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00:03:24,003\n這個部分的話我想我剛講過就是要有更多的社會共識社會共識好謝謝你這部分的一個詢問來做一個表態那我想不知道院長知不知道我們故宮曾經擠身全球百大前史成為最多人參觀的博物館展覽2015年4月13日媒體報導根據是英國的藝術報\n\n11\n00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:57,347\n他的統計2014年全球最多人參觀的博物館展覽當中台北故宮博物院我們就是有包辦前三名當時觀光人數來到540多萬我們都知道故宮在這前兩年疫情的一個摧殘當中觀光人數真的是慘不忍睹包括我所看到官網統計的數字是北院155萬左右那南院是95萬左右總共大約250萬人次這部分你有掌握嗎\n\n12\n00:03:59,597 --> 00:04:04,280\n為什麼他當時能夠來到540萬我們評估故宮有一半的訪客是入客只有三分之一的人潮是當地的旅客那當時2015年\n\n13\n00:04:29,577 --> 00:04:45,294\n沒有故宮南院南院也是2015年的12月左右才成立的現在兩院加起來250多萬一部分受到疫情的影響當然我們不能夠去怪罪博物館這邊但是一部分受到兩岸關係的惡化我想\n\n14\n00:04:46,395 --> 00:05:00,948\n目前我們疫情後逐漸復甦但是我們兩岸關係觀光旅客已經確定人數不負往日的風光我想現在入客進不來我們只能夠期待其他的國家那我想例如韓國日本其他東南亞的國家參訪\n\n15\n00:05:03,169 --> 00:05:24,004\n眾觀故宮去年的參觀人數北院院區參觀人數155萬其中國際旅客與韓國36.6%最多日本我記得是27.5G次我想昨天網路上流傳一個圖片我想跟你分享一下不知道院長有沒有看過這張圖是左手邊\n\n16\n00:05:26,205 --> 00:05:54,438\n我們把它改成了右手邊這樣子我想同理可證我們看到國內旅遊真的蠻貴的所以大家都往國外跑反而去日本旅遊好像比較便宜這個問題同樣也反映在故宮的身上這是我們看到日本遊客我們以前很多但在疫情以後情況似乎有些轉變日本遊客不一定這麼愛來台灣也因此我想詢問一下院長目前入客無法前來的情況之下\n\n17\n00:05:54,918 --> 00:06:01,391\n故宮有沒有什麼新的措施吸引更多外國國外的一個觀光旅客來回流\n\n18\n00:06:03,102 --> 00:06:29,364\n跟委員報告就是委員資料上也顯示就是說去年故宮參訪的有可以韓國居多那當然就是說剛好也是一個那樣的一個機緣所以故宮博物院增加我們官網的韓語的網站然後另外出版韓語的導覽手冊當然此外的話就是故宮南院剛好辦理了朝鮮與清宮的文化特展所以這多多少少都對那個\n\n19\n00:06:31,205 --> 00:06:55,334\n韓國的旅客增加有幫助我想更加友善是我們現在做的但是我們緊接而來有沒有更具體的作為可以把這個國際觀光客再引來我們台灣呢因為整個國際疫情的影響所以觀眾在從事那個文化交流的次序的話基本上來講的話稍微緩慢一點以入境的旅客來講的話觀光局入境旅客的話\n\n20\n00:06:56,074 --> 00:07:15,128\n稍後跟旅業,旅業的話就是譬如說外籍移工他們的數字比較多那稍後旅客的話一般來講的話在疫情之後的話都是用一種很快速短程的所以基本上旅遊的部分開放的比較晚所以去年的話我們是跟觀光局合作推出郵輪的專案今年會繼續辦理\n\n21\n00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:18,811\n我想本期還是要提醒新政院在107年1月24的新聞稿有提到113年新故宮的計畫\n\n22\n00:07:37,657 --> 00:07:44,020\n建設完成後預期創造南北院的參觀人數達800萬那我想門票與文創收入分別成長3.8億及5.6億國際及國內參觀的消費者產生會有1.347億元現在的觀光人數我們看到是250萬那800萬怎麼達成當然疫情我們真的都不能夠去怪罪\n\n23\n00:08:01,647 --> 00:08:15,898\n未來這800萬我們要怎麼去達到這個目標我希望我可以看到有更具體的作為可以會後跟我們討論那第二個我想跟你請教一下如果如何推廣故宮的一個文物在故宮的業務報告第三頁我們有看到\n\n24\n00:08:17,457 --> 00:08:35,692\n關網提供展覽主題的網站服務及豐富的線上資源我想就我們看到故宮的YouTube7.15萬人的一個訂閱但裡面所拍攝的文物介紹觀看人數不到400觀看人數這麼少院長你會不會覺得拍攝的人都覺得很心寒\n\n25\n00:08:39,158 --> 00:08:58,375\n基本上來講的話社群媒體的話它的流量的話就是要看什麼時候所以我想這個社群媒體的經營如果有一個比較特殊的議題的話流量就馬上衝高比如說我一個小女生在DECA上面講說那個什麼故宮的那個不能用文化幣然後那天的話我們的流量的話就飆得特別高\n\n26\n00:08:58,635 --> 00:09:04,579\n姑公在文物介紹推廣我想還是要實際的一個加強當然不是只是花錢買廣告怎麼讓它更有流量更多人點閱我想這是要會後來探討的我想關切有關2002年的文物損壞的一個問題共有三件典藏的瓷器破損目前的修復狀況如何\n\n27\n00:09:23,335 --> 00:09:47,611\n都已經完全修復了然後也做了公開展示根據省紀部的一個查核顯示近10年故宮院長已經抽點了15000餘件文物此修復文件文物約有437件待修復那我想為實際修復的數量只有79件不及兩成比例稍有落差這部分你要怎麼加強\n\n28\n00:09:49,046 --> 00:09:49,086\n現在單修437嗎?\n\n29\n00:10:09,564 --> 00:10:28,399\n對抽點的情況抽點的情況的話基本上來講抽點有發現他有變異的時候我們也會要求修復但是如果有一些文物他沒有要應用沒有要展覽所以並不急著修復的時候有時候我們會維持他的一個穩定的狀態\n\n30\n00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:49,085\n國人都非常關心文物損壞的一個修復情形尤其是最好不要再有任何的損壞我們也會持續關注這樣的議題但目前我所要強調的是待修復的文件你們已經列出437件我們看到實際修復只有79件不到兩成我想國人也非常關心未來修復的情形能夠再加強\n\n31\n00:10:49,765 --> 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驟然改名的話要有更多的社會共識好那我想前故宮的院長吳院長曾經說過故宮的人事制度上有一個弱點那就是沒有任期制我想在這一點會跟著政黨輪替的變化那我想你認為應該要有任期制嗎院長\n149139\t162336\t這個部分的話他跟其他的那個政府指示或是機構不一樣因為他如果是他是一個行政法人或是一個董事會的機制當然有所謂的任期制可是以全世界來講的話\n164258\t164818\t你支持草法人化經營嗎?