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\"委\", \"start\": 697.886, \"end\": 697.926, \"score\": 0.13}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"子\", \"start\": 697.926, \"end\": 697.946, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"江\", \"start\": 697.946, \"end\": 697.966, \"score\": 0.0}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:01,476 --> 00:00:03,918\n謝謝主席請院長好院長院長早安院長首先我先請教我在報道上有看到說我們故宮有規劃在五月的時候會在南院展出針合以邊中那針對這個部分呢我想請教一下這個邊中的展示展出他是屬於文物嗎\n\n2\n00:00:32,841 --> 00:00:54,422\n他是一個複製的文物那以故宮你們專業的來看待這樣子的展出他是一個他是複製的文物那他會進展廳來做展覽嗎他在不進展廳他在那個公共的服務區在售票區的前面的一個端角\n\n3\n00:00:56,445 --> 00:00:57,086\n我聽說這個編宗是可以實際的來演奏的嗎?\n\n4\n00:01:07,148 --> 00:01:07,168\n﹚廣告\n\n5\n00:01:29,936 --> 00:01:53,877\n委員長請教我們這個這個紡織的這個這個邊中他在展出這個期間有有沒有規劃會演出有他固定的話他會有兩場就是說每年會有兩場演出那期間的話他還要不定期的來做檢視所謂不定期來做檢視的話跟\n\n6\n00:01:59,021 --> 00:02:12,710\n院長我這邊再請教您關於這一組編宗我再一次請教您它跟你們故宮自己所保管的所展展覽的文物差別在哪裡\n\n7\n00:02:14,332 --> 00:02:15,072\n議員長,我直接的...\n\n8\n00:02:39,142 --> 00:02:58,055\n院長我在這邊我的問題我再重複我想了解說對於這一組你們會不是你們的但是來你們這邊展出的邊中跟你們自己本身故宮你們的會展覽的文物它的差別\n\n9\n00:02:59,076 --> 00:03:21,585\n他不是文物他是仿製的文物那而且他是可以用來實際演奏的那他放在他不是進展廳他是放在你們二樓的大廳的一個通道那我是不是可以解讀為他是一個非文物的一個展示但是可以算是一個實際上可以演奏的一個裝飾甚至是一個藝術品呢\n\n10\n00:03:23,706 --> 00:03:50,981\n因為當初跟那個傳譯中心在談的他就是一個教育展示的推廣活動教育展示的推廣根據傳譯中心的話他們其實要推廣的是音樂所以這一套基本上來講的話是作為樂器好了院長那我懂得您的意思就是說他並不是你們故宮本身自己的文物的展覽他是一個在傳譯中心他們所要推的一個\n\n11\n00:03:56,206 --> 00:04:16,383\n因爲傳統藝術中心會探討到不同國家、族群﹑甚至說中國大陸﹑所以這一次的展出並不是你們故宮本身去展覽一個房品它是跟傳藝中心一個合作合作的是一個展示一個可以實際演出的一個\n\n12\n00:04:18,911 --> 00:04:33,457\n對,因為傳譯中心的話這一套片之中從1997年買來之後的話他們就希望說有效應用不要放在庫房裡面好,謝謝院長那我這樣理解了就是這並不是故宮本身展示的展覽的一個紡織的文物好\n\n13\n00:04:35,118 --> 