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00:01:06,898\n目前來講的話還是有入客雖然沒有開放兩岸的觀光但是還是有的入客我們自由行還是有的\n\n5\n00:01:27,124 --> 00:01:49,292\n剛剛還有一個資訊是由委員來提問說我們的語音的系統也就是我們的導覽機的標案以我們語音導覽的系統的標案來詢問你我們導覽人力的配置而事實上我們故宮的導覽人力有沒有委外由廠商來進行\n\n6\n00:01:51,231 --> 00:02:05,649\n基本上導覽的話是由故宮的導覽志工來進行沒有嘛我們的導覽人力是以導覽志工那另外我們配有導覽機所以這個表演事實上是導覽機的表演不是導覽人力的表演是嗎\n\n7\n00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:15,875\n導覽機跟系統的建置包括文案的翻譯所以院長我要跟您提醒一點就是我認為我們故宮需要來加強跟委員的溝通因為像我剛剛上述我只是列舉兩個其實是客觀數字客觀資訊\n\n8\n00:02:30,936 --> 00:02:31,056\n接下來呢﹖\n\n9\n00:02:45,996 --> 00:02:46,016\n﹚吳沛憶\n\n10\n00:03:07,862 --> 00:03:12,804\n新故宮計畫裡面除了軟體的行銷之外它一開始其實也是硬體的擴建整建的計畫同樣我想要在這裡請問院長因為我們故宮要來做擴建跟整建當然我們是政府機關文資法的符合這是基本要件我們都是公務員但是我們之所以要做整擴建主要的目的是什麼\n\n11\n00:03:33,390 --> 00:03:57,448\n一開始為什麼我們要做這個整合建的計畫是我們目前故宮的建築體有什麼樣的需求來需要改善跟委員報告就是那個故宮北院的部分因為它經過五次的整建就是說它從那個正方形然後變成長方形變成摸字形總共經歷五次所以它的整個空間的\n\n12\n00:04:00,010 --> 00:04:02,092\n露水嚴重管線老舊這會造成我們博物館有什麼樣的問題\n\n13\n00:04:20,907 --> 00:04:47,104\n每次到了颱風大雨的時候基本上同仁都都緊緊約約都不敢回家然後兩個鐘頭就要洗一次甚至甚至都要去緊急上屋頂去處理那個那個排水的狀況所以這個部分的話已經到了一個要整體去處理的因為呢在我進來立法院之前我就看到我們立法院其實非常的關心我們故宮文物保存\n\n14\n00:04:48,208 --> 00:05:07,443\n因為我們發生過幾次文物碎裂的事件所以大家都非常關心所以我認為這個擴展建的工程是必要的而且是急迫的因為依照我們的博物館法我們的收藏保存維護博物館的基本功能是博物館法對我們的要求\n\n15\n00:05:08,784 --> 00:05:14,487\n這一點我也希望我們故宮在對外的說明上面還有社會的溝通上面要說清楚告訴我們的社會大眾為什麼今天我們納稅人必須要來支持故宮的整擴建計畫因為目前我們的建築體的條件對我們的文物保存事實上它在功能性上面是已經不符合需求了\n\n16\n00:05:31,917 --> 00:05:34,660\n這一點是迫切的因為我們希望我們故宮這麼珍貴世界級的文物在我們故宮裡面可以被妥善的保存這個漏水等等的問題必須要盡速的解決這一點我希望我們故宮能夠來加強溝通說明可不可以來改善\n\n17\n00:05:50,612 --> 00:06:10,813\n對這個部分我們剛剛辦了兩場的說明會我們會跟那個社會各界來管換來說明好院長一樣是我們委員會也剛剛有很多人在關心我們的觀光尤其我們的人次院長我請教你我們故宮作為博物館這個觀光是我們博物館必要要達成的目標嗎\n\n18\n00:06:13,595 --> 00:06:23,744\n這是新故宮計畫我們兩項三項子計畫中的最後一項計畫就希望透過一個文化觀光然後吸引更多的國際人士來臺我們要達成觀我們要促進觀光我們最重要的目標是什麼在我看來我們新故宮計畫叫做公共化因為公共性也是博物館法給予我們的要求\n\n19\n00:06:37,495 --> 00:07:04,440\n所以我們覺得的確我們故宮負有促進觀光的責任但我們不是在要求你們單純為了提升產值那是因為故宮以台北來說過去我在台北市議會我們常常也希望我們的市政府可以多來跟故宮合作為什麼呢因為故宮是國際旅客來到台北必造訪的前五大景點之一我們都一直希望故宮能夠作為一個觀光的引擎\n\n20\n00:07:05,140 --> 00:07:05,320\n國際的旅客﹚\n\n21\n00:07:36,101 --> 00:07:54,091\n跟地方政府合作的計畫當然一個就是跟不同的風景區或是機構他們去做聯名譬如說像101、順義原住民博物館這些都有一個聯名的機制然後跟台北市政府的官傳局我們也有合作\n\n22\n00:07:55,171 --> 00:08:15,960\n另外一個的話就是說我們當然很期待所有的觀眾趕快回到故宮可是觀眾沒有辦法一時回到故宮的時候我們現在做的階段性就是把故宮的展覽往外送就是現在目前來講的話有台南美術館然後有那個客家文化六堆文化中心然後接下來的話會這個禮拜的話會到那個宜蘭\n\n23\n00:08:19,701 --> 00:08:20,381\n在我看到你們的公共化計畫裡面\n\n24\n00:08:36,247 --> 00:08:39,748\n有部分的計畫內容你們是希望能夠跟地方政府來合作的那我從議會過來所以呢以我經驗來說其實我認為我們故宮能夠跟地方政府合作的項目還包含了很多例如說我們明年度我們是不是有一個希望可以來來跟日本來合作這個修學的這些學生能夠來到故宮是不是有一個這樣的計畫\n\n25\n00:08:59,916 --> 00:09:17,078\n去年我們跟那個觀光使合作就是遊輪的一個只要遊輪到我們就開館的一個計畫那基本上來講的話就是雙方認為成效都不錯那今年我們想跟他們合作的話就是有關日本的休學旅行休學旅行就是畢業旅行\n\n26\n00:09:19,739 --> 00:09:35,406\n對,像這個來吸引外國的學校的休學旅行來到台灣其實也是各個地方政府每年教育局都在推廣的計畫除了日韓以外,包含東南亞的國家我們也都是每年都有洽談合作的所以呢,我認為我們的主業是博物館但是我們富有要帶動\n\n27\n00:09:40,788 --> 00:09:40,808\n﹚廣告\n\n28\n00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,280\n﹚吳沛憶委員\n\n29\n00:10:22,697 --> 00:10:27,199\n我認為在台北市我們能夠加強的合作那如果有需要洽談的部分我也很樂意來進行這個幫忙所以我希望說我們故宮是不是能夠在兩個月就台北市我們來加強跟地方政府合作就我們原先希望來以故宮的量能帶動觀光的這個目標來進行合作能不能可以兩個月之內給我一個初步的評估\n\n30\n00:10:49,671 --> 00:11:08,606\n好,我們跟那個臺北市觀傳集的話其實我們已經開啟合作了去年的那個故宮博物館之夜海灣故宮其實就是跟觀傳集合作的這非常的好那我也希望說未來有更多的合作讓我們故宮尤其北院區在臺北市能夠帶動更多的觀光發展好不好好,謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7731\t7751\t蕭院長\n14418\t29542\t委員長在我開始質詢今天題目之前想要先跟您釐清因為我剛聽前面的委員在質詢當中有幾個事實上面似乎看起來是有落差第一個是說有委員提到過去幾年我們故宮來自港澳中國的旅客有近五成那您說這數字是錯誤的所以實際上數字以去年近幾年來說是多少大約幾成\n44522\t61905\t基本上來講的話因為我手上沒有精切的數字我不便這樣直接的回應可是五分之一基本上來講的話兩成的話是一定有但是五成的話基本上來講的話是因為