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\n三、3月12日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。）","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"立法院第11屆第1會期第4次會議","id":"院會-11-1-4","type":"院會","term":11,"sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":4},"date":"2024-03-12","duration":976,"end_time":"2024-03-12T09:16:49+08:00","start_time":"2024-03-12T09:00:33+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":18,"blocks":[["麥委員玉珍：（9時）謝謝院長。有請陳院長，還有內政部部長。"],["主席：麻煩請陳院長、內政部備詢。"],["陳院長建仁：麥委員，早安。祝你當選立法委員。"],["麥委員玉珍：謝謝院長。有幸成為臺灣的新住民立委，今天我要來找出問題、解決問題，還有關注新住民的議題。雖然院長說自己是看守內閣，但是關於新住民的議題，希望院長可以承諾改進。關於新住民權益的議題講很久了，但是這個部分都沒有進展。首先是行政院沒有一個統籌新住民事務的機關，導致這些事務落在各機構，比如辦理簽證要到外交部，還有辦理國籍、依親就到移民署，所以造成移民署的業務有很多負擔。我們要融入臺灣有文化的隔閡與語言的門檻，所以新住民常常求助無門，像是陸配跟外配都需要幫助，得區分外配要到哪個單位，陸配又在哪個單位，但目前沒有設一個統籌新住民業務的機構，這個部分要請院長來回應一下。"],["陳院長建仁：有關移民的事務，現在都是由多個部會共同配置人力來辦理，目前運作無礙，但是為了要整合跟協調相關部會，行政院設置了新住民事務協調會報來統籌這些相關業務。我要在這裡跟麥委員再次強調，我們很歡迎新住民來到臺灣，而且對臺灣有所貢獻，我們都相當感激。關於移民事務，我們會讓相關部會在剛才講的協調會報當中，做更好的協調，如果有需要再繼續精進的地方，我們也會請各部會來加強精進這些辦法。"],["麥委員玉珍：目前臺灣有將近60萬新住民，新二代大概五十幾萬，加上來這邊工作的外籍移工及專業人員有80萬人，還有來這邊的外僑生有10萬人左右，加總超過兩百多萬人，這樣的人數為臺灣帶來的不只是經濟的發展，還有教育及文化，所以行政院有沒有想過要設立一個部門，專門服務從國外來、默默為臺灣付出的這一群人？"],["陳院長建仁：我們就是因為很尊重而且很重視新住民在經濟、政治、文化跟教育上的貢獻，所以我剛才才講在行政院就有一個協調會報，協調會報是一個很慎重的事情，是各部會都在一起。世界各國並沒有所謂新住民相關的政府機關，也是把相關的業務讓內政部或者移民署以及經濟部一起合作，大部分的國家都這樣，而且沒有像行政院特別有這樣的協調會報。協調會報是一個要定期開會的組織，也是相當重要的。剛才我也跟委員報告過，因為所有移民相關業務現在都運行得還蠻順暢的，所以我們並沒有要成立一個特殊的機構，但是很多工作實際上內政部扮演很重要的角色，我是不是給部長一點時間……"],["麥委員玉珍：但我們還是希望可以成立一個委員會，目前行政院有陸委會，但卻沒有我們新住民的部會或委員會，所以我們希望行政院可以成立新住民委員會，然後再來統籌一起去服務。其實內政部有一個新住民發展基金，培訓了10年，建立一個人才資料庫，但這個人才資料庫已經發黴了，因為沒有一個平臺，也沒有一個部門可以讓我們去發揮，所以希望院長是不是可以答應我們新住民的需求，在近期內成立一個新住民委員會，俾以栽培人才、留住人才，讓人才得以發揮，為臺灣服務。"],["陳院長建仁：好，這個部分，我請內政部長先說明，然後我再補充說明委員會的部分。"],["麥委員玉珍：好，謝謝。請部長。"],["林部長右昌：謝謝委員的建議，委員剛剛特別提到好幾個部分，包括新住民、移工，還有學生部分。其實這幾個區塊所面臨的問題、需求都有點不太一樣，剛剛院長特別提到我們在行政院有一個協調會報，大概就是把過去包括新住民或移工等等這些朋友碰到的問題一個一個列出來，比如像過去大家提到最多的，就是到臺灣之後要辦居住、辦戶口，或者是要辦金融帳戶、金融卡或銀行帳戶等等，都碰到很多困難，也沒有那麼方便，不過現在透過行政院的這個會報，我們把這些問題都釐出來，一個一個串接在一起，所以這是一個部會協作的方式。另外，新住民的這個基金在我上任之後，我也跟同仁不斷溝通、討論新住民的這個基金要運用在哪些地方，希望把錢用在刀口上，這是我們現在正在做的努力。","委員剛剛提到人才培育的部分，這個目前也有很多委員特別提到，包括通譯人才或者其他人才的培育，未來我們會在這個基金的運用上，特別特別強調、強化這個部分，也謝謝委員的提醒。"],["麥委員玉珍：是，就像部長所說的，有不同的需求，所以需要不同的解決方式，問題是資源沒有整合，部門也沒有整合，就變成是多頭馬車，每個地方都有新住民的服務，但一個個案轉來轉去，轉到最後就是浪費人才，也浪費服務資源，所以我們希望行政院可以成立一個二級機構的新住民委員會，專門服務新住民，有需要哪個地方服務，我們就轉介到那個地方，這樣才是真正的服務，否則國外的人來到臺灣，不管是語言或部門都不懂，變成是求助無門，所以我們希望可以設立一個平臺，以整合資源，栽培人才。我覺得新住民不是要一直栽培，變成好像是專業學生，而是希望有一個部門、有一個平臺讓大家發揮，否則只是栽培人才、建立人才資料庫，人才也無處發揮，所以希望行政院可以成立一個新住民委員會，就像現在有原住民委員會、陸委會，希望也可以有一個新住民委員會，栽培大家、服務大家，這樣才能真正讓大家可以發揮。"],["陳院長建仁：委員的建議我瞭解，但是我要跟委員說明，實際上，我們現在二級機關的數目都已經滿了，但是新住民的事情很重要，不管是教育、勞動、衛福、文化等等，還有經濟、財政的部分都有，確實它是包含在各個部會裡面，所以我們才會有所謂的新住民事務協調會報。