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--> 00:02:30,344\n那個老公朋友會有專班專班的職業訓練所以應該他的上課時間我在想應該大部分都是6日對不對我在想啦我不知道這個沒關係對可是因為既然沒有辦法配合的話你應該要調整那個上課時間\n\n8\n00:02:31,445 --> 00:02:56,343\n報告委員這個我來請同仁他們來做改善第二個也是蠻高的就是沒有想要參加的課程所以你是不是應該先做一個類似像調查他們想要上什麼課才開那樣的課如果你看那樣的課沒有人要上你開有什麼意義是不是因為他的percentage還是蠻高的到最後這個110年的時候還有大概五分之一是不滿意他安排的你們安排的課程好不好我們來做調整好\n\n9\n00:03:00,629 --> 00:03:13,187\n目前公部門他有些應該是應該要足以運用原住民的他還是有一些地方是缺15還有缺16的這個部分希望你能夠去了解為什麼他們沒有辦法達到好不好\n\n10\n00:03:15,989 --> 00:03:36,715\n好,這個我來瞭解一下,我請同仁來瞭解目前做得最好,全國做得最好是桃園市就原住民就業這個部分那我希望如果你覺得桃園市現在的數據是桃園市最好的話你們應該去參考桃園市是怎麼做的然後再推廣到全省這樣,可以嗎?可以,會後來瞭解\n\n11\n00:03:38,309 --> 00:04:07,257\n現在一直在做多元就業開發方案也就是說希望留住在地的青年來培育我們或者是中老年的一些在地就業目前我看到的一個比較好的一個是叫沙老部落我們這樣念他的主語叫沙道沙豆那我看我看到的是他原本是沒有一個遊客可以造訪那個地區經過他們的努力一年可以超過400人也就是說可能就產生一些超過60萬台幣的一個產值就可以養活在地的人\n\n12\n00:04:07,797 --> 00:04:26,516\n那如果說這樣的一個模式是成功的話能不能在很多的地區開始示範啊或者是說去鼓勵他們做這樣子的一個在地就業他們就不用離鄉背井來工作好不好好好謝謝這個沒問題好下一頁那我們最後來萬美指可一下目前南韓的那個最低薪資\n\n13\n00:04:27,697 --> 00:04:41,978\n是在OECD的排名是這樣子是在不是在前面是在等於是在十幾名如果這樣子看12345678913名那13名的最低薪資遠高於我們\n\n14\n00:04:43,171 --> 00:04:57,570\n好那我覺得說我們在做最低薪資的一個做你們的計畫的或者是目標的時候有沒有一個主念的你預期應該達到什麼樣的一個價位讓我們的勞工可以滿意報告委員我們其實去年\n\n15\n00:04:58,231 --> 00:05:10,217\n年底已經通過最低工資法那未來我們在最低工資的審議的時候會有專家先提出研究的報告那勞資政協雙方也會在討論的時候會斟酌各種這個\n\n16\n00:05:14,699 --> 00:05:18,822\n日及14日二天一次會議員：盧縣一日及14日二天一次會議員：盧縣一日及14日\n\n17\n00:05:40,959 --> 00:06:01,102\n好那如果說我們相對就我們這樣的心智的話我們是不是應該都有罷工的權利我希望還是省省的思考一個機制這個提升勞工的薪資是我們一直要努力的目標然後我們會持續我們在做一些先進國家的一個年收入跟月收入一個比較那\n\n18\n00:06:02,082 --> 00:06:18,532\n而在這裡面只有新加坡有有在這個比較下面的排名也就是說新加坡的一個如果是就月收入來說已經到達5600美金是目前我們台灣如果換算台幣的話是17萬這是他平均的\n\n19\n00:06:19,292 --> 00:06:38,245\n收入而不是最高跟最低所以我們還是要檢討我們為什麼國內的收入是普遍低於我們之前可以相併併比的是小龍可以嗎好我可以親自的提高好其實跨部會是大家一起來努力本一個自的選擇來朝這個目標來賣進\n\n20\n00:06:50,083 --> 00:07:18,713\n我以為還有一點時間我還是希望能夠講一下職業安全的部分那因為在我們知道在桃園尤其是很多工廠的地方有沒有想過如果當時如果發生一些比如說工廠的爆炸啦或者是一些重大的一些職業災害啊有沒有在地可以處理的一個醫療院所因為基本上我知道如果說像桃園的福地也蠻大的如果說全部送到林口常科醫院的話\n\n21\n00:07:19,733 --> 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