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00:03:06,180\n當然要在這邊跟這個委員報告就是說台灣不是一個大型的國家那我們必須要施力要施的巧那事實上我們有在這邊注意也注意到說除了這個低軌中軌高軌的通訊以外月球跟火星的探測也是未來一個重要的地方我們也會來跟民主友好的國家一起來協力合作謝謝\n\n9\n00:03:07,260 --> 00:03:28,126\n另一部分本市長請教因為去年蔡總統10月有表示說我們國家太空科技的發展的長程計畫剛剛也有委員詢問要再加碼至少400億我想他是要投入低軌的通訊衛星的研製規劃\n\n10\n00:03:29,887 --> 00:03:36,231\n以及國家發射場跟人才的培育這幾大項根據產經新聞的報導台灣今年有望開始進入低軌的衛星通訊時代來補足傳統4G、5G沒有辦法完全覆蓋台灣導致部分地區收訊不良的問題\n\n11\n00:03:53,202 --> 00:04:15,484\n我們要期待未來全台通訊都可以含無死角的目標那就覆蓋全台的這個低軌衛星通訊的研製跟投放不曉得目前的規劃到哪裡是不是就正如產業界所預估的我們已經要進入這個低軌衛星通訊時代\n\n12\n00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:41,990\n兩方面短期來講當然我們的衛星網還不會那麼快但是短期我們會跟國際的大廠包括OneWeb或者是歐洲的一些廠商美國STARLINK我們也沒有放棄事實上目前只有STARLINK跟OneWeb比較成熟這個短期我們持續跟他們接觸合作\n\n13\n00:04:43,311 --> 00:05:11,956\n包括亞馬遜的開培我們也不排除合作在技術上的合作那longterm來講的確台灣因為是一個海島必須要有自己的一個衛星網路那這個太空中心有在研議佈局當中好那至於國家發射廠的部分那當然我們不好意思我剛剛那個400億要包括火箭的研發對對對所以我現在都要跟你說火箭\n\n14\n00:05:13,617 --> 00:05:37,459\n因為我們現在當然就是說我們有這個屏東旭海的這個科研火箭發射場這是用在短期的科研對嘛那永久性的國家級的這個火箭發射場目前長子的評估如何除了台東的那個南田以外還有沒有其他的進展\n\n15\n00:05:38,823 --> 00:06:02,048\n現在我們進到說我們要把那個未來的發射廠因為事實上要用的話可能好幾十年的時間不能亂選而且未來的擴充性也要大所以它基本的地理物理還有一些這個環境的影響它的一些審查的要件我們剛好在2月也把它審過了現在會持續來\n\n16\n00:06:03,288 --> 00:06:03,868\n委員會主任委員會主任委員會\n\n17\n00:06:28,755 --> 00:06:34,346\n加上這個蔡總統加碼這個研發的經費所以我們目前的規劃是如何這個大學端\n\n18\n00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:57,528\n大學端的這個太空相關科系的設置我們有四個相關的太空相關的系所就設立了那學生都是爆滿那另外我們太空中心也有一些太空相關的培育的一些訓練營包括給產業都有\n\n19\n00:07:03,012 --> 00:07:17,079\n大學端有四所太空系統工程研究所,去年幾乎全部滿招,甚至有些學校備一都進不去。另外一個是比較偏太空中心就是比較在培養太空科技人才,我們辦了很多這種訓練的課程。\n\n20\n00:07:23,202 --> 00:07:34,273\n另外一個是經濟部的他們其實有很多在比較產創這些方面的訓練相當多的人才好那如果4個都報滿有沒有考慮再多增加\n\n21\n00:07:35,782 --> 00:07:42,305\n接下來想要跟您討論的就是如何健全我國資安防護的體制因為這個禮拜一我們為了討論各界關注的衛星資訊安全議題美台衛星安全國際研討會有在台灣舉辦\n\n22\n00:07:58,993 --> 00:08:20,267\n這場研討會代表著衛星通訊資安的重要性不過也不只衛星的通訊資安我國政府的各部會的整體的資安防護在台灣不分公家民間的部門越來越常受到網路攻擊的狀況之下我們要更有系統的布局\n\n23\n00:08:21,687 --> 00:08:47,693\n當然舉例來說像鴻海那個旗下那個半導體大廠那個金鼎就1月遭到駭客入侵那這一起事件的重要性當然就影響了這個台灣半導體產業這個穩定性那國科會下面有個資安科技研究中心那我想這個是負責布局中上游的這個資安學術的科學中心\n\n24\n00:08:48,553 --> 00:08:49,214\n﹚林宜瑾\n\n25\n00:09:11,094 --> 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term來講的確台灣因為是一個海島必須要有自己的一個衛星網路那這個太空中心有在研議佈局當中好那至於國家發射廠的部分那當然我們不好意思我剛剛那個400億要包括火箭的研發對對對所以我現在都要跟你說火箭\n313617\t337459\t因為我們現在當然就是說我們有這個屏東旭海的這個科研火箭發射場這是用在短期的科研對嘛那永久性的國家級的這個火箭發射場目前長子的評估如何除了台東的那個南田以外還有沒有其他的進展\n338823\t362048\t現在我們進到說我們要把那個未來的發射廠因為事實上要用的話可能好幾十年的時間不能亂選而且未來的擴充性也要大所以它基本的地理物理還有一些這個環境的影響它的一些審查的要件我們剛好在2月也把它審過了現在會持續來\n363288\t363868\t委員會主任委員會主任委員會\n388755\t394346\t加上這個蔡總統加碼這個研發的經費所以我們目前的規劃是如何這個大學端\n397830\t417528\t大學端的這個太空相關科系的設置我們有四個相關的太空相關的系所就設立了那學生都是爆滿那另外我們太空中心也有一些太空相關的培育的一些訓練營包括給產業都有\n423012\t437079\t大學端有四所太空系統工程研究所,去年幾乎全部滿招,甚至有些學校備一都進不去。另外一個是比較偏太空中心就是比較在培養太空科技人才,我們辦了很多這種訓練的課程。\n443202\t454273\t另外一個是經濟部的他們其實有很多在比較產創這些方面的訓練相當多的人才好那如果4個都報滿有沒有考慮再多增加\n455782\t462305\t接下來想要跟您討論的就是如何健全我國資安防護的體制因為這個禮拜一我們為了討論各界關注的衛星資訊安全議題美台衛星安全國際研討會有在台灣舉辦\n478993\t500267\t這場研討會代表著衛星通訊資安的重要性不過也不只衛星的通訊資安我國政府的各部會的整體的資安防護在台灣不分公家民間的部門越來越常受到網路攻擊的狀況之下我們要更有系統的布局\n501687\t527693\t當然舉例來說像鴻海那個旗下那個半導體大廠那個金鼎就1月遭到駭客入侵那這一起事件的重要性當然就影響了這個台灣半導體產業這個穩定性那國科會下面有個資安科技研究中心那我想這個是負責布局中上游的這個資安學術的科學中心\n528553\t529214\t﹚林宜瑾\n551094\t571770\t經過我們初步的詢問我們現在國科會2023年培育高階資安技術研發人才有341位那我想請教是說這些專業人才投入了哪些單位來協助我們的資安科技那我們有沒有想要把這些培育出的人才都留在國內\n575239\t596651\t我們會盡力因為這個資安人才最近世界各國都在搶包括台灣國內也在搶政府都是搶不贏外面的公司但是的確是未來需要更多的資安相關的人才我們TACC就是在因為雖然TACC是我們一個\n597671\t598591\t我們也在努力當中。\n622001\t638019\t最後要強調資安及國安公部門的資訊安全需要不分行政立法共同來加強資安防護的落實就如同國防要自主所以資訊安全的防護也要\n639060\t665109\t國造就是自主我們就要自主來健全自己的體質那所以期待這個資安科技這個研究中心我們可以有更專業更完整的這個佈局那我想這個我們都要來努力那我想剛剛提到的不管是資安不管是這個我們火箭這個發射場不管是人才的培育這些都還要繼續來加油好不好\n666209\t666673\t謝謝國科繼續努力謝謝主委\n","txt":"林教委,早\n從台灣第一枚的這個自製氣象衛星這個裂縫者升空開始翻開了台灣太空發展的新篇章那同時呢也持續提供遙測跟氣象的資料那貢獻給國際社會讓台灣這個在太空科技發展這條路上跟國際接軌那不落人後我想在這裡要藉這個機會\n先肯定國科會有關於太空自主關鍵技術發展的努力不過太空科技的發展其實是一場很艱困的挑戰會隨著國際情勢的演變我們也需要相應的迅速來應對\n近期媒體有報載像俄國傳出正在研發這個太空核電站的消息那中國的太空發展更是急起直追他這個2022年底他的天宮太空站已經全面建成那也更陸續進行了月球跟火星的探測計畫那至於印度的太空科研也積極發展登月計畫那以及國造這個載人的這個航天計畫\n由此可見世界各國大家都很加強火力在發展這個太空科技那請問主委目前就我們台灣的最新的這個太空計畫裡頭是不是像我所剛所說就是說太空科研需要因應這個國際情勢的演變以及配合國家的安全會有不同的規劃那同時也要做修正跟研議所以我們要如何面對這樣變化中的這個國際情勢對於我們的太空科技發展\n委員講的完全正確而且是必須要走的方向事實上從2019 