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00:02:38,815\n是可以直接查詢到因為裡面目前好像沒有搜尋的一個機制跟委員報告我們的那個所有的外資投資案件我們都會對外的揭露是那揭露就很簡單就是比方說哪個公司多少錢就這樣那我們本來想說是不是有更友善的方式我們要查詢的時候是查詢得到的因為目前我上網去查是沒有查詢到如果你們有更好的一個功能的部分有更好的功能嗎\n\n8\n00:02:40,459 --> 00:03:03,461\n應該沒有吧?因為我至少我上去他就是非常的不友善就是只能夠簡單看到就是時間序列出來然後看不到你沒有任何查詢的一個機制那之後如果要補充說明再到本辦來稍微做一下說明那我另外想要提到另外一個點就是說我想問一下部長就是說因為你覺得我看到那個我們\n\n9\n00:03:04,862 --> 00:03:33,150\n經濟部的一個新聞稿就對於整個外商來台灣投資的部分的時候我覺得感覺到經濟不是熱誠歡迎的可是對於陸資來台投資的時候我就感覺就感覺態度是不太一樣的那我這邊我想要講一個點就是說我們對於整個台灣以外的企業來台灣投資我覺得應該都站在一個歡迎的立場我覺得這是很重要的一個點因為我看到一個數字就是說對於大陸來台投資\n\n10\n00:03:34,831 --> 00:03:55,570\n僅30件,金額2969萬美金,然後聊勝於無用一個聊勝於無這樣的一個字眼的時候我覺得感覺就有一些價值判斷在那裡頭啦那我是覺得可能不是那麼適合你們回去看一下你們的新聞稿再來跟我因為我是從你們新聞稿裡面看到的字眼我就覺得感覺有一些不一樣的態度\n\n11\n00:03:56,271 --> 00:03:58,953\n本集辦公室也常常接到一個狀態就是說從港澳來台灣投資的狀態的時候感覺會碰到很多\n\n12\n00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:18,619\n應該沒有\n\n13\n00:04:35,478 --> 00:04:35,658\n目前沒有,對\n\n14\n00:04:49,898 --> 00:04:50,098\n姓寶基金\n\n15\n00:05:06,808 --> 00:05:22,763\n中央政府嚴重特殊傳染性肺炎防治及紓困振興特別決算審核報告裡面他有特別提到了一個點就是說我們整個信保基金整個信保基金他\n\n16\n00:05:25,265 --> 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