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00:02:54,795\n跟委員報告事實上我們目前預算書是抓80.5塊預算書113年預算書那事實上我們目前那你會賠多優越來講的話大概是80.6其實很接近那整個我們也在掌握整個國際大公司對下半年油價的一個走勢\n\n9\n00:02:55,535 --> 00:02:56,796\n那下半年有價嗎?\n\n10\n00:02:56,796 --> 00:03:24,255\n對,那我們其實認為他第一大概也有支撐就是去年得到70出頭這裡那高大概也不會高到95就是會在這個區間去做盤整你說70對,就過去大概70到95之間因為他的波動其實要看很多因素那機率大,往上的機率大還是往下的機率大?我們看起來應該是食品在這個地方八十幾塊的可能性比較大\n\n11\n00:03:24,855 --> 00:03:39,934\n所以不會影響到經濟成長?如果是八十幾塊就不會影響到經濟成長那對於電力的需求那就相對的大了是不是那如果\n\n12\n00:03:42,921 --> 00:04:05,555\n我們中油你如果預估的油價是往高的時候那對於中油的虧損你預計是多少?你們有雙環產的那個政策嗎?那對於如果油價區間在八十或者是九十八十的時候你預估你們的虧損是多少九十的時候你們預估虧損是多少?\n\n13\n00:04:06,135 --> 00:04:07,697\n對,可是今年最大的不確定因素的確是在石油,是不是?\n\n14\n00:04:28,599 --> 00:04:30,883\n還是油氣因為氣會跟著油來變動因為國企的天然氣價格JKM我只有4分鐘你回歸到主題你應該有試算過嘛就講吧\n\n15\n00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:42,496\n中油公司吸收的政策人物會更多?\n\n16\n00:04:42,496 --> 00:04:42,816\n多少啊?\n\n17\n00:05:11,015 --> 00:05:19,238\n你都沒有講,你都已經有抓出區間了,你就應該試算了嘛,是不是不願意講?\n\n18\n00:05:19,238 --> 00:05:24,440\n不是不是,因為我們各種情境要必須要有一些假設前提啦,就是說我的\n\n19\n00:05:25,200 --> 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那90塊呢\n347048\t348871\t90塊鐵定會虧損的虧損多少他不講虧損多少就會跟油價跟氣價的相關的情形有一些變有一些互相變動的問題\n361602\t388183\t對我的整個成本會增加大概4億多啦如果這樣子的話上漲到90塊大概會增加40幾億的成本那如果這些成本沒辦法在73億的這個售價來做反應的話那這部分就是我要我看你好像都沒有算下次要來報告之前你應該要算好喔是是不然不問你就問部長\n389070\t393422\t謝謝謝謝謝謝\n","txt":"王部長,我今天也是沒有辦法準時來報導就是因為那個經鼎的案子那你是不是說明一下就是到底是因為林佳龍秘書長的承諾還是今天如果在地的民眾表達不同意的意見那的確有可能經鼎公司就沒有辦法如實的拿到整個許可,是不是?\n對經濟部來講因為我們跟金鼎有相關的合約那合約有期程那非常重要是我們確實在合約裡面有要求金鼎一定要拿到地方政府的執照那當然地方的溝通一定要做因為這是環評應該走的程序那所以這一些的前提如果都沒有辦法這個完成的話那會影響這個合約的部分那所以這個合約的期限是不是在3月底\n我們的合約的期限沒有你來說明啦你不要跟委員報告今天在經典公司他所辦理的相關的說明會是來自於依照環評法的規定那他必須要去做的一個作業程序以上\n那所以合約期限呢?我在講合約期限相關的期程如果沒有辦法順利等等的那因為我們這個相關的合約我們會看他有沒有履行合約的這些必要的條件等等的那後續我們再來處理所以今天\n在場的民眾已經表達了抗議以及不支持的情況所以如果沒有在場民眾其實林佳榮秘書長當初的承諾也沒有辦法解套啊是不是我想這個相關的當地的居民的這個意見是重要的啦那當然更重要是他有沒有辦法拿到縣政府的相關執照這個都是相關合約能不能往下走的前提好\n我再問一下因為昨天我在問主計長朱哲銘的時候他提到了今年的經濟成長如果是3.4%他們預估的他們預估的指裡面中油的油價\n就是不是中油油價就是國際原油價格是82塊左右那我想請問中油對於今年油價評估今年油價的確是市場上面非常不確定的因素你對油價評估是如何的\n跟委員報告事實上我們目前預算書是抓80.5塊預算書113年預算書那事實上我們目前那你會賠多優越來講的話大概是80.6其實很接近那整個我們也在掌握整個國際大公司對下半年油價的一個走勢\n那下半年有價嗎?