\n187868\t204003\t這個部分的話我想我剛講過就是要有更多的社會共識社會共識好謝謝你這部分的一個詢問來做一個表態那我想不知道院長知不知道我們故宮曾經擠身全球百大前史成為最多人參觀的博物館展覽2015年4月13日媒體報導根據是英國的藝術報\n208667\t237347\t他的統計2014年全球最多人參觀的博物館展覽當中台北故宮博物院我們就是有包辦前三名當時觀光人數來到540多萬我們都知道故宮在這前兩年疫情的一個摧殘當中觀光人數真的是慘不忍睹包括我所看到官網統計的數字是北院155萬左右那南院是95萬左右總共大約250萬人次這部分你有掌握嗎\n239597\t244280\t為什麼他當時能夠來到540萬我們評估故宮有一半的訪客是入客只有三分之一的人潮是當地的旅客那當時2015年\n269577\t285294\t沒有故宮南院南院也是2015年的12月左右才成立的現在兩院加起來250多萬一部分受到疫情的影響當然我們不能夠去怪罪博物館這邊但是一部分受到兩岸關係的惡化我想\n286395\t300948\t目前我們疫情後逐漸復甦但是我們兩岸關係觀光旅客已經確定人數不負往日的風光我想現在入客進不來我們只能夠期待其他的國家那我想例如韓國日本其他東南亞的國家參訪\n303169\t324004\t眾觀故宮去年的參觀人數北院院區參觀人數155萬其中國際旅客與韓國36.6%最多日本我記得是27.5G次我想昨天網路上流傳一個圖片我想跟你分享一下不知道院長有沒有看過這張圖是左手邊\n326205\t354438\t我們把它改成了右手邊這樣子我想同理可證我們看到國內旅遊真的蠻貴的所以大家都往國外跑反而去日本旅遊好像比較便宜這個問題同樣也反映在故宮的身上這是我們看到日本遊客我們以前很多但在疫情以後情況似乎有些轉變日本遊客不一定這麼愛來台灣也因此我想詢問一下院長目前入客無法前來的情況之下\n354918\t361391\t故宮有沒有什麼新的措施吸引更多外國國外的一個觀光旅客來回流\n363102\t389364\t跟委員報告就是委員資料上也顯示就是說去年故宮參訪的有可以韓國居多那當然就是說剛好也是一個那樣的一個機緣所以故宮博物院增加我們官網的韓語的網站然後另外出版韓語的導覽手冊當然此外的話就是故宮南院剛好辦理了朝鮮與清宮的文化特展所以這多多少少都對那個\n391205\t415334\t韓國的旅客增加有幫助我想更加友善是我們現在做的但是我們緊接而來有沒有更具體的作為可以把這個國際觀光客再引來我們台灣呢因為整個國際疫情的影響所以觀眾在從事那個文化交流的次序的話基本上來講的話稍微緩慢一點以入境的旅客來講的話觀光局入境旅客的話\n416074\t435128\t稍後跟旅業,旅業的話就是譬如說外籍移工他們的數字比較多那稍後旅客的話一般來講的話在疫情之後的話都是用一種很快速短程的所以基本上旅遊的部分開放的比較晚所以去年的話我們是跟觀光局合作推出郵輪的專案今年會繼續辦理\n437270\t438811\t我想本期還是要提醒新政院在107年1月24的新聞稿有提到113年新故宮的計畫\n457657\t464020\t建設完成後預期創造南北院的參觀人數達800萬那我想門票與文創收入分別成長3.8億及5.6億國際及國內參觀的消費者產生會有1.347億元現在的觀光人數我們看到是250萬那800萬怎麼達成當然疫情我們真的都不能夠去怪罪\n481647\t495898\t未來這800萬我們要怎麼去達到這個目標我希望我可以看到有更具體的作為可以會後跟我們討論那第二個我想跟你請教一下如果如何推廣故宮的一個文物在故宮的業務報告第三頁我們有看到\n497457\t515692\t關網提供展覽主題的網站服務及豐富的線上資源我想就我們看到故宮的YouTube7.15萬人的一個訂閱但裡面所拍攝的文物介紹觀看人數不到400觀看人數這麼少院長你會不會覺得拍攝的人都覺得很心寒\n519158\t538375\t基本上來講的話社群媒體的話它的流量的話就是要看什麼時候所以我想這個社群媒體的經營如果有一個比較特殊的議題的話流量就馬上衝高比如說我一個小女生在DECA上面講說那個什麼故宮的那個不能用文化幣然後那天的話我