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00:02:08,362\n那我們4月對4月還在開第二次會議我那天有看到公文那就是說上一次的會議是在去年11月21開的那時候整個就是包括專家學者各部會大家看法是認為這個是屬於個人債務那必須要要求來\n\n7\n00:02:10,464 --> 00:02:38,253\n一共來源國他提供或者來建立相關的處理機制那這個部分我們會來跟來源國透過雙邊的會議來做要求那另外就是說我們目前因為大部分的來源國都比較消極處理這個問題那我們未來會規劃就是對外國的仲介就是說他們移工要來他們母國的仲介我們會規劃他要付\n\n8\n00:02:40,615 --> 00:02:42,917\n在上個禮拜那個時候有提到針對外國的仲介公司\n\n9\n00:02:58,897 --> 00:03:17,963\n希望能夠針對於這些失聯移工的就醫的待葬看有沒有辦法克責那我們今天從貴部的業務報告裡面看到就是會對於這些外國的仲介會進行負擔遣返及縮容等連帶責任\n\n10\n00:03:19,423 --> 00:03:38,962\n可是沒有看到在這方面能不能夠將有關的一些醫療或者是就醫過程當中的代帳也能夠做適當的處理那這部分可不可以麻煩部長能夠把相關的字眼都可以納進來好謝謝\n\n11\n00:03:42,245 --> 00:03:57,547\n那再過來就是有關於這個談點我們職業安全相關的一些如何能夠保障勞工的健康權那其實本席十分關切目前職業安全的相關規範希望在所有的勞工\n\n12\n00:03:58,328 --> 00:04:21,103\n在進行他們的工作同時都能夠兼顧到安全跟健康得到應有的保障那其實我們也知道行政院在2018年就已經完成制定了這個18項的台灣永續發展目標其中有3項包括目標3目標8目標10都跟我們的勞動勞工有很密切的關係那\n\n13\n00:04:23,564 --> 00:04:46,370\n可是呢從這個過去兩年來我們看到的相關的規範除了除了大型的這些上市商會公司有比較完整的這些永續報告書以外其他的部分我們希望能夠繼續進進不過我們也看到在目前1800家左右的這些商會公司裡面有提出永續報告書的\n\n14\n00:04:47,970 --> 00:05:01,528\n好像只有三分之一那這一部分未來要如何來加強或者是有沒有更好的方式來讓所有的上位公司都能夠提出永續報告書如何去監測\n\n15\n00:05:02,622 --> 00:05:29,670\n委員這部分我請署長來說明好謝謝謝謝委員那個有關永續的17個指標或者國家第18個指標其實我們勞動部認為說每個指標都跟我們工作者有關係所以我們勞動部跟國發會針對永續部分我們安全健康的列為我們往前推展的一個方向那至於委員關鍵是我們跟上市公司的那個報告書其實金管會針對一定規模以上的公司要寫永續報告書但是報告書它的那個框架架構有關\n\n16\n00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:44,216\n老公安全健康怎麼寫我們其實暫時有定一個指南供給世界單位做參考同時我每年會針對這有趣報告書有關安全安全揭露狀況好不好我們可以做神秘課調查跟抽樣來做一些評比\n\n17\n00:05:44,884 --> 00:06:08,867\n所以謝謝委員提醒其實大企業這對安全健康那雲林小企業是整個體系在展開了我們會透過永續的精神讓大企業帶小企業把勞工健康問題往下扎根謝謝委員提醒謝謝好那我們可以看下一個畫面知道說其實這個GRI403他是指標那這個指標裡面包括第三項職業健康服務\n\n18\n00:06:09,508 --> 00:06:27,930\n有沒有進行相關的這些健康檢查那如何能夠讓工作者健康促進可以持續的讓這些健康工作的人得到健康的保護還有職業傷害我們可以看到不同的職列其實他接落的情形都有待加強\n\n19\n00:06:28,931 --> 