\n對,那我們其實認為他第一大概也有支撐就是去年得到70出頭這裡那高大概也不會高到95就是會在這個區間去做盤整你說70對,就過去大概70到95之間因為他的波動其實要看很多因素那機率大,往上的機率大還是往下的機率大?我們看起來應該是食品在這個地方八十幾塊的可能性比較大\n所以不會影響到經濟成長?如果是八十幾塊就不會影響到經濟成長那對於電力的需求那就相對的大了是不是那如果\n我們中油你如果預估的油價是往高的時候那對於中油的虧損你預計是多少?你們有雙環產的那個政策嗎?那對於如果油價區間在八十或者是九十八十的時候你預估你們的虧損是多少九十的時候你們預估虧損是多少?\n對,可是今年最大的不確定因素的確是在石油,是不是?\n還是油氣因為氣會跟著油來變動因為國企的天然氣價格JKM我只有4分鐘你回歸到主題你應該有試算過嘛就講吧\n中油公司吸收的政策人物會更多?\n多少啊?\n你都沒有講,你都已經有抓出區間了,你就應該試算了嘛,是不是不願意講?\n不是不是,因為我們各種情境要必須要有一些假設前提啦,就是說我的\n這裡頭除了油價﹖不然FoB還要再看﹖JKM他的現貨價格﹖黃部長他不講就你講喔﹖會不會漲﹖因為他的那個浮動所以會影響他們怎麼試算那他們的預算是以說如果油價是80塊的話大概是今年度希望可以打平這樣的一個情境 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02:36.248\n就是不是中油油價就是國際原油價格是82塊左右那我想請問中油對於今年油價評估今年油價的確是市場上面非常不確定的因素你對油價評估是如何的\n\n02:36.728 --> 02:54.795\n跟委員報告事實上我們目前預算書是抓80.5塊預算書113年預算書那事實上我們目前那你會賠多優越來講的話大概是80.6其實很接近那整個我們也在掌握整個國際大公司對下半年油價的一個走勢\n\n02:55.535 --> 02:56.796\n那下半年有價嗎?\n\n02:56.796 --> 03:24.255\n對,那我們其實認為他第一大概也有支撐就是去年得到70出頭這裡那高大概也不會高到95就是會在這個區間去做盤整你說70對,就過去大概70到95之間因為他的波動其實要看很多因素那機率大,往上的機率大還是往下的機率大?我們看起來應該是食品在這個地方八十幾塊的可能性比較大\n\n03:24.855 --> 03:39.934\n所以不會影響到經濟成長?如果是八十幾塊就不會影響到經濟成長那對於電力的需求那就相對的大了是不是那如果\n\n03:42.921 --> 04:05.555\n我們中油你如果預估的油價是往高的時候那對於中油的虧損你預計是多少?你們有雙環產的那個政策嗎?那對於如果油價區間在八十或者是九十八十的時候你預估你們的虧損是多少九十的時候你們預估虧損是多少?\n\n04:06.135 --> 04:07.697\n對,可是今年最大的不確定因素的確是在石油,是不是?\n\n04:28.599 --> 04:30.883\n還是油氣因為氣會跟著油來變動因為國企的天然氣價格JKM我只有4分鐘你回歸到主題你應該有試算過嘛就講吧\n\n04:41.715 --> 04:42.496\n中油公司吸收的政策人物會更多?\n\n04:42.496 --> 04:42.816\n多少啊?\n\n05:11.015 --> 05:19.238\n你都沒有講,你都已經有抓出區間了,你就應該試算了嘛,是不是不願意講?\n\n05:19.238 --> 05:24.440\n不是不是,因為我們各種情境要必須要有一些假設前提啦,就是說我的\n\n05:25.200 --> 05:28.061\n這裡頭除了油價﹖不然FoB還要再看﹖JKM他的現貨價格﹖黃部長他不講就你講喔﹖會不會漲﹖因為他的那個浮動所以會影響他們怎麼試算那他們的預算是以說如果油價是80塊的話大概是今年度希望可以打平這樣的一個情境那90塊呢\n\n05:47.048 --> 05:48.871\n90塊鐵定會虧損的虧損多少他不講虧損多少就會跟油價跟氣價的相關的情形有一些變有一些互相變動的問題\n\n06:01.602 --> 06:28.183\n對我的整個成本會增加大概4億多啦如果這樣子的話上漲到90塊大概會增加40幾億的成本那如果這些成本沒辦法在73億的這個售價來做反應的話那這部分就是我要我看你好像都沒有算下次要來報告之前你應該要算好喔是是不然不問你就問部長\n\n","segments":[{"start":1.206,"end":27.56,"text":"王部長,我今天也是沒有辦法準時來報導就是因為那個經鼎的案子那你是不是說明一下就是到底是因為林佳龍秘書長的承諾還是今天如果在地的民眾表達不同意的意見那的確有可能經鼎公司就沒有辦法如實的拿到整個許可,是不是?"