00:04:37,620\n來再來院長這邊我要請教您過去在香港故宮成立的時候香港故宮這邊有曾經放話說要跟我國的故宮來合作展出但當時本席也詢問當時時任院長的吳院長當時故宮的意思是說完全沒有接受接受到這樣子的訊息\n\n14\n00:04:55,091 --> 00:05:14,722\n但是中國對於我國故宮的想法跟打算其實好像都從來沒有停歇目前中國好像兩會召開在兩會召開前有中國政協提出說要加強中國故宮與我國故宮的合作以促使加深交流等等那我這邊想請教院長\n\n15\n00:05:17,103 --> 00:05:31,475\n這位中國的政協還強調說兩岸的故宮博物院原來是一家那一院兩地是因為歷史的緣故那院長這樣子的講法您身為我國故宮的院長您有什麼看法跟態度\n\n16\n00:05:33,056 --> 00:05:44,273\n我想歷史它的脈絡基本上來講的話我這邊就不再去談論但是要跟那個兩岸故宮合作的話基本上來講的話我們會審慎來考量\n\n17\n00:05:49,078 --> 00:06:03,224\n因為牽涉到的問題非常多因為故宮基本上來講的話作為一個國家的博物館那我們還是要依照政府的兩岸關係條例相關的內涵來進行一個交流合作\n\n18\n00:06:03,704 --> 00:06:21,340\n委員長本席在這邊要強調其實近年來中國對我國的文化的統戰一直都沒有停歇那即便中國利用各種的不同的管道或程序要來跟我國的故宮來接洽本席希望說故宮必須要堅守你們該有的態度跟底線這個必須要堅守您同意嗎\n\n19\n00:06:24,463 --> 00:06:31,050\n為什麼我會先強調中國的態度因為本席接下來要請教三個會期教育委員會這邊有質詢故宮關於中國盜用故宮土黨的問題那當時故宮也表示說會提出訴訟不會姑息那這個部分請問進展如何\n\n20\n00:06:40,829 --> 00:06:52,486\n基本上今年2月我們已經委託律師然後透過一個資料的彙整然後把資料送到大陸地區的地方法院由他們來處理\n\n21\n00:06:53,823 --> 00:06:58,864\n所以這個訴訟是進行中喔訴訟進行中對其實對於我們故宮不停下這個開放圖黨的腳步這個部分本席是很肯定的但是要怎麼杜絕惡意的道用故宮也應該要多思考那故宮去年11月的時候有辦了一個博物館開放授權與AI應用的國際論壇那其中有學者是建議說未必要親自的自行進入中國大陸市場來進行授權可以參考國際博物館界\n\n22\n00:07:23,291 --> 00:07:40,338\n委託當地主要且信譽卓著的授權機構作為授權代表便利當地的利用人快速的取得授權這種做法也避免有心偉貌的人利用資訊壁壘來從事不公平的競爭行為欺騙中國地區的民眾我想請教院長這樣的建議會不會採納會不會是我們故宮未來的選項之一\n\n23\n00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:51,268\n院長您這邊的疑慮同時也是我們這邊所擔憂的\n\n24\n00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:42,381\n提醒啦,針對中國他蓄意的惡意的這個做我們沒有辦法阻止但是如果有考量說要委託其他機構的話也必須要考量說中國的部分他們比較特殊的這個政治跟法律的因素必須要考慮評估未來如果有這樣子比較無法沒有合理申訴的狀態的時候我們該如何去因應所以這個部分希望你們可以更謹慎的來思考來評估\n\n25\n00:08:44,383 --> 00:08:45,183\n請問蕭院長我們現在針對這個國際間共同策展的這個狀況接洽的國家我們有怎樣的規劃\n\n26\n00:09:04,854 --> 