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00:01:47,599\n我問你這題你就大概知道我要問什麼了那我今天要跟你討論的就是電競的議題\n\n7\n00:02:01,978 --> 00:02:17,944\n我自己有承諾過電競的相關不管是選手或是團隊我要做一個電競選手他們最大的一個靠山作為一個電競立委我想2017年11月7日立法院三讀通過運動產業發展條例的部分條文將電子競技業納入運動產業電子選手比照運動項目相有國家的選拔\n\n8\n00:02:25,407 --> 00:02:49,403\n培訓、賽事、國光獎章等資源也就是電競終於被證明但是7年過去的我們可以看到台灣電競產業的發展卻止步不前陳建仁院長在去年10月13日台灣代表隊在杭州亞運的反國參會對選手說選手不用擔心我們政府做你的後盾113年度體育署預算137.65億加上110年底修法\n\n9\n00:02:55,307 --> 00:03:18,878\n我們通過運動產業發展條例第26條之二擴大企業的捐贈誘因我們有30億元整個總額我們有突破將近160億我想整個預算的增加持續優化訓練環境後勤的資源等這些都是當時陳院長所提出的但是今年\n\n10\n00:03:19,798 --> 00:03:47,464\n就在今年2月27日卻傳出了電競選手獨自帶著300美元征戰卡普空杯快打旋風6這樣子的一個辛酸故事最後這個選手奪冠了電競協會在第一時間發文道賀卻被當時的網友酸說沒有資助選手出國比賽人家得冠軍才來蹭熱度\n\n11\n00:03:49,244 --> 00:04:14,658\n我想要去還原事實真相因為我想電競協會也有一些苦衷但是次長我想先請問你中華民國電子競技協會說自己是教育部體育署與中華奧委會指定電競事務委辦單位現由教育部體育署輔導為教育部體育署全民運動組內具有國際窗口之非亞運動團體是否屬實?\n\n12\n00:04:17,768 --> 00:04:22,550\n電競協會領教育部多少補助?教育部有沒有統計?電競協會110年到112年共拿了一千多萬一年三百多萬而已\n\n13\n00:04:43,496 --> 00:04:58,529\n而以先不論補助是多是少現在大家在乎的是我們都以為政府會把電競放在長遠的一個目標來規劃我們來討論探討並且把他們納入我們最重要要發展的一個項目\n\n14\n00:04:59,750 --> 00:05:19,666\n因為台灣電競講真的喔在國人的一個印象當中亞洲國家我們電競是算感覺起來是滿有一個規模因為我們的選手帶來了很多的獎項回來我們的起步算很早當時跟我們中國還有韓國是平起平坐\n\n15\n00:05:20,931 --> 00:05:45,514\n我想我們沒有任何的準備現在人家已經超越我們了我想我看到我們韓國中國日本各個亞洲國家當時我們的這個電競選手是感覺到讓國人非常非常的羽與龍焉為什麼因為當時很多的世界比賽我們有得獎啊\n\n16\n00:05:46,618 --> 00:06:05,324\n我想到底現在問題到底怎麼樣我看到四個困境第一政府機關缺少專業人才第二我們沒有電競的專門機構第三補助的資源分配不均電競的專才一直在流失政府機關缺少專業人才就是沒有人懂電競嘛\n\n17\n00:06:06,724 --> 00:06:31,316\n對不起,市長剛剛詢問您有沒有玩過遊戲當然我以為你會說沒有啦但是您的回答跟沒有其實差不多這不怪罪你玩俄羅斯方塊跟現在真的是差距非常的大我想公務人員多少懂一些的話他就可以具體的去了解怎麼解決這個問題但是我看到電競產業就現在就是複製貼上我們把籃球棒球做過的事情成立協會給補助複製貼上得過且過嘛\n\n18\n00:06:34,477 --> 00:07:03,318\n再來電競產業不像韓國有一個專門的機構那個專門的機構他們當時有去找比賽來做例如WCG世界電玩大賽台灣以前有叫做台灣電子競技聯盟他們會去找比賽來做但現在不太一樣喔現在是遊戲廠商希望透過電子競技比賽來拉抬他的遊戲他們會願意撥預算去找一個執行單位來主導我想廠商想做的是\n\n19\n00:07:04,099 --> 00:07:30,713\n那些廠商就會撥預算廠商如果沒做我們這些執行單位也沒事我想入法了證明了然後呢礙於法規上的一個限制每年國際電競大賽政府沒有補助協會也沒辦法做什麼終究選手還是得靠自己市長不知道我這樣講完你有沒有發現政府在這個產業鏈當中完全沒有一個重要的角色來擔當我想真正能夠補助到這些電競\n\n20\n00:07:32,576 --> 00:07:42,083\n選手上面的我覺得真的很少我想支援分配體育署一年的預算160億元現在補助在電競上千分之一不到\n\n21\n00:07:43,764 --> 00:08:08,598\n這個部分都是我們現在看到的困境市長我已經講了這麼多我真的很期待國人就現在來說我們自己很期待棒球籃球跆拳道舉重羽毛球我想電競也會是一個選項之一但是我們連基本的日常訓練出國參賽機票都出不了補助不了他們的國手\n\n22\n00:08:09,238 --> 00:08:31,444\n我想我們應該好好的考慮是不是能夠思考我們有一個電競賽事的專門機構根據台灣及國際專注的電競項目去補助選手幫助選手日常的訓練提供他們能夠去做出國比賽的經費另外更重要是我們沒有看到一個專業的場地能夠讓他們有這個機會去做培訓\n\n23\n00:08:34,625 --> 00:08:55,247\n我們看到人才的流失直接找不到這樣子的一個機會整個電競產業的結構我們應該要先把前端先做好才不會說我們得到了一個電競冠軍的人才結果呢這個人才後面的規劃我們沒辦法想像次長你認為在政府上還能夠給予什麼樣的協助成立專責機構可行嗎\n\n24\n00:08:58,079 --> 00:09:19,428\n跟委員報告一下那個電子競技大概包含了從那個去年的亞運還有巴黎奧運的部分也列為這個競賽的一個項目所以我們也輔導我們的這個這個協會在選人手的選拔以及參賽所需要的相關的一些的培訓跟所需的經費的部分這個部分我們大概都會來協助跟幫忙\n\n25\n00:09:20,588 --> 00:09:45,488\n至於剛剛提到的那個電子競技協會因為去年它有一些的狀況也是在大院的這個要求之下那對於經費的部分我們是有給予這個佐檢的這個相關的一個經費不過我想針對選手的參賽的部分所需要的相關經費基本上我們會來這個協助跟幫忙那至於剛剛委員提到的因為在雖然那個運動產業發展條例那訂定那這裡面也涉及到相關的運動產業那針對電子競技的部分的話\n\n26\n00:09:49,231 --> 00:10:13,266\n我是由教育部跟包含的經濟部,產業的部分主要是在經濟部,後來當然樹花部也成立了。我想在產業的這個部分的發展,可能這個部分是屬於經濟部跟數位發展部的一個權責。這個部分在產業發展的部分,我們也會同相關部會的部分,就有關成立專法的部分來進行相關的研議。\n\n27\n00:10:13,626 --> 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廠商如果沒做我們這些執行單位也沒事我想入法了 證明了 然後呢 礙於法規上的一個限制每年國際電競大賽政府沒有補助 協會也沒辦法做什麼 終究選手還是得靠自己市長 不知道我這樣講完你有沒有發現政府在這個產業鏈當中 完全沒有一個重要的角色來擔當我想 真正能夠補助到這些電競\n選手上面的我覺得真的很少我想支援分配體育署一年的預算160億元現在補助在電競上千分之一不到\n這個部分都是我們現在看到的困境市長我已經講了這麼多我真的很期待國人就現在來說我們自己很期待棒球籃球跆拳道舉重羽毛球我想電競也會是一個選項之一但是我們連基本的日常訓練出國參賽機票都出不了補助不了他們的國手\n我想我們應該好好的考慮是不是能夠思考我們有一個電競賽事的專門機構根據台灣及國際專注的電競項目去補助選手幫助選手日常的訓練提供他們能夠去做出國比賽的經費另外更重要是我們沒有看到一個專業的場地能夠讓他們有這個機會去做培訓\n我們看到人才的流失直接找不到這樣子的一個機會整個電競產業的結構我們應該要先把前端先做好才不會說我們得到了一個電競冠軍的人才結果呢這個人才後面的規劃我們沒辦法想像次長你認為在政府上還能夠給予什麼樣的協助成立專責機構可行嗎\n跟委員報告一下那個電子競技大概包含了從那個去年的亞運還有巴黎奧運的部分也列為這個競賽的一個項目所以我們也輔導我們的這個這個協會在選人手的選拔以及參賽所需要的相關的一些的培訓跟所需的經費的部分這個部分我們大概都會來協助跟幫忙\n至於剛剛提到的那個電子競技協會因為去年它有一些的狀況也是在大院的這個要求之下那對於經費的部分我們是有給予這個佐檢的這個相關的一個經費不過我想針對選手的參賽的部分所需要的相關經費基本上我們會來這個協助跟幫忙那至於剛剛委員提到的因為在雖然那個運動產業發展條例那訂定那這裡面也涉及到相關的運動產業那針對電子競技的部分的話\n我是由教育部跟包含的經濟部,產業的部分主要是在經濟部,後來當然樹花部也成立了。