00:06:46,709\n所以剛剛書長有提到我們期待應該是各方面的職類都應該努力的來加強這部分非常謝謝委員這個報告當然是我們勞動部責任署做極限調查的報告那我們發現說一年比年有稍微進步但是我們認為說有些產業它其實是比較弱的所以我們會針對我們這兩年的\n\n20\n00:06:49,022 --> 00:06:49,042\n謝謝委員\n\n21\n00:07:12,125 --> 00:07:40,830\n好謝謝再過來我們可以看一下其實企業辦理勞工這個健康檢查剛剛提到是第三項的部分可是我們看到針對一些特殊的檢查健康檢查還是有蠻大的落差依照貴屬的推估目前將近有500家事實上是沒有執行相關這個勞工檢查那這些黑數是我們未來有什麼方\n\n22\n00:07:41,710 --> 00:08:02,602\n法或者是對策來盡量減少這些黑數。謝謝委員提醒,因為我們現在按照這個事業上通報跟相關系統的嫁接,我們現在全國大概6600家社都要做特別危害健康作為檢查。一般勞工是做一般健康檢查。但是6600家的部分,剛剛委員有提醒就是我們從系統去嫁接他有沒有\n\n23\n00:08:26,129 --> 00:08:28,271\n新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞\n\n24\n00:08:49,651 --> 00:09:17,589\n除了大型的這些檢查以外那針對於臺電中有對於相關承包商的監督針對下層的這個監督可以更落實的話對於我們從事這種很辛苦的勞動人員應該可以讓他的特殊健康檢查可以得到更好的保障是那再過來就是有關於在做這個健康檢查的當中我們也了解有去\n\n25\n00:09:18,530 --> 00:09:40,682\n看執行這些健康檢查的醫療院所是不是在他都能夠有效的執行相關的內容那我們可以看到的就是根據去了解這些醫療機構發現他們得到的相對分數是低的很多是C跟D的等級那C跟D的等級意思就是我們去了解發現相關的\n\n26\n00:09:43,163 --> 00:10:09,362\n人員其實都非常的優秀可是呢他的一些軟硬體的設施不是不足或就是有相關的缺失那這一部分如何能夠讓這些從事健康檢查的醫療機構在平分如果相對低的時候有哪一些改善的方法如何能夠把相關的這些資源可以引進來不知道未來有沒有特別的規劃先有人關係\n\n27\n00:10:11,209 --> 00:10:27,277\n老公見他檢查的醫療機構他應該符合標準安全的需求才讓他執行所以我們有平和機制有所以看到委員秀的是我們平和的成績那我們現在有新的機制就是如果連續3年不好我們就把他要下降因為我們要擇優太劣所以有關這樣子的那個\n\n28\n00:10:28,362 --> 00:10:28,923\n王正旭委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5939\t11250\t謝謝主席。有請許部長、執安署、周署長王委員好部長好、署長好\n17120\t39772\t關於這個移工醫療權益的問題我們上週在質詢裡面也跟部長有討論過就是當時編輯就建議說必須要串聯跨部會的資源來進行有關於這些移工在各方面權益的這個維護那其實我們也了解資源不是沒有只是沒有妥善的整合\n40852\t63837\t很多政策其實都已經行之多年包括像我們在三四的時候有提到針對國內事實上有4家以上的這個友善醫院針對於我們這些移工做相關的這個醫療資源的處理那這部分我們期待還能夠持續的加強那今天部長的報告裡面其實也有討論到未來怎麼去加強\n64917\t85516\t各方面的這些勞動人力還有移工方面的部分那如何強化這個外籍移工醫療服務的可進性那個時候部長也表示說會持續也允諾會跟衛福部來商演一些精進的措施那不知道未來在這方面部長有哪一些的規劃\n87058\t108439\t報告委員我先說明新南向的健康服務中心我們後來去了解它是針對國人的部分沒有包括移工其他的項目是比較少然後有關於移工欠費的問題這個部分也在行政院也召開過跨部會的會議\n109640\t128362\t那我們4月對4月還在開第二次會議我那天有看到公文