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00:00:43,601\n邱委員好部長我請問一下上週本席才關心過我們勞保2028破產的問題那我這幾天又看到頭版我們勞保精算出負債13兆465億那我也看了您的這個業務報告根據研議勞工保險財務危機改善因應對策這句話是什麼意思準備有做什麼準備嗎\n\n3\n00:00:45,099 --> 00:00:47,120\n所以我想問的是你這個對策是什麼?\n\n4\n00:01:11,553 --> 00:01:25,074\n我們的對策第一個報告委員我們現在當然就是費率的調整我們每兩年調一次還有這個保費的一個收取也要強化然後另外就是說我們的那個\n\n5\n00:01:26,896 --> 00:01:40,615\n幾副審核要確實從部長上任然後另外就是撥補報告委員撥補的部分是目前各界有共識的所以這部分我們先做所以從2020到現在你一直撥補錢從哪裡來\n\n6\n00:01:45,330 --> 00:02:13,471\n就是政府編列預算公務預算撥補另外還有個特別預算我覺得你們應該要有一個好的一個政策出來吧一個方案出來這樣用撥補的永遠都是在撥補那要補到什麼時候那個報告委員其實調整的方向這個就是不會只有撥補這一個部分那當然還有其他方面像要來因為這個問題已經講了很久了我希望我們到現在還沒有看到一個具體的做法\n\n7\n00:02:15,315 --> 00:02:37,872\n只是說我們會研議改善因應對策那講了那麼久那所謂的政策是什麼我希望部長這邊給我一個明確的說明好嗎好因為我們這樣看齁我們目前看起來只是暫時不會餓死也不會馬上爆發但是長久下來這個問題還是存在的\n\n8\n00:02:40,939 --> 00:03:08,072\n部長論文我的說法嗎那是不是我們應該在這個時候還有時間我們盡快來處理這個問題包括這個問題是一定要處理不過就是我剛剛講的這個是一個蠻複雜的工程包括各個勞資團體包括各政黨大家可能對調整的方向調整的面向可能大家還是要有一些溝通然後有一定的共識\n\n9\n00:03:09,573 --> 00:03:27,129\n我看到這個報告我們自己勞動部精算過2039以後勞保將會達到這個給付的高峰每年都要給付超過一兆如果是這個而且連續30年你認為我們勞退基金不會破產嗎\n\n10\n00:03:28,476 --> 00:03:41,778\n老保老保老保不會破產嗎因為財務的問題的確就是要去面對但是這個也是政府辦的保險政府一定會負起給付的責任不過\n\n11\n00:03:43,055 --> 00:03:55,824\n才無論你一定要是解決啦好那當然我們現在我剛講目前波普只是好先踏出第一步而已好那其他的面向還要去做檢討喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔\n\n12\n00:04:07,551 --> 00:04:07,891\n你覺得撥補要補多少才會平啊?\n\n13\n00:04:32,016 --> 00:04:37,462\n當然這個要看整個基金的餘額狀況還有政府的財政狀況希望部長這邊能夠有一個具體的說法跟做法那什麼時候可以給我資料我們一個月提個報告給您\n\n14\n00:04:55,041 --> 00:05:15,709\n再來第二個問題我們民洋大火燒出了很多的問題那去年9月我們部長也承諾一個月決議是不是要收回我們產業園區的這個勞檢權那後來周署長也說涉及這個範圍很廣還是要跨部會討論那大概今年初會進一步討論那目前的進度在哪裡\n\n15\n00:05:17,692 --> 00:05:33,709\n這個行政院有邀集相關部會討論過目前是還沒有決定收回的這件事情但是有要求督導的機制要更確實然後有關於這個\n\n16\n00:05:35,691 --> 00:05:39,733\n那我這樣講,如果要說回勞安檢查權,勞動部有沒有盤點過說需要修改的法規有多少?很多,非常多。那會不會有困難?\n\n17\n00:05:57,325 --> 00:06:16,747\n我請署長說明一下謝謝委員其實現在比較大的困難是科管局就是原來金家區它的設置條例裡面有勞工勞工的事務事項當初在54年設置的時候法規就有授權所以要修它那個組織法才可能做進步的那個盤整但是我們跟委員報告在整個勞檢機制\n\n18\n00:06:18,188 --> 00:06:42,377\n現在科管局就是我們原來金家區他有16個檢察員他檢察員的訓練的管考或者他的執行方式都是我們中央統一來做一些管制的好啦我希望我們勞動部能夠積極一點該收回就要收回那或者是採取用合作的模式研議我們具有可行性的方案來確保我們產業園區和科學園區裡面的工業安全衛生這樣可以嗎好\n\n19\n00:06:46,021 --> 00:07:09,718\n那我再問我們非典型勞工要保障這個問題跟訴求其實已經很多年了那我們的賴清德準總統也說過面對台灣非典型勞工占比已經達到15%了那要強化非典型勞工在薪資工時休假保障等基本勞動權利給予更周延的保障那部長這邊有討論過這個問題嗎過去有\n\n20\n00:07:15,377 --> 00:07:40,902\n這個部分有關於非典勞工尤其像外送員的部分的權益保障其實一直也是勞動部非常關注的工作重點然後這個部分我們其實在勞動部部分首要從他的權益的安全還有他的薪酬的一個這個權益的這個保障還有包括他的保險我們從這三方面去做\n\n21\n00:07:42,522 --> 00:07:42,622\n一切規劃\n\n22\n00:08:12,142 --> 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--> 00:10.317\n好我們有請部長請許部長\n\n00:15.580 --> 00:43.601\n邱委員好部長我請問一下上週本席才關心過我們勞保2028破產的問題那我這幾天又看到頭版我們勞保精算出負債13兆465億那我也看了您的這個業務報告根據研議勞工保險財務危機改善因應對策這句話是什麼意思準備有做什麼準備嗎\n\n00:45.099 --> 00:47.120\n所以我想問的是你這個對策是什麼?