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00:03:59,456\n自的退俯儲金投資選擇實施辦法這是你們自己制定的實施辦法裡面的第二條的第二款上面有說這個我們應該要訂定自主投資及代為投資運用的實施計畫請問實施計畫制定了沒有\n\n11\n00:04:02,646 --> 00:04:23,679\n目前在研擬那我們會提到監理會這個你制定出來之後你還要報公務人員退府儲金監理會還要報他審議通過才可以實施實施之後他還必須要有一些宣導的時期所以你到目前為止制定完成了沒有\n\n12\n00:04:25,381 --> 00:04:42,837\n還沒這個實施計畫還要什麼時候要完成這法定的啊這不是法定這你們自己你們自己制定的也是大概年中的時候啦配合那一個年中中間的中就是配合我們年中的測試配合這個測試之前你有沒有給一個具體的時間我們總是定個目標\n\n13\n00:04:48,342 --> 00:05:01,077\n我想7月7月之前應該可以完成7月之前完成完成是你們出爐還是送審議委還是送那個監理會通過監理會通過在7月之前通過對好這個部分齁\n\n14\n00:05:04,482 --> 00:05:19,849\n我想這個在下半年測試之前我是覺得這是你們自己制定的啦制定要做這個實施計畫而且要報這個退府除金的監理會要報這個監理會來審議啦所以這個部分我希望說你們能夠掌握時間是\n\n15\n00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:40,653\n再來就是這個其實對這些初任公務人員來講這個是一個新的制度而且這個制度他需要很多的這個宣導的過程包括未來你們也提到說每年至少要一次投資組合投資標的組合的轉換作業這些轉換作業到底要怎麼做\n\n16\n00:05:41,554 --> 00:06:06,227\n這些都需要很多的宣導啦但是我看到你們目前的宣導作為其實真的是有點弱啦齁這個我看到的就是你們在網站上面有這個退府局的網站上面有一個宣導有兩支宣導短片兩支宣導短片他的我看點閱率大概1000人左右但是他訂閱人是6個人啦齁6個人這樣的宣導的\n\n17\n00:06:11,345 --> 00:06:35,874\n我們下半年還要加強這個宣導作為尤其是你們實施辦法出來之後你們只有半年的時間在測試這半年時間測試之後馬上就在明年1月1號就要上路了是,我們會加強測試然後積極宣導好,這部分請你要加強不要等閒視之不好意思接下來我們請這個考選部考選部許部長新許部長\n\n18\n00:06:40,416 --> 00:07:08,395\n許副長,我看我們自己考選部的業務概況報告也有檢討這幾年我們公務人員的報考數一路下滑到現在手上有的統計資料到111年的時候是報考剩下21萬人倒考的人更少有報名但是真的倒考的才掉到13萬人\n\n19\n00:07:10,936 --> 00:07:34,887\n這些齁這個你們當然我看到你們的檢討啦齁這個全球情勢變遷啦人工智慧時代啦少子化啦這個好像這個這個問題這個問題是好像不是你們的問題這個是全世界的問題啦齁但是我們總是要有所因應嘛有所因應的部分我看到你們說要推動公務員的招募措施裡面\n\n20\n00:07:36,069 --> 00:07:59,680\n我比較有興趣我看到你們這個113年考選業務概況報告第4頁到第7頁你們有說擴大推動公務人員招考的措施這個你們有第一個你們說要幹什麼呢第一個要宣導第二個要這個透過藝文走廊第三個要考選集粹要座談召開座談這些都是\n\n21\n00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:21,728\n這些都是說實在是實在是我不曉得說你這想要達到什麼樣的目的但是我特別注意裡面有一個比較特別的你們提到說你們要舉辦預備文官團離島文官領航體驗營你們認為這個是增加這個報考人數的一個重大的新的措施請問你們到目前為止辦了幾屆\n\n22\n00:08:24,131 --> 00:08:41,980\n兩次一次跟基隆市政府一次跟連江縣政府這個參加的人數有多少31位那目前已經有5位考上公務員兩個提示加起來31位那你們的這個招募的對象大概是在學的學生是不是在學的學生\n\n23\n00:08:43,666 --> 00:09:08,743\n我看你們的這個業務報告裡面有提到有關這個這個精進措施推動文官團你們有進程計畫有中程計畫有遠程計畫對不對是中程計畫從什麼時候開始我想我們現在正在規劃我們希望有一個完整的一個方案這個部長你們你們這個這個\n\n24\n00:09:11,894 --> 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