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00:01:04,767\n主委民眾對於電信網路的相關詐欺的案件一直深惡痛絕也造成民眾財產的相關的這些重大的損失我們來看NCC所提供相關的資料就是2023打詐的一些措施的成效當然攔阻有1850萬通的境外篡改的電話\n\n3\n00:01:08,889 --> 00:01:18,613\n也攔阻了大概800萬封惡意的簡訊那這些只是在過去交通委員會我們具體的要求對國際來話的這種語音警示之後啊國際的來話數啊減少了這種95%那\n\n4\n00:01:27,799 --> 00:01:34,727\n男主虛假的這種國際漫遊的電話也達到70%以上那採取我看NCC也有針對這種客戶確認就是KYC沒有落實KYC相關業者這個案件採取了20件\n\n5\n00:01:44,659 --> 00:02:01,367\n那也裁判了兩千多萬元那行政檢查39次那我們也看到呼斯科也有相關的這些統計的這些數據不過我們要提醒主委就是說我們針對這種電信網路的詐欺的他還是迅速的成長\n\n6\n00:02:02,787 --> 00:02:22,821\n當然這三年來我們來看地檢署的炸氣案件的統計都是快速的增加然後電信網路的炸氣案件的數量統計它也是增加的雖然去年2023年我們電信炸氣的這些連增率相對於2021到2022它是有31.8%的這種連增率2023雖然有下降到\n\n7\n00:02:30,689 --> 00:02:31,669\n報告委員關於這個電信還有網路詐欺的這個\n\n8\n00:03:00,538 --> 00:03:00,918\n委員會主任委員會主任\n\n9\n00:03:30,428 --> 00:03:31,870\n請電信業者就相關的這些所謂的\n\n10\n00:03:52,951 --> 00:03:54,933\n除了剛才提到KYC嘛就是客戶確認這個部分\n\n11\n00:04:14,945 --> 00:04:37,166\n這個部分我覺得是螺絲已經鬆動了我們看看近期海峽電信跟魔方移動他們都是屬於二類的電信事業成豬網路、電信的訊號提供給民眾服務看海峽電信他的這些所販售的號碼是中華電信所發配的\n\n12\n00:04:38,727 --> 00:04:58,357\n這一種海峽電信提供給7間的企業客戶8350個門號都沒有落實KYC那這個部分當然NCC有做相關的這個裁罰那魔方移動也是一樣那我們對於電信業者的KYC的這個責任\n\n13\n00:04:59,798 --> 00:05:20,904\n有沒有進一步的規範措施這個是要保障民眾權利一個很重要的關鍵我們根據電信管理法的授權我們去訂定這個電信失業用戶號碼使用管理辦法當然這個我們大概在這個月底以前會讓它實施這次之前來講我們已經跟電信業者包括MMO就是原來傳統一類電信業者\n\n14\n00:05:22,785 --> 00:05:47,944\n還有其他的這些所謂的原來的二類電信業者共同去努力把這些相關的KYCC要求它下降尤其是我們對於所謂MMO就是對於像中華電信、臺科大、遠傳這邊他們也都是要求他們極力去配合那他們也是很努力去處理現在比較麻煩的一個相關的議題是說除了我們本國的這個電話號碼以外還包括有一些來自於境外的像這些所謂的\n\n15\n00:05:49,044 --> 00:06:04,218\n黑莓卡或其他這個部分我們會繼續努力這個部分我們還是要加強相關的來電的辨識要落實KYC客戶確認我這邊要提醒主委我們相關的886、0-8的這個開頭現在是可以直接的攔阻\n\n16\n00:06:07,841 --> 00:06:07,921\n李昆澤\n\n17\n00:06:27,323 --> 00:06:32,732\n與外國的來電來進行辨識避免民眾受騙針對8869的這個電話的這相關有可能是詐騙也有可能是親友國際親友打來\n\n18\n00:06:38,967 --> 00:07:00,356\n來這個我們如何做進一步的處理這個基本在技術上來講的確8869有正常的化物存在不過的確透過我們這個警示以後來講的話這個詐騙的訊息有下降那這裡有一個很重要的觀點就是說那AI我們現在將來講話的部分來講很容易被AI這個所重置的這個部分來講我們會繼續努力去處理這個議題\n\n19\n00:07:04,198 --> 00:07:17,370\n我們要強化客戶確認KYC的電信業者的責任必須要加強行政的指導跟集合從外部督導各電信業者要求業者增強內部的控管機制\n\n20\n00:07:18,311 --> 00:07:45,956\n而要加強對於電信業者的相關的規範必須要要求業者針對所販售的對象事先的資格審查事後的定期檢查以及網路的零售要資訊接到來這個部分我們必須要有更進一步的作為我們這個都是在努力作為當中那我們對電信業者來講的話我們都會加強那行政指導而且對電信業者落實KYC我們也會不定期的去督導\n\n21\n00:07:46,576 --> 00:08:04,978\n那另外我們也請我們區處去查詢有些相關的這些比如在網路上販售的這個議題這些來源的這個所謂的電話卡到底是不是我們電信業者所發出的或者是說由從國外來這邊處理我們這個事前的點查事後的積查還有相關的這個定期或不定期的這些\n\n22\n00:08:06,039 --> 00:08:23,440\n網路的檢討這個必須要加強相關的作用最後的時間我請教一下我們在2018針對3G的相關的特定的執照以及相關的這個服務就號稱要終止了那到今年6月就要全面的關閉那全面的關閉那\n\n23\n00:08:25,262 --> 00:08:44,661\n就要改用Moti的相關的這種語音號稱是比較高音質的高品質的這種通訊那還是會有部分的用戶受到影響那我們看到這種Moti的這種手機的普及大概目前是94%其實還有6%的民眾手機還沒有辦法支援\n\n24\n00:08:49,065 --> 00:09:16,172\n那3G的用戶數啊全國的3G的網路用戶數啊大概還有74萬3921我們以偏鄉地區來說啦遠傳就評估他們偏鄉地區還有4192戶那相關的其他兩大電信業者有多少還有其他的這些長輩銀髮族所使用的這種3G的手機啊都會受到影響那因為3G基地台關閉啊\n\n25\n00:09:17,312 --> 00:09:17,532\n對規格也不太一樣\n\n26\n00:09:38,069 --> 00:09:40,529\n三G的落日相關措施我們還是要加強要督導電信業者提供合理優惠的方案來更換這些Voltaic的手機跟方案\n\n27\n00:10:06,354 --> 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