它\n63177\t66898\t目前來講的話還是有入客雖然沒有開放兩岸的觀光但是還是有的入客我們自由行還是有的\n87124\t109292\t剛剛還有一個資訊是由委員來提問說我們的語音的系統也就是我們的導覽機的標案以我們語音導覽的系統的標案來詢問你我們導覽人力的配置而事實上我們故宮的導覽人力有沒有委外由廠商來進行\n111231\t125649\t基本上導覽的話是由故宮的導覽志工來進行沒有嘛我們的導覽人力是以導覽志工那另外我們配有導覽機所以這個表演事實上是導覽機的表演不是導覽人力的表演是嗎\n127990\t135875\t導覽機跟系統的建置包括文案的翻譯所以院長我要跟您提醒一點就是我認為我們故宮需要來加強跟委員的溝通因為像我剛剛上述我只是列舉兩個其實是客觀數字客觀資訊\n150936\t151056\t接下來呢﹖\n165996\t166016\t﹚吳沛憶\n187862\t192804\t新故宮計畫裡面除了軟體的行銷之外它一開始其實也是硬體的擴建整建的計畫同樣我想要在這裡請問院長因為我們故宮要來做擴建跟整建當然我們是政府機關文資法的符合這是基本要件我們都是公務員但是我們之所以要做整擴建主要的目的是什麼\n213390\t237448\t一開始為什麼我們要做這個整合建的計畫是我們目前故宮的建築體有什麼樣的需求來需要改善跟委員報告就是那個故宮北院的部分因為它經過五次的整建就是說它從那個正方形然後變成長方形變成摸字形總共經歷五次所以它的整個空間的\n240010\t242092\t露水嚴重管線老舊這會造成我們博物館有什麼樣的問題\n260907\t287104\t每次到了颱風大雨的時候基本上同仁都都緊緊約約都不敢回家然後兩個鐘頭就要洗一次甚至甚至都要去緊急上屋頂去處理那個那個排水的狀況所以這個部分的話已經到了一個要整體去處理的因為呢在我進來立法院之前我就看到我們立法院其實非常的關心我們故宮文物保存\n288208\t307443\t因為我們發生過幾次文物碎裂的事件所以大家都非常關心所以我認為這個擴展建的工程是必要的而且是急迫的因為依照我們的博物館法我們的收藏保存維護博物館的基本功能是博物館法對我們的要求\n308784\t314487\t這一點我也希望我們故宮在對外的說明上面還有社會的溝通上面要說清楚告訴我們的社會大眾為什麼今天我們納稅人必須要來支持故宮的整擴建計畫因為目前我們的建築體的條件對我們的文物保存事實上它在功能性上面是已經不符合需求了\n331917\t334660\t這一點是迫切的因為我們希望我們故宮這麼珍貴世界級的文物在我們故宮裡面可以被妥善的保存這個漏水等等的問題必須要盡速的解決這一點我希望我們故宮能夠來加強溝通說明可不可以來改善\n350612\t370813\t對 這個部分我們剛剛辦了兩場的說明會我們會跟那個社會各界來管換來說明好 院長一樣是我們委員會也剛剛有很多人在關心我們的觀光尤其我們的人次院長我請教你我們故宮作為博物館這個觀光是我們博物館必要要達成的目標嗎\n373595\t383744\t這是新故宮計畫我們兩項三項子計畫中的最後一項計畫就希望透過一個文化觀光然後吸引更多的國際人士來臺我們要達成觀我們要促進觀光我們最重要的目標是什麼在我看來我們新故宮計畫叫做公共化因為公共性也是博物館法給予我們的要求\n397495\t424440\t所以我們覺得的確我們故宮負有促進觀光的責任但我們不是在要求你們單純為了提升產值那是因為故宮以台北來說過去我在台北市議會我們常常也希望我們的市政府可以多來跟故宮合作為什麼呢因為故宮是國際旅客來到台北必造訪的前五大景點之一我們都一直希望故宮能夠作為一個觀光的引擎\n425140\t425320\t國際的旅客﹚\n456101\t474091\t跟地方政府合作的計畫當然一個就是跟不同的風景區或是機構他們去做聯名譬如說像101、順義原住民博物館這些都有一個聯名的機制然後跟台北市政府的官傳局我們也有合作\n475171\t495960\t另外一個的話就是說我們當然很期待所有的觀眾趕快回到故宮可是觀眾沒有辦法一時