Elon Musk Starlink出來以後我們也馬上跟上當然台灣跟中國跟美國不太一樣因為國家的size不太一樣\n我們是要找對時間點切進去那事實上台灣應該也有掌握到這個機會就這個通訊衛星他未來會帶來很多新的產業的機會我們也有步了那另外這個火箭之前沒有但是未來現在我們也啟動台灣的火箭的一些研發跟研製也在順利在進行當中\n當然要在這邊跟這個委員報告就是說台灣不是一個大型的國家那我們必須要施力要施的巧那事實上我們有在這邊注意也注意到說除了這個低軌中軌高軌的通訊以外月球跟火星的探測也是未來一個重要的地方我們也會來跟民主友好的國家一起來協力合作謝謝\n另一部分本市長請教因為去年蔡總統10月有表示說我們國家太空科技的發展的長程計畫剛剛也有委員詢問要再加碼至少400億我想他是要投入低軌的通訊衛星的研製規劃\n以及國家發射場跟人才的培育這幾大項根據產經新聞的報導台灣今年有望開始進入低軌的衛星通訊時代來補足傳統4G、5G沒有辦法完全覆蓋台灣導致部分地區收訊不良的問題\n我們要期待未來全台通訊都可以含無死角的目標那就覆蓋全台的這個低軌衛星通訊的研製跟投放不曉得目前的規劃到哪裡是不是就正如產業界所預估的我們已經要進入這個低軌衛星通訊時代\n兩方面短期來講當然我們的衛星網還不會那麼快但是短期我們會跟國際的大廠包括OneWeb或者是歐洲的一些廠商美國STARLINK我們也沒有放棄事實上目前只有STARLINK跟OneWeb比較成熟這個短期我們持續跟他們接觸合作\n包括亞馬遜的開培我們也不排除合作在技術上的合作那long term來講的確台灣因為是一個海島必須要有自己的一個衛星網路那這個太空中心有在研議佈局當中好那至於國家發射廠的部分那當然我們不好意思我剛剛那個400億要包括火箭的研發對對對所以我現在都要跟你說火箭\n因為我們現在當然就是說我們有這個屏東旭海的這個科研火箭發射場這是用在短期的科研對嘛那永久性的國家級的這個火箭發射場目前長子的評估如何除了台東的那個南田以外還有沒有其他的進展\n現在我們進到說我們要把那個未來的發射廠因為事實上要用的話可能好幾十年的時間不能亂選而且未來的擴充性也要大所以它基本的地理物理還有一些這個環境的影響它的一些審查的要件我們剛好在2月也把它審過了現在會持續來\n委員會主任委員會主任委員會\n加上這個蔡總統加碼這個研發的經費所以我們目前的規劃是如何這個大學端\n大學端的這個太空相關科系的設置我們有四個相關的太空相關的系所就設立了那學生都是爆滿那另外我們太空中心也有一些太空相關的培育的一些訓練營包括給產業都有\n大學端有四所太空系統工程研究所,去年幾乎全部滿招,甚至有些學校備一都進不去。另外一個是比較偏太空中心就是比較在培養太空科技人才,我們辦了很多這種訓練的課程。\n另外一個是經濟部的他們其實有很多在比較產創這些方面的訓練相當多的人才好那如果4個都報滿有沒有考慮再多增加\n接下來想要跟您討論的就是如何健全我國資安防護的體制因為這個禮拜一我們為了討論各界關注的衛星資訊安全議題美台衛星安全國際研討會有在台灣舉辦\n這場研討會代表著衛星通訊資安的重要性不過也不只衛星的通訊資安我國政府的各部會的整體的資安防護在台灣不分公家民間的部門越來越常受到網路攻擊的狀況之下我們要更有系統的布局\n當然舉例來說像鴻海那個旗下那個半導體大廠那個金鼎就1月遭到駭客入侵那這一起事件的重要性當然就影響了這個台灣半導體產業這個穩定性那國科會下面有個資安科技研究中心那我想這個是負責布局中上游的這個資安學術的科學中心\n﹚林宜瑾\n經過我們初步的詢問我們現在國科會2023年培育高階資安技術研發人才有341位那我想請教是說這些專業人才投入了哪些單位來協助我們的資安科技那我們有沒有想要把這些培育出的人才都留在國內\n我們會盡力因為這個資安人才最近世界各國都在搶包括台灣國內也在搶政府都是搶不贏外面的公司但是的確是未來需要更多的資安相關的人才我們TACC就是在因為雖然TACC是我們一個\n我們也在努力當中。