實際上跟委員報告，這個協調會報是各部會都要來，每一個部會對於新住民的相關業務都會在這個會報上討論，而且那是一個很好的溝通橋梁，為什麼呢？因為當新住民有教育上的問題，或者是有入籍問題等等的時候，就在那個會裡面，各部會的首長都在，你如果單……"],["麥委員玉珍：只是一個協調會報……"],["陳院長建仁：對，但是……"],["麥委員玉珍：剛才院長說已經滿了……"],["陳院長建仁：單獨的一個部會……"],["麥委員玉珍：部會已經滿了？"],["陳院長建仁：是。"],["麥委員玉珍：什麼叫做滿了？"],["陳院長建仁：就是……"],["麥委員玉珍：以前有沒有移民署？是因為很多新住民移工進來才有產生一個移民署來服務，所以沒有那麼多人需要服務就不會有移民署，怎麼會叫做滿呢？如果是滿的話，現在新住民生的小孩越來越多，就叫他們停止，不要再生了，已經滿了，是這樣嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：不是。"],["麥委員玉珍：因為人多了就是有人的需求，現在我們要的就是我們有需求，我們要來服務，因為要去整合資源以及給予機會，大家才能真正的落實服務，對不對？我們要有一個平臺，要互助共好嘛！"],["陳院長建仁：對。"],["麥委員玉珍：不能一直編列全部的預算來栽培，栽培人才但若沒有給予機會，怎麼留才呢？怎麼真正的為臺灣付出呢？"],["陳院長建仁：對。"],["麥委員玉珍：所以我們希望院長要成立一個新住民委員會，這個是整合資源，讓更多的人去發揮，你栽培人才花那麼多錢，但卻沒有一個平臺讓大家去發揮，因此我們希望有一個平臺、有一個部會能去服務新住民，也讓各個機構，以及外國人來到臺灣，可以有一個地方是真正的照顧到，讓全世界的人看到，只要來臺灣投資、移居臺灣，就是找這個部會就可以了，不用再求助無門、找很多的部會。","剛才你們有講嘛！各部會討論只是討論而已，結果是怎麼樣？誰來決定、誰來服務？所以我們希望行政院院長答應我們要成立一個新住民委員會，讓我們有一個新住民基本法，原住民族基本法也是最近幾年才成立的，如果有一個部門去服務的話，我們是政府的左右手，也能真正的解決問題。"],["陳院長建仁：委員，我想回答你兩個問題，第一個是二級機關已經滿了的部分，按照行政院的組織法，我們部會的數目到現在都已經是滿額的，除非我們要修行政院相關的組織法才能夠做，滿額的意思是這樣。第二個，在政務的推動上，會報聯繫的工作實際上比單一部會要來得好，舉一個例子，譬如原民會想要做什麼事情，這個事情如果由單獨部會做的時候，它需要去協調經濟部、內政部、教育部等等不同的部會，這個時候一個部會來進行反而不容易做，而需要有一個好的會報來一起進行。","這個就是我們剛才講的，如果各部會都在新住民的事務協調會報裡面來做的話，你剛才問我們做了一個決定以後，做完決定以後，教育部該好好培育人才、勞動部該好好地聘用這些人才、財政部應該怎麼做、經濟部怎麼做，我們就會要求各部會一起來做，而這個時候的這個決定比單一部會的決定更有力量，使得跨部會之間的協力能夠做起來。"],["麥委員玉珍：是沒錯，跨部會是要去協調，但是要有單一部會去執行，這個對嗎？就像原住民委員會也是跟大家協調，但它是單一部會去執行，是對的嘛！是不是？你的意思應該是這樣，所以我們現在要的應該是這樣啊！因此我們要協調各部會、資源整合，最後才是由誰做決定及執行。所以你講的也對啊！原住民也是跟大家結合，到最後就是原住民去執行嘛！我們希望有一個專門的部門、專門的一個部或一個會去協助處理，再橫向去跟各個部會協助，這樣才不會資源重疊，還有一個個案由很多部門去服務，所以我們看到的是這樣。謝謝院長，這個部分希望你答應我們，我們也共同來去努力，這裡是臺灣的民眾跟政府最好溝通的橋梁，所以我們是代表我們的民眾跟部院去要求、去請託、去協助。","第二個問題，因為時間有限，關於警察的權利，警察是不是人民保母？"],["陳院長建仁：是。"],["麥委員玉珍：對，所以人民保母去保護我們全國的人民，是不是要讓他們有地方住、還有睡好，這樣他才有精力去幫助大家、去保護我們的人民？但是目前為止全國有很多警察的住宿都沒有很好的地方讓大家住宿，所以希望重建或者改建的部分，這是現在很多個縣市的需求。新竹這邊他們有整理出來有很多是老舊的警察宿舍需要改進，但是沒有經費，這個部分是不是行政院這邊要編列預算給我們全國的警察有好的住宿，這樣子才能有好的品質，才能保護我們的人民，減少社會問題。"],["陳院長建仁：好，我們請內政部來……"],["主席：麥委員，因為時間的關係，建議能不能請內政部把相關的資料的資料用書面送給您參考，好嗎？因為時間已經到了，好不好？"],["麥委員玉珍：好。"],["主席：好，謝謝麥委員玉珍的質詢，也謝謝陳院長的備詢。","接下來我們請登記第2號范雲委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":184,"meet_id":"院會-11-1-4","speakers":["韓國瑜","麥玉珍","范雲","陳玉珍","謝龍介","吳沛憶","李彥秀","馬文君","李坤城","沈伯洋","張雅琳","吳宗憲","徐巧芯","陳永康","楊曜","陳俊宇","邱鎮軍","蘇清泉","劉建國","張嘉郡","陳超明","陳秀寳"],"page_start":99,"meetingDate":["2024-03-12"],"gazette_id":"1130601","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1130601_00004","1130601_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第1會期第4次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢─ 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00:01:59,953\n所以就像說陸配跟外配都需要幫助就是大家都分說外配要到哪個單位陸配又在哪個單位這樣所以目前就沒有設一個統籌就是新住民業務的機構\n\n6\n00:02:02,763 --> 00:02:29,171\n所以要請我們的院長來回應一下有關於移民的事務現在都是由多個部會共同來配置人力來辦理目前是運作無礙但是為了要整合跟協調相關的部會在行政院也設置了新住民事務的協調匯報來統籌相關的這些業務那我要在這裡跟麥委員再次的強調我們很歡迎新住民來到臺灣而且\n\n7\n00:02:29,531 --> 00:02:29,731\n﹚麥玉珍﹚\n\n8\n00:02:51,448 --> 00:03:15,846\n是,但是我們希望的就是說現在目前在我們臺灣就有將近就是60萬人新住民還有我們的新二代大概50幾萬加上就是說來這邊工作的外籍移工還有就是我們專業人員有80萬人還有就是來這邊就是外僑生就是有10萬人左右\n\n9\n00:03:16,386 --> 00:03:41,935\n所以這樣子的超過200多人這樣子的人數對臺灣的帶來的就不只是經濟的發展、交易還有就是文化所以這個部分我們是不是說行政院院長這邊有沒有想說要設立一個部門專門去服務就是從國外人的這一群人對默默為我們臺灣的付出。\n\n10\n00:03:43,456 --> 00:04:08,448\n我們就是因為很尊重而且很重視新住民在經濟、政治、文化跟教育上的貢獻所以我剛才才講到在行政院就有一個協調匯報協調匯報是一個很慎重的事情是各部會做在一起那和這個世界上各國並沒有所謂的新住民的相關的政府機關也是把相關的業務讓內政或者是讓移民署\n\n11\n00:04:09,448 --> 00:04:32,085\n以及經濟部來一起合作。大部分的國家都這樣,但是也沒有像我們行政院有特別有這樣的一個協調的匯報。協調匯報是一個定期開會的一個組織也是相當重要的。那我們目前因為剛才我跟委員有報告過因為所有的業務相關新移民相關的業務現在是運行的還蠻順暢。\n\n12\n00:04:35,527 --> 00:05:02,441\n所以我們並沒有要成立一個特殊的機構但是很多的工作實際上內政部扮演很重要的角色我是不是給部長一點時間對我們希望就是要有一個因為現在目前我們有陸委會但是我們沒有一個部門一個部會成為我們新住民的部會所以希望說我們的行政院長這邊可不可以說我們要成立一個就是新住民委員會\n\n13\n00:05:03,722 --> 00:05:29,321\n接下來就是我們要統籌一起來去服務我們內政部有的新住民發展基金培訓了10年我們一個就是說建立一個人才資料庫這人才資料庫已經發霉了因為沒有沒有一個平台也沒有一個部門讓我們去發揮所以我希望的說我們院長這邊是不是說在近期內\n\n14\n00:05:31,462 --> 00:05:54,572\n新住民的需求要有一個新住民委員會來成立讓大家栽培人才留住人才讓人才發揮為了台灣來去服務我想這一個部分我是請內政部長先說明一下我再來補充一下那個非常謝謝委員的建議你剛剛有特別提到好幾個部分包括新住民\n\n15\n00:05:55,330 --> 00:06:23,699\n還有包括移工還有包括學生其實這幾個區塊他們所面臨的問題還有這個需求都有一點不太一樣那剛剛院長有特別提到我們在這個行政院的一個協調會報裡面我們大概把過去所這個新住民或者說包括移工等等這些朋友他們碰到的問題我們大概一個一個把它這個列出來比如說像過去大家提到最多\n\n16\n00:06:24,315 --> 00:06:24,755\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n17\n00:06:48,707 --> 00:07:12,142\n這個我們新住民的這個基金我上任之後我也是跟同仁不斷的在溝通就是說新住民的這個基金我們要運用在哪些地方把錢用在刀口上我們現在正在做這樣的努力那委員剛剛提到說人才的一個培育那目前有很多委員特別提到包括同意的人才或者其他的一個人才培育我們未來會在這一個\n\n18\n00:07:13,359 --> 00:07:30,568\n基金的一個運用上面特別特別強調強化這個部分有些委員的一個提醒是所以你們都有說嘛就是不同的需求就是不同的解決但是問題就是資源就是沒有整合\n\n19\n00:07:47,897 --> 00:08:02,636\n新住民委員會二級機構就是要專門來去服務有需要哪一個地方我們就是轉接到才像說一個真正的服務變成國外來到臺灣不管是議員或者部門\n\n20\n00:08:03,277 --> 00:08:03,317\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n21\n00:08:23,473 --> 00:08:26,435\n委員你的建議我有了解但是我要跟委員來做一個說明\n\n22\n00:08:53,659 --> 00:09:12,791\n實際上我們現在的二級機關的數目都已經滿了但是新住民的事情很重要不管是教育、勞動、衛福、文化等等還有經濟還有財政的部分都有那確實它是各個部會都包含在裡面所以我們才會有所謂的新住民事務協調\n\n23\n00:09:14,261 --> 00:09:14,461\n媒體臨時提案\n\n24\n00:09:44,381 --> 00:09:59,587\n以前有沒有那個移民署是因為很多新住民移工進來才有產生一個移民署來去服務所以沒有那麼多人需要服務就不會有移民署怎麼會叫做滿呢如果是說滿的話現在\n\n25\n00:10:01,428 --> 00:10:18,414\n新住民生了小孩越來越多就叫停止不要再生了已經滿了是這樣嗎?