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00:03:16,436\n委員讓我等一下去了解一下狀況對所以我一定要請你們去了解的狀況第一個緬甸的這個委員這個學校因為他是今年第一度首次參加我們這個計畫所以他可能對於我們的一些作業不是那麼了解這都有可能這都有可能事實上我們後來回覆給學校就說你可能某些地方有誤解因為我們有來詢問有些地方有誤解還怎麼樣\n\n10\n00:03:20,489 --> 00:03:20,529\n王鴻薇議員\n\n11\n00:03:36,420 --> 00:03:36,460\n王鴻薇議員\n\n12\n00:04:06,533 --> 00:04:06,653\n主席\n\n13\n00:04:20,202 --> 00:04:21,283\n林組長是很客氣的人\n\n14\n00:04:44,642 --> 00:04:45,102\n我今天馬上來調查\n\n15\n00:05:08,317 --> 00:05:08,777\n李慧琼議員\n\n16\n00:05:24,676 --> 00:05:46,498\n你們其實也一直在宣揚說報名人數創新高創新高那麽確實那我剛講人家真的來報名了你又去把人家刷掉刷掉人家來詢問你們要去罵人家學校但是你可以看監察院在去年底的報告裡面特別提出了我們產西裝班的成效\n\n17\n00:05:47,299 --> 00:06:04,110\n其中我覺得有幾個這也是值得我們去了解改進我剛講說你說光是報名人數創新高但是呢第一個他的畢業率低畢業率低為什麼他會畢業率低呢是學生的水準真的很差嗎\n\n18\n00:06:05,231 --> 00:06:05,591\n王鴻薇議員\n\n19\n00:06:32,345 --> 00:06:46,987\n委員會希望能夠多一點學生,大家都知道掃紫化,大家都希望學生能多一些,所以你們力闢趕到,力闢學生的來源,學校當然很歡迎。但是呢,我們也出現了,這個產息專班的留台率也偏低。\n\n20\n00:06:47,507 --> 00:06:47,688\n以監察院的報告．\n\n21\n00:07:03,171 --> 00:07:03,211\n王鴻薇\n\n22\n00:07:21,344 --> 00:07:41,603\n這兩年來我就非常高度重視為什麼在第一線雖然他好像有受了240個小時可是每一個人學習程度不一樣這是為什麼我們需要面試面試跟他談一些基本的問題的時候就可以了解他有沒有真的懂還是說他只是做一個表面我有上課我有上課有些人學習進度比較慢有的人比較快\n\n23\n00:07:42,464 --> 00:07:52,013\n所以他今年沒有入取沒關係明年他程度提升了我們還是會入取他這個我都了解其實我們本來回復學校也是如此所以我剛剛講是後面的動作那請也請我們那個這是不是喬森處辦的業務對不對因為他這個監察院確實他是停留在105年\n\n24\n00:08:00,521 --> 00:08:29,362\n也請你們把相關這幾年的資料也能夠給我們辦公室一份讓我們知道如果有改進改進的成效如何因為否則的話整個流台流台的比率還不到4成而且後來變成3成後來變成2成多連3成都不到那真的是太偏低了好不好那你把這個相關的資料再補給我們辦公室好委員這個最新可能要到今年的6月因為他們才畢業畢業以後才會有最新的你先把去年啊去年的資料\n\n25\n00:08:30,102 --> 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03:36.460\n王鴻薇議員\n\n04:06.533 --> 04:06.653\n主席\n\n04:20.202 --> 04:21.283\n林組長是很客氣的人\n\n04:44.642 --> 04:45.102\n我今天馬上來調查\n\n05:08.317 --> 05:08.777\n李慧琼議員\n\n05:24.676 --> 05:46.498\n你們其實也一直在宣揚說報名人數創新高創新高那麽確實那我剛講人家真的來報名了你又去把人家刷掉刷掉人家來詢問你們要去罵人家學校但是你可以看監察院在去年底的報告裡面特別提出了我們產西裝班的成效\n\n05:47.299 --> 06:04.110\n其中我覺得有幾個這也是值得我們去了解改進我剛講說你說光是報名人數創新高但是呢第一個他的畢業率低畢業率低為什麼他會畢業率低呢是學生的水準真的很差嗎\n\n06:05.231 --> 06:05.591\n王鴻薇議員\n\n06:32.345 --> 06:46.987\n委員會希望能夠多一點學生,大家都知道掃紫化,大家都希望學生能多一些,所以你們力闢趕到,力闢學生的來源,學校當然很歡迎。但是呢,我們也出現了,這個產息專班的留台率也偏低。\n\n06:47.507 --> 06:47.688\n以監察院的報告．\n\n07:03.171 --> 07:03.211\n王鴻薇\n\n07:21.344 --> 07:41.603\n這兩年來我就非常高度重視為什麼在第一線雖然他好像有受了240個小時可是每一個人學習程度不一樣這是為什麼我們需要面試面試跟他談一些基本的問題的時候就可以了解他有沒有真的懂還是說他只是做一個表面我有上課我有上課有些人學習進度比較慢有的人比較快\n\n07:42.464 --> 07:52.013\n所以他今年沒有入取沒關係明年他程度提升了我們還是會入取他這個我都了解其實我們本來回復學校也是如此所以我剛剛講是後面的動作那請也請我們那個這是不是喬森處辦的業務對不對因為他這個監察院確實他是停留在105年\n\n08:00.521 --> 08:29.362\n也請你們把相關這幾年的資料也能夠給我們辦公室一份讓我們知道如果有改進改進的成效如何因為否則的話整個流台流台的比率還不到4成而且後來變成3成後來變成2成多連3成都不到那真的是太偏低了好不好那你把這個相關的資料再補給我們辦公室好委員這個最新可能要到今年的6月因為他們才畢業畢業以後才會有最新的你先把去年啊去年的資料\n\n08:30.102 --> 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