00:09:32,436\n我想司法委員扣押的話是一個行政院的政策就是我們還依照這個政策來進行就對於雙方的文化交流的話我們要確保故宮的文物出國緩緩無遺的狀況之下我們才會進行所以現在捷克的司法委員扣押基本上來講的話他們眾議院已經通過現在送到參議院我們會希望說等待他的一個順利通過然後讓\n\n27\n00:09:33,597 --> 00:09:33,657\n委員長蕭茜\n\n28\n00:09:48,644 --> 00:09:58,535\n故宮的這些收藏品在國際間是享譽盛名所以未來如果有更多的機會可以有跟其他國家合作也希望我們故宮可以更積極的規劃最後在這邊本席要請教在故宮的報告裡面有提到說你會持續辦理改箱違規的這個業務\n\n29\n00:10:05,783 --> 00:10:26,721\n根據故宮過去自己的聲明在113年開始會自行製作文物包裝盒來改善包裝接下來也會逐步的進展成以貴的方式來藏品再導入智慧管理模式這個耗時是比較冗長但是本席相信這樣可以更妥善的來收藏這些文物不要再讓憾事來發生那這邊本席請教說你們自行製作的文物包裝盒的進度目前\n\n30\n00:10:32,046 --> 00:10:34,890\n因為你們這個文物管理系統是從南院開始,你們是說112年的12月就完成卵液體的建制,那你們現在開始測試嗎?開始上線了嗎?\n\n31\n00:10:42,608 --> 00:11:11,770\nRFID的部分就是有關文物典藏管理的一個數位掃碼的這個南院的話完成建置和完成測試那北院的話是以那個七七庫房來先進行那至於改箱違規的話113年就是我們今年開始要進行製作文物包裝那我們也迎聘了專業的人員從英國回來他現在在做規劃之中我們希望說114年起是真的可以進行這樣的一個工作\n\n32\n00:11:12,150 --> 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跟法律的因素必須要考慮評估未來如果有這樣子比較無法沒有合理申訴的狀態的時候我們該如何去因應所以這個部分希望你們可以更謹慎的來思考來評估\n請問蕭院長我們現在針對這個國際間共同策展的這個狀況接洽的國家我們有怎樣的規劃\n我想司法委員扣押的話是一個行政院的政策就是我們還依照這個政策來進行就對於雙方的文化交流的話我們要確保故宮的文物出國緩緩無遺的狀況之下我們才會進行所以現在捷克的司法委員扣押基本上來講的話他們眾議院已經通過現在送到參議院我們會希望說等待他的一個順利通過然後讓\n委員長蕭茜\n故宮的這些收藏品在國際間是享譽盛名所以未來如果有更多的機會可以有跟其他國家合作也希望我們故宮可以更積極的規劃最後在這邊本席要請教在故宮的報告裡面有提到說你會持續辦理改箱違規的這個業務\n根據故宮過去自己的聲明在113年開始會自行製作文物包裝盒來改善包裝接下來也會逐步的進展成以貴的方式來藏品再導入智慧管理模式這個耗時是比較冗長但是本席相信這樣可以更妥善的來收藏這些文物不要再讓憾事來發生那這邊本席請教說你們自行製作的文物包裝盒的進度目前\n因為你們這個文物管理系統是從南院開始,你們是說112年的12月就完成卵液體的建制,那你們現在開始測試嗎?開始上線了嗎?\nRFID的部分就是有關文物典藏管理的一個數位掃碼的這個南院的話完成建置和完成測試那北院的話是以那個七七庫房來先進行那至於改箱違規的話113年就是我們今年開始要進行製作文物包裝那我們也迎聘了專業的人員從英國回來他現在在做規劃之中我們希望說114年起是真的可以進行這樣的一個工作\n好那本期也希望說我們接下來也會有進行修復計畫的說明會那針對故宮這邊有心將我們產品的收藏環境參訪環境來進行改善呢本期非常的支持但是希望故宮針對相關人員的待遇是不是也應該拒盡那也希望我們故宮是持續的以國際級的博物館一直這樣的姿態一直走在前端希望我們故宮可以繼續努力謝謝好謝謝委員謝謝委員子江\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.476 --> 00:03.918\n謝謝主席請院長好院長院長早安院長首先我先請教我在報道上有看到說我們故宮有規劃在五月的時候會在南院展出針合以邊中那針對這個部分呢我想請教一下這個邊中的展示展出他是屬於文物嗎\n\n00:32.841 --> 00:54.422\n他是一個複製的文物那以故宮你們專業的來看待這樣子的展出他是一個他是複製的文物那他會進展廳來做展覽嗎他在不進展廳他在那個公共的服務區在售票區的前面的一個端角\n\n00:56.445 --> 00:57.086\n我聽說這個編宗是可以實際的來演奏的嗎?