因為人多了我們就是人的需求我們現在就是我們要的就是說我們有需求我們要來去服務因為我們要去整合資源\n\n26\n00:10:19,054 --> 00:10:44,967\n還有給予機會大家才能會去真正的是落實的服務對不對我們要有一個平台要互助共好嘛對不能說一直說編列一種全部的預算來栽培栽培人才但是沒有給予機會怎麼留才呢怎麼真正的去為台灣付出呢所以我們希望說我們的院長要來成立一個新住民委員會這個是\n\n27\n00:10:46,648 --> 00:11:08,267\n整合資源讓更多的人去發揮也更多的是說你栽培人才花那麼多錢但是沒有一個平台讓大家去發揮所以我們希望的是說有一個平台有一個部會來去讓新住民去服務也讓各個機構還有外國人來到台灣\n\n28\n00:11:08,928 --> 00:11:37,320\n可以有一個地方真的是照顧到讓全世界人看到說我們只要來臺灣投資我們移居臺灣我們就是找這個部會就可以了不用說再求助我們再找很多的部會剛才你們有講嘛各部會討論只是討論而已結果是怎麼樣誰來決定誰來服務所以我們希望就是說行政院這邊院長答應我們說\n\n29\n00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:38,220\n好﹖\n\n30\n00:11:58,291 --> 00:12:18,136\n委員我想回答你兩個問題第一個就是說二級機關已經滿了就是說按照行政院的組織法裡面我們的部會的數目到現在都已經是滿了除非我們要修行政院相關的這個組織法才能夠做這個是滿合的意思是這樣那第二個呢在政務的推動上匯報的\n\n31\n00:12:20,297 --> 00:12:20,477\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n32\n00:12:43,985 --> 00:12:44,105\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n33\n00:13:07,254 --> 00:13:32,347\n財政部呢應該怎麼做經濟部怎麼做我們就會要求各部會一起來做而這個時候這個決定比單一部會的決定更有力量使得跨部會之間的協力能夠做起來是沒錯,跨部會是要去協調但是有要單一部會來去執行這個是對嗎對不對就像我們原住民委員會他也是跟大家協調但是他是當一個部會來去執行\n\n34\n00:13:34,068 --> 00:13:58,456\n是對的嘛是不是你的意思是說是應該是這樣所以我們現在要的是應該是這樣啊所以就是說我們要協調各部會資源整合在最後就是誰來去決定來去執行所以你講也是對啊你的原住民也是跟大家結合到最後就是原住民來去執行嘛所以我們就是希望就是有一個專門的部門專門的一個\n\n35\n00:14:01,877 --> 00:14:01,917\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n36\n00:14:29,295 --> 00:14:29,435\n還有第二個問題﹖\n\n37\n00:14:43,271 --> 00:15:12,108\n因為時間有限就有問題說關於就是警察的權利因為警察是不是人民保姆是對所以人民保姆去保護我們全國的人民是不是要讓他們就是有地方就是住還有睡好這樣他還有精力去幫助大家去保護我們的人民但是目前為止全國有很多就是我們的警察的住宿的話\n\n38\n00:15:17,284 --> 00:15:44,140\n很好的地方讓大家住宿所以希望說這個是重建或者改建這個部分現在我們就是以那個有很多個縣市的需求所以我們就是新竹這邊他們有整理出來說有很多就是老舊的警察的住宿所以需要改進但是呢就沒有經費這個部分是不是說我們行政院這邊\n\n39\n00:15:57,566 --> 00:16:15,564\n麥委員建議好不好因為時間的關係能不能請內政部把相關的資料用書面送給您參考好嗎因為時間已經到了好不好好謝謝麥委員玉珍的質詢也謝謝陳院長的備詢謝謝接下來我們請登記第二號范雲委員質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n21096\t28143\t謝謝院長有請陳院長還有內政部部長歡迎陳院長內政部備詢報言員早安祝你當選立法委員\n39047\t64824\t謝謝,謝謝院長。有幸成為臺灣新住民在臺灣的新住民的立委。今天我們是要來找出問題解決問題還有關於新住民的議題。所以雖然是院長說自己是看守內閣但是關於新住民的議題希望我們院長可以就是承諾改進關於新住民的權益議題\n66265\t88098\t講很久了但是都沒有進展這個部分首先就是行政院沒有一個統籌新住民的事務所以就導致說落在各機構就像譬如說簽證就是要到外交部還有就是國籍、一親就叫移民署\n89159\t103607\t所以呢就造成就是移民署的很多的負擔所以我們就是要融入臺灣呢我們要就是文化還有語言的隔閡的門檻所以常常就是新住民就求助無門\n104467\t119953\t所以就像說陸配跟外配都需要幫助就是大家都分說外配要到哪個單位陸配又在哪個單位這樣所以目前就沒有設一個統籌就是新住民業務的機構\n122763\t149171\t所以要請我們的院長來回應一下有關於移民的事務現在都是由多個部會共同來配置人力來辦理目前是運作無礙但是為了要整合跟協調相關的部會在行政院也設置了新住民事務的協調匯報來統籌相關的這些業務那我要在這裡跟麥委員再次的強調我們很歡迎新住民來到臺灣而且\n149531\t149731\t﹚麥玉珍﹚\n171448\t195846\t是,但是我們希望的就是說現在目前在我們臺灣就有將近就是60萬人新住民還有我們的新二代大概50幾萬加上就是說來這邊工作的外籍移工還有就是我們專業人員有80萬人還有就是來這邊就是外僑生就是有10萬人左右\n196386\t221935\t所以這樣子的超過200多人這樣子的人數對臺灣的帶來的就不只是經濟的發展、交易還有就是文化所以這個部分我們是不是說行政院院長這邊有沒有想說要設立一個部門專門去服務就是從國外人的這一群人對默默為我們臺灣的付出。