},{"start":29.26,"end":56.53,"text":"對經濟部來講因為我們跟金鼎有相關的合約那合約有期程那非常重要是我們確實在合約裡面有要求金鼎一定要拿到地方政府的執照那當然地方的溝通一定要做因為這是環評應該走的程序那所以這一些的前提如果都沒有辦法這個完成的話那會影響這個合約的部分那所以這個合約的期限是不是在3月底"},{"start":57.35,"end":75.544,"text":"我們的合約的期限沒有你來說明啦你不要跟委員報告今天在經典公司他所辦理的相關的說明會是來自於依照環評法的規定那他必須要去做的一個作業程序以上"},{"start":76.769,"end":93.953,"text":"那所以合約期限呢?我在講合約期限相關的期程如果沒有辦法順利等等的那因為我們這個相關的合約我們會看他有沒有履行合約的這些必要的條件等等的那後續我們再來處理所以今天"},{"start":97.734,"end":125.392,"text":"在場的民眾已經表達了抗議以及不支持的情況所以如果沒有在場民眾其實林佳榮秘書長當初的承諾也沒有辦法解套啊是不是我想這個相關的當地的居民的這個意見是重要的啦那當然更重要是他有沒有辦法拿到縣政府的相關執照這個都是相關合約能不能往下走的前提好"},{"start":126.312,"end":139.144,"text":"我再問一下因為昨天我在問主計長朱哲銘的時候他提到了今年的經濟成長如果是3.4%他們預估的他們預估的指裡面中油的油價"},{"start":140.342,"end":156.248,"text":"就是不是中油油價就是國際原油價格是82塊左右那我想請問中油對於今年油價評估今年油價的確是市場上面非常不確定的因素你對油價評估是如何的"},{"start":156.728,"end":174.795,"text":"跟委員報告事實上我們目前預算書是抓80.5塊預算書113年預算書那事實上我們目前那你會賠多優越來講的話大概是80.6其實很接近那整個我們也在掌握整個國際大公司對下半年油價的一個走勢"},{"start":175.535,"end":176.796,"text":"那下半年有價嗎?"},{"start":176.796,"end":204.255,"text":"對,那我們其實認為他第一大概也有支撐就是去年得到70出頭這裡那高大概也不會高到95就是會在這個區間去做盤整你說70對,就過去大概70到95之間因為他的波動其實要看很多因素那機率大,往上的機率大還是往下的機率大?我們看起來應該是食品在這個地方八十幾塊的可能性比較大"},{"start":204.855,"end":219.934,"text":"所以不會影響到經濟成長?如果是八十幾塊就不會影響到經濟成長那對於電力的需求那就相對的大了是不是那如果"},{"start":222.921,"end":245.555,"text":"我們中油你如果預估的油價是往高的時候那對於中油的虧損你預計是多少?你們有雙環產的那個政策嗎?那對於如果油價區間在八十或者是九十八十的時候你預估你們的虧損是多少九十的時候你們預估虧損是多少?"},{"start":246.135,"end":247.697,"text":"對,可是今年最大的不確定因素的確是在石油,是不是?"},{"start":268.599,"end":270.883,"text":"還是油氣因為氣會跟著油來變動因為國企的天然氣價格JKM我只有4分鐘你回歸到主題你應該有試算過嘛就講吧"},{"start":281.715,"end":282.496,"text":"中油公司吸收的政策人物會更多?"},{"start":282.496,"end":282.816,"text":"多少啊?"},{"start":311.015,"end":319.238,"text":"你都沒有講,你都已經有抓出區間了,你就應該試算了嘛,是不是不願意講?"},{"start":319.238,"end":324.44,"text":"不是不是,因為我們各種情境要必須要有一些假設前提啦,就是說我的"},{"start":325.2,"end":328.061,"text":"這裡頭除了油價﹖不然FoB還要再看﹖JKM他的現貨價格﹖黃部長他不講就你講喔﹖會不會漲﹖因為他的那個浮動所以會影響他們怎麼試算那他們的預算是以說如果油價是80塊的話大概是今年度希望可以打平這樣的一個情境 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