\n\n01:07.148 --> 01:07.168\n﹚廣告\n\n01:29.936 --> 01:53.877\n委員長請教我們這個這個紡織的這個這個邊中他在展出這個期間有有沒有規劃會演出有他固定的話他會有兩場就是說每年會有兩場演出那期間的話他還要不定期的來做檢視所謂不定期來做檢視的話跟\n\n01:59.021 --> 02:12.710\n院長我這邊再請教您關於這一組編宗我再一次請教您它跟你們故宮自己所保管的所展展覽的文物差別在哪裡\n\n02:14.332 --> 02:15.072\n議員長,我直接的...\n\n02:39.142 --> 02:58.055\n院長我在這邊我的問題我再重複我想了解說對於這一組你們會不是你們的但是來你們這邊展出的邊中跟你們自己本身故宮你們的會展覽的文物它的差別\n\n02:59.076 --> 03:21.585\n他不是文物他是仿製的文物那而且他是可以用來實際演奏的那他放在他不是進展廳他是放在你們二樓的大廳的一個通道那我是不是可以解讀為他是一個非文物的一個展示但是可以算是一個實際上可以演奏的一個裝飾甚至是一個藝術品呢\n\n03:23.706 --> 03:50.981\n因為當初跟那個傳譯中心在談的他就是一個教育展示的推廣活動教育展示的推廣根據傳譯中心的話他們其實要推廣的是音樂所以這一套基本上來講的話是作為樂器好了院長那我懂得您的意思就是說他並不是你們故宮本身自己的文物的展覽他是一個在傳譯中心他們所要推的一個\n\n03:56.206 --> 04:16.383\n因爲傳統藝術中心會探討到不同國家、族群﹑甚至說中國大陸﹑所以這一次的展出並不是你們故宮本身去展覽一個房品它是跟傳藝中心一個合作合作的是一個展示一個可以實際演出的一個\n\n04:18.911 --> 04:33.457\n對,因為傳譯中心的話這一套片之中從1997年買來之後的話他們就希望說有效應用不要放在庫房裡面好,謝謝院長那我這樣理解了就是這並不是故宮本身展示的展覽的一個紡織的文物好\n\n04:35.118 --> 04:37.620\n來再來院長這邊我要請教您過去在香港故宮成立的時候香港故宮這邊有曾經放話說要跟我國的故宮來合作展出但當時本席也詢問當時時任院長的吳院長當時故宮的意思是說完全沒有接受接受到這樣子的訊息\n\n04:55.091 --> 05:14.722\n但是中國對於我國故宮的想法跟打算其實好像都從來沒有停歇目前中國好像兩會召開在兩會召開前有中國政協提出說要加強中國故宮與我國故宮的合作以促使加深交流等等那我這邊想請教院長\n\n05:17.103 --> 05:31.475\n這位中國的政協還強調說兩岸的故宮博物院原來是一家那一院兩地是因為歷史的緣故那院長這樣子的講法您身為我國故宮的院長您有什麼看法跟態度\n\n05:33.056 --> 05:44.273\n我想歷史它的脈絡基本上來講的話我這邊就不再去談論但是要跟那個兩岸故宮合作的話基本上來講的話我們會審慎來考量\n\n05:49.078 --> 06:03.224\n因為牽涉到的問題非常多因為故宮基本上來講的話作為一個國家的博物館那我們還是要依照政府的兩岸關係條例相關的內涵來進行一個交流合作\n\n06:03.704 --> 