們的流量的話就飆得特別高\n538635\t544579\t姑公在文物介紹推廣我想還是要實際的一個加強當然不是只是花錢買廣告怎麼讓它更有流量更多人點閱我想這是要會後來探討的我想關切有關2002年的文物損壞的一個問題共有三件典藏的瓷器破損目前的修復狀況如何\n563335\t587611\t都已經完全修復了然後也做了公開展示根據省紀部的一個查核顯示近10年故宮院長已經抽點了15000餘件文物此修復文件文物約有437件待修復那我想為實際修復的數量只有79件不及兩成比例稍有落差這部分你要怎麼加強\n589046\t589086\t現在單修437嗎?\n609564\t628399\t對抽點的情況抽點的情況的話基本上來講抽點有發現他有變異的時候我們也會要求修復但是如果有一些文物他沒有要應用沒有要展覽所以並不急著修復的時候有時候我們會維持他的一個穩定的狀態\n630040\t649085\t國人都非常關心文物損壞的一個修復情形尤其是最好不要再有任何的損壞我們也會持續關注這樣的議題但目前我所要強調的是待修復的文件你們已經列出437件我們看到實際修復只有79件不到兩成我想國人也非常關心未來修復的情形能夠再加強\n649765\t660904\t昨年的話我們的維修所謂維修的話是檢視跟修復的話有753件基本上來講資料上面可能我們要再釐清一下好那我們會後再來釐清我們實際的數據好嗎謝謝\n","txt":"委員好謝謝主席有請校院長好院長\n院長早 院長我想說跟你討論一下那個主改的問題故宮現在為二級機關跟教育部文化部都同屬一個部會等級他是國家組織層級當中我想這是最高的一個博物館那想近幾年還有人在討論這個部會他們有沒有要討論這個主改的問題我想故宮主改的議題院長你怎麼看\n基本上來講主改的話是行政院的整個對組織編制對整個國立的一個規劃那主改的部分的話基本上來講我過去也曾經講過就是說我在文化部裡面也沒有聽說那個故宮要把它放進到文化部的\n院長,你覺得故宮未來的定位是什麼?\n故宮未來的定位基本上來講做一個行政組織的架構似乎是有待商榷的因為全世界博物館的話都不見得是一個政府的行政組織的概念而是一個文化機構的專業組織\n我想請問一下新聞媒體有報導過有人在討論說要改名稱華夏博物館博物院對不起那你覺得你認同嗎\n基本上來講我講他有一個嚴嚴脈絡 驟然改名的話要有更多的社會共識好那我想前故宮的院長吳院長曾經說過故宮的人事制度上有一個弱點那就是沒有任期制我想在這一點會跟著政黨輪替的變化那我想你認為應該要有任期制嗎院長\n這個部分的話他跟其他的那個政府指示或是機構不一樣因為他如果是他是一個行政法人或是一個董事會的機制當然有所謂的任期制可是以全世界來講的話\n你支持草法人化經營嗎?\n這個部分的話我想我剛講過就是要有更多的社會共識社會共識好謝謝你這部分的一個詢問來做一個表態那我想不知道院長知不知道我們故宮曾經擠身全球百大前史成為最多人參觀的博物館展覽2015年4月13日媒體報導根據是英國的藝術報\n他的統計2014年全球最多人參觀的博物館展覽當中台北故宮博物院我們就是有包辦前三名當時觀光人數來到540多萬我們都知道故宮在這前兩年疫情的一個摧殘當中觀光人數真的是慘不忍睹包括我所看到官網統計的數字是北院155萬左右那南院是95萬左右總共大約250萬人次這部分你有掌握嗎\n為什麼他當時能夠來到540萬我們評估故宮有一半的訪客是入客只有三分之一的人潮是當地的旅客那當時2015年\n沒有故宮南院南院也是2015年的12月左右才成立的現在兩院加起來250多萬一部分受到疫情的影響當然我們不能夠去怪罪博物館這邊但是一部分受到兩岸關係的惡化我想\n目前我們疫情後逐漸復甦但是我們兩岸關係觀光旅客已經確定人數不負往日的風光我想現在入客進不來我們只能夠期待其他的國家那我想例如韓國日本其他東南亞的國家參訪\n眾觀故宮去年的參觀人數北院院區參觀人數155萬其中