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00:01:46,514\n就是這樣子但是又隨時放出一個聲音又出來又賠了多少怎麼樣會怎麼樣那似乎對於我們的這個勞工朋友非常的不公平所以呢本期要來請教部長那我請教部長你在勞保修正的條例你會提出嗎請說說明\n\n6\n00:01:49,105 --> 00:02:00,812\n報告委員目前那個方案就是草案還沒有還是還沒有來繼續本席要請教那如果你連提的方案都沒有\n\n7\n00:02:02,472 --> 00:02:28,732\n那就擺爛的阿那等一下請教喔2028年勞保破產那如果你現在沒有方案協助喔比如說像台電需要倒我們趕快請行政院來支援因為不能漲價民生店漲了那物價又要漲了那是更大的洞所以行政院也支援那在這樣子的情況之下沒關係我們好好來討論喔\n\n8\n00:02:30,885 --> 00:02:37,870\n那就是說我們政府當然要撥補給我們要努力這一塊那在這樣的情況之下\n\n9\n00:02:39,366 --> 00:03:08,815\n你可以保證政府每一年可以來撥補這個基金讓勞保不破產嗎因為本期要跟你討論的是應該要去努力行政院你如果每一年撥補的預算是1500億那就不會有這個問題那你總是你的條例未出以前那你要保證我們的勞保基金不會倒啊這才是部長你應該要做的啊\n\n10\n00:03:09,755 --> 00:03:23,768\n請說明根委員報告其實上一次計算報告是110年那在109年的時候我們基金餘額是7625億那到現在為止我的基金餘額到1月是9088億我記得這幾年透過撥補透過我們的投資老保基金的投資運用其實我們的這個基金的\n\n11\n00:03:34,358 --> 00:03:39,980\n那個財務是有增加增加1463億那我是跟委員報告就是說這種撥補也好投資運用也好這個都是讓我們財務能夠穩定那撥補的部分我們也持續先暫停你的回答因為每一次告訴我們就是這個方向\n\n12\n00:03:54,324 --> 00:04:08,553\n但是每一次一小段時間就會告訴我們我們如果不怎麼樣呢那我們就會這個勞保金捐就會倒這個聲音在民眾的身上已經很痛苦了會倒會破產這都是媒體的報導我一向我們都是講說這是政府辦的社會保險勞工安心政府一定會負最後幾分責任這是媒體說的\n\n13\n00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:32,128\n但是人家有這樣的疑慮你就要去提出方案不管任何方案因為在你的立場就不是要保證他真的不能倒嘛我們勞工才會安心啊當然這是你的工作所以來本期跟你討論勞退新制2005年實行到現在幾年啊\n\n14\n00:04:48,259 --> 00:05:15,838\n啊?勞退新制到現在幾年啊?201818年18年了嘛吼那我們法定的這個雇主是6%嘛吼那其中還有一個也就是2003年的這個勞退自體率我們統計了你有新的政策你就要去看他的結果那這個統計出來是2003年那個勞退自體的部分是14%\n\n15\n00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:40,776\n那顯示還有大概740萬勞工裡頭有600萬那麼86%他希望扣我自己啦我不要自體那到底為什麼呢因為自體就是尊重他個人的意願當然啊那他不願意提可能是說他表示你的政策人就是怕你會倒啊所以人家不要自體啊對不對每一次都告訴我們絕對不會倒然後一段時間又告訴我們有可能會倒自體不會倒啦\n\n16\n00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:54,802\n當然啊!當然啊!那可是人家不要自體啊!對啊!個人帳戶不會倒啊!但是為什麼你的執行率是如此?本期要跟你討論的是說當你提出一個政策之後那為什麼你的執行率不高?\n\n17\n00:06:12,705 --> 00:06:24,569\n你聽我說具體不高有的是勞工他自己可以去投資應用他可以到自由金融市場去投資應用也有人因為他的經濟負擔他認為他沒有辦法有餘裕再去製體\n\n18\n00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:42,199\n也就是有這樣的疑慮那你各種的政策出來你要再去看他的結果他的結果如果不是你的KPI指數指標出來的時候那你們可以再去這樣調整對不對這個才是你要做的事情嘛當然啊\n\n19\n00:06:48,403 --> 00:07:02,347\n我會努力來讓字體會這個等於說鼓勵勞工徒續你要去努力嘛而不是原因當然人家不信任你人家當然不要啊有我原因啦我會介紹給你聽啦但是KPI要提高我會再拍片啦要努力齁好那你把你的方案你可能提高的\n\n20\n00:07:10,370 --> 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