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00:02:19,057\n跟委員報告我是去年的3月份到陶器公司那從到任到陶器公司沒有這樣的一個情況從來沒有是沒有我看到昨天媒體的報導那部長你也從來沒有從陶器公司告訴你這個事情沒有完全沒有\n\n8\n00:02:20,038 --> 00:02:34,687\n那麼待會結束之後我會把這個陳秦涵同樣的我會請我們交通部的府會給我們部長也會給我們陶基公司的董事長請你們看一下\n\n9\n00:02:36,448 --> 00:02:50,456\n這個雖不稱為所謂的自製血淚但是裡面我直接來念進來民進黨派人寄生逃機胃口越來越大站的缺也越來越高桃園機場會這麼爛長久以來的陋習就是基層員工不停地忍受關說裡面也有講\n\n10\n00:03:01,340 --> 00:03:18,201\n他講到有兩位他說安插進來還沒有通過試用期然後甚至之前任職在什麼地方然後直言不會自己是靠高層關說進入陶瓊行為毫不羞恥\n\n11\n00:03:19,189 --> 00:03:32,468\n好,兩人靠關說空降桃園機場弄得全機場人靜皆知,廠商都知道現在食髓滋味還要塞更多人我桃機員工就是建民民進黨人才是人\n\n12\n00:03:33,826 --> 00:04:02,126\n所以這樣的問題如果第一層員工都這樣的不滿跟憤怒那未來你們怎麼帶領淘氣公司呢?我們國家的門面我們現在談到桃園機場的排名直直落最危勢的下降我不要說您說您8月就是董事長去年對不對去年整個都降到82名但是我並不認為這所有的過錯全部放在你一個人身上啦\n\n13\n00:04:02,975 --> 00:04:15,606\n前面就很多是愁庸的啊董事長都愁庸了對不對桃園副市長然後跑去當董事長然後做的亂七八糟最後離開不是這樣子嗎還要繼續塞人\n\n14\n00:04:18,387 --> 00:04:18,567\n另外請教部長\n\n15\n00:04:46,892 --> 00:04:57,779\n昨天我們工程會的主委他提到我們桃園機場第三航站的預算要再修正到1300億元\n\n16\n00:05:01,061 --> 00:05:23,079\n這個是在我們第二次修正計畫從原來最早746.89億一路向上修正到956.8億元這是第二次修正計畫現在又要修正主要提高到1300億我想請問一下我們的修正計畫定案了嗎?送行政院了嗎?確定了嗎?\n\n17\n00:05:26,472 --> 00:05:28,474\n現在要進入第三次修正計畫是嗎?\n\n18\n00:05:47,396 --> 00:06:02,488\n目前我們第三次修正計畫公司這邊已經草擬出來所以現在還沒有報布然後昨天公共工程委員會的主委就說要提高到1300億元那是怎麼樣呢?先斬後奏嗎?還沒有報布然後公共工程委員會就對外說了所以部長就要認賬囉認賬然後就要送到立法院立法院就給你認賬再繼續追加嗎?\n\n19\n00:06:17,697 --> 00:06:18,397\n預計什麼時候會報佈?什麼時候會送院?\n\n20\n00:06:46,392 --> 00:07:11,720\n這個要經過部裡面審查：然後照說一月裡面：最後應該還是會經過公共城委員會的審查：所以後面還有一些程序看起來公共城委員會主委都幫你宣布啦另外請教你這第三次修正計畫除了總經費大幅提高比原來幾乎是翻倍成長之外請問一下在相關的年限完工的時間會不會再修正我們是不是還要遲遲的等是\n\n21\n00:07:14,827 --> 00:07:27,444\n目前我們還是以115年第三行下完工為目標現在目前還是這樣以那個為目標對就是他還沒有講出說有時程修正的事所以讓我們總經理來補充說明一下\n\n22\n00:07:28,409 --> 00:07:44,405\n跟委員報告我們第三行下的相關工程都已經完成發包那目前我們跟廠商的工程契約是到115年的12月左右是完工的期限所以不是全部都發包了嗎那為什麼還要再漲這麼多呢\n\n23\n00:07:46,367 --> 00:08:13,737\n價格為什麼還要再增加都已經發包了嗎對因為發包的話我們在當時我們的發包裡面我們在契約裡面都有物價指數條款那因為如果物條變動太大那廠商如果沒有這個機制可能廠商連做都做不下去所以基本上這個部分是等於讓廠商所以意思是說頭洗下去了現在就受制於廠商不然說我不跟你做下去了又不知道延到民國幾年好啦因為時間的有限\n\n24\n00:08:16,158 --> 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董事長都愁庸了 對不對 桃園副市長 然後跑去當董事長 然後做的亂七八糟最後離開 不是這樣子嗎 還要繼續塞人\n另外請教部長\n昨天我們工程會的主委他提到我們桃園機場第三航站的預算要再修正到1300億元\n這個是在我們第二次修正計畫從原來最早746.89億一路向上修正到956.8億元這是第二次修正計畫現在又要修正主要提高到1300億我想請問一下我們的修正計畫定案了嗎?