\n223456\t248448\t我們就是因為很尊重而且很重視新住民在經濟、政治、文化跟教育上的貢獻所以我剛才才講到在行政院就有一個協調匯報協調匯報是一個很慎重的事情是各部會做在一起那和這個世界上各國並沒有所謂的新住民的相關的政府機關也是把相關的業務讓內政或者是讓移民署\n249448\t272085\t以及經濟部來一起合作。 大部分的國家都這樣,但是也沒有像我們行政院有特別有這樣的一個協調的匯報。 協調匯報是一個定期開會的一個組織也是相當重要的。 那我們目前因為剛才我跟委員有報告過因為所有的業務相關新移民相關的業務現在是運行的還蠻順暢。\n275527\t302441\t所以我們並沒有要成立一個特殊的機構但是很多的工作實際上內政部扮演很重要的角色我是不是給部長一點時間對我們希望就是要有一個因為現在目前我們有陸委會但是我們沒有一個部門一個部會成為我們新住民的部會所以希望說我們的行政院長這邊可不可以說我們要成立一個就是新住民委員會\n303722\t329321\t接下來就是我們要統籌一起來去服務我們內政部有的新住民發展基金培訓了10年我們一個就是說建立一個人才資料庫這人才資料庫已經發霉了因為沒有沒有一個平台也沒有一個部門讓我們去發揮所以我希望的說我們院長這邊是不是說在近期內\n331462\t354572\t新住民的需求要有一個新住民委員會來成立讓大家栽培人才留住人才讓人才發揮為了台灣來去服務我想這一個部分我是請內政部長先說明一下我再來補充一下那個非常謝謝委員的建議你剛剛有特別提到好幾個部分包括新住民\n355330\t383699\t還有包括移工還有包括學生其實這幾個區塊他們所面臨的問題還有這個需求都有一點不太一樣那剛剛院長有特別提到我們在這個行政院的一個協調會報裡面我們大概把過去所這個新住民或者說包括移工等等這些朋友他們碰到的問題我們大概一個一個把它這個列出來比如說像過去大家提到最多\n384315\t384755\t﹚麥玉珍\n408707\t432142\t這個我們新住民的這個基金我上任之後我也是跟同仁不斷的在溝通就是說新住民的這個基金我們要運用在哪些地方把錢用在刀口上我們現在正在做這樣的努力那委員剛剛提到說人才的一個培育那目前有很多委員特別提到包括同意的人才或者其他的一個人才培育我們未來會在這一個\n433359\t450568\t基金的一個運用上面特別特別強調強化這個部分有些委員的一個提醒是所以你們都有說嘛就是不同的需求就是不同的解決但是問題就是資源就是沒有整合\n451817\t467637\t﹗\n467897\t482636\t新住民委員會二級機構就是要專門來去服務有需要哪一個地方我們就是轉接到才像說一個真正的服務變成國外來到臺灣不管是議員或者部門\n483277\t483317\t﹚麥玉珍\n503473\t506435\t委員你的建議我有了解但是我要跟委員來做一個說明\n533659\t552791\t實際上我們現在的二級機關的數目都已經滿了但是新住民的事情很重要不管是教育、勞動、衛福、文化等等還有經濟還有財政的部分都有那確實它是各個部會都包含在裡面所以我們才會有所謂的新住民事務協調\n554261\t554461\t媒體臨時提案\n584381\t599587\t以前有沒有那個移民署是因為很多新住民移工進來才有產生一個移民署來去服務所以沒有那麼多人需要服務就不會有移民署怎麼會叫做滿呢如果是說滿的話現在\n601428\t618414\t新住民生了小孩越來越多就叫停止不要再生了已經滿了是這樣嗎?因為人多了我們就是人的需求我們現在就是我們要的就是說我們有需求我們要來去服務因為我們要去整合資源\n619054\t644967\t還有給予機會大家才能會去真正的是落實的服務對不對我們要有一個平台要互助共好嘛對不能說一直說編列一種全部的預算來栽培栽培人才但是沒有給予機會怎麼留才呢怎麼真正的去為台灣付出呢所以我們希望說我們的院長要來成立一個新住民委員會這個是\n646648\t668267\t整合資源讓更多的人去發揮也更多的是說你栽培人才花那麼多錢但是沒有一個平台讓大家去發揮所以我們希望的是說有一個平台有一個部會來去讓新住民去服務也讓各個機構還有外國人來到台灣\n668928\t697320\t可以有一個地方真的是照顧到讓全世界人看到說我們只要來臺灣投資我們移居臺灣我們就是找這個部會就可以了不用說再求助我們再找很多的部會剛才你們有講嘛各部會討論只是討論而已結果是怎麼樣誰來決定誰來服務所以我們希望就是說行政院這邊院長答應我們說\n698200\t698220\t好﹖\n718291\t738136\t委員我想回答你兩個問題第一個就是說二級機關已經滿了就是說按照行政院的組織法裡面我們的部會的數目到現在都已經是滿了除非我們要修行政院相關的這個組織法才能夠做這個是滿合的意思是這樣那第二個呢在政務的推動上匯報的\n740297\t740477\t﹚麥玉珍\n763985\t764105\t﹚麥玉珍\n787254\t812347\t財政部呢應該怎麼做經濟部怎麼做我們就會要求各部會一起來做而這個時候這個決定比單一部會的決定更有力量使得跨部會之間的協力能夠做起來是沒錯,跨部會是要去協調但是有要單一部會來去執行這個是對嗎對不對就像我們原住民委員會他也是跟大家協調但是他是當一個部會來去執行\n814068\t838456\t是對的嘛是不是你的意思是說是應該是這樣所以我們現在要的是應該是這樣啊所以就是說我們要協調各部會資源整合在最後就是誰來去決定來去執行所以你講也是對啊你的原住民也是跟大家結合到最後就是原住民來去執行嘛所以我們就是希望就是有一個專門的部門專門的一個\