天才知道啊原來這個什麼司機離職啊其實也都是老問題欸你不能說這個地方的問題處理完了下個地方火又燒起來不能一直在處理個案的問題啦而且不只是往返於南侃往返桃園也一樣比如說9005、9023其實都是大排長龍很多人在用可是業者也都興趣缺缺那有些這個班制的調度也不是很精準比如說這個9005的回程\n\n03:43.686 --> 03:59.997\n市府轉運站發車下一站就是港前差一站而已可是在港前的桃園鄉親回家排隊等最久那天寒流不到10度在寒風中等兩個半小時才能上車這個其實是車班調度有更細膩可以改善的地方\n\n04:01.697 --> 04:23.782\n9023、9025在去的時候也一樣住在桃園經國轉運站我住轉運站旁邊捏卻因為離發車中心太遠首站變末站結果住轉運站最近的人竟然上不了車凡此種種都表示我們國道客運在桃園的這個執行細節有非常多可以修改的地方這些個案我希望交通部趕快解決部長可以提出解決方案嗎\n\n04:24.502 --> 04:48.402\n我做一個原則的那個就基本上第一個不中斷這是最基本的基本不中斷一定要的嗎那的確在國道客運他因為有這個後來來接手待死不穩定這個現象我這個也有事實上我跟這個局長談過很多次這個是因為他窮盡這個力量去把這個保持這樣的服務品質\n\n04:49.463 --> 05:04.376\n那剛才談的這幾個個案的問題我是不是請那個局長回答一下我時間有些很盡快好不好是個案跟同案個案的部分的話就是說如果說他的這個公司的班制或是車輛駕駛的這個部分因為有些部分或許我們找其他的公司或是遊覽車也來協助啦\n\n05:05.717 --> 05:32.324\n我現在意思就是這樣如果說有班次接不上路線可以調整我們就調整有一些班次比如說9005有一些可以從港前發我覺得這是可以思考的有一些可以從京國轉運站發其實就可以解決調度班次的問題那班次不足的部分比如說5250A如果他繼續拖班那就找其他業者一起來經營我覺得也都OK好不好這些東西我剛剛提到我們會後討論好不好通案我們也有處理通案的話就是說增加價值\n\n05:33.224 --> 05:55.732\n通案問題三個方向這個任期應該會討論這件事討論蠻久的從個案看通案如果通案的問題沒有解決那個案的問題將層出不窮通案的問題三個我相信也是老生常談第一個叫營運困境我們17年沒有檢討運價票價18項成本固定在那個地方那什麼時候會有第一次的調整請部長回答\n\n05:56.277 --> 06:23.073\n那個你就票價的部分嗎?票價他現在已經提出來全聯會提了嘛什麼時候審過大家很關心這個事啦全聯會在我們公路局這邊已經審了給他意見他修正回來了那我們這邊會報交通部對啊報部那所以我問部長大概什麼時候會什麼時候會調整完因為這個關乎客運業者會不會願不願意回頭進場那個公路局送上來我們盡快盡快來核准有沒有具體的時間表一個月兩個月或什麼樣可以嗎\n\n06:26.055 --> 06:42.233\n因為競速啦,因為他還沒送到我這邊齁,啊我們內部也有一個審查的程序齁沒關係,現在請公路局會後再來跟我做報告,跟我確認時間表齁第二個,司機缺員的問題啊當然你們有提出一些相關的計畫但從前年開始,前年喔,到今年的1月目標4800,只來了1414,達成率不到30%\n\n06:45.777 --> 07:00.409\n那表示這個計畫還有可以精進跟修改的地方另外也表示不只是薪資的問題客運業者的營運上班的工作環境是不好的能不能針對工作環境的優化跟改善去修改部分的規則這個我也希望交通部做一個通盤檢討可以嗎\n\n07:02.190 --> 07:20.858\n這個一樣請公路局會後做報告第三個我要提一個概念我們為了要讓路線調度的更順暢這個也不只是限於國道客運市區公車也需要公車的駐車場站但這個駐車場站現在切身未明現在都市計畫裡面它到底是屬於什麼樣的用地我希望交通部跟內政部做一個會商\n\n07:21.578 --> 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