送行政院了嗎?確定了嗎?\n現在要進入第三次修正計畫是嗎?\n目前我們第三次修正計畫公司這邊已經草擬出來所以現在還沒有報布然後昨天公共工程委員會的主委就說要提高到1300億元那是怎麼樣呢?先斬後奏嗎?還沒有報布然後公共工程委員會就對外說了所以部長就要認賬囉認賬然後就要送到立法院立法院就給你認賬再繼續追加嗎?\n預計什麼時候會報佈?什麼時候會送院?\n這個要經過部裡面審查：然後照說一月裡面：最後應該還是會經過公共城委員會的審查：所以後面還有一些程序看起來公共城委員會主委都幫你宣布啦另外請教你這第三次修正計畫除了總經費大幅提高比原來幾乎是翻倍成長之外請問一下在相關的年限完工的時間會不會再修正我們是不是還要遲遲的等是\n目前我們還是以115年第三行下完工為目標現在目前還是這樣以那個為目標對就是他還沒有講出說有時程修正的事所以讓我們總經理來補充說明一下\n跟委員報告我們第三行下的相關工程都已經完成發包那目前我們跟廠商的工程契約是到115年的12月左右是完工的期限所以不是全部都發包了嗎那為什麼還要再漲這麼多呢\n價格為什麼還要再增加都已經發包了嗎對因為發包的話我們在當時我們的發包裡面我們在契約裡面都有物價指數條款那因為如果物條變動太大那廠商如果沒有這個機制可能廠商連做都做不下去所以基本上這個部分是等於讓廠商所以意思是說頭洗下去了現在就受制於廠商不然說我不跟你做下去了又不知道延到民國幾年好啦因為時間的有限\n所以我先只確定說你預計下個月是下個月要報布是吧還是這個月這個月這個月中會報布那到時候我再跟你們要資料知道整個第三次修正計畫的全貌謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.774 --> 00:15.707\n謝謝主席我請我們王部長還有我們陶基公司董事長楊董事長\n\n00:22.075 --> 00:42.301\n昨天我揭露我們桃機公司這個員工提供給我的澄清函提到我們鄭文燦副院長陸續安插他當年在桃園市的時候的一些相關的員工進入了我們桃機公司\n\n00:43.191 --> 01:10.349\n因為這兩天大家的聚焦都是在最近我們機場因為稅休然後造成的整個大塞機那當然淘氣公司也受到很多的責難那我特別要講如果一家公司他動不動就有人事酬庸動不動就有特定的人事把自己人塞進公司裡面當然會造成員工的士氣低落\n\n01:11.417 --> 01:22.113\n那麼當淘氣公司出事的時候這些員工他心裡也非常非常的難受那我昨天披露之後呢今天媒體有問您\n\n01:24.066 --> 01:47.534\n問王部長：部長說沒有這回事那我先想請教我們的董事長在你任內有沒有曾經有員工跟你反映這樣的事情你是否也像本席一樣接受過陶基公司這樣的陳秦涵就是直接的他非常清楚\n\n01:48.254 --> 01:59.636\n哪些人被塞進來哪些人在哪些單位他寫得清清楚楚你是否曾經在你任內收過類似的陳情函\n\n02:01.443 --> 02:19.057\n跟委員報告我是去年的3月份到陶器公司那從到任到陶器公司沒有這樣的一個情況從來沒有是沒有我看到昨天媒體的報導那部長你也從來沒有從陶器公司告訴你這個事情沒有完全沒有\n\n02:20.038 --> 02:34.687\n那麼待會結束之後我會把這個陳秦涵同樣的我會請我們交通部的府會給我們部長也會給我們陶基公司的董事長請你們看一下\n\n02:36.448 --> 02:50.456\n這個雖不稱為所謂的自製血淚但是裡面我直接來念進來民進黨派人寄生逃機胃口越來越大站的缺也越來越高桃園機場會這麼爛長久以來的陋習就是基層員工不停地忍受關說裡面也有講\n\n03:01.340 --> 03:18.201\n他講到有兩位他說安插進來還沒有通過試用期然後甚至之前任職在什麼地方然後直言不會自己是靠高層關說進入陶瓊行為毫不羞恥\n\n03:19.189 --> 03:32.468\n好,兩人靠關說空降桃園機場弄得全機場人靜皆知,廠商都知道現在食髓滋味還要塞更多人我桃機員工就是建民民進黨人才是人\n\n03:33.826 --> 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