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00:03:46,313\n暴力妨礙自由等等這些相關的案件的不起訴處分的這個比率好像相當的高將近到七成不起訴處分那這個在實務上面他到底最大的困難是在哪裡\n\n10\n00:03:47,924 --> 00:04:08,604\n當然就是證據上的問題,那很多詐騙他的手腕也不斷的翻新,那有些被告的辯解,那有時候我們沒辦法去找到證據來跟我...這個部分就是一般民眾大家所不解的地方\n\n11\n00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:21,328\n人家說道高一尺謀高一丈但是我們我們是應該要謀高一尺道高一丈這些手法不斷的翻新沒有錯每次都有新型態的尤其是這個在現在的這個這個通訊詐騙上面這個\n\n12\n00:04:26,838 --> 00:04:54,666\n當然它會有一些新的形態的詐騙我們每針對一個形態我們去破解之後它會有一些新的形態那最重要就是這個現在因為它又牽涉到第三方支付又牽涉到虛擬貨幣又牽涉到這些通訊平台這些網路的這些詐欺這些部分上面在舉證上面目前我們應該是要我們不能說因為形態新的所以我們雙手一攤說這個現在實在犯罪形態\n\n13\n00:04:55,606 --> 00:05:25,306\n更新我們政府沒有辦法很抱歉大家自己小心這個不管怎麼樣也不是這個態度吧是所以我們這個這個這個部分我們是不是能夠在包括說現在我們跟這些相關的這些通訊平台上面有什麼樣司法上面我們有跟他們什麼樣的協議那有哪一些平台是能有跟我們這個我們國家司法單位司法跟警察單位合作有哪一些平台是沒有到目前為止沒有辦法取得他們的協助的\n\n14\n00:05:26,307 --> 00:05:27,728\n我看到這個111年行政院有公布這個詐騙目前\n\n15\n00:05:52,285 --> 00:06:18,238\n這個前三名大概第一名是這個假網路拍賣這個是第一名第二名是投資詐欺第三名是解除分期付款的詐欺112年有沒有統計我們現在新型態的這個我們現在112年已經過了過去的這一年我們的這個相關的這些這些詐騙案件他的類型他的成長案件數的成長我們有沒有做統計\n\n16\n00:06:19,478 --> 00:06:41,074\n我們把各類型有做一個分析哪個單位能夠調查局看看手邊有沒有這樣的分析但是他的形態他們有收集你們有沒有相關的統計跟委員報告因為我們調查局所處理的大概是比較\n\n17\n00:06:43,223 --> 00:06:43,343\n這個這個這個不用\n\n18\n00:07:00,327 --> 00:07:16,545\n我希望能夠看到像這個111年度行政院所發布這樣子的統計就是我們的相關不同類型的詐欺案件它的成長它的這個數字的消長這樣子會有利於這個這個我們掌握目前這個詐欺犯罪他們的這個形態跟宣導\n\n19\n00:07:17,926 --> 00:07:38,092\n我們以電話局處理的案件為例就是我們從111年的6月到112年的6月那我們處理的最多的應該是投資型的詐欺案件這差不多佔了75%投資型的那另外還有這個戀愛型的詐騙案件他大概是佔10%\n\n20\n00:07:40,313 --> 00:07:49,042\n那剩下的還有一些是假冒公務單位、檢察官或法官的這種詐騙案件你是不是會後能夠做一個統計數字給我\n\n21\n00:07:55,270 --> 00:08:19,223\n我想這個還是在目前這個包括這個剛剛也很多委員提到這個相關詐欺這些所得金額的這些查扣的部分我們現在目前這個在查扣動作上面都有一些問題這個是一般大概受害者最詬病的地方這部分希望我們這個法務部能夠跟這個\n\n22\n00:08:20,484 --> 00:08:41,597\n司法院這邊齁大家能夠在這方面齁能夠做一些協調啦齁能夠阻斷這樣子他們的這個能夠讓這個查扣的金額能夠這個時間能夠加快啦好不好那另外齁這還在一點時間我這個這個請問一下目前這個有關齁我們現在立法院大家在談這個\n\n23\n00:08:44,195 --> 00:09:09,527\n國會調查權的問題這部分我看到我們法務部的態度當然是說尊重立法院我們自己對立法院的尊重但是事實上這個有關於牽涉到偵查不公開的部分司法進行中的案件的這些部分我想這個跟我們法務部有極大的相關過去大法官也做了\n\n24\n00:09:10,387 --> 00:09:27,978\n三次的解釋有關於這個調查權跟這個我們現在正正辦中的司法案件他的相關的這些這些憲法的解釋這部分部長我是希望部長你除了尊重立法院以外齁因為這個東西不要立法院立出來之後然後大家再來爭執說你這個調查權跟\n\n25\n00:09:30,697 --> 00:09:30,817\n沈發惠\n\n26\n00:09:52,959 --> 00:10:04,963\n立法院的調查權是根據立法院的職權刑事法還有相關的規定所訂定的我們當然要尊重但是涉及到如果是還在偵查中的案件\n\n27\n00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:31,635\n那大法官的解釋也有說要保障檢查機關的獨立行使職權就是不能夠來要求我們在偵查中案件的一個提供相關的證據這個是應該是很清楚的這個部分在我希望說在未來因為我想在未來這段時間這個議題他還會在立法院繼續進行希望說我們法務部能夠就這個部分能夠表達我們這個實務上面\n\n28\n00:10:34,036 --> 00:10:34,076\n法務部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3390\t23144\t好 謝謝主席部長午安委員好首先我先感謝我們法務部檢察司這次幫忙協調有關這次律師的基礎訓因為報名名額的關係我們名額開只開810個今年大概有將近1000人報名\n29926\t52435\t那所以因為這個這個你一年如果說沒這個基礎訓沒有辦法再延一年就對對每一個這個律師都來這個新科律師來講都是生涯規劃的一個很大的影響啊那我們感謝這個那個檢查檢查室跟這個全聯會齁這是積極協調會確認是不是我們確認在第6提次會加開原額是加開原額但是現在\n59127\t87230\t我看到的這只有原則啦原則會加開原應該會在今年都會讓他們完訓但是具體的場地時間規劃通知都還沒有收到啦齁那這部分是不是請我們能夠盡快的作業讓這個確保考生這些考生我們要給他們公平的對待跟這個善盡告知的義務希望說是不是能夠我們能夠盡快的把這個\n88251\t88371\t對,這個是比較大\n107349\t121869\t再來就是說明年度是不是不要再發生類似的情況我們在預算的編列上面在計畫上面看起來都是比較保守不過跟委員說明這個是全立會他們是\n123231\t123371\t主席\n149844\t176605\t那接下來齁我看今天早上大家各每一個委員質詢大概都最關心都是這個這個詐騙案啦齁有關這個詐騙案的這個相關的這個辦理那這個為什麼這麼多委員會關心這個這顯然這個這個在台灣這個民意齁大家都已經認為說台灣的這個這個詐騙案件齁是已經是相當的嚴重了包括每一個人的個人生活經驗裡面都多少會收到啦齁\n177846\t204017\t大概我們包括我們這個剛剛所講的這些檢察檢察官助理這些等等這些相關的人士編織這些部長大概早上都已經做了說明我這邊就不再重複詢問了問題是這個部長是不是能夠讓大家知道瞭解說目前像我知道說目前這些這個我們的這個這些詐騙案件齁這個還有包括這些這個\n208084\t226313\t暴力妨礙自由等等這些相關的案件的不起訴處分的這個比率好像相當的高將近到七成不起訴處分那這個在實務上面他到底最大的困難是在哪裡\n227924\t248604\t當然就是證據上的問題,那很多詐騙他的手腕也不斷的翻新,那有些被告的辯解,那有時候我們沒辦法去找到證據來跟我...