\n最後要強調資安及國安公部門的資訊安全需要不分行政立法共同來加強資安防護的落實就如同國防要自主所以資訊安全的防護也要\n國造就是自主我們就要自主來健全自己的體質那所以期待這個資安科技這個研究中心我們可以有更專業更完整的這個佈局那我想這個我們都要來努力那我想剛剛提到的不管是資安不管是這個我們火箭這個發射場不管是人才的培育這些都還要繼續來加油好不好\n謝謝國科繼續努力謝謝主委\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.489 --> 00:00.810\n林教委,早\n\n00:08.814 --> 00:12.595\n從台灣第一枚的這個自製氣象衛星這個裂縫者升空開始翻開了台灣太空發展的新篇章那同時呢也持續提供遙測跟氣象的資料那貢獻給國際社會讓台灣這個在太空科技發展這條路上跟國際接軌那不落人後我想在這裡要藉這個機會\n\n00:35.842 --> 00:52.002\n先肯定國科會有關於太空自主關鍵技術發展的努力不過太空科技的發展其實是一場很艱困的挑戰會隨著國際情勢的演變我們也需要相應的迅速來應對\n\n00:53.703 --> 01:17.078\n近期媒體有報載像俄國傳出正在研發這個太空核電站的消息那中國的太空發展更是急起直追他這個2022年底他的天宮太空站已經全面建成那也更陸續進行了月球跟火星的探測計畫那至於印度的太空科研也積極發展登月計畫那以及國造這個載人的這個航天計畫\n\n01:22.481 --> 01:51.821\n由此可見世界各國大家都很加強火力在發展這個太空科技那請問主委目前就我們台灣的最新的這個太空計畫裡頭是不是像我所剛所說就是說太空科研需要因應這個國際情勢的演變以及配合國家的安全會有不同的規劃那同時也要做修正跟研議所以我們要如何面對這樣變化中的這個國際情勢對於我們的太空科技發展\n\n01:53.982 --> 02:11.758\n委員講的完全正確而且是必須要走的方向事實上從2019ElonMuskStarlink出來以後我們也馬上跟上當然台灣跟中國跟美國不太一樣因為國家的size不太一樣\n\n02:12.839 --> 02:36.239\n我們是要找對時間點切進去那事實上台灣應該也有掌握到這個機會就這個通訊衛星他未來會帶來很多新的產業的機會我們也有步了那另外這個火箭之前沒有但是未來現在我們也啟動台灣的火箭的一些研發跟研製也在順利在進行當中\n\n02:37.440 --> 03:06.180\n當然要在這邊跟這個委員報告就是說台灣不是一個大型的國家那我們必須要施力要施的巧那事實上我們有在這邊注意也注意到說除了這個低軌中軌高軌的通訊以外月球跟火星的探測也是未來一個重要的地方我們也會來跟民主友好的國家一起來協力合作謝謝\n\n03:07.260 --> 03:28.126\n另一部分本市長請教因為去年蔡總統10月有表示說我們國家太空科技的發展的長程計畫剛剛也有委員詢問要再加碼至少400億我想他是要投入低軌的通訊衛星的研製規劃\n\n03:29.887 --> 03:36.231\n以及國家發射場跟人才的培育這幾大項根據產經新聞的報導台灣今年有望開始進入低軌的衛星通訊時代來補足傳統4G、5G沒有辦法完全覆蓋台灣導致部分地區收訊不良的問題\n\n03:53.202 --> 04:15.484\n我們要期待未來全台通訊都可以含無死角的目標那就覆蓋全台的這個低軌衛星通訊的研製跟投放不曉得目前的規劃到哪裡是不是就正如產業界所預估的我們已經要進入這個低軌衛星通訊時代\n\n04:18.360 --> 04:41.990\n兩方面短期來講當然我們的衛星網還不會那麼快但是短期我們會跟國際的大廠包括OneWeb或者是歐洲的一些廠商美國STARLINK我們也沒有放棄事實上目前只有STARLINK跟OneWeb比較成熟這個短期我們持續跟他們接觸合作\n\n04:43.311 --> 05:11.956\n包括亞馬遜的開培我們也不排除合作在技術上的合作那longterm來講的確台灣因為是一個海島必須要有自己的一個衛星網路那這個太空中心有在研議佈局當中好那至於國家發射廠的部分那當然我們不好意思我剛剛那個400億要包括火箭的研發對對對所以我現在都要跟你說火箭\n\n05:13.617 --> 05:37.459\n因為我們現在當然就是說我們有這個屏東旭海的這個科研火箭發射場這是用在短期的科研對嘛那永久性的國家級的這個火箭發射場目前長子的評估如何除了台東的那個南田以外還有沒有其他的進展\n\n05:38.823 --> 06:02.048\n現在我們進到說我們要把那個未來的發射廠因為事實上要用的話可能好幾十年的時間不能亂選而且未來的擴充性也要大所以它基本的地理物理還有一些這個環境的影響它的一些審查的要件我們剛好在2月也把它審過了現在會持續來\n\n06:03.288 --> 06:03.868\n委員會主任委員會主任委員會\n\n06:28.755 --> 06:34.346\n加上這個蔡總統加碼這個研發的經費所以我們目前的規劃是如何這個大學端\n\n06:37.830 --> 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