國際旅客與韓國36.6%最多日本我記得是27.5G次我想昨天網路上流傳一個圖片我想跟你分享一下不知道院長有沒有看過這張圖是左手邊\n我們把它改成了右手邊這樣子我想同理可證我們看到國內旅遊真的蠻貴的所以大家都往國外跑反而去日本旅遊好像比較便宜這個問題同樣也反映在故宮的身上這是我們看到日本遊客我們以前很多但在疫情以後情況似乎有些轉變日本遊客不一定這麼愛來台灣也因此我想詢問一下院長目前入客無法前來的情況之下\n故宮有沒有什麼新的措施吸引更多外國國外的一個觀光旅客來回流\n跟委員報告就是委員資料上也顯示就是說去年故宮參訪的有可以韓國居多那當然就是說剛好也是一個那樣的一個機緣所以故宮博物院增加我們官網的韓語的網站然後另外出版韓語的導覽手冊當然此外的話就是故宮南院剛好辦理了朝鮮與清宮的文化特展所以這多多少少都對那個\n韓國的旅客增加有幫助我想更加友善是我們現在做的但是我們緊接而來有沒有更具體的作為可以把這個國際觀光客再引來我們台灣呢因為整個國際疫情的影響所以觀眾在從事那個文化交流的次序的話基本上來講的話稍微緩慢一點以入境的旅客來講的話觀光局入境旅客的話\n稍後跟旅業,旅業的話就是譬如說外籍移工他們的數字比較多那稍後旅客的話一般來講的話在疫情之後的話都是用一種很快速短程的所以基本上旅遊的部分開放的比較晚所以去年的話我們是跟觀光局合作推出郵輪的專案今年會繼續辦理\n我想本期還是要提醒新政院在107年1月24的新聞稿有提到113年新故宮的計畫\n建設完成後預期創造南北院的參觀人數達800萬那我想門票與文創收入分別成長3.8億及5.6億國際及國內參觀的消費者產生會有1.347億元現在的觀光人數我們看到是250萬那800萬怎麼達成當然疫情我們真的都不能夠去怪罪\n未來這800萬我們要怎麼去達到這個目標我希望我可以看到有更具體的作為可以會後跟我們討論那第二個我想跟你請教一下如果如何推廣故宮的一個文物在故宮的業務報告第三頁我們有看到\n關網提供展覽主題的網站服務及豐富的線上資源我想就我們看到故宮的YouTube7.15萬人的一個訂閱但裡面所拍攝的文物介紹觀看人數不到400觀看人數這麼少院長你會不會覺得拍攝的人都覺得很心寒\n基本上來講的話社群媒體的話它的流量的話就是要看什麼時候所以我想這個社群媒體的經營如果有一個比較特殊的議題的話流量就馬上衝高比如說我一個小女生在DECA上面講說那個什麼故宮的那個不能用文化幣然後那天的話我們的流量的話就飆得特別高\n姑公在文物介紹推廣我想還是要實際的一個加強當然不是只是花錢買廣告怎麼讓它更有流量更多人點閱我想這是要會後來探討的我想關切有關2002年的文物損壞的一個問題共有三件典藏的瓷器破損目前的修復狀況如何\n都已經完全修復了然後也做了公開展示根據省紀部的一個查核顯示近10年故宮院長已經抽點了15000餘件文物此修復文件文物約有437件待修復那我想為實際修復的數量只有79件不及兩成比例稍有落差這部分你要怎麼加強\n現在單修437嗎?\n對抽點的情況抽點的情況的話基本上來講抽點有發現他有變異的時候我們也會要求修復但是如果有一些文物他沒有要應用沒有要展覽所以並不急著修復的時候有時候我們會維持他的一個穩定的狀態\n國人都非常關心文物損壞的一個修復情形尤其是最好不要再有任何的損壞我們也會持續關注這樣的議題但目前我所要強調的是待修復的文件你們已經列出437件我們看到實際修復只有79件不到兩成我想國人也非常關心未來修復的情形能夠再加強\n昨年的話我們的維修所謂維修的話是檢視跟修復的話有753件基本上來講資料上面可能我們要再釐清一下好那我們會後再來釐清我們實際的數據好嗎謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.240 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