n841877\t841917\t﹚麥玉珍\n869295\t869435\t還有第二個問題﹖\n883271\t912108\t因為時間有限就有問題說關於就是警察的權利因為警察是不是人民保姆是對所以人民保姆去保護我們全國的人民是不是要讓他們就是有地方就是住還有睡好這樣他還有精力去幫助大家去保護我們的人民但是目前為止全國有很多就是我們的警察的住宿的話\n912568\t916852\t﹏﹏\n917284\t944140\t很好的地方讓大家住宿所以希望說這個是重建或者改建這個部分現在我們就是以那個有很多個縣市的需求所以我們就是新竹這邊他們有整理出來說有很多就是老舊的警察的住宿所以需要改進但是呢就沒有經費這個部分是不是說我們行政院這邊\n957566\t975564\t麥委員建議好不好因為時間的關係能不能請內政部把相關的資料用書面送給您參考好嗎因為時間已經到了好不好好謝謝麥委員玉珍的質詢也謝謝陳院長的備詢謝謝接下來我們請登記第二號范雲委員質詢\n","txt":"謝謝院長有請陳院長還有內政部部長歡迎陳院長內政部備詢報言員早安祝你當選立法委員\n謝謝,謝謝院長。有幸成為臺灣新住民在臺灣的新住民的立委。今天我們是要來找出問題解決問題還有關於新住民的議題。所以雖然是院長說自己是看守內閣但是關於新住民的議題希望我們院長可以就是承諾改進關於新住民的權益議題\n講很久了但是都沒有進展這個部分首先就是行政院沒有一個統籌新住民的事務所以就導致說落在各機構就像譬如說簽證就是要到外交部還有就是國籍、一親就叫移民署\n所以呢就造成就是移民署的很多的負擔所以我們就是要融入臺灣呢我們要就是文化還有語言的隔閡的門檻所以常常就是新住民就求助無門\n所以就像說陸配跟外配都需要幫助就是大家都分說外配要到哪個單位陸配又在哪個單位這樣所以目前就沒有設一個統籌就是新住民業務的機構\n所以要請我們的院長來回應一下有關於移民的事務現在都是由多個部會共同來配置人力來辦理目前是運作無礙但是為了要整合跟協調相關的部會在行政院也設置了新住民事務的協調匯報來統籌相關的這些業務那我要在這裡跟麥委員再次的強調我們很歡迎新住民來到臺灣而且\n﹚麥玉珍﹚\n是,但是我們希望的就是說現在目前在我們臺灣就有將近就是60萬人新住民還有我們的新二代大概50幾萬加上就是說來這邊工作的外籍移工還有就是我們專業人員有80萬人還有就是來這邊就是外僑生就是有10萬人左右\n所以這樣子的超過200多人這樣子的人數對臺灣的帶來的就不只是經濟的發展、交易還有就是文化所以這個部分我們是不是說行政院院長這邊有沒有想說要設立一個部門專門去服務就是從國外人的這一群人對默默為我們臺灣的付出。\n我們就是因為很尊重而且很重視新住民在經濟、政治、文化跟教育上的貢獻所以我剛才才講到在行政院就有一個協調匯報協調匯報是一個很慎重的事情是各部會做在一起那和這個世界上各國並沒有所謂的新住民的相關的政府機關也是把相關的業務讓內政或者是讓移民署\n以及經濟部來一起合作。 大部分的國家都這樣,但是也沒有像我們行政院有特別有這樣的一個協調的匯報。 協調匯報是一個定期開會的一個組織也是相當重要的。 那我們目前因為剛才我跟委員有報告過因為所有的業務相關新移民相關的業務現在是運行的還蠻順暢。\n所以我們並沒有要成立一個特殊的機構但是很多的工作實際上內政部扮演很重要的角色我是不是給部長一點時間對我們希望就是要有一個因為現在目前我們有陸委會但是我們沒有一個部門一個部會成為我們新住民的部會所以希望說我們的行政院長這邊可不可以說我們要成立一個就是新住民委員會\n接下來就是我們要統籌一起來去服務我們內政部有的新住民發展基金培訓了10年我們一個就是說建立一個人才資料庫這人才資料庫已經發霉了因為沒有沒有一個平台也沒有一個部門讓我們去發揮所以我希望的說我們院長這邊是不是說在近期內\n新住民的需求要有一個新住民委員會來成立讓大家栽培人才留住人才讓人才發揮為了台灣來去服務我想這一個部分我是請內政部長先說明一下我再來補充一下那個非常謝謝委員的建議你剛剛有特別提到好幾個部分包括新住民\n還有包括移工還有包括學生其實這幾個區塊他們所面臨的問題還有這個需求都有一點不太一樣那剛剛院長有特別提到我們在這個行政院的一個協調會報裡面我們大概把過去所這個新住民或者說包括移工等等這些朋友他們碰到的問題我們大概一個一個把它這個列出來比如說像過去大家提到最多\n﹚麥玉珍\n這個我們新住民的這個基金我上任之後我也是跟同仁不斷的在溝通就是說新住民的這個基金我們要運用在哪些地方把錢用在刀口上我們現在正在做這樣的努力那委員剛剛提到說人才的一個培育那目前有很多委員特別提到包括同意的人才或者其他的一個人才培育我們未來會在這一個\n基金的一個運用上面特別特別強調強化這個部分有些委員的一個提醒是所以你們都有說嘛就是不同的需求就是不同的解決但是問題就是資源就是沒有整合\n﹗\n新住民委員會二級機構就是要專門來去服務有需要哪一個地方我們就是轉接到才像說一個真正的服務變成國外來到臺灣不管是議員或者部門\n﹚麥玉珍\n委員你的建議我有了解但是我要跟委員來做一個說明\n實際上我們現在的二級機關的數目都已經滿了但是新住民的事情很重要不管是教育、勞動、衛福、文化等等還有經濟還有財政的部分都有那確實它是各個部會都包含在裡面所以我們才會有所謂的新住民事務協調\n媒體臨時提案\n以前有沒有那個移民署是因為很多新住民移工進來才有產生一個移民署來去服務所以沒有那麼多人需要服務就不會有移民署怎麼會叫做滿呢如果是說滿的話現在\n新住民生了小孩越來越多就叫停止不要再生了已經滿了是這樣嗎?