那就是說上一次的會議是在去年11月21開的那時候整個就是包括專家學者各部會大家看法是認為這個是屬於個人債務那必須要要求來\n130464\t158253\t一共來源國他提供或者來建立相關的處理機制那這個部分我們會來跟來源國透過雙邊的會議來做要求那另外就是說我們目前因為大部分的來源國都比較消極處理這個問題那我們未來會規劃就是對外國的仲介就是說他們移工要來他們母國的仲介我們會規劃他要付\n160615\t162917\t在上個禮拜那個時候有提到針對外國的仲介公司\n178897\t197963\t希望能夠針對於這些失聯移工的就醫的待葬看有沒有辦法克責那我們今天從貴部的業務報告裡面看到就是會對於這些外國的仲介會進行負擔遣返及縮容等連帶責任\n199423\t218962\t可是沒有看到在這方面能不能夠將有關的一些醫療或者是就醫過程當中的代帳也能夠做適當的處理那這部分可不可以麻煩部長能夠把相關的字眼都可以納進來好謝謝\n222245\t237547\t那再過來就是有關於這個談點我們職業安全相關的一些如何能夠保障勞工的健康權那其實本席十分關切目前職業安全的相關規範希望在所有的勞工\n238328\t261103\t在進行他們的工作同時都能夠兼顧到安全跟健康得到應有的保障那其實我們也知道行政院在2018年就已經完成制定了這個18項的台灣永續發展目標其中有3項包括目標3目標8目標10都跟我們的勞動勞工有很密切的關係那\n263564\t286370\t可是呢從這個過去兩年來我們看到的相關的規範除了除了大型的這些上市商會公司有比較完整的這些永續報告書以外其他的部分我們希望能夠繼續進進不過我們也看到在目前1800家左右的這些商會公司裡面有提出永續報告書的\n287970\t301528\t好像只有三分之一那這一部分未來要如何來加強或者是有沒有更好的方式來讓所有的上位公司都能夠提出永續報告書如何去監測\n302622\t329670\t委員這部分我請署長來說明好謝謝謝謝委員那個有關永續的17個指標或者國家第18個指標其實我們勞動部認為說每個指標都跟我們工作者有關係所以我們勞動部跟國發會針對永續部分我們安全健康的列為我們往前推展的一個方向那至於委員關鍵是我們跟上市公司的那個報告書其實金管會針對一定規模以上的公司要寫永續報告書但是報告書它的那個框架架構有關\n330510\t344216\t老公安全健康怎麼寫我們其實暫時有定一個指南供給世界單位做參考同時我每年會針對這有趣報告書有關安全安全揭露狀況好不好我們可以做神秘課調查跟抽樣來做一些評比\n344884\t368867\t所以謝謝委員提醒其實大企業這對安全健康那雲林小企業是整個體系在展開了我們會透過永續的精神讓大企業帶小企業把勞工健康問題往下扎根謝謝委員提醒謝謝好那我們可以看下一個畫面知道說其實這個GRI403他是指標那這個指標裡面包括第三項職業健康服務\n369508\t387930\t有沒有進行相關的這些健康檢查那如何能夠讓工作者健康促進可以持續的讓這些健康工作的人得到健康的保護還有職業傷害我們可以看到不同的職列其實他接落的情形都有待加強\n388931\t406709\t所以剛剛書長有提到我們期待應該是各方面的職類都應該努力的來加強這部分非常謝謝委員 這個報告當然是我們勞動部責任署做極限調查的報告那我們發現說一年比年有稍微進步但是我們認為說有些產業它其實是比較弱的所以我們會針對我們這兩年的\n409022\t409042\t謝謝委員\n432125\t460830\t好 謝謝再過來我們可以看一下其實企業辦理勞工這個健康檢查剛剛提到是第三項的部分可是我們看到針對一些特殊的檢查健康檢查還是有蠻大的落差依照貴屬的推估目前將近有500家事實上是沒有執行相關這個勞工檢查那這些黑數是我們未來有什麼方\n461710\t482602\t法或者是對策來盡量減少這些黑數。謝謝委員提醒,因為我們現在按照這個事業上通報跟相關系統的嫁接,我們現在全國大概6600家社都要做特別危害健康作為檢查。一般勞工是做一般健康檢查。