我想在產業的這個部分的發展,可能這個部分是屬於經濟部跟數位發展部的一個權責。這個部分在產業發展的部分,我們也會同相關部會的部分,就有關成立專法的部分來進行相關的研議。\n所以我還是想說國際奧林匹克委員會已經指示了電競委員會要展開研究要舉辦電競奧運的可能性我想國家訓練中心在電子競技當中我們有看到一個培訓的場館這也是我們希望的不管是培訓場館或者是家喻補助不只是用在協會上的補助對於電競選手能夠直接的關心這也是我們寄予重望未來我們更希望我們的電競能夠打敗韓國打敗中國\n這是我們未來的展望。我們希望你可以加油。謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.702 --> 00:14.992\n主席,謝謝。有請次長還有運科中心執行長。好,我們請林次長跟黃執行長\n\n00:17.137 --> 00:42.245\n羅廷瑋好市長好市長好我想剛剛有許多的立法委員也都非常關心這個議題我就不再糾結太久但我還是要念一下運科中心112年9月16成立到現在就我所知道我覺得是半年當然你說1月1號開始運作那點開運科中心的首頁三個類別運動醫學研究運動科學研究資訊科技開發這三個研究是掛鈴\n\n00:46.006 --> 01:04.722\n頁面寫著:「建制,敬請期待。公刊資訊欄除了法規以外全數也掛零。計劃、決算、預算、採購作業的一個實施規章都沒有。」我想這個部分也是敬請期待喔。我想剛剛你有提到啦,3月底會完成。執行長是嗎?是的。\n\n01:06.305 --> 01:06.525\n市長,我想請問一下\n\n01:31.118 --> 01:32.680\n你有玩過手機遊戲、電腦遊戲嗎?可以分享一下年輕大家玩什麼嗎?什麼?\n\n01:44.755 --> 01:47.599\n我問你這題你就大概知道我要問什麼了那我今天要跟你討論的就是電競的議題\n\n02:01.978 --> 02:17.944\n我自己有承諾過電競的相關不管是選手或是團隊我要做一個電競選手他們最大的一個靠山作為一個電競立委我想2017年11月7日立法院三讀通過運動產業發展條例的部分條文將電子競技業納入運動產業電子選手比照運動項目相有國家的選拔\n\n02:25.407 --> 02:49.403\n培訓、賽事、國光獎章等資源也就是電競終於被證明但是7年過去的我們可以看到台灣電競產業的發展卻止步不前陳建仁院長在去年10月13日台灣代表隊在杭州亞運的反國參會對選手說選手不用擔心我們政府做你的後盾113年度體育署預算137.65億加上110年底修法\n\n02:55.307 --> 03:18.878\n我們通過運動產業發展條例第26條之二擴大企業的捐贈誘因我們有30億元整個總額我們有突破將近160億我想整個預算的增加持續優化訓練環境後勤的資源等這些都是當時陳院長所提出的但是今年\n\n03:19.798 --> 03:47.464\n就在今年2月27日卻傳出了電競選手獨自帶著300美元征戰卡普空杯快打旋風6這樣子的一個辛酸故事最後這個選手奪冠了電競協會在第一時間發文道賀卻被當時的網友酸說沒有資助選手出國比賽人家得冠軍才來蹭熱度\n\n03:49.244 --> 04:14.658\n我想要去還原事實真相因為我想電競協會也有一些苦衷但是次長我想先請問你中華民國電子競技協會說自己是教育部體育署與中華奧委會指定電競事務委辦單位現由教育部體育署輔導為教育部體育署全民運動組內具有國際窗口之非亞運動團體是否屬實?\n\n04:17.768 --> 04:22.550\n電競協會領教育部多少補助?教育部有沒有統計?