因為人多了我們就是人的需求我們現在就是我們要的就是說我們有需求我們要來去服務因為我們要去整合資源\n還有給予機會大家才能會去真正的是落實的服務對不對我們要有一個平台要互助共好嘛對不能說一直說編列一種全部的預算來栽培栽培人才但是沒有給予機會怎麼留才呢怎麼真正的去為台灣付出呢所以我們希望說我們的院長要來成立一個新住民委員會這個是\n整合資源讓更多的人去發揮也更多的是說你栽培人才花那麼多錢但是沒有一個平台讓大家去發揮所以我們希望的是說有一個平台有一個部會來去讓新住民去服務也讓各個機構還有外國人來到台灣\n可以有一個地方真的是照顧到讓全世界人看到說我們只要來臺灣投資我們移居臺灣我們就是找這個部會就可以了不用說再求助我們再找很多的部會剛才你們有講嘛各部會討論只是討論而已結果是怎麼樣誰來決定誰來服務所以我們希望就是說行政院這邊院長答應我們說\n好﹖\n委員我想回答你兩個問題第一個就是說二級機關已經滿了就是說按照行政院的組織法裡面我們的部會的數目到現在都已經是滿了除非我們要修行政院相關的這個組織法才能夠做這個是滿合的意思是這樣那第二個呢在政務的推動上匯報的\n﹚麥玉珍\n﹚麥玉珍\n財政部呢應該怎麼做經濟部怎麼做我們就會要求各部會一起來做而這個時候這個決定比單一部會的決定更有力量使得跨部會之間的協力能夠做起來是沒錯,跨部會是要去協調但是有要單一部會來去執行這個是對嗎對不對就像我們原住民委員會他也是跟大家協調但是他是當一個部會來去執行\n是對的嘛是不是你的意思是說是應該是這樣所以我們現在要的是應該是這樣啊所以就是說我們要協調各部會資源整合在最後就是誰來去決定來去執行所以你講也是對啊你的原住民也是跟大家結合到最後就是原住民來去執行嘛所以我們就是希望就是有一個專門的部門專門的一個\n﹚麥玉珍\n還有第二個問題﹖\n因為時間有限就有問題說關於就是警察的權利因為警察是不是人民保姆是對所以人民保姆去保護我們全國的人民是不是要讓他們就是有地方就是住還有睡好這樣他還有精力去幫助大家去保護我們的人民但是目前為止全國有很多就是我們的警察的住宿的話\n﹏﹏\n很好的地方讓大家住宿所以希望說這個是重建或者改建這個部分現在我們就是以那個有很多個縣市的需求所以我們就是新竹這邊他們有整理出來說有很多就是老舊的警察的住宿所以需要改進但是呢就沒有經費這個部分是不是說我們行政院這邊\n麥委員建議好不好因為時間的關係能不能請內政部把相關的資料用書面送給您參考好嗎因為時間已經到了好不好好謝謝麥委員玉珍的質詢也謝謝陳院長的備詢謝謝接下來我們請登記第二號范雲委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:21.096 --> 00:28.143\n謝謝院長有請陳院長還有內政部部長歡迎陳院長內政部備詢報言員早安祝你當選立法委員\n\n00:39.047 --> 01:04.824\n謝謝,謝謝院長。有幸成為臺灣新住民在臺灣的新住民的立委。今天我們是要來找出問題解決問題還有關於新住民的議題。所以雖然是院長說自己是看守內閣但是關於新住民的議題希望我們院長可以就是承諾改進關於新住民的權益議題\n\n01:06.265 --> 01:28.098\n講很久了但是都沒有進展這個部分首先就是行政院沒有一個統籌新住民的事務所以就導致說落在各機構就像譬如說簽證就是要到外交部還有就是國籍、一親就叫移民署\n\n01:29.159 --> 01:43.607\n所以呢就造成就是移民署的很多的負擔所以我們就是要融入臺灣呢我們要就是文化還有語言的隔閡的門檻所以常常就是新住民就求助無門\n\n01:44.467 --> 01:59.953\n所以就像說陸配跟外配都需要幫助就是大家都分說外配要到哪個單位陸配又在哪個單位這樣所以目前就沒有設一個統籌就是新住民業務的機構\n\n02:02.763 --> 02:29.171\n所以要請我們的院長來回應一下有關於移民的事務現在都是由多個部會共同來配置人力來辦理目前是運作無礙但是為了要整合跟協調相關的部會在行政院也設置了新住民事務的協調匯報來統籌相關的這些業務那我要在這裡跟麥委員再次的強調我們很歡迎新住民來到臺灣而且\n\n02:29.531 --> 02:29.731\n﹚麥玉珍﹚\n\n02:51.448 --> 03:15.846\n是,但是我們希望的就是說現在目前在我們臺灣就有將近就是60萬人新住民還有我們的新二代大概50幾萬加上就是說來這邊工作的外籍移工還有就是我們專業人員有80萬人還有就是來這邊就是外僑生就是有10萬人左右\n\n03:16.386 --> 03:41.935\n所以這樣子的超過200多人這樣子的人數對臺灣的帶來的就不只是經濟的發展、交易還有就是文化所以這個部分我們是不是說行政院院長這邊有沒有想說要設立一個部門專門去服務就是從國外人的這一群人對默默為我們臺灣的付出。\n\n03:43.456 --> 04:08.448\n我們就是因為很尊重而且很重視新住民在經濟、政治、文化跟教育上的貢獻所以我剛才才講到在行政院就有一個協調匯報協調匯報是一個很慎重的事情是各部會做在一起那和這個世界上各國並沒有所謂的新住民的相關的政府機關也是把相關的業務讓內政或者是讓移民署\n\n04:09.448 --> 04:32.085\n以及經濟部來一起合作。大部分的國家都這樣,但是也沒有像我們行政院有特別有這樣的一個協調的匯報。協調匯報是一個定期開會的一個組織也是相當重要的。那我們目前因為剛才我跟委員有報告過因為所有的業務相關新移民相關的業務現在是運行的還蠻順暢。\n\n04:35.527 --> 05:02.441\n所以我們並沒有要成立一個特殊的機構但是很多的工作實際上內政部扮演很重要的角色我是不是給部長一點時間對我們希望就是要有一個因為現在目前我們有陸委會但是我們沒有一個部門一個部會成為我們新住民的部會所以希望說我們的行政院長這邊可不可以說我們要成立一個就是新住民委員會\n\n05:03.722 --> 05:29.321\n接下來就是我們要統籌一起來去服務我們內政部有的新住民發展基金培訓了10年我們一個就是說建立一個人才資料庫這人才資料庫已經發霉了因為沒有沒有一個平台也沒有一個部門讓我們去發揮所以我希望的說我們院長這邊是不是說在近期內\n\n05:31.462 --> 05:54.572\n新住民的需求要有一個新住民委員會來成立讓大家栽培人才留住人才讓人才發揮為了台灣來去服務我想這一個部分我是請內政部長先說明一下我再來補充一下那個非常謝謝委員的建議你剛剛有特別提到好幾個部分包括新住民\n\n05:55.330 --> 06:23.699\n還有包括移工還有包括學生其實這幾個區塊他們所面臨的問題還有這個需求都有一點不太一樣那剛剛院長有特別提到我們在這個行政院的一個協調會報裡面我們大概把過去所這個新住民或者說包括移工等等這些朋友他們碰到的問題我們大概一個一個把它這個列出來比如說像過去大家提到最多\n\n06:24.315 --> 06:24.755\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n06:48.707 --> 07:12.142\n這個我們新住民的這個基金我上任之後我也是跟同仁不斷的在溝通就是說新住民的這個基金我們要運用在哪些地方把錢用在刀口上我們現在正在做這樣的努力那委員剛剛提到說人才的一個培育那目前有很多委員特別提到包括同意的人才或者其他的一個人才培育我們未來會在這一個\n\n07:13.359 --> 07:30.568\n基金的一個運用上面特別特別強調強化這個部分有些委員的一個提醒是所以你們都有說嘛就是不同的需求就是不同的解決但是問題就是資源就是沒有整合\n\n07:47.897 --> 08:02.636\n新住民委員會二級機構就是要專門來去服務有需要哪一個地方我們就是轉接到才像說一個真正的服務變成國外來到臺灣不管是議員或者部門\n\n08:03.277 --> 08:03.317\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n08:23.473 --> 08:26.435\n委員你的建議我有了解但是我要跟委員來做一個說明\n\n08:53.659 --> 09:12.791\n實際上我們現在的二級機關的數目都已經滿了但是新住民的事情很重要不管是教育、勞動、衛福、文化等等還有經濟還有財政的部分都有那確實它是各個部會都包含在裡面所以我們才會有所謂的新住民事務協調\n\n09:14.261 --> 09:14.461\n媒體臨時提案\n\n09:44.381 --> 09:59.587\n以前有沒有那個移民署是因為很多新住民移工進來才有產生一個移民署來去服務所以沒有那麼多人需要服務就不會有移民署怎麼會叫做滿呢如果是說滿的話現在\n\n10:01.428 --> 10:18.414\n新住民生了小孩越來越多就叫停止不要再生了已經滿了是這樣嗎?因為人多了我們就是人的需求我們現在就是我們要的就是說我們有需求我們要來去服務因為我們要去整合資源\n\n10:19.054 --> 10:44.967\n還有給予機會大家才能會去真正的是落實的服務對不對我們要有一個平台要互助共好嘛對不能說一直說編列一種全部的預算來栽培栽培人才但是沒有給予機會怎麼留才呢怎麼真正的去為台灣付出呢所以我們希望說我們的院長要來成立一個新住民委員會這個是\n\n10:46.648 --> 11:08.267\n整合資源讓更多的人去發揮也更多的是說你栽培人才花那麼多錢但是沒有一個平台讓大家去發揮所以我們希望的是說有一個平台有一個部會來去讓新住民去服務也讓各個機構還有外國人來到台灣\n\n11:08.928 --> 11:37.320\n可以有一個地方真的是照顧到讓全世界人看到說我們只要來臺灣投資我們移居臺灣我們就是找這個部會就可以了不用說再求助我們再找很多的部會剛才你們有講嘛各部會討論只是討論而已結果是怎麼樣誰來決定誰來服務所以我們希望就是說行政院這邊院長答應我們說\n\n11:38.200 --> 11:38.220\n好﹖\n\n11:58.291 --> 12:18.136\n委員我想回答你兩個問題第一個就是說二級機關已經滿了就是說按照行政院的組織法裡面我們的部會的數目到現在都已經是滿了除非我們要修行政院相關的這個組織法才能夠做這個是滿合的意思是這樣那第二個呢在政務的推動上匯報的\n\n12:20.297 --> 12:20.477\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n12:43.985 --> 12:44.105\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n13:07.254 --> 13:32.347\n財政部呢應該怎麼做經濟部怎麼做我們就會要求各部會一起來做而這個時候這個決定比單一部會的決定更有力量使得跨部會之間的協力能夠做起來是沒錯,跨部會是要去協調但是有要單一部會來去執行這個是對嗎對不對就像我們原住民委員會他也是跟大家協調但是他是當一個部會來去執行\n\n13:34.068 --> 13:58.456\n是對的嘛是不是你的意思是說是應該是這樣所以我們現在要的是應該是這樣啊所以就是說我們要協調各部會資源整合在最後就是誰來去決定來去執行所以你講也是對啊你的原住民也是跟大家結合到最後就是原住民來去執行嘛所以我們就是希望就是有一個專門的部門專門的一個\n\n14:01.877 --> 14:01.917\n﹚麥玉珍\n\n14:29.295 --> 14:29.435\n還有第二個問題﹖\n\n14:43.271 --> 15:12.108\n因為時間有限就有問題說關於就是警察的權利因為警察是不是人民保姆是對所以人民保姆去保護我們全國的人民是不是要讓他們就是有地方就是住還有睡好這樣他還有精力去幫助大家去保護我們的人民但是目前為止全國有很多就是我們的警察的住宿的話\n\n15:17.284 --> 15:44.140\n很好的地方讓大家住宿所以希望說這個是重建或者改建這個部分現在我們就是以那個有很多個縣市的需求所以我們就是新竹這邊他們有整理出來說有很多就是老舊的警察的住宿所以需要改進但是呢就沒有經費這個部分是不是說我們行政院這邊\n\n15:57.566 --> 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