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00:00:56,888\n回到部裡面我會找我們的幕僚討論一下那到底這委員的給我們的一些指教或者我們答應委員要做的事情要怎麼樣進行所以那個時間並不是說我不是在耍花樣我沒有請民意代表要去糟蹋那種行我們很多事情還要去做去做\n\n4\n00:00:58,393 --> 00:01:15,618\n第二個就是說當天那個食安會議的時候那因為我預期到有委員會要開所以一定是預先請假而且指派代表我沒有辦法去預期說委員會幾點會結束因為那個是召委的權責所以\n\n5\n00:01:16,378 --> 00:01:39,154\n這個部分的話我已經請了代理當然我就照我的schedule講那剛剛也是提到我們委員會開完我不是就沒事了所以我還是必須要回去做一些準備那怎麼樣來處理這些相關的問題那當然國人關心的這個食安的這個議題食品安全那我們希望就是說在這個\n\n6\n00:01:40,695 --> 00:01:40,915\n黃秀芳議員\n\n7\n00:01:57,268 --> 00:02:24,545\n現在大家就疑慮各縣市有的縣市會認為就是說在這個時燈平台已經可以很清楚那有的縣市可能會有疑慮那就停了這個營養午餐使用辣椒粉或者是咖哩粉那這樣子會造成很多人就是會恐慌所以我是不是在這邊要要求食藥署針對後市場的部分應該要在短時間內要趕快把它釐清\n\n8\n00:02:25,505 --> 00:02:44,722\n根本報告就是第一層進口的廠商那被查到有問題的這個我們已經能夠掌握然後他往下走賣給哪一些廠商這個我們也能夠掌握那第二層的這些加工廠做出來之後的成品賣到哪裡去的話\n\n9\n00:02:45,222 --> 00:03:11,045\n在我們的非追系統裡面是沒有辦法完全都查到的所以我們就變成要每一家每一家去查看你賣到哪裡去那賣到哪裡去的時候我們就到那一個他所指出來的這個廠商去看他的這些使用這個辣椒粉到底是有哪一些產品那這些我們還要把它抽回來去做檢驗因為如果沒有\n\n10\n00:03:11,505 --> 00:03:27,377\n沒有這個違規的我們也不能就把人家禁掉所以還必須要把它抽回來那再做進一步的一個檢驗確定是這個沒有了那我們才能夠把它封存銷毀所以這個事情就是變成是比較細\n\n11\n00:03:29,438 --> 00:03:53,393\n當然如果說一個違規的產品如果它的那個風險是非常非常的高我們大概一下子就禁止然後全部都下架但是這一個東西的話事實上是致癌致癌物的第三級風險並不如想像那麼高而我們這一個整個的民間在使用這種辣椒粉\n\n12\n00:03:54,113 --> 00:03:57,856\n當然就是說食品安全的這個議題我們希望就是說那個食藥署這邊齁後市場的部分真的要趕快\n\n13\n00:04:13,308 --> 00:04:17,610\n養育津貼的這個部分,因為在去年我們也有開過記者會,幾位委員開過記者會。我想說這個兒童節也快到了。\n\n14\n00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:57,817\n這個早產兒的養育津貼因為家裡面如果有一個早產兒的話在前6個月其實健康照護的這個支出比健康逐月生出來的這個寶寶所支出的可能要多4倍那我想請教就是說我們現在整個少子化在2023年所有新生兒的這個出生率\n\n15\n00:04:58,397 --> 00:04:58,477\n黃秀芳\n\n16\n00:05:16,792 --> 00:05:43,872\n我們就這一點我們正在找一些相關的團體大家來做討論第一個就是說這個所謂早產的他的這個健康照護的支出是比較高的到底高在哪一些項目上面那如果可能的話我們會用十五幾戶的方式我們比較不想用發現金的方式因為發現金之後父母會拿去做什麼你不知道結果這個小孩子還是沒照顧到這個是我們要避免的\n\n17\n00:05:44,953 --> 00:06:13,994\n所以不論是早產的他可能是需要一些營養品或者是眼睛可能會有一些問題或者是肺部會有一些問題那像針對這一部分我剛我也認同部長的這個所說的就是可能用實際的這個補助他需要的這個營養品的一個補助或者是藥品的這個補助我認同那是不是說可以盡速趕快去做一個整理好謝謝那另外就是說\n\n18\n00:06:16,176 --> 00:06:41,892\n這個我們國家挹注的這個兒童專科醫院其實是沒有國家支援挹注的這個兒童的專科醫院像臺大醫院他也算他只是有一個這個兒童醫院他只是有一個建築那很多還是跟成人的一起使用那他也算是只是兒科的一部分就是兒科\n\n19\n00:06:43,433 --> 00:07:08,109\n對,像往南的話就剩下這個還有最南就是彰化基督教醫院有一個兒童醫院應該高雄那邊還有高雄現在有嗎?沒有啊,目前我們看到是沒有啊高一現在是有那我想請教就是說其實我們看到從這個南部或者是東部其實兒童的這個新生兒的這個死亡率其實一直都沒有\n\n20\n00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:37,138\n就是覺得都比例都還是偏高那會不會跟我們沒有這個兒童的這個專科專科的這個醫療會不會是有關跟我們報告針對這一點的話我們就是也注意到所以我們推出了一個優化兒童醫療照護的計畫那這個計畫的話在原來的前三年的話是經費是比較少那今年是第四年我們把預算增加了\n\n21\n00:07:38,318 --> 00:08:02,964\n明年可能還會繼續再推這第二期這一個部分的話我們會有所謂的核心醫院跟重點醫院另外一個又有專職醫師核心醫院就是比較高的能夠去訓練人力然後來做重男罕症的治療這個部分\n\n22\n00:08:04,864 --> 00:08:18,016\n重點醫院的部分我們希望一個縣市至少要有一家他要做什麼他必須要提供24小時有兒科的專科醫師能夠來看急診或是cover急診\n\n23\n00:08:19,850 --> 00:08:40,766\n第二就是他必須要早產能夠做照顧,也就是說要有新生兒的家戶病房當然更好的是說有兒童家戶病房,會有分級,所以這部分的話我們都會給他補助其中對兒科醫師的話,大概重點醫院跟核心醫院的部分的話,我們會給\n\n24\n00:08:42,227 --> 00:08:45,890\n最後因為時間的關係最後我想請教就是說很多委員在關心就是我們的這個掛號費\n\n25\n00:09:11,691 --> 00:09:33,627\n就是沒有去這個有關這個公號費這個上限那也沒有去做一個這個備查的這個制度所以我想請教就是說未來如果說是經濟弱勢的民眾那他可能會考慮到這個公號費真的太貴了那可能會影響到他的整個就醫的這個權利所以我想請教部長就針對這些經濟弱勢的民眾怎麼處理\n\n26\n00:09:36,909 --> 00:09:56,246\n其實經濟弱勢民眾有公財回饋金分配給各縣市政府本來公財回饋金裡面的使用就有包括經濟弱勢就醫的時候的掛號費等等這些就可以給他補助\n\n27\n00:09:57,506 --> 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謝謝那另外就是說\n376176\t401892\t這個我們國家挹注的這個兒童專科醫院其實是沒有國家支援挹注的這個兒童的專科醫院像臺大醫院他也算他只是有一個這個兒童醫院他只是有一個建築那很多還是跟成人的一起使用那他也算是只是兒科的一部分就是兒科\n403433\t428109\t對,像往南的話就剩下這個還有最南就是彰化基督教醫院有一個兒童醫院應該高雄那邊還有高雄現在有嗎?