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00:02:05,077\n向人民說明警報的標準是什麼統一的應變程序是什麼讓民眾能夠更加清楚的知道相關的資訊接收到資訊之後相關的導引也非常重要他知道民眾下一步要做什麼這方面是不是可以請部長來簡單跟我們說明一下\n\n7\n00:02:06,698 --> 00:02:36,238\n我跟委員報告,雖然1月份發生這個事情造成很大的誤解,我們也依據實況來做一個檢討改進的,以後發布,我們現在有改變最具體的做法,只要美方它有聯邦太空單位,它一公布了,我們也接公告,但我們要不要發警報就看,因為它公告是一個經緯度,發射地點經過哪裡,它有經緯度,如果逾越這個範圍了,跟我們研判有偏差了,\n\n8\n00:02:36,978 --> 00:03:04,971\n我們就發警報,這個做法沒有變,內容我們也在強化,這是第一個。第二個,發了以後,至於這個一般的民眾要怎麼做,這個我想我們為了要成立這個全民防衛動員署的,這是一個災害防救一種作為,因為有災害來了,民眾要怎麼處理,所以這個警告就等於已經可以表達加劇化,請民眾進入什麼掩蔽物啊等等,這個我們可以加進去了,但是要考量到\n\n9\n00:03:07,182 --> 00:03:11,984\n謝謝部長我之所以問這個問題是因為國家警報的這個重要度還有它的這個平凡性可能會引起民眾的一些擔憂所以\n\n10\n00:03:24,409 --> 00:03:51,616\n我們必須要在真正在迫切需要立即做處置的時候才有相關的指引這樣民眾才不會過於擔心我想這方面不僅是國防部跟其他的部門跟防災相關的應變天災也都在裡面那我希望是能夠有更完整的跨部會的討論那未來在防災指引上面警報後續的指引我想這個也不是國防部一個部門就要處理的事情那是要跨部會的也希望未來\n\n11\n00:03:52,056 --> 00:03:52,256\n國防創新委員會主席\n\n12\n00:04:15,883 --> 00:04:35,670\n提供美國國防部長相關的建議的一個委員會那他的組成包含商業啊研究機構啊學界一些重要的像Google的前執行長那個艾力克史密特也是其中的一員那這些重要的商業科技巨頭我認為是可以提供國防部非常及時的質詢\n\n13\n00:04:36,730 --> 00:04:59,365\n為什麼這麼說?因為我們也知道說現在的資訊的傳播還有這些技術的這些進步已經是超越我們想像的那國防部包含美國國防部也是一樣那他們想要做革新想要更快速的裝備想要更快速的採用民間的技術或者釋出軍用的技術給民間其實都是需要更快速的方式快速裝備快速部署\n\n14\n00:05:00,726 --> 00:05:27,137\n作為一個公民一個平民因為我們不是軍人那我們當然是希望說國防部能夠用更快的速度來去協助我們相關的商業科技人才的組合所以我想要請教部長您怎麼看這樣子的委員會我覺得這一個很好的委員會他不管怎麼樣他從不同的角度提供他的國防部跟我們一樣我們有很多智庫但能夠提供給國防部的話一定是有所本的\n\n15\n00:05:27,717 --> 00:05:36,253\n那我們依據這個他研究出來的結果我們要中盤來檢討但對我們整體來講一定是正面幫助的多方的意見\n\n16\n00:05:38,095 --> 00:06:03,882\n會發覺我哪邊有不足的地方共同來改進這都是一個正面的我樂意見到這種意見部長謝謝可是因為我看到我們過去好像有類似的像國防科技發展的這個推行會那他好像是由副部長來做召集那他是要結合民間發動這一種國防科技的工業加速這些國防的這些自主等等的\n\n17\n00:06:04,182 --> 00:06:28,840\n可是他好像在109年就沒有運作了,可以請問一下原因嗎?還有運作嗎?有沒有運作?109年就沒運作了。報告委員,我是軍備局副局長。各位報告,我們現在國防部有結合這個國科會、經濟部推動這個先進科技。對這些基礎的研究,我們都有結合七大學院中心,持續在推展中。\n\n18\n00:06:29,741 --> 00:06:29,881\n國防創新委員會議員\n\n19\n00:06:45,325 --> 00:07:01,738\n其實在這個美國的這個國防創新委員會裡面,他不僅是有AI相關,包括生物化學的技術等等,這一些不只是商業,不只是研究,等於是各行各業的最top的人才都有機會給國防部部長諮詢。\n\n20\n00:07:02,859 --> 00:07:30,200\n那我認為這對國防部的創新也好或者是一些把這些最新的資訊納入我都認為是有幫助的所以很誠摯的希望部長能夠思考一下有沒有相關的可能性那特別是台灣現在的這個台海的戰略我們的台灣的重要性是增高的所以國防部不僅僅是國防的一環還有其他的相關產業其實都是很重要的一環是不是可以請國防部部長來相關的這些討論可以開始\n\n21\n00:07:31,621 --> 00:07:49,075\n是,絕對啊,因為剛剛我一開始表達,各方的意見或資料提供給我們,都是多方面參考的一個依據嘛。有做多段參考,它自然會有進步。那剛剛那個軍備局副局長講的,它雖然好像可能國防部在某一方面沒有主導,但還是一直在參與的。\n\n22\n00:07:50,636 --> 00:08:19,085\n現在因為大家資源共用嘛不要各部委都成立一個好像什麼智庫這智庫只要有關的大家都能夠相互參考委員剛剛提的我絕對願意啊能夠幫助能夠參與我絕對參與然後得到資料以後我們做一個參考非常感謝部長因為我們希望有快速的去創新是我們對於挑戰的一個最好的方式那因為我們加哈伊地區有民雄航太園區所以對於這樣子的我們國防\n\n23\n00:08:19,785 --> 00:08:45,268\n這采用最新的科技最新的技術還有就是民間的這些裝備我們都非常重視那我也非常肯定就是像是業務報告你們提及說在國防發展的時候你們舉辦了11場的說明會那我是希望未來特別針對重大的都市就六都以外的這些縣市能夠多辦這些說明會其實很多的這些產業產商都不見得是在六都裡面\n\n24\n00:08:46,289 --> 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防發展的時候你們舉辦了11場的說明會那我是希望未來特別針對重大的都市就六都以外的這些縣市能夠多辦這些說明會其實很多的這些產業產商都不見得是在六都裡面\n多有這樣的說明會他們才有機會參與國防產業那對於民間跟軍中的這樣的合作能夠加強那我想國防不是國防部的事情而已\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.210 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