這個部分就是一般民眾大家所不解的地方\n250120\t261328\t人家說道高一尺謀高一丈但是我們我們是應該要謀高一尺道高一丈這些手法不斷的翻新沒有錯每次都有新型態的尤其是這個在現在的這個這個通訊詐騙上面這個\n266838\t294666\t當然它會有一些新的形態的詐騙我們每針對一個形態我們去破解之後它會有一些新的形態那最重要就是這個現在因為它又牽涉到第三方支付又牽涉到虛擬貨幣又牽涉到這些通訊平台這些網路的這些詐欺這些部分上面在舉證上面目前我們應該是要我們不能說因為形態新的所以我們雙手一攤說這個現在實在犯罪形態\n295606\t325306\t更新我們政府沒有辦法很抱歉大家自己小心這個不管怎麼樣也不是這個態度吧是所以我們這個這個這個部分我們是不是能夠在包括說現在我們跟這些相關的這些通訊平台上面有什麼樣司法上面我們有跟他們什麼樣的協議那有哪一些平台是能有跟我們這個我們國家司法單位司法跟警察單位合作有哪一些平台是沒有到目前為止沒有辦法取得他們的協助的\n326307\t327728\t我看到這個111年行政院有公布這個詐騙目前\n352285\t378238\t這個前三名大概第一名是這個假網路拍賣這個是第一名第二名是投資詐欺第三名是解除分期付款的詐欺112年有沒有統計我們現在新型態的這個我們現在112年已經過了過去的這一年我們的這個相關的這些這些詐騙案件他的類型他的成長案件數的成長我們有沒有做統計\n379478\t401074\t我們把各類型有做一個分析哪個單位能夠調查局看看手邊有沒有這樣的分析但是他的形態他們有收集你們有沒有相關的統計跟委員報告因為我們調查局所處理的大概是比較\n403223\t403343\t這個這個這個不用\n420327\t436545\t我希望能夠看到像這個111年度行政院所發布這樣子的統計就是我們的相關不同類型的詐欺案件它的成長它的這個數字的消長這樣子會有利於這個這個我們掌握目前這個詐欺犯罪他們的這個形態跟宣導\n437926\t458092\t我們以電話局處理的案件為例就是我們從111年的6月到112年的6月那我們處理的最多的應該是投資型的詐欺案件這差不多佔了75%投資型的那另外還有這個戀愛型的詐騙案件他大概是佔10%\n460313\t469042\t那剩下的還有一些是假冒公務單位、檢察官或法官的這種詐騙案件你是不是會後能夠做一個統計數字給我\n475270\t499223\t我想這個還是在目前這個包括這個剛剛也很多委員提到這個相關詐欺這些所得金額的這些查扣的部分我們現在目前這個在查扣動作上面都有一些問題這個是一般大概受害者最詬病的地方這部分希望我們這個法務部能夠跟這個\n500484\t521597\t司法院這邊齁大家能夠在這方面齁能夠做一些協調啦齁能夠阻斷這樣子他們的這個能夠讓這個查扣的金額能夠這個時間能夠加快啦好不好那另外齁這還在一點時間我這個這個請問一下目前這個有關齁我們現在立法院大家在談這個\n524195\t549527\t國會調查權的問題這部分我看到我們法務部的態度當然是說尊重立法院我們自己對立法院的尊重但是事實上這個有關於牽涉到偵查不公開的部分司法進行中的案件的這些部分我想這個跟我們法務部有極大的相關過去大法官也做了\n550387\t567978\t三次的解釋有關於這個調查權跟這個我們現在正正辦中的司法案件他的相關的這些這些憲法的解釋這部分部長我是希望部長你除了尊重立法院以外齁因為這個東西不要立法院立出來之後然後大家再來爭執說你這個調查權跟\n570697\t570817\t沈發惠\n592959\t604963\t立法院的調查權是根據立法院的職權刑事法還有相關的規定所訂定的我們當然要尊重但是涉及到如果是還在偵查中的案件\n605563\t631635\t那大法官的解釋也有說要保障檢查機關的獨立行使職權就是不能夠來要求我們在偵查中案件的一個提供相關的證據這個是應該是很清楚的這個部分在我希望說在未來因為我想在未來這段時間這個議題他還會在立法院繼續進行希望說我們法務部能夠就這個部分能夠表達我們這個實務上面\n634036\t634076\t法務部長\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席部長午安委員好首先我先感謝我們法務部檢察司這次幫忙協調有關這次律師的基礎訓因為報名名額的關係我們名額開只開810個今年大概有將近1000人報名\n那所以因為這個這個你一年如果說沒