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憶　　牛煦庭　　林宜瑾　　洪孟楷　　吳春城"],["主席：好，請問提案委員有無補充說明或意見？好，陳培瑜委員。"],["陳委員培瑜：我們提的那一案，剛剛教育部有來溝通，希望我們把「嚴重失能」改成「不足」，我們可以接受，是不是也請教育部確定一下這樣的寫法OK？"],["主席：好，我們請林次長。"],["林次長騰蛟：好，跟委員報告一下，第一案我們配合辦理。第二案也謝謝提案的陳培瑜委員同意，我們做文字上的修正，就是第五行後半的「已經嚴重失能」這六個字改為「不足」，這個部分我們修正後配合辦理，以上說明。謝謝。"],["主席：好，我們請范雲委員。"],["范委員雲：我想針對第二案補充一下，因為我是共提人。剛剛已經講到足協的問題，監理看起來問題真的滿大的，通案上也要請教育部多努力。謝謝。"],["主席：我們再請洪孟楷委員發言。"],["洪委員孟楷：好，感謝召委。第一案行政部門就是照案通過，而且非常認同，也感謝所有的提案委員，但是幾個部分，第一，是不是能夠再給本席以及教文委員會的委員資料，就是目前為止，運動心理師現在配置的人數跟運作的狀況？第二個部分，我們有提到物理治療相對重要，但是今天比較遺憾的是沒有看到物理治療的部分。你們講的是原則，但是到底實際的設備現在有哪些？是不是也請國訓中心給本席資料？我們看到最近NBA得4萬分的LeBron 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00:02:38,894\n可是呢到現在你們都沒做我在想為什麼文化部在我們的監督下你現在上文化部的網站就有文化藝術工作者的契約範本專區教育部體育署為什麼做不到呢這件事情已經從拜資穎到現在如果沒有立委幫他們關心或者他沒有辦法大道上新聞的話難道我們等這些協會慢慢你跟他座談輔導嗎\n\n8\n00:02:40,314 --> 00:03:01,239\n一文工作者權益的保障當然是重要的文化不能做到體育署是不是可以向文化部學習提出我們體育選手跟協會的契約範本然後上網公告呢?報告委員我完全認同這部分我會來進行那謝謝因為時間有限那什麼時候之前可以完成上網可不可以給我一個時間點\n\n9\n00:03:02,899 --> 00:03:06,421\n我們還是希望一些專家學者一起會談可不可以3個月給我們一點時間3個月好那就3個月後我們監督好那下一題那其實根本來講就是因為體育協會有協會在處理這些事情產業有那些產業可是運動選手沒有人站在他們的權益上保障所以我一直倡議這個是剛剛已經講了倡議應該讓運動員組工會\n\n10\n00:03:31,354 --> 00:03:50,700\n那你看我110年11年121年113年每年預算都追緩步前進之前為什麼沒有很嚴厲來問體育署您應該知道為什麼嗎因為我們之前沒有署長我們次長手下要管多少事教育部這麼大的部所以剛臨緊委員希望升格我也非常的支持\n\n11\n00:03:52,180 --> 00:04:13,470\n現在署長您來了一年了我可以追問這件事你們下面每次回應我們都是緩步前進請問您體育署應該是站在協會這邊還是站在選手這邊?不管選手跟協會都是我的左右手都是你的左右手那您協會一天到晚跟他座談您體育選手有座談過嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:15,171 --> 00:04:29,200\n報告委員我們目前一陣子的網球已經有進行只有一個網球請問你我們有多少協會體育署下面目前的確這部分我們正在因為這幾次的事件數字體育署我們有多少協會我們目前有72個協會您知道有幾個協會有選手組成公會嗎\n\n13\n00:04:33,863 --> 00:04:52,758\n目前有籃球、棒球以及女足公會為主72分之3我已經要到了72分之3所以這樣子報委員我們如果是以沒有拿薪資的部分目前是以國體法裡面的運動員委員會為主但如果是有拿薪水的部分的確這部分我們可以來協助\n\n14\n00:04:53,499 --> 00:04:53,799\n新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞\n\n15\n00:05:17,932 --> 00:05:35,818\n你們給我的報告我還要求你們去研究其他國家研究了半天也沒有給我一個研究成果最後結論就是說我們要提供事實且必要之協助那是不是也可以喔兩個月內給我具體的事實且必要之協助的方法辦法好不好\n\n16\n00:05:37,939 --> 00:05:45,066\n您上任一年我現在才催我們已經盯了四年了我不知道你們暑夏寫東西都緩步那也不方便問次長這麼多問題已經問過很多問題了這兩個月給我們具體的措施鼓勵辦法好不好\n\n17\n00:05:51,992 --> 00:05:58,579\n最後一題也是我之前質詢的時候追的就是黃金計畫選手領選機制不公開不透明這是這麼重要的一個資源謝謝上次那個署長是您承諾要公開\n\n18\n00:06:09,195 --> 00:06:26,863\n你們給我的報告還說要三公開二增加保密利益然後增加任用條件強化表示你們看到問題有利益沒有迴避的問題要等等那你講公開你給我的報告說113年期要公開只要是任期結束就可以公開113年期請問署長是幾月幾日叫做113年期\n\n19\n00:06:30,901 --> 00:06:57,551\n一月一號開始一月一號嘛那你知不知道你們後來公開是什麼時候公開報告委員是昨天昨天為什麼我們立委你們給我們的承諾一月一號如果我們不盯的話那就變成昨天才公開報告委員這部分我的確有昨天有跟國訓中心來做查詢啦國訓中心的人員的確感到致歉那這部分他們接下來會跟誰致歉我都沒聽到\n\n20\n00:06:59,792 --> 00:07:13,302\n他要跟我們致見,跟所有關心體育致見,因為他自己承諾的事情都做不到,那你知不知道他為什麼昨天會公開?因為委員辦公室有提醒,所以我這下也...因為我辦公室不是提醒,我們一直催一直催一直催\n\n21\n00:07:14,503 --> 00:07:31,709\n到今天要專案報告昨天才公開大家看一下你們答應今年一月一號公開我們立委如果不去追的話這個答應的事情這是蒸發一樣你看這上網的公開名單從第一屆這多少年前到這個第六屆3月10號才上網你們承諾是一月一號對不對已經\n\n22\n00:07:35,851 --> 00:07:37,993\n幫委員這部分我會再協同新任的國訓中心主委那個執行長會好好在這部分來\n\n23\n00:07:53,770 --> 00:08:13,244\n蘇長我是對你期待很高因為我們這麼久沒有蘇長之前就因為都記得戴資穎那個他飛機的那個席次問題引發但是戴資穎有這麼多人支持他可是很多選手沒有辦法PO一個臉書文就得到這麼多的支持蘇長你上任只有一年這不是你任內的錯\n\n24\n00:08:14,625 --> 00:08:43,248\n拜託您今天承諾的事情務必完成好不好那我剛剛講你給我的報告說承諾要做到增加任用條件強化跨領域專業增加保密跟利益迴避的規範因為體育署下面的人讓我覺得很難信任那可不可以給我把這些你們的報告承諾白紙黑字鏈入你們競強會設計及運作要點好不好那什麼時候可以就是說修到裡面然後給我辦公室跟教務委員一個報告\n\n25\n00:08:43,908 --> 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