電競協會110年到112年共拿了一千多萬一年三百多萬而已\n\n04:43.496 --> 04:58.529\n而以先不論補助是多是少現在大家在乎的是我們都以為政府會把電競放在長遠的一個目標來規劃我們來討論探討並且把他們納入我們最重要要發展的一個項目\n\n04:59.750 --> 05:19.666\n因為台灣電競講真的喔在國人的一個印象當中亞洲國家我們電競是算感覺起來是滿有一個規模因為我們的選手帶來了很多的獎項回來我們的起步算很早當時跟我們中國還有韓國是平起平坐\n\n05:20.931 --> 05:45.514\n我想我們沒有任何的準備現在人家已經超越我們了我想我看到我們韓國中國日本各個亞洲國家當時我們的這個電競選手是感覺到讓國人非常非常的羽與龍焉為什麼因為當時很多的世界比賽我們有得獎啊\n\n05:46.618 --> 06:05.324\n我想到底現在問題到底怎麼樣我看到四個困境第一政府機關缺少專業人才第二我們沒有電競的專門機構第三補助的資源分配不均電競的專才一直在流失政府機關缺少專業人才就是沒有人懂電競嘛\n\n06:06.724 --> 06:31.316\n對不起,市長剛剛詢問您有沒有玩過遊戲當然我以為你會說沒有啦但是您的回答跟沒有其實差不多這不怪罪你玩俄羅斯方塊跟現在真的是差距非常的大我想公務人員多少懂一些的話他就可以具體的去了解怎麼解決這個問題但是我看到電競產業就現在就是複製貼上我們把籃球棒球做過的事情成立協會給補助複製貼上得過且過嘛\n\n06:34.477 --> 07:03.318\n再來電競產業不像韓國有一個專門的機構那個專門的機構他們當時有去找比賽來做例如WCG世界電玩大賽台灣以前有叫做台灣電子競技聯盟他們會去找比賽來做但現在不太一樣喔現在是遊戲廠商希望透過電子競技比賽來拉抬他的遊戲他們會願意撥預算去找一個執行單位來主導我想廠商想做的是\n\n07:04.099 --> 07:30.713\n那些廠商就會撥預算廠商如果沒做我們這些執行單位也沒事我想入法了證明了然後呢礙於法規上的一個限制每年國際電競大賽政府沒有補助協會也沒辦法做什麼終究選手還是得靠自己市長不知道我這樣講完你有沒有發現政府在這個產業鏈當中完全沒有一個重要的角色來擔當我想真正能夠補助到這些電競\n\n07:32.576 --> 07:42.083\n選手上面的我覺得真的很少我想支援分配體育署一年的預算160億元現在補助在電競上千分之一不到\n\n07:43.764 --> 08:08.598\n這個部分都是我們現在看到的困境市長我已經講了這麼多我真的很期待國人就現在來說我們自己很期待棒球籃球跆拳道舉重羽毛球我想電競也會是一個選項之一但是我們連基本的日常訓練出國參賽機票都出不了補助不了他們的國手\n\n08:09.238 --> 08:31.444\n我想我們應該好好的考慮是不是能夠思考我們有一個電競賽事的專門機構根據台灣及國際專注的電競項目去補助選手幫助選手日常的訓練提供他們能夠去做出國比賽的經費另外更重要是我們沒有看到一個專業的場地能夠讓他們有這個機會去做培訓\n\n08:34.625 --> 08:55.247\n我們看到人才的流失直接找不到這樣子的一個機會整個電競產業的結構我們應該要先把前端先做好才不會說我們得到了一個電競冠軍的人才結果呢這個人才後面的規劃我們沒辦法想像次長你認為在政府上還能夠給予什麼樣的協助成立專責機構可行嗎\n\n08:58.079 --> 09:19.428\n跟委員報告一下那個電子競技大概包含了從那個去年的亞運還有巴黎奧運的部分也列為這個競賽的一個項目所以我們也輔導我們的這個這個協會在選人手的選拔以及參賽所需要的相關的一些的培訓跟所需的經費的部分這個部分我們大概都會來協助跟幫忙\n\n09:20.588 --> 09:45.488\n至於剛剛提到的那個電子競技協會因為去年它有一些的狀況也是在大院的這個要求之下那對於經費的部分我們是有給予這個佐檢的這個相關的一個經費不過我想針對選手的參賽的部分所需要的相關經費基本上我們會來這個協助跟幫忙那至於剛剛委員提到的因為在雖然那個運動產業發展條例那訂定那這裡面也涉及到相關的運動產業那針對電子競技的部分的話\n\n09:49.231 --> 10:13.266\n我是由教育部跟包含的經濟部,產業的部分主要是在經濟部,後來當然樹花部也成立了。我想在產業的這個部分的發展,可能這個部分是屬於經濟部跟數位發展部的一個權責。這個部分在產業發展的部分,我們也會同相關部會的部分,就有關成立專法的部分來進行相關的研議。\n\n10:13.626 --> 10:38.139\n所以我還是想說國際奧林匹克委員會已經指示了電競委員會要展開研究要舉辦電競奧運的可能性我想國家訓練中心在電子競技當中我們有看到一個培訓的場館這也是我們希望的不管是培訓場館或者是家喻補助不只是用在協會上的補助對於電競選手能夠直接的關心這也是我們寄予重望未來我們更希望我們的電競能夠打敗韓國打敗中國\n\n10:40.741 --> 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