06:21.340\n委員長本席在這邊要強調其實近年來中國對我國的文化的統戰一直都沒有停歇那即便中國利用各種的不同的管道或程序要來跟我國的故宮來接洽本席希望說故宮必須要堅守你們該有的態度跟底線這個必須要堅守您同意嗎\n\n06:24.463 --> 06:31.050\n為什麼我會先強調中國的態度因為本席接下來要請教三個會期教育委員會這邊有質詢故宮關於中國盜用故宮土黨的問題那當時故宮也表示說會提出訴訟不會姑息那這個部分請問進展如何\n\n06:40.829 --> 06:52.486\n基本上今年2月我們已經委託律師然後透過一個資料的彙整然後把資料送到大陸地區的地方法院由他們來處理\n\n06:53.823 --> 06:58.864\n所以這個訴訟是進行中喔訴訟進行中對其實對於我們故宮不停下這個開放圖黨的腳步這個部分本席是很肯定的但是要怎麼杜絕惡意的道用故宮也應該要多思考那故宮去年11月的時候有辦了一個博物館開放授權與AI應用的國際論壇那其中有學者是建議說未必要親自的自行進入中國大陸市場來進行授權可以參考國際博物館界\n\n07:23.291 --> 07:40.338\n委託當地主要且信譽卓著的授權機構作為授權代表便利當地的利用人快速的取得授權這種做法也避免有心偉貌的人利用資訊壁壘來從事不公平的競爭行為欺騙中國地區的民眾我想請教院長這樣的建議會不會採納會不會是我們故宮未來的選項之一\n\n07:50.387 --> 07:51.268\n院長您這邊的疑慮同時也是我們這邊所擔憂的\n\n08:18.240 --> 08:42.381\n提醒啦,針對中國他蓄意的惡意的這個做我們沒有辦法阻止但是如果有考量說要委託其他機構的話也必須要考量說中國的部分他們比較特殊的這個政治跟法律的因素必須要考慮評估未來如果有這樣子比較無法沒有合理申訴的狀態的時候我們該如何去因應所以這個部分希望你們可以更謹慎的來思考來評估\n\n08:44.383 --> 08:45.183\n請問蕭院長我們現在針對這個國際間共同策展的這個狀況接洽的國家我們有怎樣的規劃\n\n09:04.854 --> 09:32.436\n我想司法委員扣押的話是一個行政院的政策就是我們還依照這個政策來進行就對於雙方的文化交流的話我們要確保故宮的文物出國緩緩無遺的狀況之下我們才會進行所以現在捷克的司法委員扣押基本上來講的話他們眾議院已經通過現在送到參議院我們會希望說等待他的一個順利通過然後讓\n\n09:33.597 --> 09:33.657\n委員長蕭茜\n\n09:48.644 --> 09:58.535\n故宮的這些收藏品在國際間是享譽盛名所以未來如果有更多的機會可以有跟其他國家合作也希望我們故宮可以更積極的規劃最後在這邊本席要請教在故宮的報告裡面有提到說你會持續辦理改箱違規的這個業務\n\n10:05.783 --> 10:26.721\n根據故宮過去自己的聲明在113年開始會自行製作文物包裝盒來改善包裝接下來也會逐步的進展成以貴的方式來藏品再導入智慧管理模式這個耗時是比較冗長但是本席相信這樣可以更妥善的來收藏這些文物不要再讓憾事來發生那這邊本席請教說你們自行製作的文物包裝盒的進度目前\n\n10:32.046 --> 10:34.890\n因為你們這個文物管理系統是從南院開始,你們是說112年的12月就完成卵液體的建制,那你們現在開始測試嗎?開始上線了嗎?\n\n10:42.608 --> 11:11.770\nRFID的部分就是有關文物典藏管理的一個數位掃碼的這個南院的話完成建置和完成測試那北院的話是以那個七七庫房來先進行那至於改箱違規的話113年就是我們今年開始要進行製作文物包裝那我們也迎聘了專業的人員從英國回來他現在在做規劃之中我們希望說114年起是真的可以進行這樣的一個工作\n\n11:12.150 --> 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