這個基礎訓沒有辦法再延一年就對對每一個這個律師都來這個新科律師來講都是生涯規劃的一個很大的影響啊那我們感謝這個那個檢查檢查室跟這個全聯會齁這是積極協調會確認是不是我們確認在第6提次會加開原額是加開原額但是現在\n我看到的這只有原則啦原則會加開原應該會在今年都會讓他們完訓但是具體的場地時間規劃通知都還沒有收到啦齁那這部分是不是請我們能夠盡快的作業讓這個確保考生這些考生我們要給他們公平的對待跟這個善盡告知的義務希望說是不是能夠我們能夠盡快的把這個\n對,這個是比較大\n再來就是說明年度是不是不要再發生類似的情況我們在預算的編列上面在計畫上面看起來都是比較保守不過跟委員說明這個是全立會他們是\n主席\n那接下來齁我看今天早上大家各每一個委員質詢大概都最關心都是這個這個詐騙案啦齁有關這個詐騙案的這個相關的這個辦理那這個為什麼這麼多委員會關心這個這顯然這個這個在台灣這個民意齁大家都已經認為說台灣的這個這個詐騙案件齁是已經是相當的嚴重了包括每一個人的個人生活經驗裡面都多少會收到啦齁\n大概我們包括我們這個剛剛所講的這些檢察檢察官助理這些等等這些相關的人士編織這些部長大概早上都已經做了說明我這邊就不再重複詢問了問題是這個部長是不是能夠讓大家知道瞭解說目前像我知道說目前這些這個我們的這個這些詐騙案件齁這個還有包括這些這個\n暴力妨礙自由等等這些相關的案件的不起訴處分的這個比率好像相當的高將近到七成不起訴處分那這個在實務上面他到底最大的困難是在哪裡\n當然就是證據上的問題,那很多詐騙他的手腕也不斷的翻新,那有些被告的辯解,那有時候我們沒辦法去找到證據來跟我...這個部分就是一般民眾大家所不解的地方\n人家說道高一尺謀高一丈但是我們我們是應該要謀高一尺道高一丈這些手法不斷的翻新沒有錯每次都有新型態的尤其是這個在現在的這個這個通訊詐騙上面這個\n當然它會有一些新的形態的詐騙我們每針對一個形態我們去破解之後它會有一些新的形態那最重要就是這個現在因為它又牽涉到第三方支付又牽涉到虛擬貨幣又牽涉到這些通訊平台這些網路的這些詐欺這些部分上面在舉證上面目前我們應該是要我們不能說因為形態新的所以我們雙手一攤說這個現在實在犯罪形態\n更新我們政府沒有辦法很抱歉大家自己小心這個不管怎麼樣也不是這個態度吧是所以我們這個這個這個部分我們是不是能夠在包括說現在我們跟這些相關的這些通訊平台上面有什麼樣司法上面我們有跟他們什麼樣的協議那有哪一些平台是能有跟我們這個我們國家司法單位司法跟警察單位合作有哪一些平台是沒有到目前為止沒有辦法取得他們的協助的\n我看到這個111年行政院有公布這個詐騙目前\n這個前三名大概第一名是這個假網路拍賣這個是第一名第二名是投資詐欺第三名是解除分期付款的詐欺112年有沒有統計我們現在新型態的這個我們現在112年已經過了過去的這一年我們的這個相關的這些這些詐騙案件他的類型他的成長案件數的成長我們有沒有做統計\n我們把各類型有做一個分析哪個單位能夠調查局看看手邊有沒有這樣的分析但是他的形態他們有收集你們有沒有相關的統計跟委員報告因為我們調查局所處理的大概是比較\n這個這個這個不用\n我希望能夠看到像這個111年度行政院所發布這樣子的統計就是我們的相關不同類型的詐欺案件它的成長它的這個數字的消長這樣子會有利於這個這個我們掌握目前這個詐欺犯罪他們的這個形態跟宣導\n我們以電話局處理的案件為例就是我們從111年的6月到112年的6月那我們處理的最多的應該是投資型的詐欺案件這差不多佔了75%投資型的那另外還有這個戀愛型的詐騙案件他大概是佔10%\n那剩下的還有一些是假冒公務單位、檢察官或法官的這種詐騙案件你是不是會後能夠做一個統計數字給我\n我想這個還是在目前這個包括這個剛剛也很多委員提到這個相關詐欺這些所得金額的這些查扣的部分我們現在目前這個在查扣動作上面都有一些問題這個是一般大概受害者最詬病的地方這部分希望我們這個法務部能夠跟這個\n司法院這邊齁大家能夠在這方面齁能夠做一些協調啦齁能夠阻斷這樣子他們的這個能夠讓這個查扣的金額能夠這個時間能夠加快啦好不好那另外齁這還在一點時間我這個這個請問一下目前這個有關齁我們現在立法院大家在談這個\n國會調查權的問題這部分我看到我們法務