但是6600家的部分,剛剛委員有提醒就是我們從系統去嫁接他有沒有\n482722\t506049\t﹚\n506129\t508271\t新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞\n529651\t557589\t除了大型的這些檢查以外那針對於臺電中有對於相關承包商的監督針對下層的這個監督可以更落實的話對於我們從事這種很辛苦的勞動人員應該可以讓他的特殊健康檢查可以得到更好的保障是那再過來就是有關於在做這個健康檢查的當中我們也了解有去\n558530\t580682\t看執行這些健康檢查的醫療院所是不是在他都能夠有效的執行相關的內容那我們可以看到的就是根據去了解這些醫療機構發現他們得到的相對分數是低的很多是C跟D的等級那C跟D的等級意思就是我們去了解發現相關的\n583163\t609362\t人員其實都非常的優秀可是呢他的一些軟硬體的設施不是不足或就是有相關的缺失那這一部分如何能夠讓這些從事健康檢查的醫療機構在平分如果相對低的時候有哪一些改善的方法如何能夠把相關的這些資源可以引進來不知道未來有沒有特別的規劃先有人關係\n611209\t627277\t老公見他檢查的醫療機構他應該符合標準安全的需求才讓他執行所以我們有平和機制有所以看到委員秀的是我們平和的成績那我們現在有新的機制就是如果連續3年不好我們就把他要下降因為我們要擇優太劣所以有關這樣子的那個\n628362\t628923\t王正旭委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席。有請許部長、執安署、周署長王委員好部長好、署長好\n關於這個移工醫療權益的問題我們上週在質詢裡面也跟部長有討論過就是當時編輯就建議說必須要串聯跨部會的資源來進行有關於這些移工在各方面權益的這個維護那其實我們也了解資源不是沒有只是沒有妥善的整合\n很多政策其實都已經行之多年包括像我們在三四的時候有提到針對國內事實上有4家以上的這個友善醫院針對於我們這些移工做相關的這個醫療資源的處理那這部分我們期待還能夠持續的加強那今天部長的報告裡面其實也有討論到未來怎麼去加強\n各方面的這些勞動人力還有移工方面的部分那如何強化這個外籍移工醫療服務的可進性那個時候部長也表示說會持續也允諾會跟衛福部來商演一些精進的措施那不知道未來在這方面部長有哪一些的規劃\n報告委員我先說明新南向的健康服務中心我們後來去了解它是針對國人的部分沒有包括移工其他的項目是比較少然後有關於移工欠費的問題這個部分也在行政院也召開過跨部會的會議\n那我們4月對4月還在開第二次會議我那天有看到公文那就是說上一次的會議是在去年11月21開的那時候整個就是包括專家學者各部會大家看法是認為這個是屬於個人債務那必須要要求來\n一共來源國他提供或者來建立相關的處理機制那這個部分我們會來跟來源國透過雙邊的會議來做要求那另外就是說我們目前因為大部分的來源國都比較消極處理這個問題那我們未來會規劃就是對外國的仲介就是說他們移工要來他們母國的仲介我們會規劃他要付\n在上個禮拜那個時候有提到針對外國的仲介公司\n希望能夠針對於這些失聯移工的就醫的待葬看有沒有辦法克責那我們今天從貴部的業務報告裡面看到就是會對於這些外國的仲介會進行負擔遣返及縮容等連帶責任\n可是沒有看到在這方面能不能夠將有關的一些醫療或者是就醫過程當中的代帳也能夠做適當的處理那這部分可不可以麻煩部長能夠把相關的字眼都可以納進來好謝謝\n那再過來就是有關於這個談點我們職業安全相關的一些如何能夠保障勞工的健康權那其實本席十分關切目前職業安全的相關規範希望在所有的勞工\n在進行他們的工作同時都能夠兼顧到安全跟健康得到應有的保障那其實我們也知道行政院在2018年就已經完成制定了這個18項的台灣永續發展目標其中有3項包括目標3目標8目標10都跟我們的勞動勞工有很密切的關係那\n可是呢從這個過去兩年來我們看到的相關的規範除了除了大型的這些上市商會公司有比較完整的這些永續報告書以外其他的部分我們希望能夠繼續進進不過我們也看到在目前1800家左右的這些商會公司裡面有提出永續報告書的\n好像只有三分之一那這一部分未來要如何來加強或者是有沒有更好的方