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00:02:31,126\n因為我們本來的用NCC的那個新聞發佈室如果是要做遠距的會議的時候它有包含這個麥克風收音回收還有它的音場等等的問題所以我們發現這個問題之後我們就一次性的把它更新成比較新的設備麥克風換了多少的麥克風你們有幾間會議室啊新聞發佈室跟會議室上面這個花了一千多萬的總共幾間它是在一樓裡面的我們開大的會議的一間然後跟旁邊新聞發佈室另外一間兩個是對面\n\n8\n00:02:31,906 --> 00:02:50,618\n只用兩間花一千多萬那還有一個記者的這個等待室就三間吧記者的等待室裡面的麥克風等等的也都要重做不只是麥克風包含視訊設備嗎視訊設備但是那為什麼你們現在開會的時候常常你都是自己你們大家預算花了這麼多飛出國去開會我也沒很早看到你們說線上會議裡面去做什麼\n\n9\n00:02:52,739 --> 00:03:13,953\n今天大家質疑的是你們不只是花了很多的錢出國開會編了這麼多的預算我們就連只是會議室、新聞發布室兩間我算你三間花一千多萬我回應一下委員我在出國的時候其實公文是照簽我視訊會議照開並不是因為出國所以就不管國內的事情所以這是為什麼需要這種設備\n\n10\n00:03:15,434 --> 00:03:38,266\n所以你的意思是說別的單位都沒有這樣子的一個問題我在問一下我們在這個自由民主聯盟的這個出席上面那我們有參加這個自由線上聯盟去年9月20號那因應新技術帶來的風險等等你說AI的應用規範要這個社會同樣的推動然後呢講了很多那我請問一下\n\n11\n00:03:38,706 --> 00:03:55,395\n你們在國外說了這麼多AI管制我們在台灣具體目前的法規裡面你們已經推動通過了哪幾項AI相關的管制法規這裡的我們如果是講整個政府的話那在台灣對啊在投資詐騙上面在身為的這個色情影像上面\n\n12\n00:03:55,775 --> 00:04:16,392\n在選舉的干預上面等等都有專門針對身為或不一定是身為任何AI去做這方面的加重處罰那為什麼我們在台灣的資安的問題還這麼多、詐騙的問題還這麼多但是我們卻到國外去跟大家講說我們做了哪一些的相關的這些AI的法規推定但是我們在台灣發現是少的可憐\n\n13\n00:04:17,072 --> 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謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席,我們請唐部長請唐部長委員好部長好我想我們本來對數位發展部的想像很多比方說遠端工作、線上開會、線上參與國際會議等等結果沒想到我們的數位發展部的發展好像比其他的單位還要更加的傳統不只被批評花了太多錢出國我們還發現你們花了非常多的錢租用辦公室\n從民國111年8月27日掛牌至今一年半左右我問一下我們的部長我們光是辦公室的搬遷預算總共花了多少錢?\n如果是把租金放算進去的話在星光的部分我們的租金在前一年半是剛剛有人提到7000萬左右那但是如果是講顏評的話其實本來NCC就已經裝修過我們只是做簡單的室內裝潢喔你說是做簡單的室內裝潢嗎簡單的室內裝潢齁那我們整體的包含星光跟顏評我們的裝潢費花了多少錢\n您這個已經寫在這上面了,是決算3.9所以嘛,你看喔,成立1.5年,我們呢整體包含是租金,包含是辦公室的裝修我們花了預算就4.09億,決算是3.9億欸唐鳳部長,你會不會覺得這個經費太高了\n不過我們向上集中的積房本來在積房一次性的建置本來各部會積房那我問一個問題我們數位發展部的會議室跟新聞發布室的採購花了多少錢上面有寫但我希望你可以自己講出來是因為我們本來的那個新聞會議室就是用NCC的那不管是麥克風啊收音啊等等大概都有一些要\n麥克風跟收音我問的是我們光是會議室跟新聞發布室花了多少錢您剛剛黃底的這邊是一千萬嘛一千萬然後再加