部的態度當然是說尊重立法院我們自己對立法院的尊重但是事實上這個有關於牽涉到偵查不公開的部分司法進行中的案件的這些部分我想這個跟我們法務部有極大的相關過去大法官也做了\n三次的解釋有關於這個調查權跟這個我們現在正正辦中的司法案件他的相關的這些這些憲法的解釋這部分部長我是希望部長你除了尊重立法院以外齁因為這個東西不要立法院立出來之後然後大家再來爭執說你這個調查權跟\n沈發惠\n立法院的調查權是根據立法院的職權刑事法還有相關的規定所訂定的我們當然要尊重但是涉及到如果是還在偵查中的案件\n那大法官的解釋也有說要保障檢查機關的獨立行使職權就是不能夠來要求我們在偵查中案件的一個提供相關的證據這個是應該是很清楚的這個部分在我希望說在未來因為我想在未來這段時間這個議題他還會在立法院繼續進行希望說我們法務部能夠就這個部分能夠表達我們這個實務上面\n法務部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.390 --> 00:23.144\n好謝謝主席部長午安委員好首先我先感謝我們法務部檢察司這次幫忙協調有關這次律師的基礎訓因為報名名額的關係我們名額開只開810個今年大概有將近1000人報名\n\n00:29.926 --> 00:52.435\n那所以因為這個這個你一年如果說沒這個基礎訓沒有辦法再延一年就對對每一個這個律師都來這個新科律師來講都是生涯規劃的一個很大的影響啊那我們感謝這個那個檢查檢查室跟這個全聯會齁這是積極協調會確認是不是我們確認在第6提次會加開原額是加開原額但是現在\n\n00:59.127 --> 01:27.230\n我看到的這只有原則啦原則會加開原應該會在今年都會讓他們完訓但是具體的場地時間規劃通知都還沒有收到啦齁那這部分是不是請我們能夠盡快的作業讓這個確保考生這些考生我們要給他們公平的對待跟這個善盡告知的義務希望說是不是能夠我們能夠盡快的把這個\n\n01:28.251 --> 01:28.371\n對,這個是比較大\n\n01:47.349 --> 02:01.869\n再來就是說明年度是不是不要再發生類似的情況我們在預算的編列上面在計畫上面看起來都是比較保守不過跟委員說明這個是全立會他們是\n\n02:03.231 --> 02:03.371\n主席\n\n02:29.844 --> 02:56.605\n那接下來齁我看今天早上大家各每一個委員質詢大概都最關心都是這個這個詐騙案啦齁有關這個詐騙案的這個相關的這個辦理那這個為什麼這麼多委員會關心這個這顯然這個這個在台灣這個民意齁大家都已經認為說台灣的這個這個詐騙案件齁是已經是相當的嚴重了包括每一個人的個人生活經驗裡面都多少會收到啦齁\n\n02:57.846 --> 03:24.017\n大概我們包括我們這個剛剛所講的這些檢察檢察官助理這些等等這些相關的人士編織這些部長大概早上都已經做了說明我這邊就不再重複詢問了問題是這個部長是不是能夠讓大家知道瞭解說目前像我知道說目前這些這個我們的這個這些詐騙案件齁這個還有包括這些這個\n\n03:28.084 --> 03:46.313\n暴力妨礙自由等等這些相關的案件的不起訴處分的這個比率好像相當的高將近到七成不起訴處分那這個在實務上面他到底最大的困難是在哪裡\n\n03:47.924 --> 04:08.604\n當然就是證據上的問題,那很多詐騙他的手腕也不斷的翻新,那有些被告的辯解,那有時候我們沒辦法去找到證據來跟我...這個部分就是一般民眾大家所不解的地方\n\n04:10.120 --> 04:21.328\n人家說道高一尺謀高一丈但是我們我們是應該要謀高一尺道高一丈這些手法不斷的翻新沒有錯每次都有新型態的尤其是這個在現在的這個這個通訊詐騙上面這個\n\n04:26.838 --> 04:54.666\n當然它會有一些新的形態的詐騙我們每針對一個形態我們去破解之後它會有一些新的形態那最重要就是這個現在因為它又牽涉到第三方支付又牽涉到虛擬貨幣又牽涉到這些通訊平台這些網路的這些詐欺這些部分上面在舉證上面目前我們應該是要我們不能說因為形態新的所以我們雙手一攤說這個現在實在犯罪形態\n\n04:55.606 --> 05:25.306\n更新我們政府沒有辦法很抱歉大家自己小心這個不管怎麼樣也不是這個態度吧是所以我們這個這個這個部分我們是不是能夠在包括說現在我們跟這些相關的這些通訊平台上面有什麼樣司法上面我們有跟他們什麼樣的協議那有哪一些平台是能有跟我們這個我們國家司法單位司法跟警察單位合作有哪一些平台是沒有到目前為止沒有辦法取得他們的協助的\n\n05:26.307 --> 05:27.728\n我看到這個111年行政院有公布這個詐騙目前\n\n05:52.285 --> 06:18.238\n這個前三名大概第一名是這個假網路拍賣這個是第一名第二名是投資詐欺第三名是解除分期付款的詐欺112年有沒有統計我們現在新型態的這個我們現在112年已經過了過去的這一年我們的這個相關的這些這些詐騙案件他的類型他的成長案件數的成長我們有沒有做統計\n\n06:19.478 --> 06:41.074\n我們把各類型有做一個分析哪個單位能夠調查局看看手邊有沒有這樣的分析但是他的形態他們有收集你們有沒有相關的統計跟委員報告因為我們調查局所處理的大概是比較\n\n06:43.223 --> 06:43.343\n這個這個這個不用\n\n07:00.327 --> 07:16.545\n我希望能夠看到像這個111年度行政院所發布這樣子的統計就是我們的相關不同類型的詐欺案件它的成長它的這個數字的消長這樣子會有利於這個這個我們掌握目前這個詐欺犯罪他們的這個形態跟宣導\n\n07:17.926 --> 07:38.092\n我們以電話局處理的案件為例就是我們從111年的6月到112年的6月那我們處理的最多的應該是投資型的詐欺案件這差不多佔了75%投資型的那另外還有這個戀愛型的詐騙案件他大概是佔10%\n\n07:40.313 --> 07:49.042\n那剩下的還有一些是假冒公務單位、檢察官或法官的這種詐騙案件你是不是會後能夠做一個統計數字給我\n\n07:55.270 --> 08:19.223\n我想這個還是在目前這個包括這個剛剛也很多委員提到這個相關詐欺這些所得金額的這些查扣的部分我們現在目前這個在查扣動作上面都有一些問題這個是一般大概受害者最詬病的地方這部分希望我們這個法務部能夠跟這個\n\n08:20.484 --> 08:41.597\n司法院這邊齁大家能夠在這方面齁能夠做一些協調啦齁能夠阻斷這樣子他們的這個能夠讓這個查扣的金額能夠這個時間能夠加快啦好不好那另外齁這還在一點時間我這個這個請問一下目前這個有關齁我們現在立法院大家在談這個\n\n08:44.195 --> 09:09.527\n國會調查權的問題這部分我看到我們法務部的態度當然是說尊重立法院我們自己對立法院的尊重但是事實上這個有關於牽涉到偵查不公開的部分司法進行中的案件的這些部分我想這個跟我們法務部有極大的相關過去大法官也做了\n\n09:10.387 --> 09:27.978\n三次的解釋有關於這個調查權跟這個我們現在正正辦中的司法案件他的相關的這些這些憲法的解釋這部分部長我是希望部長你除了尊重立法院以外齁因為這個東西不要立法院立出來之後然後大家再來爭執說你這個調查權跟\n\n09:30.697 --> 09:30.817\n沈發惠\n\n09:52.959 --> 10:04.963\n立法院的調查權是根據立法院的職權刑事法還有相關的規定所訂定的我們當然要尊重但是涉及到如果是還在偵查中的案件\n\n10:05.563 --> 10:31.635\n那大法官的解釋也有說要保障檢查機關的獨立行使職權就是不能夠來要求我們在偵查中案件的一個提供相關的證據這個是應該是很清楚的這個部分在我希望說在未來因為我想在未來這段時間這個議題他還會在立法院繼續進行希望說我們法務部能夠就這個部分能夠表達我們這個實務上面\n\n10:34.036 --> 10:34.076\n法務部長\n\n","segments":[{"start":3.39,"end":23.144,"text":"好 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