式來讓所有的上位公司都能夠提出永續報告書如何去監測\n委員這部分我請署長來說明好謝謝謝謝委員那個有關永續的17個指標或者國家第18個指標其實我們勞動部認為說每個指標都跟我們工作者有關係所以我們勞動部跟國發會針對永續部分我們安全健康的列為我們往前推展的一個方向那至於委員關鍵是我們跟上市公司的那個報告書其實金管會針對一定規模以上的公司要寫永續報告書但是報告書它的那個框架架構有關\n老公安全健康怎麼寫我們其實暫時有定一個指南供給世界單位做參考同時我每年會針對這有趣報告書有關安全安全揭露狀況好不好我們可以做神秘課調查跟抽樣來做一些評比\n所以謝謝委員提醒其實大企業這對安全健康那雲林小企業是整個體系在展開了我們會透過永續的精神讓大企業帶小企業把勞工健康問題往下扎根謝謝委員提醒謝謝好那我們可以看下一個畫面知道說其實這個GRI403他是指標那這個指標裡面包括第三項職業健康服務\n有沒有進行相關的這些健康檢查那如何能夠讓工作者健康促進可以持續的讓這些健康工作的人得到健康的保護還有職業傷害我們可以看到不同的職列其實他接落的情形都有待加強\n所以剛剛書長有提到我們期待應該是各方面的職類都應該努力的來加強這部分非常謝謝委員 這個報告當然是我們勞動部責任署做極限調查的報告那我們發現說一年比年有稍微進步但是我們認為說有些產業它其實是比較弱的所以我們會針對我們這兩年的\n謝謝委員\n好 謝謝再過來我們可以看一下其實企業辦理勞工這個健康檢查剛剛提到是第三項的部分可是我們看到針對一些特殊的檢查健康檢查還是有蠻大的落差依照貴屬的推估目前將近有500家事實上是沒有執行相關這個勞工檢查那這些黑數是我們未來有什麼方\n法或者是對策來盡量減少這些黑數。謝謝委員提醒,因為我們現在按照這個事業上通報跟相關系統的嫁接,我們現在全國大概6600家社都要做特別危害健康作為檢查。一般勞工是做一般健康檢查。但是6600家的部分,剛剛委員有提醒就是我們從系統去嫁接他有沒有\n﹚\n新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞\n除了大型的這些檢查以外那針對於臺電中有對於相關承包商的監督針對下層的這個監督可以更落實的話對於我們從事這種很辛苦的勞動人員應該可以讓他的特殊健康檢查可以得到更好的保障是那再過來就是有關於在做這個健康檢查的當中我們也了解有去\n看執行這些健康檢查的醫療院所是不是在他都能夠有效的執行相關的內容那我們可以看到的就是根據去了解這些醫療機構發現他們得到的相對分數是低的很多是C跟D的等級那C跟D的等級意思就是我們去了解發現相關的\n人員其實都非常的優秀可是呢他的一些軟硬體的設施不是不足或就是有相關的缺失那這一部分如何能夠讓這些從事健康檢查的醫療機構在平分如果相對低的時候有哪一些改善的方法如何能夠把相關的這些資源可以引進來不知道未來有沒有特別的規劃先有人關係\n老公見他檢查的醫療機構他應該符合標準安全的需求才讓他執行所以我們有平和機制有所以看到委員秀的是我們平和的成績那我們現在有新的機制就是如果連續3年不好我們就把他要下降因為我們要擇優太劣所以有關這樣子的那個\n王正旭委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.939 --> 00:11.250\n謝謝主席。有請許部長、執安署、周署長王委員好部長好、署長好\n\n00:17.120 --> 00:39.772\n關於這個移工醫療權益的問題我們上週在質詢裡面也跟部長有討論過就是當時編輯就建議說必須要串聯跨部會的資源來進行有關於這些移工在各方面權益的這個維護那其實我們也了解資源不是沒有只是沒有妥善的整合\n\n00:40.852 --> 01:03.837\n很多政策其實都已經行之多年包括像我們在三四的時候有提到針對國內事實上有4家以上的這個友善醫院針對於我們這些移工做相關的這個醫療資源的處理那這部分我們期待還能夠持續的加強那今天部長的報告裡面其實也有討論到未來怎麼去加強\n\n01:04.917 --> 