回到故宮的時候我們現在做的階段性就是把故宮的展覽往外送就是現在目前來講的話有台南美術館然後有那個客家文化六堆文化中心然後接下來的話會這個禮拜的話會到那個宜蘭\n499701\t500381\t在我看到你們的公共化計畫裡面\n516247\t519748\t有部分的計畫內容你們是希望能夠跟地方政府來合作的那我從議會過來所以呢以我經驗來說其實我認為我們故宮能夠跟地方政府合作的項目還包含了很多例如說我們明年度我們是不是有一個希望可以來來跟日本來合作這個修學的這些學生能夠來到故宮是不是有一個這樣的計畫\n539916\t557078\t去年我們跟那個觀光使合作就是遊輪的一個只要遊輪到我們就開館的一個計畫那基本上來講的話就是雙方認為成效都不錯那今年我們想跟他們合作的話就是有關日本的休學旅行休學旅行就是畢業旅行\n559739\t575406\t對,像這個來吸引外國的學校的休學旅行來到台灣其實也是各個地方政府每年教育局都在推廣的計畫除了日韓以外,包含東南亞的國家我們也都是每年都有洽談合作的所以呢,我認為我們的主業是博物館但是我們富有要帶動\n580788\t580808\t﹚廣告\n603160\t603280\t﹚吳沛憶委員\n622697\t627199\t我認為在台北市我們能夠加強的合作那如果有需要洽談的部分我也很樂意來進行這個幫忙所以我希望說我們故宮是不是能夠在兩個月就台北市我們來加強跟地方政府合作就我們原先希望來以故宮的量能帶動觀光的這個目標來進行合作能不能可以兩個月之內給我一個初步的評估\n649671\t668606\t好,我們跟那個臺北市觀傳集的話其實我們已經開啟合作了去年的那個故宮博物館之夜海灣故宮其實就是跟觀傳集合作的這非常的好那我也希望說未來有更多的合作讓我們故宮尤其北院區在臺北市能夠帶動更多的觀光發展好不好好,謝謝\n","txt":"蕭院長\n委員長在我開始質詢今天題目之前想要先跟您釐清因為我剛聽前面的委員在質詢當中有幾個事實上面似乎看起來是有落差第一個是說有委員提到過去幾年我們故宮來自港澳中國的旅客有近五成那您說這數字是錯誤的所以實際上數字以去年近幾年來說是多少大約幾成\n基本上來講的話因為我手上沒有精切的數字我不便這樣直接的回應可是五分之一基本上來講的話兩成的話是一定有但是五成的話基本上來講的話是因為它\n目前來講的話還是有入客雖然沒有開放兩岸的觀光但是還是有的入客我們自由行還是有的\n剛剛還有一個資訊是由委員來提問說我們的語音的系統也就是我們的導覽機的標案以我們語音導覽的系統的標案來詢問你我們導覽人力的配置而事實上我們故宮的導覽人力有沒有委外由廠商來進行\n基本上導覽的話是由故宮的導覽志工來進行沒有嘛我們的導覽人力是以導覽志工那另外我們配有導覽機所以這個表演事實上是導覽機的表演不是導覽人力的表演是嗎\n導覽機跟系統的建置包括文案的翻譯所以院長我要跟您提醒一點就是我認為我們故宮需要來加強跟委員的溝通因為像我剛剛上述我只是列舉兩個其實是客觀數字客觀資訊\n接下來呢﹖\n﹚吳沛憶\n新故宮計畫裡面除了軟體的行銷之外它一開始其實也是硬體的擴建整建的計畫同樣我想要在這裡請問院長因為我們故宮要來做擴建跟整建當然我們是政府機關文資法的符合這是基本要件我們都是公務員但是我們之所以要做整擴建主要的目的是什麼\n一開始為什麼我們要做這個整合建的計畫是我們目前故宮的建築體有什麼樣的需求來需要改善跟委員報告就是那個故宮北院的部分因為它經過五次的整建就是說它從那個正方形然後變成長方形變成摸字形總共經歷五次所以它的整個空間的\n露水嚴重管線老舊這會造成我們博物館有什麼樣的問題\n每次到了颱風大雨的時候基本上同仁都都緊緊約約都不敢回家然後兩個鐘頭就要洗一次甚至甚至都要去緊急上屋頂去處理那個那個排水的狀況所以這個部分的話已經到了一個要整體去處理的因為呢在我進來立法院之前我就看到我們立法院其實非常的關心我們故宮文物保存\n因為我們發生過幾次文物碎裂的事件所以大家都非常關心所以我認為這個擴展建的工程是必要的而且是急迫的因為依照我們的博物館法我們的收藏保存維護博物館的基本功能是博物館法對我們的要求\n這一點我也希望我們故宮在對外的說明上面還有社會的溝通上面要說清楚告訴我們的社會大眾為什麼今天我們納稅人必須要來支持故宮的整擴建計畫因為目前我們的建築體的條件對我們的文物保存事實上它在功能性上面是已經不符合需求了\n這一點是迫切的因為我們希望我們故宮這麼珍貴世界級的文物在我們故宮裡面可以被妥善的保存這個漏水等等的問題必須要盡速的解決這一點我希望我們故宮能夠來加強溝通說明可不可以來改善\n對 