沒有啊,目前我們看到是沒有啊高一現在是有那我想請教就是說其實我們看到從這個南部或者是東部其實兒童的這個新生兒的這個死亡率其實一直都沒有\n428829\t457138\t就是覺得都比例都還是偏高那會不會跟我們沒有這個兒童的這個專科專科的這個醫療會不會是有關跟我們報告針對這一點的話我們就是也注意到所以我們推出了一個優化兒童醫療照護的計畫那這個計畫的話在原來的前三年的話是經費是比較少那今年是第四年我們把預算增加了\n458318\t482964\t明年可能還會繼續再推這第二期這一個部分的話我們會有所謂的核心醫院跟重點醫院另外一個又有專職醫師核心醫院就是比較高的能夠去訓練人力然後來做重男罕症的治療這個部分\n484864\t498016\t重點醫院的部分我們希望一個縣市至少要有一家他要做什麼他必須要提供24小時有兒科的專科醫師能夠來看急診或是cover急診\n499850\t520766\t第二就是他必須要早產能夠做照顧,也就是說要有新生兒的家戶病房當然更好的是說有兒童家戶病房,會有分級,所以這部分的話我們都會給他補助其中對兒科醫師的話,大概重點醫院跟核心醫院的部分的話,我們會給\n522227\t525890\t最後因為時間的關係最後我想請教就是說很多委員在關心就是我們的這個掛號費\n551691\t573627\t就是沒有去這個有關這個公號費這個上限那也沒有去做一個這個備查的這個制度所以我想請教就是說未來如果說是經濟弱勢的民眾那他可能會考慮到這個公號費真的太貴了那可能會影響到他的整個就醫的這個權利所以我想請教部長就針對這些經濟弱勢的民眾怎麼處理\n576909\t596246\t其實經濟弱勢民眾有公財回饋金分配給各縣市政府本來公財回饋金裡面的使用就有包括經濟弱勢就醫的時候的掛號費等等這些就可以給他補助\n597506\t622841\t所以我也想請部長針對目前我們這個公號費的這個上限就是你們沒有特意去就是說要有一個公號費的上限那你們是不是也要有一個一段時間去觀察到底這些診所、診所、醫院區域醫院、地區醫院或者是醫學中心這個調整之後會有什麼對民眾有什麼樣的影響我覺得你們應該也要有一個配套\n624122\t646441\t不過可能就是說我們會從那個公立醫院開始公立醫院大概不會去醫院馬上就做調整所以公立醫院應該是暫時不會長所以公立醫院目前這個掛號費應該不會有所調整對那其他的醫院或者診所如果有調整的話那如果有聯合行為那就是要交給公平會去長\n646681\t646961\t黃秀芳議員\n","txt":"黃秀芳委員進行質詢。謝謝主席,我們請部長。好,有請部長。\n第一點就是說我們每一次在委員會開完會議之後我會找\n回到部裡面我會找我們的幕僚討論一下那到底這委員的給我們的一些指教或者我們答應委員要做的事情要怎麼樣進行所以那個時間並不是說我不是在耍花樣我沒有請民意代表要去糟蹋那種行我們很多事情還要去做去做\n第二個就是說當天那個食安會議的時候那因為我預期到有委員會要開所以一定是預先請假而且指派代表我沒有辦法去預期說委員會幾點會結束因為那個是召委的權責所以\n這個部分的話我已經請了代理當然我就照我的schedule講那剛剛也是提到我們委員會開完我不是就沒事了所以我還是必須要回去做一些準備那怎麼樣來處理這些相關的問題那當然國人關心的這個食安的這個議題食品安全那我們希望就是說在這個\n黃秀芳議員\n現在大家就疑慮各縣市有的縣市會認為就是說在這個時燈平台已經可以很清楚那有的縣市可能會有疑慮那就停了這個營養午餐使用辣椒粉或者是咖哩粉那這樣子會造成很多人就是會恐慌所以我是不是在這邊要要求食藥署針對後市場的部分應該要在短時間內要趕快把它釐清\n根本報告就是第一層進口的廠商那被查到有問題的這個我們已經能夠掌握然後他往下走賣給哪一些廠商這個我們也能夠掌握那第二層的這些加工廠做出來之後的成品賣到哪裡去的話\n在我們的非追系統裡面是沒有辦法完全都查到的所以我們就變成要每一家每一家去查看你賣到哪裡去那賣到哪裡去的時候我們就到那一個他所指出來的這個廠商去看他的這些使用這個辣椒粉到底是有哪一些產品那這些我們還要把它抽回來去做檢驗因為如果沒有\n沒有這個違規的我們也不能就把人家禁掉所以還必須要把它抽回來那再做進一步的一個檢驗確定是這個沒有了那我們才能夠把它封存銷毀所以這個事情就是變成是比較細\n當然如果說一個違規的產品如果它的那個風險是非常非常的高我們大概一下子就禁止然後全部都下架但是這一個東西的話事實上是致癌致癌物的第三級風險並不如想像那麼高而我們這一個整個的民間在使用這種辣椒粉\n當然就是說食品安全的這個議題我們希望就是說那個食藥署這邊齁後市場的部分真的要趕快\n養育津貼的這個部分,因為在去年我們也有開過記者會,幾位委員開過記者會。