01:25.516\n各方面的這些勞動人力還有移工方面的部分那如何強化這個外籍移工醫療服務的可進性那個時候部長也表示說會持續也允諾會跟衛福部來商演一些精進的措施那不知道未來在這方面部長有哪一些的規劃\n\n01:27.058 --> 01:48.439\n報告委員我先說明新南向的健康服務中心我們後來去了解它是針對國人的部分沒有包括移工其他的項目是比較少然後有關於移工欠費的問題這個部分也在行政院也召開過跨部會的會議\n\n01:49.640 --> 02:08.362\n那我們4月對4月還在開第二次會議我那天有看到公文那就是說上一次的會議是在去年11月21開的那時候整個就是包括專家學者各部會大家看法是認為這個是屬於個人債務那必須要要求來\n\n02:10.464 --> 02:38.253\n一共來源國他提供或者來建立相關的處理機制那這個部分我們會來跟來源國透過雙邊的會議來做要求那另外就是說我們目前因為大部分的來源國都比較消極處理這個問題那我們未來會規劃就是對外國的仲介就是說他們移工要來他們母國的仲介我們會規劃他要付\n\n02:40.615 --> 02:42.917\n在上個禮拜那個時候有提到針對外國的仲介公司\n\n02:58.897 --> 03:17.963\n希望能夠針對於這些失聯移工的就醫的待葬看有沒有辦法克責那我們今天從貴部的業務報告裡面看到就是會對於這些外國的仲介會進行負擔遣返及縮容等連帶責任\n\n03:19.423 --> 03:38.962\n可是沒有看到在這方面能不能夠將有關的一些醫療或者是就醫過程當中的代帳也能夠做適當的處理那這部分可不可以麻煩部長能夠把相關的字眼都可以納進來好謝謝\n\n03:42.245 --> 03:57.547\n那再過來就是有關於這個談點我們職業安全相關的一些如何能夠保障勞工的健康權那其實本席十分關切目前職業安全的相關規範希望在所有的勞工\n\n03:58.328 --> 04:21.103\n在進行他們的工作同時都能夠兼顧到安全跟健康得到應有的保障那其實我們也知道行政院在2018年就已經完成制定了這個18項的台灣永續發展目標其中有3項包括目標3目標8目標10都跟我們的勞動勞工有很密切的關係那\n\n04:23.564 --> 04:46.370\n可是呢從這個過去兩年來我們看到的相關的規範除了除了大型的這些上市商會公司有比較完整的這些永續報告書以外其他的部分我們希望能夠繼續進進不過我們也看到在目前1800家左右的這些商會公司裡面有提出永續報告書的\n\n04:47.970 --> 05:01.528\n好像只有三分之一那這一部分未來要如何來加強或者是有沒有更好的方式來讓所有的上位公司都能夠提出永續報告書如何去監測\n\n05:02.622 --> 05:29.670\n委員這部分我請署長來說明好謝謝謝謝委員那個有關永續的17個指標或者國家第18個指標其實我們勞動部認為說每個指標都跟我們工作者有關係所以我們勞動部跟國發會針對永續部分我們安全健康的列為我們往前推展的一個方向那至於委員關鍵是我們跟上市公司的那個報告書其實金管會針對一定規模以上的公司要寫永續報告書但是報告書它的那個框架架構有關\n\n05:30.510 --> 05:44.216\n老公安全健康怎麼寫我們其實暫時有定一個指南供給世界單位做參考同時我每年會針對這有趣報告書有關安全安全揭露狀況好不好我們可以做神秘課調查跟抽樣來做一些評比\n\n05:44.884 --> 06:08.867\n所以謝謝委員提醒其實大企業這對安全健康那雲林小企業是整個體系在展開了我們會透過永續的精神讓大企業帶小企業把勞工健康問題往下扎根謝謝委員提醒謝謝好那我們可以看下一個畫面知道說其實這個GRI403他是指標那這個指標裡面包括第三項職業健康服務\n\n06:09.508 --> 06:27.930\n有沒有進行相關的這些健康檢查那如何能夠讓工作者健康促進可以持續的讓這些健康工作的人得到健康的保護還有職業傷害我們可以看到不同的職列其實他接落的情形都有待加強\n\n06:28.931 --> 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