這個部分我們剛剛辦了兩場的說明會我們會跟那個社會各界來管換來說明好 院長一樣是我們委員會也剛剛有很多人在關心我們的觀光尤其我們的人次院長我請教你我們故宮作為博物館這個觀光是我們博物館必要要達成的目標嗎\n這是新故宮計畫我們兩項三項子計畫中的最後一項計畫就希望透過一個文化觀光然後吸引更多的國際人士來臺我們要達成觀我們要促進觀光我們最重要的目標是什麼在我看來我們新故宮計畫叫做公共化因為公共性也是博物館法給予我們的要求\n所以我們覺得的確我們故宮負有促進觀光的責任但我們不是在要求你們單純為了提升產值那是因為故宮以台北來說過去我在台北市議會我們常常也希望我們的市政府可以多來跟故宮合作為什麼呢因為故宮是國際旅客來到台北必造訪的前五大景點之一我們都一直希望故宮能夠作為一個觀光的引擎\n國際的旅客﹚\n跟地方政府合作的計畫當然一個就是跟不同的風景區或是機構他們去做聯名譬如說像101、順義原住民博物館這些都有一個聯名的機制然後跟台北市政府的官傳局我們也有合作\n另外一個的話就是說我們當然很期待所有的觀眾趕快回到故宮可是觀眾沒有辦法一時回到故宮的時候我們現在做的階段性就是把故宮的展覽往外送就是現在目前來講的話有台南美術館然後有那個客家文化六堆文化中心然後接下來的話會這個禮拜的話會到那個宜蘭\n在我看到你們的公共化計畫裡面\n有部分的計畫內容你們是希望能夠跟地方政府來合作的那我從議會過來所以呢以我經驗來說其實我認為我們故宮能夠跟地方政府合作的項目還包含了很多例如說我們明年度我們是不是有一個希望可以來來跟日本來合作這個修學的這些學生能夠來到故宮是不是有一個這樣的計畫\n去年我們跟那個觀光使合作就是遊輪的一個只要遊輪到我們就開館的一個計畫那基本上來講的話就是雙方認為成效都不錯那今年我們想跟他們合作的話就是有關日本的休學旅行休學旅行就是畢業旅行\n對,像這個來吸引外國的學校的休學旅行來到台灣其實也是各個地方政府每年教育局都在推廣的計畫除了日韓以外,包含東南亞的國家我們也都是每年都有洽談合作的所以呢,我認為我們的主業是博物館但是我們富有要帶動\n﹚廣告\n﹚吳沛憶委員\n我認為在台北市我們能夠加強的合作那如果有需要洽談的部分我也很樂意來進行這個幫忙所以我希望說我們故宮是不是能夠在兩個月就台北市我們來加強跟地方政府合作就我們原先希望來以故宮的量能帶動觀光的這個目標來進行合作能不能可以兩個月之內給我一個初步的評估\n好,我們跟那個臺北市觀傳集的話其實我們已經開啟合作了去年的那個故宮博物館之夜海灣故宮其實就是跟觀傳集合作的這非常的好那我也希望說未來有更多的合作讓我們故宮尤其北院區在臺北市能夠帶動更多的觀光發展好不好好,謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.731 --> 00:07.751\n蕭院長\n\n00:14.418 --> 00:29.542\n委員長在我開始質詢今天題目之前想要先跟您釐清因為我剛聽前面的委員在質詢當中有幾個事實上面似乎看起來是有落差第一個是說有委員提到過去幾年我們故宮來自港澳中國的旅客有近五成那您說這數字是錯誤的所以實際上數字以去年近幾年來說是多少大約幾成\n\n00:44.522 --> 01:01.905\n基本上來講的話因為我手上沒有精切的數字我不便這樣直接的回應可是五分之一基本上來講的話兩成的話是一定有但是五成的話基本上來講的話是因為它\n\n01:03.177 --> 01:06.898\n目前來講的話還是有入客雖然沒有開放兩岸的觀光但是還是有的入客我們自由行還是有的\n\n01:27.124 --> 01:49.292\n剛剛還有一個資訊是由委員來提問說我們的語音的系統也就是我們的導覽機的標案以我們語音導覽的系統的標案來詢問你我們導覽人力的配置而事實上我們故宮的導覽人力有沒有委外由廠商來進行\n\n01:51.231 --> 02:05.649\n基本上導覽的話是由故宮的導覽志工來進行沒有嘛我們的導覽人力是以導覽志工那另外我們配有導覽機所以這個表演事實上是導覽機的表演不是導覽人力的表演是嗎\n\n02:07.990 --> 02:15.875\n導覽機跟系統的建置包括文案的翻譯所以院長我要跟您提醒一點就是我認為我們故宮需要來加強跟委員的溝通因為像我剛剛上述我只是列舉兩個其實是客觀數字客觀資訊\n\n02:30.936 --> 02:31.056\n接下來呢﹖\n\n02:45.996 --> 02:46.016\n﹚吳沛憶\n\n03:07.862 --> 03:12.804\n新故宮計畫裡面除了軟體的行銷之外它一開始其實也是硬體的擴建整建的計畫同樣我想要在這裡請問院長因為我們故宮要來做擴建跟整建當然我們是政府機關文資法的符合這是基本要件我們都是公務員但是我們之所以要做整擴建主要的目的是什麼\n\n03:33.390 --> 03:57.448\n一開始為什麼我們要做這個整合建的計畫是我們目前故宮的建築體有什麼樣的需求來需要改善跟委員報告就是那個故宮北院的部分因為它經過五次的整建就是說它從那個正方形然後變成長方形變成摸字形總共經歷五次所以它的整個空間的\n\n04:00.010 --> 04:02.092\n露水嚴重管線老舊這會造成我們博物館有什麼樣的問題\n\n04:20.907 --> 04:47.104\n每次到了颱風大雨的時候基本上同仁都都緊緊約約都不敢回家然後兩個鐘頭就要洗一次甚至甚至都要去緊急上屋頂去處理那個那個排水的狀況所以這個部分的話已經到了一個要整體去處理的因為呢在我進來立法院之前我就看到我們立法院其實非常的關心我們故宮文物保存\n\n04:48.208 --> 05:07.443\n因為我們發生過幾次文物碎裂的事件所以大家都非常關心所以我認為這個擴展建的工程是必要的而且是急迫的因為依照我們的博物館法我們的收藏保存維護博物館的基本功能是博物館法對我們的要求\n\n05:08.784 --> 05:14.487\n這一點我也希望我們故宮在對外的說明上面還有社會的溝通上面要說清楚告訴我們的社會大眾為什麼今天我們納稅人必須要來支持故宮的整擴建計畫因為目前我們的建築體的條件對我們的文物保存事實上它在功能性上面是已經不符合需求了\n\n05:31.917 --> 05:34.660\n這一點是迫切的因為我們希望我們故宮這麼珍貴世界級的文物在我們故宮裡面可以被妥善的保存這個漏水等等的問題必須要盡速的解決這一點我希望我們故宮能夠來加強溝通說明可不可以來改善\n\n05:50.612 --> 06:10.813\n對這個部分我們剛剛辦了兩場的說明會我們會跟那個社會各界來管換來說明好院長一樣是我們委員會也剛剛有很多人在關心我們的觀光尤其我們的人次院長我請教你我們故宮作為博物館這個觀光是我們博物館必要要達成的目標嗎\n\n06:13.595 --> 06:23.744\n這是新故宮計畫我們兩項三項子計畫中的最後一項計畫就希望透過一個文化觀光然後吸引更多的國際人士來臺我們要達成觀我們要促進觀光我們最重要的目標是什麼在我看來我們新故宮計畫叫做公共化因為公共性也是博物館法給予我們的要求\n\n06:37.495 --> 07:04.440\n所以我們覺得的確我們故宮負有促進觀光的責任但我們不是在要求你們單純為了提升產值那是因為故宮以台北來說過去我在台北市議會我們常常也希望我們的市政府可以多來跟故宮合作為什麼呢因為故宮是國際旅客來到台北必造訪的前五大景點之一我們都一直希望故宮能夠作為一個觀光的引擎\n\n07:05.140 --> 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