我想說這個兒童節也快到了。\n這個早產兒的養育津貼因為家裡面如果有一個早產兒的話在前6個月其實健康照護的這個支出比健康逐月生出來的這個寶寶所支出的可能要多4倍那我想請教就是說我們現在整個少子化在2023年所有新生兒的這個出生率\n黃秀芳\n我們就這一點我們正在找一些相關的團體大家來做討論第一個就是說這個所謂早產的他的這個健康照護的支出是比較高的到底高在哪一些項目上面那如果可能的話我們會用十五幾戶的方式我們比較不想用發現金的方式因為發現金之後父母會拿去做什麼你不知道結果這個小孩子還是沒照顧到這個是我們要避免的\n所以不論是早產的他可能是需要一些營養品或者是眼睛可能會有一些問題或者是肺部會有一些問題那像針對這一部分我剛我也認同部長的這個所說的就是可能用實際的這個補助他需要的這個營養品的一個補助或者是藥品的這個補助我認同那是不是說可以盡速趕快去做一個整理好 謝謝那另外就是說\n這個我們國家挹注的這個兒童專科醫院其實是沒有國家支援挹注的這個兒童的專科醫院像臺大醫院他也算他只是有一個這個兒童醫院他只是有一個建築那很多還是跟成人的一起使用那他也算是只是兒科的一部分就是兒科\n對,像往南的話就剩下這個還有最南就是彰化基督教醫院有一個兒童醫院應該高雄那邊還有高雄現在有嗎?沒有啊,目前我們看到是沒有啊高一現在是有那我想請教就是說其實我們看到從這個南部或者是東部其實兒童的這個新生兒的這個死亡率其實一直都沒有\n就是覺得都比例都還是偏高那會不會跟我們沒有這個兒童的這個專科專科的這個醫療會不會是有關跟我們報告針對這一點的話我們就是也注意到所以我們推出了一個優化兒童醫療照護的計畫那這個計畫的話在原來的前三年的話是經費是比較少那今年是第四年我們把預算增加了\n明年可能還會繼續再推這第二期這一個部分的話我們會有所謂的核心醫院跟重點醫院另外一個又有專職醫師核心醫院就是比較高的能夠去訓練人力然後來做重男罕症的治療這個部分\n重點醫院的部分我們希望一個縣市至少要有一家他要做什麼他必須要提供24小時有兒科的專科醫師能夠來看急診或是cover急診\n第二就是他必須要早產能夠做照顧,也就是說要有新生兒的家戶病房當然更好的是說有兒童家戶病房,會有分級,所以這部分的話我們都會給他補助其中對兒科醫師的話,大概重點醫院跟核心醫院的部分的話,我們會給\n最後因為時間的關係最後我想請教就是說很多委員在關心就是我們的這個掛號費\n就是沒有去這個有關這個公號費這個上限那也沒有去做一個這個備查的這個制度所以我想請教就是說未來如果說是經濟弱勢的民眾那他可能會考慮到這個公號費真的太貴了那可能會影響到他的整個就醫的這個權利所以我想請教部長就針對這些經濟弱勢的民眾怎麼處理\n其實經濟弱勢民眾有公財回饋金分配給各縣市政府本來公財回饋金裡面的使用就有包括經濟弱勢就醫的時候的掛號費等等這些就可以給他補助\n所以我也想請部長針對目前我們這個公號費的這個上限就是你們沒有特意去就是說要有一個公號費的上限那你們是不是也要有一個一段時間去觀察到底這些診所、診所、醫院區域醫院、地區醫院或者是醫學中心這個調整之後會有什麼對民眾有什麼樣的影響我覺得你們應該也要有一個配套\n不過可能就是說我們會從那個公立醫院開始公立醫院大概不會去醫院馬上就做調整所以公立醫院應該是暫時不會長所以公立醫院目前這個掛號費應該不會有所調整對那其他的醫院或者診所如果有調整的話那如果有聯合行為那就是要交給公平會去長\n黃秀芳議員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.417 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