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00:01:59,083\n已經做一個客觀的規範有些地方制定了光害防治的自治條例但缺乏了全面性的一個具體能夠去把他們做一個法則我覺得這樣子的一個缺乏相應的法則使得光害防治在地方上有存在一定的混亂跟不完善我想請問一下部長環境部能不能盤點這些光源的類型並針對各個類型的光源所造成的光汙染\n\n7\n00:02:00,003 --> 00:02:20,849\n制定管理規範及解決方案跟羅文報告我覺得這一塊可以來做因為的確現在民眾反映有關關害事實上是蠻多的本席在自己的選區也遇到很多這樣子的一個問題那最近不管是青梅成品相關的一個問題還有很多霓虹燈\n\n8\n00:02:21,869 --> 00:02:40,398\n他你有看過那種檳榔攤它的霓虹燈晚上是非常非常的亮眼造成住戶這樣子無法去睡眠啊我覺得這些問題已經形成了很多的一個陳情案件我想部長跟您請問一下有可能法治化嗎如果可以的話可不可以給本席一個具體的時間表\n\n9\n00:02:43,806 --> 00:03:02,228\n光害就如同之前我們在推動噪音管制一樣不同階段那只要民眾反映他覺得充斥在我們的生活環境當中已經造成包括對身體跟個人的生活各方面的部長我具體問你就520前您可以送出一個草案嗎\n\n10\n00:03:03,503 --> 00:03:15,301\n520前我想大概時間上沒有辦法因為他涵蓋面好那我先不探討到底520之後您會不會在我希望繼續存在您會擔部長但520如果今年度還在的話您可以在今年度提出一個版本嗎\n\n11\n00:03:17,202 --> 00:03:37,014\n謝謝羅廷瑋不過這個假設性的問題我們就不要在這邊談不管我們在這個位置我想我們的同仁都會繼續請你督促同仁在今年度務必能夠繳出這一個版本出來讓我們的所有全民全國國體國人都很希望有這樣子的一個關愛污染防治法這部分可以嗎\n\n12\n00:03:37,894 --> 00:03:58,602\n跟委員報告我想這樣我們在今年年初的1月4號發布一個光汙染管理指引的第二版本那我想這個讓我們實施了一段時間然後再回頭檢討這個同時呢我們在做這個光汙染的那個檢測因為那個每個檢測的方式沒關係我們會再討論啦但是你的報告自己就有講每年澄清案件700多件\n\n13\n00:04:00,524 --> 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