\n\n01:11.553 --> 01:25.074\n我們的對策第一個報告委員我們現在當然就是費率的調整我們每兩年調一次還有這個保費的一個收取也要強化然後另外就是說我們的那個\n\n01:26.896 --> 01:40.615\n幾副審核要確實從部長上任然後另外就是撥補報告委員撥補的部分是目前各界有共識的所以這部分我們先做所以從2020到現在你一直撥補錢從哪裡來\n\n01:45.330 --> 02:13.471\n就是政府編列預算公務預算撥補另外還有個特別預算我覺得你們應該要有一個好的一個政策出來吧一個方案出來這樣用撥補的永遠都是在撥補那要補到什麼時候那個報告委員其實調整的方向這個就是不會只有撥補這一個部分那當然還有其他方面像要來因為這個問題已經講了很久了我希望我們到現在還沒有看到一個具體的做法\n\n02:15.315 --> 02:37.872\n只是說我們會研議改善因應對策那講了那麼久那所謂的政策是什麼我希望部長這邊給我一個明確的說明好嗎好因為我們這樣看齁我們目前看起來只是暫時不會餓死也不會馬上爆發但是長久下來這個問題還是存在的\n\n02:40.939 --> 03:08.072\n部長論文我的說法嗎那是不是我們應該在這個時候還有時間我們盡快來處理這個問題包括這個問題是一定要處理不過就是我剛剛講的這個是一個蠻複雜的工程包括各個勞資團體包括各政黨大家可能對調整的方向調整的面向可能大家還是要有一些溝通然後有一定的共識\n\n03:09.573 --> 03:27.129\n我看到這個報告我們自己勞動部精算過2039以後勞保將會達到這個給付的高峰每年都要給付超過一兆如果是這個而且連續30年你認為我們勞退基金不會破產嗎\n\n03:28.476 --> 03:41.778\n老保老保老保不會破產嗎因為財務的問題的確就是要去面對但是這個也是政府辦的保險政府一定會負起給付的責任不過\n\n03:43.055 --> 03:55.824\n才無論你一定要是解決啦好那當然我們現在我剛講目前波普只是好先踏出第一步而已好那其他的面向還要去做檢討喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔\n\n04:07.551 --> 04:07.891\n你覺得撥補要補多少才會平啊?\n\n04:32.016 --> 04:37.462\n當然這個要看整個基金的餘額狀況還有政府的財政狀況希望部長這邊能夠有一個具體的說法跟做法那什麼時候可以給我資料我們一個月提個報告給您\n\n04:55.041 --> 05:15.709\n再來第二個問題我們民洋大火燒出了很多的問題那去年9月我們部長也承諾一個月決議是不是要收回我們產業園區的這個勞檢權那後來周署長也說涉及這個範圍很廣還是要跨部會討論那大概今年初會進一步討論那目前的進度在哪裡\n\n05:17.692 --> 05:33.709\n這個行政院有邀集相關部會討論過目前是還沒有決定收回的這件事情但是有要求督導的機制要更確實然後有關於這個\n\n05:35.691 --> 05:39.733\n那我這樣講,如果要說回勞安檢查權,勞動部有沒有盤點過說需要修改的法規有多少?很多,非常多。那會不會有困難?\n\n05:57.325 --> 06:16.747\n我請署長說明一下謝謝委員其實現在比較大的困難是科管局就是原來金家區它的設置條例裡面有勞工勞工的事務事項當初在54年設置的時候法規就有授權所以要修它那個組織法才可能做進步的那個盤整但是我們跟委員報告在整個勞檢機制\n\n06:18.188 --> 06:42.377\n現在科管局就是我們原來金家區他有16個檢察員他檢察員的訓練的管考或者他的執行方式都是我們中央統一來做一些管制的好啦我希望我們勞動部能夠積極一點該收回就要收回那或者是採取用合作的模式研議我們具有可行性的方案來確保我們產業園區和科學園區裡面的工業安全衛生這樣可以嗎好\n\n06:46.021 --> 07:09.718\n那我再問我們非典型勞工要保障這個問題跟訴求其實已經很多年了那我們的賴清德準總統也說過面對台灣非典型勞工占比已經達到15%了那要強化非典型勞工在薪資工時休假保障等基本勞動權利給予更周延的保障那部長這邊有討論過這個問題嗎過去有\n\n07:15.377 --> 07:40.902\n這個部分有關於非典勞工尤其像外送員的部分的權益保障其實一直也是勞動部非常關注的工作重點然後這個部分我們其實在勞動部部分首要從他的權益的安全還有他的薪酬的一個這個權益的這個保障還有包括他的保險我們從這三方面去做\n\n07:42.522 --> 07:42.622\n一切規劃\n\n08:12.142 --> 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