上追加這個65嘛65好所以花了一千多萬只做了新聞發布室跟會議室你剛剛說麥克風具體來說這一千萬花到哪裡去了跟大家做個說明吧是\n因為我們本來的用NCC的那個新聞發佈室如果是要做遠距的會議的時候它有包含這個麥克風收音回收還有它的音場等等的問題所以我們發現這個問題之後我們就一次性的把它更新成比較新的設備麥克風換了多少的麥克風你們有幾間會議室啊新聞發佈室跟會議室上面這個花了一千多萬的總共幾間它是在一樓裡面的我們開大的會議的一間然後跟旁邊新聞發佈室另外一間兩個是對面\n只用兩間花一千多萬那還有一個記者的這個等待室就三間吧記者的等待室裡面的麥克風等等的也都要重做不只是麥克風包含視訊設備嗎視訊設備但是那為什麼你們現在開會的時候常常你都是自己你們大家預算花了這麼多飛出國去開會我也沒很早看到你們說線上會議裡面去做什麼\n今天大家質疑的是你們不只是花了很多的錢出國開會編了這麼多的預算我們就連只是會議室、新聞發布室兩間我算你三間花一千多萬我回應一下委員我在出國的時候其實公文是照簽我視訊會議照開並不是因為出國所以就不管國內的事情所以這是為什麼需要這種設備\n所以你的意思是說別的單位都沒有這樣子的一個問題我在問一下我們在這個自由民主聯盟的這個出席上面那我們有參加這個自由線上聯盟去年9月20號那因應新技術帶來的風險等等你說AI的應用規範要這個社會同樣的推動然後呢講了很多那我請問一下\n你們在國外說了這麼多AI管制我們在台灣具體目前的法規裡面你們已經推動通過了哪幾項AI相關的管制法規這裡的我們如果是講整個政府的話那在台灣對啊在投資詐騙上面在身為的這個色情影像上面\n在選舉的干預上面等等都有專門針對身為或不一定是身為任何AI去做這方面的加重處罰那為什麼我們在台灣的資安的問題還這麼多、詐騙的問題還這麼多但是我們卻到國外去跟大家講說我們做了哪一些的相關的這些AI的法規推定但是我們在台灣發現是少的可憐\n我們剛剛講到這些在其他國家也未必有這第一個第二個像電子簽商法的修法我們已經提到立法院來了很多其他國家也未必有那也是我們董文君委員提了之後現在才跟進的我問一下自由民主聯盟我們是不是有你們有一行人15個人去開會這個就包含就是美國的國務卿布林肯嘛自由民主聯盟參與的這個目標裡面哪一點跟數位發展有關\n欸?在這裡面講的就是要保護線上的因AI帶來的生物的威脅啊?你們當時所提的計畫的目的叫做參與推動民主合作組織展現台灣跟國際推動民主事務的堅定決心你們都沒有談到所謂的數位沒有,我的意思是說你們今天數位發展部去的應該要上面的目的說明就要跟數位發展的內容有關突然的話我們就補助其他的單位去或者是外交部去不就好了嗎?\n但是民主峰會特別是第二次討論就是怎麼因應聲稱是AI啊那你們在寫報告的時候你們目的上面你就應該把這些內容都寫進來而不是讓大家認為說你們花了太多的錢出國但是都沒有做跟數位發展有關的事情這點請你們要必須要改進當然我們會盡可能的來強調好 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04:41.611\n我們剛剛講到這些在其他國家也未必有這第一個第二個像電子簽商法的修法我們已經提到立法院來了很多其他國家也未必有那也是我們董文君委員提了之後現在才跟進的我問一下自由民主聯盟我們是不是有你們有一行人15個人去開會這個就包含就是美國的國務卿布林肯嘛自由民主聯盟參與的這個目標裡面哪一點跟數位發展有關\n\n04:42.832 --> 05:09.187\n欸?在這裡面講的就是要保護線上的因AI帶來的生物的威脅啊?你們當時所提的計畫的目的叫做參與推動民主合作組織展現台灣跟國際推動民主事務的堅定決心你們都沒有談到所謂的數位沒有,我的意思是說你們今天數位發展部去的應該要上面的目的說明就要跟數位發展的內容有關突然的話我們就補助其他的單位去或者是外交部去不就好了嗎?\n\n05:09.907 --> 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