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00:04:10,435\n不註冊的話是看到資訊是就是比較簡單那我們可以來營業不用註冊的方式我想這個沒有問題對啦我是覺得啦這個很好的一個APP應該讓大家多使用你要他的比較互動什麼的你可以廣大之後再去篩選啦我是建議這樣啦好我們來鼓勵朝這個方向好不好好謝謝委員好\n\n11\n00:04:12,932 --> 00:04:34,796\n那另外啊其實齁這個GoOcean不錯所以我可以想像出來臺灣很多人啊齁已經慢慢的齁會在海域啊或水域去活動啦齁我們不要害怕對但很多保險公司啊對這個啊齁欸他拒絕提供保那我們有沒有去跨部會協商一下\n\n12\n00:04:36,690 --> 00:04:50,465\n我們開兩次會這個問題也有到我這裡來尤其是尤其是譬如說以潛水來講只有潛水\n\n13\n00:04:52,967 --> 00:05:18,186\n那我們的協調只有在說你活動的時候就那個活動的單次願意保險公司願意但是整體去開這樣的保單目前我們幾經協調還是沒有辦法突破那最主要的原因是因為保險公司他要精算出保單他需要有足夠的資料庫做背景去算\n\n14\n00:05:19,006 --> 00:05:39,559\n目前累積的相關的海事活動上面比如說以自由潛水來講的話它累積的這些數值還不夠所以他們就沒有願意貿然的要去很快的算出這個保單的制度來那我們很希望能夠趕快的突破\n\n15\n00:05:40,399 --> 00:06:05,870\n包括很多海事產業他在發展的時候他銀行受信也因為銀行對海事產業的申書所以他在銀行受信上面他也都受到一些阻礙沒辦法取得受信譬如說如果我要發展海事活動的服務業那很可能我租了一個碼頭以後那個清淤就要花好幾億\n\n16\n00:06:06,826 --> 00:06:09,807\n海洋委員會函．為113年度中央政府總預算凍結50萬元書面報告案。\n\n17\n00:06:24,232 --> 00:06:52,755\n我們海資處也都很努力的在協助產業界去做跨部會或者是民間與政府之間的協調那能夠突破的也有一些但是有關於海事產業的金融的這一塊確實目前比較多阻礙我們會來努力對主委其實我知道這就是我們海洋基本法通過之後會慢慢的面臨的這些問題不管是產業不管是人民\n\n18\n00:06:54,176 --> 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